Spain has a very different history from England or the USA. Juan Garrido (black) was a soldier (with Hernan Cortes) who introduced wheat in Mexico. Juan Latino (black) was the first PhD in a european university (Granada). I'm talking of the 16th century! That wouldn't happen in USA till the 1960s.
Hi, my experience as a Spanish (from Spain) person in the US. When I visited for 14 days last year, a black guy tried to beat me up on a bus in Queens and said we all should be kicked out of the US. My crime: having an accent and accidentally looking in his direction.
@@framedmanThe point is that you find idiots everywhere, of course you can take advantage and instrumentalize it... If you are another kind of idiot... Exceptions are not the rule.
Usually Spanish people do not care about your background or appearance as long as you integrate. There is some resentment towards inmigrants from Islamic backgrounds as well.
I remember the first time I went to the United States, I was walking around New York with an American friend who had lived in Spain for several years, and at one point when we were lost in the streets he said to me, a little scared: "be careful not to look people in the eyes, especially black men, because here that is offensive or means you want to fight." It was shocking to me because I was looking at everything very excited, but from then on I was afraid that someone would misinterpret my gestures. It is not unusual in Spain to look people in the eye when you meet them, and if you are black you are more likely to be looked at with curiosity, that has nothing to do with what you have experienced in the US. I do not want to correct your experiences with this, it is just a comment on how easy it is to misinterpret a gesture from a culture with which you have not grown up.
Thanks for sharing that insight, Devio! I appreciate it and will keep that in mind. That's interesting your friend said that. Generally in the US, as long as you say "hi" that usually disarms most people (at least in California, where I'm from). But, staring (especially prolonged staring) can be perceived as rude. New York is a special breed in it's own right lol.
Interesting conversation. I recently watched a fellow UA-camr talking about Girona and the growing antagonism towards cyclists from locals. Locals telling tourists and cyclists to go home and that they were not welcome. These were white people from Ireland. Is what they experienced different from what you experienced? Or is it the same thing and our interpretation is based on our history?
That is more anti-tourism sentiment that some foreigners are experiencing here. I know exactly which video you’re referencing lol. I’ll definitely touch on this and our experience here in another video.
@@andrew9579 Those are very misinformed people who blame tourists for their shitty lives. I understand why they’re angry: in Spain we have low salaries, rent has increased exponentially in touristy areas with Barcelona being #1, and inflation has taken a toll on us. However, they should be attacking the politicians who rule for the elites and the hedge funds which own most of the tourist apartments and the gentrification they generate. Also, this is all mixed with Catalan nationalism, which is the most toxic one (probably tied up with Spanish nationalism). In the end, as I said earlier, they’re just attacking people who saved some money to see a wonderful place and they get their holidays ruined.
I love y’all out here doing what you want regardless of what other people want you to do. Like Gil Scott said “The ground beneath my feet / I know was meant for me.” - a cyclist from Detroit.
It's not rascism. Girona is a place where outsiders, either your white or black, are looked as: "who the heck are you? You're not from here..." I'm from Barcelona and I speek catalan, and when I go to Girona people aren't very friendly until I spend some time talking to them... I'm a foreigner also to them.
What are some good restaurants to check out in Barcelona (the less touristy, the better)? I've been spending most of my time in the various pueblos of Catalunya and Costa Brava and haven't made it down there yet.
@SeeSmithTV there are a LOT of good restaurants in Barcelona. But my advice if you go to visit Barcelona city is to be aware of pickpockets... I would avoid going to the most touristic places as you will be the objective of thief's. And if you have to go to visit whatever you want, just don't show anything expensive as a flashy watch or smartphone... Things are getting fck up in Barcelona city...
Enjoyed listening to the chat and glad your experiences are generally positive. Just wish we could all learn to get on with each other better. How much longer do you plan to stay and in the future, will you stay in any other European locations?
Thanks for taking the time to hang out with us. I appreciate it! I agree with you re: getting on with each other. I’m planning to stay for the foreseeable future, just renewed my Visa earlier this year. I do want to check out other places in Europe. Got any recommendations?
That comment had some good questions about healthcare and jobs.. you were in sales back the US I remember seeing? What sort of “white collar” jobs can someone get over there without being able to speak Spanish or crunch numbers?
Yea, he asked several great questions in his comment. We plan on getting to all of them. You asked a good question too. I’ll try to find someone that has moved here and transitioned into the work force successfully without speaking much Spanish then bring them on.
