Thanks for the review I own the CX90 Turbo SPP and i love it. Now thinking about the CX70 as another vehicle to get. Agree with all what you said. Cx90 and 70 still underrated in my opinion as people are looking for a family hauling thing not caring about driving dynamics/experience.
This is great to hear. We've been doing videos on our new CX-5, 3 episodes so far on long term ownership. We really like it. I've had a Mazda 3 in the past that was really good to us, and of course our Miata was our favorite. Hoping to have another Miata some day. I really hope the new inline 6 is discovered by many. It's quite good. Really great to hear about your experience.
Throttle feels better in Sport. In Normal, down low, there is some hesitation on initial tip-in. That is noticeably improved in Sport. Like the turning radius, even though it doesn't have rear wheel steering. There are too many audible alerts in the safety system, but they can be turned off. Nice machine overall, at this trim level. Mazda wants to sell them, too. Got $4,000 off MSRP, plus a good return on trade-in of my 2017 Signature C-9. I liked that car fine, but this one is a cut above. That six is impressive for an AWD SUV at this price point, especially since mileage is as good as the four was in my C-9. I'm something of a motorhead. When it comes to SUVs, I've had a 2021 F-Pace SVR with a supercharged V8, which I've recently traded in for a 2025 Range Rover Sport with a twin turbo V8. This car is not those when it comes to driving dynamics. But it's less than half the price, and its cabin and dynamics are nothing to sneeze at. It's the wife's main drive around town now.
Like your analysis. I, too, believe the CX-70 to be really good initial value for the $$. I'd be interested to hear more about your experiences in maintenance and upkeep as it compares to the Rover after you've had each vehicle for a while down the road. This is a new drivetrain for Mazda, and I'm really interested to see how it's going for owners long-term. What made you shop the CX-70? Interested to know if you shopped the new MDX as well.
@@DriveItOut The RR is almost certanly going to cost more to operate and maintain. Pretty amazing air suspension ride, though, surprisingly agile and with beaucoup power and torque. I never would have given up the SVR on my own, but the better half wanted the RR. The MDX I would have wanted by performance is the S model, but it cost too much spec'd as I'd like it. CX-70 seemed a better value. Fits my line-up better, as it's replacing the C-9.
@@DriveItOut Jag has a racing heritage, which you feel and hear behind the wheel. No air suspension, superb exhaust sound and a button to push to open a valve and hear it roar. LR tradition is not racing. It's very capable when pushed, but no rawness to it at all. The RR is really LR with fewer offroad pretensions. The target audience is different, or has been. Owned by the same company, and dunno whether Jag will even survive.
I mean I wish the rear hatch was trimmed a bit more than what they did. It still looks like a suv minivan from the back and I can't unsee it. They slapped some cosmetic changes from the 90 and called it a new model. There's more than enough room for most people if they trimmed it up a bit and made it less heavy and more agile. Somewhere between the 60 and the 90. That's my only gripe. It's not different enough form the 90 to warrant paying the same and not getting the utility of a third row.
It really does look good in person. It doesn't put out minivan vibes. Also, I know many people dont think the slight changes warrant a different model name from the CX-90, but it doesn't bother me. The Honda Pilot and Passport aren't that different. Just one has 2 rows, and the other has 3 rows, and nobody seems to care all that much. Sometimes, they make model name decisions strictly for marketing purposes. The CX-70 has tons and tons of cargo room, and it gets to brag about that separate from the CX-90. Maybe there is some marketing reason there. I'm not sure. I personally wish more vehicles had actual names instead of just combinations of numbers and letters. It's supposed to make things feel more sophisticated or luxurious, but numbers and letters are boring to me. Most of the cars I love the most have actual names. Thanks a ton for watching!
