I mained Ottomans in team games. They're so flexible and forgiving with their military schools. You can make enough military to defend or even harass if the enemy is playing passive with just 1-2 military schools + 1 stable. Meanwhile you're booming with trade in the back or going for an all in Feudal push. My late game comp was always pure Jans + Great Bombards. They perfectly synergize with each other. The bombards kill any infantry, siege and keeps; whilst the Jans protect them from any Cavalry push and keep the GBs alive against springalds because they can repair. I'm glad they finally buffed Otto in 1v1 too.
@@dennisbergkamp1553 absolutely agree, the aoe4 implementation feels like a big step back! IT would be so great to have the aoe3 physics for the great bombard.
Drogo, why do you hate the word "few" or "fewer"? :D I am not native english speaker and our teachers were always very particular about countable and uncountable things.
he didn't even use all 10 or 11 of them. Just 4 were very effective most of the time. GB's shoot way too fast and should be nerfed to shoot maybe twice a day.
I love Drongo but at some poınt this dude talking about kesha and stuff and following idle units, meanwhile myriad trying to siege down the keep on the southeast......
The age 4 landmark greatly benfit military schools and MIA in the lategame. Cuz the production formula is to increase base training time by 4.457. Now ottoman lategame will have ~1.25 times more free units compared to previous patch(+60% speed), which is 5 lancers or 7.5 Jans per minute for free.
the 100% production rate is ..... im my head that should mean instant but that's aoe 3 logic, idk how much actually faster it is. but advanced military school is pretty good now
The 100% rate means it will only take half as much time as production doubles so a 100% increse in production equals to 50% of original train time. Considering a train time of 24 seconds, a 100% bonus to production means it goes to 12 seconds as 24/2=12. But for aoe3 it's directly onto train time so a 100% decrease to train time means instant training, the Russians for one have a 25% card so it goes to 75% of the time taken, a 35% card then goes down to a woping 40% of original train time plus the church tech that makes troops train 25% faster(all europeans have this) to a total of 15% of the train time on most of their infantry (granadiers don't get the buff for 25% from the first one since I believe it is for blockhouse only)
Once they get a bombard mass it seems pretty impossible to handle it…even 12 springalds wouldn’t be enough…you’d have to pair cavalry with it maybe and change up your whole strategy. Even sending 50 knights in there might not be enough if they defend them well
@@onur62dersimos they just have so much health and do so much damage to units and buildings that it’s kind of ridiculous. Take what 6 springald shots to kill just one? And the bombards can just kill the springalds in response
If you could have 10 GBs in a NORMAL game, it was very powerful even BEFORE patch. But GB is still a meme unit AFTER the patch because it didn't address any of the reasons why GB is not battle effective: 1- low HP, 2- VERY low aoe damage less than Mango, 3- short range
Bro 1. They basically have the same hp as clockwork bombard and siege works GB take 7 springald shots to kill. 2. Their aoe dmg dropoff is tight and not as big as mangonels because they one shot all units non siege units except knights and elephants in a small aoe. 3 They outrange normal bombards and unupgraded springalds, they’re only outranged by upgraded springalds and culverins that are supposed to counter them. Despite that they one shot all springalds and one shot unupgraded culverins when they have chemistry. Unless microed actively, a GB will beat two springalds by itself if they don’t try to kite it or if they don’t have roller shutter triggers. Edit: not to even mention that they can be boosted in fire rate by mehter and siegeworks to fire faster than normal bombards.
I was sitting here thinking the same damn thing! EVERY English I play does such an insane aggro in the beginning that these imp buffs would not help me. And his opening was so open to attack. Literally just a TC and his opponent didn't move around the back or anything.
EXACTLY! You literally can't win against a good English player who goes all in with spears and longbows.. you just can't. The longbow range just destroys whatever you have. Only chance is to somehow hold until castle but if the English player has a brain, he'll just start building rams and force a fight out of you in which case you are massively F'd. @@paultrimble21
Bizarre doctored video in 'Fortress' map with passive gameplay waiting for Otto player to amass a ridiculous 10 Great Bombards to try to show that the unit is now "strong"... come on are we that stupid??? One shot does much less / smaller AOE damage than a basic Mangonel !