Very interesting video, I am a spaniard living in the UK and the Netherlands. In the UK I lived with lots of people from everywhere, I am used to all of the colours and cultures, I think when I go back to Spain I always noticed that because there is not so multiculturalism people are more aware of 'other' people. I can't speak for racism against black people because I am not, but I can say there is an ignorance that comes from the lack of exposure to other people. Thank you for sharing your experience.
I think I agree, racism is still racism but it's one probably borne more out of ignorance and prejudice, rather than hatred, only very few feel that way, from my experience.
@@SeeSmithTV Happy to. This was one of the first videos I saw of yours. It made me want to subscribe. (I am white, considering moving to Spain and was super curious to hear your thoughts as I want to get a better sense of life there...in all forms) Thought it was a great convo and made me curious about what other things you talk about on your channel. Was happy to discover you are in Girona! It is one of my favorite places.
Thanks for your support, really appreciate it! Girona is amazing in a lot of ways. If there is anything else you are curious about, feel free to ask and we will try to answer it in a future video. This video was made based off a question we received from another viewer. It's our goal to get to all of the questions throughout this series.
La diferencia es que aquí sois extranjeros y en estados unidos sois nacionales de allí. Aquí la gente tiene prejuicios respecto a los inmigrantes por incidentes (hay mucha gente que viene a delinquir) no es por la raza sino por prejuicios. También es cierto que la gente no solía ver gente negra hasta hace unos 10 años. Ahora están acostumbrados poco a poco. Es normal mirar a las personas que son diferentes por curiosidad, pero eso tampoco es racismo. Si que debe haber gente racista en España como en todas partes pero no al nivel de USA.
Hola Angy. Gracias por compartir tus pensamientos. Si, mas o menos, lo decimos eso en el vídeo. Aquí no es como EEUU. Si tienes curiosidad sobre algo y quieres escuchar nuestros pensamientos, háznoslo saber. Este vídeo es parte de una serie que comenzamos sobre nuestras vidas en España. Seguiremos respondiendo preguntas de espectadores como tu. Un abrazo.
It's an impossible question to answer in 10 mins and I think Will had it right when people will have different experiences that differ from your own. Only thing I might disagree with, is the fact you can't read people's minds. So while the feeling might be one of 'we'd rather not have you around', it's impossible to know if that's what they're thinking. It doesn't change the feeling Will gets, so this isn't about dismissing that, cos it's real if he feels it but guiris as a whole aren't particularly welcome right now, especially the ones who are seen as driving up rents, taking jobs and not making an effort to learn the language etc., not that that's either of you two but it's easy to be put into the same boat and be subject to those sorts of looks. Not everyone is all that welcome towards cyclists in Girona too, so someone in lycra is also subject to that look. I think you're right, it's a different flavour but it still exists. On the whole, though, I've found people to be very welcome and integration, especially with second gen immigrants and the youth isn't bad for a small provincial city. I feel what there definitely is here is a difficulty with third culture, ie, one that isn't Catalan. I have Spanish friends who get the same looks for being from Andalucia or another part of Spain and I also know Honduran and Moroccan people who suffer the same looks and might find their experience with the law a whole degree worse. That being said, it's not a competition, it's just important context to your individual stories. I would say mine are much the same, although the cops were a lot more aggressive with me and I did get fined for texting at a red light with one foot on the sidewalk. In the end they softened when I complied but I let them know in Spanish, it was not cool and they needed to calm down. They took it well, I think. In the UK, they'd have arrested me.
I've noticed it's just because black people are different. I was born in Madrid, but we moved when I was a toddler. When I was in the Navy I was there for one day in Rota, but I did feel a little overly watched when I went to stores, but no one was rude to my face. I've thought about moving back (dual citizenship), but I've always had the off-putting of having to deal with prejudices and racism, but now in a different language on my mind.
@@Cantetinza17 Democracy arrived in Spain in 1978, after a long dictatorship that also brought poverty. In the 80s and 90s, with the economic boom, migrants started moving into the country. I remember being curious as a kid when I saw a black person for the first time. I had never seen one outside my TV… but that was it, curiosity. Nowadays Spain is a very multicultural country with 2nd and 3rd generation migrants so, yeah, unless you go to a village, you won’t be the center of attention anymore.