@@DriveItOut Of course, great review! Agreed, the CX-70 is a great car in its own right and perhaps if it was released at the same time as 90 or even before, it'd be different, but the longing for a more sporty 2-row with the new powertrain and interior design is still there and with the 60 from arms reach, it just feels upsetting. I wanted it and I don't want the 70's bulk. the PIlot/Passport template would have been perfect - There's a 7 inch difference in length and 2 inches in height and the weight difference is dramatic and that affects agility and mobility and "sportiness". In fact, despite the Pilot being 10" shorter, there's actually more useable cargo than the 70 (due to the I6). Just a more refined rear design without the need for a bulgy component for the headroom would have been enough to capture a larger buying audience and the sales numbers will eventually show that shortcoming.
We shall see. Perhaps the next generation CX-70 will differentiate itself more. The RWD bias definitely makes it more sporty to drive than competitors. If it were slightly smaller i think it could really give the MDX a run for its money. I also still think the Pilot and Passport are so similar that most people don't know the difference. But, yah, put a sportback stile roof on the back of the CX-70 to look more sleek and go after the MDX. I love that idea the more I think about it. There's no 3rd row to worry about headroom. Although, the MDX has that tiny 3rd row. It's tuff to find direct competitors for the CX-70. The Passport is FWD bias and not luxurious enough to compete with it in my mind. Anyways, good conversation.
I bought a 2025 Melting Copper Metallic w/ “Greige” leather interior CX-70 PHEV Premium (special-ordered from Japan, as all dealer-allocated vehicles w/ Premium trim packages in my region had black interiors), and paid the exact same as I would have for a 3-row CX-90 PHEV Premium, but getting blacked-out exterior trim (I hate chrome) and avoiding a 3rd row for rugruts (my late wife & I consciously didn’t have children), having an adjustable, 60/40-split bench rear seat (instead of 2nd-row captains’ chairs straight from the ‘70s!).
Sounds like quite a ride. Hope you love it! Perhaps you need a Miata in a really cool color to fit next to it in the garage. Perfect for dates and fun get aways. That would be a great garage. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review
I own the CX90 Turbo SPP and i love it. Now thinking about the CX70 as another vehicle to get. Agree with all what you said. Cx90 and 70 still underrated in my opinion as people are looking for a family hauling thing not caring about driving dynamics/experience.
How many miles have you put on your CX-90?
Thanks for watching!
@@DriveItOut about 12000 miles in six months:)
Thats awesome. Great to hear. Is it your first Mazda?
@@DriveItOut nope, i am a long time Mazda owner, mazda 3 and 5. Really impressed with this new powertrains
This is great to hear. We've been doing videos on our new CX-5, 3 episodes so far on long term ownership. We really like it. I've had a Mazda 3 in the past that was really good to us, and of course our Miata was our favorite. Hoping to have another Miata some day. I really hope the new inline 6 is discovered by many. It's quite good. Really great to hear about your experience.
Throttle feels better in Sport. In Normal, down low, there is some hesitation on initial tip-in. That is noticeably improved in Sport. Like the turning radius, even though it doesn't have rear wheel steering. There are too many audible alerts in the safety system, but they can be turned off.
Nice machine overall, at this trim level. Mazda wants to sell them, too. Got $4,000 off MSRP, plus a good return on trade-in of my 2017 Signature C-9. I liked that car fine, but this one is a cut above. That six is impressive for an AWD SUV at this price point, especially since mileage is as good as the four was in my C-9.
I'm something of a motorhead. When it comes to SUVs, I've had a 2021 F-Pace SVR with a supercharged V8, which I've recently traded in for a 2025 Range Rover Sport with a twin turbo V8. This car is not those when it comes to driving dynamics. But it's less than half the price, and its cabin and dynamics are nothing to sneeze at. It's the wife's main drive around town now.
Like your analysis. I, too, believe the CX-70 to be really good initial value for the $$. I'd be interested to hear more about your experiences in maintenance and upkeep as it compares to the Rover after you've had each vehicle for a while down the road. This is a new drivetrain for Mazda, and I'm really interested to see how it's going for owners long-term. What made you shop the CX-70? Interested to know if you shopped the new MDX as well.
@@DriveItOut The RR is almost certanly going to cost more to operate and maintain. Pretty amazing air suspension ride, though, surprisingly agile and with beaucoup power and torque. I never would have given up the SVR on my own, but the better half wanted the RR.