@@alexaagerger3695 Bro 50% damage from ranged units is too much, and the biggest problem is that they replace hand cannons, which brings a big weakness in the Imp age.
Hi Drongo, Min 10:5-6 you begin saying Mehter as the unit of choice for the ottomans here. Could you please pronounce it right from META to Meh-Ter :p would make it so much more enjoyable because you do other pronunciation of different civs very well. Keep up the good work!
The Australian accent is non-rhotic, meaning they only usually pronounce R sounds when they're prevocalic. If there's an R at the end of the word, an Aussie is probably not going to pronounce it.
Wrong Drongo! Corvinus is an immortal blood line that spearated in to two factions; Vampire and Werewolf. Through the years a hybrid was created. Michael Corvinus, half vampire half werewolf...and he could fuck shit up!
Does not say who won WTF? Just says the game is sealed. No announcement of winner. This is an issue with some of these videos casting replays. Like wtf? It doesn't show who wins. So nobody can know who the winner is. And host don't even say who won or left. And no I will not be getting the expansion. I have not even completed the main game.
Hey Drongo, You should return to ladder, play some games, get rid of that axiety :) I've had a game against You like a year ago, you've tower spammed as chineese and beat my Abbasid, what a bad way to loose xd Such a dirty Drongo!
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As an Ottoman main, I'm very happy with this patch. Thank you Myriad for not surrender so we can see more of those bombards in action.
I agree bro Ottomans was terrible before patch
Are you from turkey bro
I mained Ottomans in team games. They're so flexible and forgiving with their military schools.
You can make enough military to defend or even harass if the enemy is playing passive with just 1-2 military schools + 1 stable. Meanwhile you're booming with trade in the back or going for an all in Feudal push.
My late game comp was always pure Jans + Great Bombards. They perfectly synergize with each other. The bombards kill any infantry, siege and keeps; whilst the Jans protect them from any Cavalry push and keep the GBs alive against springalds because they can repair.
I'm glad they finally buffed Otto in 1v1 too.
@@WAXGAMEPLAY I'm from Iran, but I love Turkey! :D
@@RobotBoyParza what iş your nickname in game bro
I love how Drongo gets overly excited about mango and bombard shots :D Great content man!
AOE3 had the bombard send units flying, was very cool!
Yeah that’s all that’s missing here. Need the AOE3 effect when artillery hit units and then it’s *chefs kiss*
@@dennisbergkamp1553 absolutely agree, the aoe4 implementation feels like a big step back! IT would be so great to have the aoe3 physics for the great bombard.
the old RTS game "Cossacks" had the cannon ball go through the army like you're talking about at 21:00.. and that games 20 years old lol
Lmao 8 great bombards at the end
I'm a simple player. I see Great Bombards sniping springalds, I realize ... Oh, that's how I should use them.
Drogo, why do you hate the word "few" or "fewer"? :D I am not native english speaker and our teachers were always very particular about countable and uncountable things.
"How often do you hear Ke$ha references" Weirdly often? Actually? lol
Oh okay Great Bombard is "effective" if you have 10 of them.. Same shyt as befoer. Still kills only 1 archer at each (very slow) shot
he didn't even use all 10 or 11 of them. Just 4 were very effective most of the time. GB's shoot way too fast and should be nerfed to shoot maybe twice a day.
@@fredosinsemilla3896 6 hour reload time for historical accuracy :D
It's annoying that aoe4 and aussie had troll comments like this. At this point, we shouldn't feed the troll.
I love Drongo but at some poınt this dude talking about kesha and stuff and following idle units, meanwhile myriad trying to siege down the keep on the southeast......
The age 4 landmark greatly benfit military schools and MIA in the lategame. Cuz the production formula is to increase base training time by 4.457. Now ottoman lategame will have ~1.25 times more free units compared to previous patch(+60% speed), which is 5 lancers or 7.5 Jans per minute for free.
Mass free Jan + free Great bombard army will take over the late game
So you just need to build ten Great Bombards in a normal, open 1v1 game to make it minimal effective.. Yea yea okay, I see it's really "fixed" (not)
29:50 LMAO That Line so HIT me.