Mostly It was gossip and being curious Not so Many black people Here before the 90s And the ones we had were from cuba,brasil ,guinea ecuatorial That was normal and normally they are not so defensive about race. And no one uses that card. We have a big left anti racist and antifascist people. I have myself beaten a nazi racist scum that was heckling two children because their african mothers were prostitutes He never appeared again 😂
Hay mucho trabajo por hacer aun en cuanto al racismo en todo el planeta. Espero que algún dia los seres humanos no sepamos ni que significa semejante palabra . Bienvenidos a España y os deseo que vuestra estancia entre nosotros solo os genere felicidad y buenos recuerdos .
@@SeeSmithTV Por cierto mi mayor recomendación es que trateis de hacer amistades con españoles, disfrutareis del pais mucho mas. Habeis probado a apuntaros a un club ciclista local?
He montado con muchos ciclistas españoles y todos han sido geniales. Uno de mis objetivos para el próximo año es hacer más paseos en grupo con tiendas de bicicletas locales (no con las que comercializan a guiris como yo).
Here in Spain, 99% of black people you find in the streets are normally illegal africans, either from Senegal, Cameroon, Nigeria and surrounding countries, that dive into underground economy to survive, if not they're selling illegal pirated goods. Therefore, you may get the same feelings from the population or law enforcement agents.
@@BlackHoleSpain do you have stats to back that up? I know several black people in my city of Girona and none of them are illegal and more than half of them were born here and would see themselves very much as Catalans.
@@framedman also that. But mostly IS people like he says And they being ilegal are nice polite and kind. In the basque country at least they are very nice
@@rolflin it's definitely not the case in Girona or the wider province. No one here sells stuff on the streets and the majority have official jobs. Moreover, like I said, many are born here. I'm not sure what it's like in Pais Basco but it ain't the case here.
Most modern nation states in the West law enforcement especially the US have had their training from the Mossad special branch from Israel. It is these tactics which involve the subjegation, domination and humiliation of anyone they encounter be it the weak, the oppressed, minorities.
Buenos días Señor Sanchez! Vinicius Junior experiences in Spain might be different from our experiences so far here. We do not believe Spaniards as a whole are racist. I really want to encourage you and others to grab a coffee (or cerveza), sit down with us and listen to the conversation in full. We were asked this question by a viewer and we are simply sharing some of our experiences here compared to what we have experienced in America.
Correct. I’ve definitely heard that before from locals here as well. I do plan on visiting the South (Seville, Calp, Granada) soon. Let me know if you have any other towns you think are worth checking out. I’ve got a lot more to explore.
@@SeeSmithTV Hay tantas ciudades en España que son lugares bellos para visitar que es hasta difícil elegir varios entre todos. Casi depende mas de lo que busques tu personalmente .
Me gusta buen comida (pescado mas que carne), café, las playas y las montañas también (cuando no have frío 😅). He vivido aquí durante dos años y me di cuenta de que me gustan más los pueblos pequeños que las grandes ciudades (como Barna). Estoy abierto a cualquier sugerencia que tengas para mí.
@@SeeSmithTV Entonces el norte en verano es tu sitio , mar y montaña, deliciosos pescados y mariscos y pequeños pueblos encantadores. Te recomiendo el otoño y la primavera para viajar al sur y este , menos aglomeraciones de turistas y calor soportable .
It's great you're discussing these things, especially the passive aggressive kind of prejudice. (I plan go bikepacking the Badlands Unplugged route in Andalusia next year.) Looking forward to more cycling videos from you.
you described it perfectly. it's not nearly as overt as in the states, but i got a sense of "they don't want me here," mainly from the older generation or in small towns. i got a lot of stares. in more cosmopolitan cities like madrid and sevilla, everyone treated me very kindly
@@gemela777 any cafe or restaurant recommendations for those two cities? They are high up on my list of places to visit. I need to check out the south of Spain ASAP!
i wish i had restaurant recommendations (i was a broke exhange student in càdiz, so i cooked a lot) but i spent a lot of time in the alfalfa neighborhood in the heart of old sevilla, and príncipe pío in madrid. you will love how accessible sevilla is by bike!
Un espectador nos hizo la pregunta y quiso saber. Que se muestra literalmente en la pantalla en el vídeo. ¿Tal vez te lo perdiste porque no lo viste y en su lugar viniste aquí para hablar negativamente?