The MDX I would have wanted by performance is the S model, but it cost too much spec'd as I'd like it. CX-70 seemed a better value. Fits my line-up better, as it's replacing the C-9.
I dig it. Nicely done. I bet you all will enjoy the RR and the CX-70 for quite a while. What do you miss about the Jag?
@@DriveItOut Jag has a racing heritage, which you feel and hear behind the wheel. No air suspension, superb exhaust sound and a button to push to open a valve and hear it roar.
LR tradition is not racing. It's very capable when pushed, but no rawness to it at all. The RR is really LR with fewer offroad pretensions. The target audience is different, or has been. Owned by the same company, and dunno whether Jag will even survive.
Jag is definitely up in the air. I really liked the F-Type. Would have loved to see another gen. Have you owned any older LR's?
I mean I wish the rear hatch was trimmed a bit more than what they did. It still looks like a suv minivan from the back and I can't unsee it. They slapped some cosmetic changes from the 90 and called it a new model. There's more than enough room for most people if they trimmed it up a bit and made it less heavy and more agile. Somewhere between the 60 and the 90. That's my only gripe. It's not different enough form the 90 to warrant paying the same and not getting the utility of a third row.
It really does look good in person. It doesn't put out minivan vibes. Also, I know many people dont think the slight changes warrant a different model name from the CX-90, but it doesn't bother me. The Honda Pilot and Passport aren't that different. Just one has 2 rows, and the other has 3 rows, and nobody seems to care all that much. Sometimes, they make model name decisions strictly for marketing purposes. The CX-70 has tons and tons of cargo room, and it gets to brag about that separate from the CX-90. Maybe there is some marketing reason there. I'm not sure.
I personally wish more vehicles had actual names instead of just combinations of numbers and letters. It's supposed to make things feel more sophisticated or luxurious, but numbers and letters are boring to me. Most of the cars I love the most have actual names. Thanks a ton for watching!
@@DriveItOut Of course, great review! Agreed, the CX-70 is a great car in its own right and perhaps if it was released at the same time as 90 or even before, it'd be different, but the longing for a more sporty 2-row with the new powertrain and interior design is still there and with the 60 from arms reach, it just feels upsetting. I wanted it and I don't want the 70's bulk. the PIlot/Passport template would have been perfect - There's a 7 inch difference in length and 2 inches in height and the weight difference is dramatic and that affects agility and mobility and "sportiness". In fact, despite the Pilot being 10" shorter, there's actually more useable cargo than the 70 (due to the I6). Just a more refined rear design without the need for a bulgy component for the headroom would have been enough to capture a larger buying audience and the sales numbers will eventually show that shortcoming.
We shall see. Perhaps the next generation CX-70 will differentiate itself more. The RWD bias definitely makes it more sporty to drive than competitors. If it were slightly smaller i think it could really give the MDX a run for its money. I also still think the Pilot and Passport are so similar that most people don't know the difference. But, yah, put a sportback stile roof on the back of the CX-70 to look more sleek and go after the MDX. I love that idea the more I think about it. There's no 3rd row to worry about headroom. Although, the MDX has that tiny 3rd row. It's tuff to find direct competitors for the CX-70. The Passport is FWD bias and not luxurious enough to compete with it in my mind. Anyways, good conversation.
I bought a 2025 Melting Copper Metallic w/ “Greige” leather interior CX-70 PHEV Premium (special-ordered from Japan, as all dealer-allocated vehicles w/ Premium trim packages in my region had black interiors), and paid the exact same as I would have for a 3-row CX-90 PHEV Premium, but getting blacked-out exterior trim (I hate chrome) and avoiding a 3rd row for rugruts (my late wife & I consciously didn’t have children), having an adjustable, 60/40-split bench rear seat (instead of 2nd-row captains’ chairs straight from the ‘70s!).
Sounds like quite a ride. Hope you love it! Perhaps you need a Miata in a really cool color to fit next to it in the garage. Perfect for dates and fun get aways. That would be a great garage. Thanks for watching.