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Szalámi is hungarian, szalámi means salami in hungarian language. And Corvinus comes from a famous hungarian king's name, Matthias Corvinus.
salami is a type of sausage in pretty much any language
Can you make Fast Imperial for Ottoman?
great cast!
baby it's a double!
What's the point of a very costly, very slow-shooting so-called (fake) "AOE" Bombard that only kills ONE SINGLE MaA per shot??
Come on man, your malding is feeling really forced recently, it is not quite as good as before. You can do better, step up your game
Swath of land
the 100% production rate is ..... im my head that should mean instant but that's aoe 3 logic, idk how much actually faster it is. but advanced military school is pretty good now
Think of it this way you're 100% yourself so an extra 100% makes you double sitting at 200% 2X
The 100% rate means it will only take half as much time as production doubles so a 100% increse in production equals to 50% of original train time. Considering a train time of 24 seconds, a 100% bonus to production means it goes to 12 seconds as 24/2=12. But for aoe3 it's directly onto train time so a 100% decrease to train time means instant training, the Russians for one have a 25% card so it goes to 75% of the time taken, a 35% card then goes down to a woping 40% of original train time plus the church tech that makes troops train 25% faster(all europeans have this) to a total of 15% of the train time on most of their infantry (granadiers don't get the buff for 25% from the first one since I believe it is for blockhouse only)
not sure if it's understandable what I said but to resume it, aoe 2 and 4 have a diferent aproach to production X train time compared to aoe 3
It's 25% faster compared to pre-buff.
100% production rate =/= 100% production time reduction. Rate = speed, not time.
I wonder if the siege crews vizier point will be worth it now that the attack speed of great bombards has been increased to 7.0
Once they get a bombard mass it seems pretty impossible to handle it…even 12 springalds wouldn’t be enough…you’d have to pair cavalry with it maybe and change up your whole strategy. Even sending 50 knights in there might not be enough if they defend them well
Imagine mixing the great bombards with jans.
@@onur62dersimos they just have so much health and do so much damage to units and buildings that it’s kind of ridiculous. Take what 6 springald shots to kill just one? And the bombards can just kill the springalds in response
This pronouncing of you xD it´s called berkshire not barkshire^^
Was nuts for Myriad to try and fight the Otto army head on. He needed a cav switch of elite horsemen to flank and take out all those bombards.
Me doing laundry, hearing about kesha instead of those great bombards
Fellow miss Rachel appreciator
nice video, i really enjoyed it
The English should get some gold every time they harvest a full sheep. Wool trade was a big thing financed a lot of the wars
They not the rus
@kalebbobby34 maxed out observation
They are already strong enough bro, they don't need buffs.
I don't think English need yet another turtle strat. They already have better food and gold right under their tc
@lewisbright8056 yeh it's not needed, it would just make sense historically.
Not checking that fight at the south keep/sacred sight has me buggin. Now I gotta go find the replay of this match.
Ottomans are getting MASSACRED in Call to Arms post-patch, Great Bombard and Janissary still 100% a TOTAL JOKE
My man
who?
turkbot detected
Ottoman fast imp? Is this Aoe2?
slow gameplay
Those are landmarks killers. So satisfying to watch.
Can only one-shot a single unit. Still useless as always
4 great bombards can disappear a Berkshire palace just like that!? isn't that way too strong?
definitely thats to strong
Thats their whole point
If you could have 10 GBs in a NORMAL game, it was very powerful even BEFORE patch. But GB is still a meme unit AFTER the patch because it didn't address any of the reasons why GB is not battle effective: 1- low HP, 2- VERY low aoe damage less than Mango, 3- short range
u trolling right ?
You are trolling.... We just witnessed the live testing of new GBs... They are fuc*** awesome.
Bro 1. They basically have the same hp as clockwork bombard and siege works GB take 7 springald shots to kill. 2. Their aoe dmg dropoff is tight and not as big as mangonels because they one shot all units non siege units except knights and elephants in a small aoe. 3 They outrange normal bombards and unupgraded springalds, they’re only outranged by upgraded springalds and culverins that are supposed to counter them. Despite that they one shot all springalds and one shot unupgraded culverins when they have chemistry. Unless microed actively, a GB will beat two springalds by itself if they don’t try to kite it or if they don’t have roller shutter triggers.