El tema este del racismo en España, me aburre ya. El caso es que si quieres ver racismo entre la gente, lo verás, pero si te relajas y vas a tu bola, siendo respetuoso, la gente no se meterá contigo y no lo hará porque seas negro, blanco, rosado, café con leche o mantequilla, sino porque la gente trata a los desconocidos porque lo son y sobre todo por la pinta más que por el color. Pero si nos ponemos exquisitos, entonces yo puedo decir que vosotros me parecéis racistas, por muchas razones, como por ejemplo el victimismo de ser negro, por parecer diferente,(es que lo sois, porque la mayoría en España no tiene ese color de piel), por hablar diferente, por comportaros diferentes, etc, etc, etc y no adaptaros a nuestras costumbres. Además, personalmente no me gustan los ciclistas, sobre todo los que van en paralelo por la calzada, por lo que podéis decir que soy doblemente racista, ya que además de la antipatía que me producen los ciclistas que se hacen dueños de la calzada, se suma que son de color oscuro 😂😂😂😂😂
@@SeeSmithTV Debo ser muy ingenuo, porque pudiera ser que os dierais cuenta que llorando puede que consigáis cosas, pero vais a caer mal, independientemente de vuestro tono de piel, por vuestra actitud victimista y eso no os va a ayudar mucho... Pero algunos vivís de ello. Quizá gracias a opiniones como la mía os deis cuenta que no podéis ir por la vida de víctimas. Concentraros en vivir y dejar vivir y veréis lo mucho que se consigue así.
@SeeSmithTV En todo, porque hablar de racismo implica sentirse víctimas y vuestro vídeo va de eso, de racismo en España. Dais argumentos muy vagos y hasta muy de tópicos, que son del todo inconsistentes.
😂Suenas ridículo. ¿Qué argumentos vagos y clichés eran esos? ¿Y cómo fueron inconsistentes? Te pedí un momento específico en el vídeo en el que afirmamos ser víctimas. No tienes nada que respalde tu afirmación, así que vomitas tonterías😂
@@Gladiator1492 I don't know if you watched the video but I didn't see them playing the victim. Quite the opposite, actually. They've chosen to live here, if they felt like victims, I think they'd find somewhere else to live. Racism is still racism, are we not allowed to talk about it? Like we talk about how shit our football team is or how shit the government are or how AI might ruin our lives. Why is it so triggering for you for two people to share their stories in response to a question that was asked? Maybe you don't have a problem with what colour of skin someone has but plenty of people do. And therefore, I think we're all entitled to ask the question. What they didn't say was that Spain was a racist country, more that racism exists in Spain, isn't widespread and that it's slightly more nuanced and less overt. No playing the victim there.
@@Gladiator1492 I don't know if you watched the video but I didn't see them playing the victim. Quite the opposite, actually. They've chosen to live here, if they felt like victims, I think they'd find somewhere else to live. Racism is still racism, are we not allowed to talk about it? Like we talk about how shit our football team is or how shit the government are or how AI might ruin our lives. Why is it so triggering for you for two people to share their stories in response to a question that was asked? Maybe you don't have a problem with what colour of skin someone has but plenty of people do. And therefore, I think we're all entitled to ask the question. What they didn't say was that Spain was a racist country, more that racism exists in Spain, isn't widespread and that it's slightly more nuanced and less overt. No playing the victim there.
What do you want to know about life in Spain? 🤔
Spain has a very different history from England or the USA. Juan Garrido (black) was a soldier (with Hernan Cortes) who introduced wheat in Mexico. Juan Latino (black) was the first PhD in a european university (Granada). I'm talking of the 16th century! That wouldn't happen in USA till the 1960s.
Hi, my experience as a Spanish (from Spain) person in the US. When I visited for 14 days last year, a black guy tried to beat me up on a bus in Queens and said we all should be kicked out of the US. My crime: having an accent and accidentally looking in his direction.
What's your point?
That’s unfortunate, sorry to hear that.
@@framedman I think his point is that everyone can behave in a racist way, and that happens in every country in the world.
@silverado5306 I'm not sure that was their full point, hence why I wanted them to clarify.
@@framedmanThe point is that you find idiots everywhere, of course you can take advantage and instrumentalize it... If you are another kind of idiot...
Exceptions are not the rule.
Usually Spanish people do not care about your background or appearance as long as you integrate. There is some resentment towards inmigrants from Islamic backgrounds as well.
I remember the first time I went to the United States, I was walking around New York with an American friend who had lived in Spain for several years, and at one point when we were lost in the streets he said to me, a little scared: "be careful not to look people in the eyes, especially black men, because here that is offensive or means you want to fight." It was shocking to me because I was looking at everything very excited, but from then on I was afraid that someone would misinterpret my gestures.
It is not unusual in Spain to look people in the eye when you meet them, and if you are black you are more likely to be looked at with curiosity, that has nothing to do with what you have experienced in the US.
I do not want to correct your experiences with this, it is just a comment on how easy it is to misinterpret a gesture from a culture with which you have not grown up.
Thanks for sharing that insight, Devio! I appreciate it and will keep that in mind. That's interesting your friend said that. Generally in the US, as long as you say "hi" that usually disarms most people (at least in California, where I'm from). But, staring (especially prolonged staring) can be perceived as rude. New York is a special breed in it's own right lol.
Nice video guys, glad its positive there
👊🏾Thanks for hanging out with us
Interesting conversation. I recently watched a fellow UA-camr talking about Girona and the growing antagonism towards cyclists from locals. Locals telling tourists and cyclists to go home and that they were not welcome. These were white people from Ireland. Is what they experienced different from what you experienced? Or is it the same thing and our interpretation is based on our history?
That is more anti-tourism sentiment that some foreigners are experiencing here. I know exactly which video you’re referencing lol. I’ll definitely touch on this and our experience here in another video.
@@andrew9579 Those are very misinformed people who blame tourists for their shitty lives. I understand why they’re angry: in Spain we have low salaries, rent has increased exponentially in touristy areas with Barcelona being #1, and inflation has taken a toll on us. However, they should be attacking the politicians who rule for the elites and the hedge funds which own most of the tourist apartments and the gentrification they generate. Also, this is all mixed with Catalan nationalism, which is the most toxic one (probably tied up with Spanish nationalism).
In the end, as I said earlier, they’re just attacking people who saved some money to see a wonderful place and they get their holidays ruined.
@@alexglez1673 summed up well 🙌
I love y’all out here doing what you want regardless of what other people want you to do. Like Gil Scott said “The ground beneath my feet / I know was meant for me.”
- a cyclist from Detroit.
💯 thanks for your support bro and for hanging out with us
It's not rascism.
Girona is a place where outsiders, either your white or black, are looked as: "who the heck are you? You're not from here..."
I'm from Barcelona and I speek catalan, and when I go to Girona people aren't very friendly until I spend some time talking to them... I'm a foreigner also to them.
What are some good restaurants to check out in Barcelona (the less touristy, the better)? I've been spending most of my time in the various pueblos of Catalunya and Costa Brava and haven't made it down there yet.
@SeeSmithTV there are a LOT of good restaurants in Barcelona. But my advice if you go to visit Barcelona city is to be aware of pickpockets... I would avoid going to the most touristic places as you will be the objective of thief's.
And if you have to go to visit whatever you want, just don't show anything expensive as a flashy watch or smartphone...
Things are getting fck up in Barcelona city...
Enjoyed listening to the chat and glad your experiences are generally positive. Just wish we could all learn to get on with each other better. How much longer do you plan to stay and in the future, will you stay in any other European locations?
Thanks for taking the time to hang out with us. I appreciate it! I agree with you re: getting on with each other. I’m planning to stay for the foreseeable future, just renewed my Visa earlier this year. I do want to check out other places in Europe. Got any recommendations?
That comment had some good questions about healthcare and jobs.. you were in sales back the US I remember seeing? What sort of “white collar” jobs can someone get over there without being able to speak Spanish or crunch numbers?
Yea, he asked several great questions in his comment. We plan on getting to all of them. You asked a good question too. I’ll try to find someone that has moved here and transitioned into the work force successfully without speaking much Spanish then bring them on.
TY for sharing your experiences.
@@fionaslife of course!
Very interesting video, I am a spaniard living in the UK and the Netherlands. In the UK I lived with lots of people from everywhere, I am used to all of the colours and cultures, I think when I go back to Spain I always noticed that because there is not so multiculturalism people are more aware of 'other' people. I can't speak for racism against black people because I am not, but I can say there is an ignorance that comes from the lack of exposure to other people. Thank you for sharing your experience.
I think I agree, racism is still racism but it's one probably borne more out of ignorance and prejudice, rather than hatred, only very few feel that way, from my experience.
I agree and do think that is apart of it. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts!
Very thoughtful. Thanks for sharing.