Edit: not to even mention that they can be boosted in fire rate by mehter and siegeworks to fire faster than normal bombards.
@@davaa31siege works dose not increase its health just its set up time and fire rate. But yeah they have heaps of health
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i hope so. Dont like this feudal thing. Edit: I felt in love with this great toy :) Not my best civ, but so much fun.
We need more videos🎊🎉
I want a REAL HRE Landsknecht Buff
That's toxic that they nerfed my French keeps and TCs arbalest to 9.5 tiles yet the great bombard emplacement is still 10 tiles.
I love Szalami and his creative otto builds.. I really do! But going fast imp against English is suicide
I was sitting here thinking the same damn thing! EVERY English I play does such an insane aggro in the beginning that these imp buffs would not help me. And his opening was so open to attack. Literally just a TC and his opponent didn't move around the back or anything.
EXACTLY! You literally can't win against a good English player who goes all in with spears and longbows.. you just can't. The longbow range just destroys whatever you have. Only chance is to somehow hold until castle but if the English player has a brain, he'll just start building rams and force a fight out of you in which case you are massively F'd. @@paultrimble21
Bizarre doctored video in 'Fortress' map with passive gameplay waiting for Otto player to amass a ridiculous 10 Great Bombards to try to show that the unit is now "strong"... come on are we that stupid??? One shot does much less / smaller AOE damage than a basic Mangonel !
We made it ottoman boys… ottomans age 4 are totally balanced now.
LOL of course not
Jans iş terrible
@@Abdurrahmanalireis jans are good. why do you think they got no balance changes?
@@alexaagerger3695Devs are terrible. That’s why
@@alexaagerger3695 Bro 50% damage from ranged units is too much, and the biggest problem is that they replace hand cannons, which brings a big weakness in the Imp age.
In the silver/gold/platinum Ottomans were already too strong, will not be better now I´m afraid.
MGBGA!
WOW what a master
Hi Drongo, Min 10:5-6 you begin saying Mehter as the unit of choice for the ottomans here. Could you please pronounce it right from META to Meh-Ter :p would make it so much more enjoyable because you do other pronunciation of different civs very well. Keep up the good work!
The Australian accent is non-rhotic, meaning they only usually pronounce R sounds when they're prevocalic. If there's an R at the end of the word, an Aussie is probably not going to pronounce it.
what a game
I'm a simple man - I see drongo notification I click like mad
read up on kesha! some messed up stuff happened with her and her manager i think. Im not coming at you at all i love the videos!
Wrong Drongo! Corvinus is an immortal blood line that spearated in to two factions; Vampire and Werewolf. Through the years a hybrid was created. Michael Corvinus, half vampire half werewolf...and he could fuck shit up!
Good game!
The bombards just ate that castle like it was a cheeseberkshire.
i lost track how many times fast imperial meta had began for Drongo :p
one day he'll eventually witness it i'm sure
Ottoman Fast Imp is real and it can hurt you 😅
Fresh Aussie in the morning, love it!
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Does not say who won WTF? Just says the game is sealed. No announcement of winner. This is an issue with some of these videos casting replays. Like wtf? It doesn't show who wins. So nobody can know who the winner is. And host don't even say who won or left. And no I will not be getting the expansion. I have not even completed the main game.
Watch the gameplay and you can easily see????
They feel more goth fast imp to pump units now.
Bro comes in with the Constantinople door knockers, going full 1453.
Lol english go wth. Gotta just age up vs english. Stop sharing my Otto strategies. 🤣
unfortunately I look like ms Rachel's husband QQ
The triple Dupla
Hey Drongo, You should return to ladder, play some games, get rid of that axiety :) I've had a game against You like a year ago, you've tower spammed as chineese and beat my Abbasid, what a bad way to loose xd Such a dirty Drongo!
he spam him with the bombard not just ordinary one but the great bombard
Ottomans fast imperial? Are we back to AoE3? 😂😂
Anyone else just not able to load this video, every other one works
alright there's the ottoman yll know what to do.... OTTOMAN IS THE WORST CVI IN THIS GAME.
come on get it out of your system