@@emercxkcorsa thanks for hanging out with us 🙏🏾
@@SeeSmithTV Happy to. This was one of the first videos I saw of yours. It made me want to subscribe. (I am white, considering moving to Spain and was super curious to hear your thoughts as I want to get a better sense of life there...in all forms) Thought it was a great convo and made me curious about what other things you talk about on your channel. Was happy to discover you are in Girona! It is one of my favorite places.
Thanks for your support, really appreciate it! Girona is amazing in a lot of ways. If there is anything else you are curious about, feel free to ask and we will try to answer it in a future video. This video was made based off a question we received from another viewer. It's our goal to get to all of the questions throughout this series.
La diferencia es que aquí sois extranjeros y en estados unidos sois nacionales de allí. Aquí la gente tiene prejuicios respecto a los inmigrantes por incidentes (hay mucha gente que viene a delinquir) no es por la raza sino por prejuicios. También es cierto que la gente no solía ver gente negra hasta hace unos 10 años. Ahora están acostumbrados poco a poco. Es normal mirar a las personas que son diferentes por curiosidad, pero eso tampoco es racismo. Si que debe haber gente racista en España como en todas partes pero no al nivel de USA.
Hola Angy. Gracias por compartir tus pensamientos. Si, mas o menos, lo decimos eso en el vídeo. Aquí no es como EEUU. Si tienes curiosidad sobre algo y quieres escuchar nuestros pensamientos, háznoslo saber. Este vídeo es parte de una serie que comenzamos sobre nuestras vidas en España. Seguiremos respondiendo preguntas de espectadores como tu. Un abrazo.
It's an impossible question to answer in 10 mins and I think Will had it right when people will have different experiences that differ from your own. Only thing I might disagree with, is the fact you can't read people's minds. So while the feeling might be one of 'we'd rather not have you around', it's impossible to know if that's what they're thinking. It doesn't change the feeling Will gets, so this isn't about dismissing that, cos it's real if he feels it but guiris as a whole aren't particularly welcome right now, especially the ones who are seen as driving up rents, taking jobs and not making an effort to learn the language etc., not that that's either of you two but it's easy to be put into the same boat and be subject to those sorts of looks. Not everyone is all that welcome towards cyclists in Girona too, so someone in lycra is also subject to that look. I think you're right, it's a different flavour but it still exists. On the whole, though, I've found people to be very welcome and integration, especially with second gen immigrants and the youth isn't bad for a small provincial city. I feel what there definitely is here is a difficulty with third culture, ie, one that isn't Catalan. I have Spanish friends who get the same looks for being from Andalucia or another part of Spain and I also know Honduran and Moroccan people who suffer the same looks and might find their experience with the law a whole degree worse. That being said, it's not a competition, it's just important context to your individual stories. I would say mine are much the same, although the cops were a lot more aggressive with me and I did get fined for texting at a red light with one foot on the sidewalk. In the end they softened when I complied but I let them know in Spanish, it was not cool and they needed to calm down. They took it well, I think. In the UK, they'd have arrested me.
I've noticed it's just because black people are different. I was born in Madrid, but we moved when I was a toddler. When I was in the Navy I was there for one day in Rota, but I did feel a little overly watched when I went to stores, but no one was rude to my face. I've thought about moving back (dual citizenship), but I've always had the off-putting of having to deal with prejudices and racism, but now in a different language on my mind.
@@Cantetinza17 Democracy arrived in Spain in 1978, after a long dictatorship that also brought poverty. In the 80s and 90s, with the economic boom, migrants started moving into the country. I remember being curious as a kid when I saw a black person for the first time. I had never seen one outside my TV… but that was it, curiosity.
Nowadays Spain is a very multicultural country with 2nd and 3rd generation migrants so, yeah, unless you go to a village, you won’t be the center of attention anymore.
Mostly It was gossip and being curious
Not so Many black people Here before the 90s
And the ones we had were from cuba,brasil ,guinea ecuatorial
That was normal and normally they are not so defensive about race. And no one uses that card. We have a big left anti racist and antifascist people.
I have myself beaten a nazi racist scum that was heckling two children because their african mothers were prostitutes
He never appeared again 😂
Hay mucho trabajo por hacer aun en cuanto al racismo en todo el planeta. Espero que algún dia los seres humanos no sepamos ni que significa semejante palabra .
Bienvenidos a España y os deseo que vuestra estancia entre nosotros solo os genere felicidad y buenos recuerdos .
Gracias. Espero lo mismo. Tu país es genial y amamos nuestras vidas aquí 🍻
@@SeeSmithTV Por cierto mi mayor recomendación es que trateis de hacer amistades con españoles, disfrutareis del pais mucho mas. Habeis probado a apuntaros a un club ciclista local?
He montado con muchos ciclistas españoles y todos han sido geniales. Uno de mis objetivos para el próximo año es hacer más paseos en grupo con tiendas de bicicletas locales (no con las que comercializan a guiris como yo).
Here in Spain, 99% of black people you find in the streets are normally illegal africans, either from Senegal, Cameroon, Nigeria and surrounding countries, that dive into underground economy to survive, if not they're selling illegal pirated goods. Therefore, you may get the same feelings from the population or law enforcement agents.
@@BlackHoleSpain do you have stats to back that up? I know several black people in my city of Girona and none of them are illegal and more than half of them were born here and would see themselves very much as Catalans.
@@framedman also that. But mostly IS people like he says
And they being ilegal are nice polite and kind. In the basque country at least they are very nice
@@rolflin it's definitely not the case in Girona or the wider province. No one here sells stuff on the streets and the majority have official jobs. Moreover, like I said, many are born here. I'm not sure what it's like in Pais Basco but it ain't the case here.
interesting stuff. another reason to bolster my belief that the USA is the worst! hope to see yall around someday in catalunya out on the roads!
@@KeggaGee say what’s up if you do see us! Keep enjoying these amazing roads we’re spoiled with!
@@SeeSmithTV will do mate!! ill be looking for yall!
Most modern nation states in the West law enforcement especially the US have had their training from the Mossad special branch from Israel. It is these tactics which involve the subjegation, domination and humiliation of anyone they encounter be it the weak, the oppressed, minorities.
We in Spain are racist. Vinicius Junior (the player of Real Madrid ) say so, and who are we to contradict him?.
Buenos días Señor Sanchez! Vinicius Junior experiences in Spain might be different from our experiences so far here. We do not believe Spaniards as a whole are racist. I really want to encourage you and others to grab a coffee (or cerveza), sit down with us and listen to the conversation in full. We were asked this question by a viewer and we are simply sharing some of our experiences here compared to what we have experienced in America.
@@SeeSmithTV If you say so
just one thing, you are talking about Girona which is a very closed society even for Spanish people from other parts of the country.
Correct. I’ve definitely heard that before from locals here as well. I do plan on visiting the South (Seville, Calp, Granada) soon. Let me know if you have any other towns you think are worth checking out. I’ve got a lot more to explore.
@@SeeSmithTV Hay tantas ciudades en España que son lugares bellos para visitar que es hasta difícil elegir varios entre todos.
Casi depende mas de lo que busques tu personalmente .
Me gusta buen comida (pescado mas que carne), café, las playas y las montañas también (cuando no have frío 😅). He vivido aquí durante dos años y me di cuenta de que me gustan más los pueblos pequeños que las grandes ciudades (como Barna). Estoy abierto a cualquier sugerencia que tengas para mí.
@@SeeSmithTV Entonces el norte en verano es tu sitio , mar y montaña, deliciosos pescados y mariscos y pequeños pueblos encantadores.
Te recomiendo el otoño y la primavera para viajar al sur y este , menos aglomeraciones de turistas y calor soportable .
Muchas gracias
It's great you're discussing these things, especially the passive aggressive kind of prejudice. (I plan go bikepacking the Badlands Unplugged route in Andalusia next year.) Looking forward to more cycling videos from you.
Thanks for the support! Good luck at Badlands as well. That’s a big challenge. Enjoy the experience and make the best of it 🍻
you described it perfectly. it's not nearly as overt as in the states, but i got a sense of "they don't want me here," mainly from the older generation or in small towns. i got a lot of stares. in more cosmopolitan cities like madrid and sevilla, everyone treated me very kindly
@@gemela777 any cafe or restaurant recommendations for those two cities? They are high up on my list of places to visit. I need to check out the south of Spain ASAP!
i wish i had restaurant recommendations (i was a broke exhange student in càdiz, so i cooked a lot) but i spent a lot of time in the alfalfa neighborhood in the heart of old sevilla, and príncipe pío in madrid. you will love how accessible sevilla is by bike!
La baza del racismo cuando no tienes más ideas de contenido ya esta muy visto. Que los estadounidenses hablen de racismo en otro país es de chiste.
Un espectador nos hizo la pregunta y quiso saber. Que se muestra literalmente en la pantalla en el vídeo. ¿Tal vez te lo perdiste porque no lo viste y en su lugar viniste aquí para hablar negativamente?
El tema este del racismo en España, me aburre ya. El caso es que si quieres ver racismo entre la gente, lo verás, pero si te relajas y vas a tu bola, siendo respetuoso, la gente no se meterá contigo y no lo hará porque seas negro, blanco, rosado, café con leche o mantequilla, sino porque la gente trata a los desconocidos porque lo son y sobre todo por la pinta más que por el color. Pero si nos ponemos exquisitos, entonces yo puedo decir que vosotros me parecéis racistas, por muchas razones, como por ejemplo el victimismo de ser negro, por parecer diferente,(es que lo sois, porque la mayoría en España no tiene ese color de piel), por hablar diferente, por comportaros diferentes, etc, etc, etc y no adaptaros a nuestras costumbres. Además, personalmente no me gustan los ciclistas, sobre todo los que van en paralelo por la calzada, por lo que podéis decir que soy doblemente racista, ya que además de la antipatía que me producen los ciclistas que se hacen dueños de la calzada, se suma que son de color oscuro 😂😂😂😂😂
Si te aburre, ¿por qué estás aquí compartiendo tus pensamientos?😂🤣
@@SeeSmithTV Debo ser muy ingenuo, porque pudiera ser que os dierais cuenta que llorando puede que consigáis cosas, pero vais a caer mal, independientemente de vuestro tono de piel, por vuestra actitud victimista y eso no os va a ayudar mucho... Pero algunos vivís de ello. Quizá gracias a opiniones como la mía os deis cuenta que no podéis ir por la vida de víctimas. Concentraros en vivir y dejar vivir y veréis lo mucho que se consigue así.
😂Dime ¿en qué parte del vídeo afirmamos ser víctimas?
@SeeSmithTV En todo, porque hablar de racismo implica sentirse víctimas y vuestro vídeo va de eso, de racismo en España. Dais argumentos muy vagos y hasta muy de tópicos, que son del todo inconsistentes.
😂Suenas ridículo. ¿Qué argumentos vagos y clichés eran esos? ¿Y cómo fueron inconsistentes? Te pedí un momento específico en el vídeo en el que afirmamos ser víctimas. No tienes nada que respalde tu afirmación, así que vomitas tonterías😂
Please, don't ruin Spain with victimist claims. Keep that in the USA. I don't care whether your black or green, just don't make it an issue.
@@Gladiator1492 I don't know if you watched the video but I didn't see them playing the victim. Quite the opposite, actually. They've chosen to live here, if they felt like victims, I think they'd find somewhere else to live. Racism is still racism, are we not allowed to talk about it? Like we talk about how shit our football team is or how shit the government are or how AI might ruin our lives. Why is it so triggering for you for two people to share their stories in response to a question that was asked? Maybe you don't have a problem with what colour of skin someone has but plenty of people do. And therefore, I think we're all entitled to ask the question. What they didn't say was that Spain was a racist country, more that racism exists in Spain, isn't widespread and that it's slightly more nuanced and less overt. No playing the victim there.
@@Gladiator1492 I don't know if you watched the video but I didn't see them playing the victim. Quite the opposite, actually. They've chosen to live here, if they felt like victims, I think they'd find somewhere else to live. Racism is still racism, are we not allowed to talk about it? Like we talk about how shit our football team is or how shit the government are or how AI might ruin our lives. Why is it so triggering for you for two people to share their stories in response to a question that was asked? Maybe you don't have a problem with what colour of skin someone has but plenty of people do. And therefore, I think we're all entitled to ask the question. What they didn't say was that Spain was a racist country, more that racism exists in Spain, isn't widespread and that it's slightly more nuanced and less overt. No playing the victim there.
What “victimist” claims did we make? Please provide the time stamp.
The answer is yes, they don't want you there
I can’t say that I agree because the government could’ve easily denied our Visa applications (and renewals) if that were the case.
Right, you neither.😮😮😮
That's a lie😂
Unsubscribed, guess I’m racist
UA-cam is a big place, my friend. I’m sure you’ll find whatever content you’re looking for 🤝🏾God speed.
Go cry for attention somewhere else.
@@SeeSmithTV You know dang well he wasn't a subscriber to begin with LoL
@@SeeSmithTV All class. 👍 I'll fill in that missing sub 😆
@@eto2352 😂🍻