There' s nothing comparible to the joy while digging boxes in a record shop and finally you found a tune you've been searching for long time, I don't want to miss this haptic feeling
I was lucky and decided to keep my records, from back in the day. I have about 25,000 of the little dears. I also had about 25,000 CD's. A couple of years ago, I was moving and it was time to downsize. So far, I've sold about 14,000 CD's and didn't really blink. I just didn't have an emotional attachment to them. I couldn't sell a single record. In fact, since the move, I've probably purchased and been given about 3,000 albums. I believe that there's a confluence of reasons. The inherent awkwardness of vinyl and playing it makes us pay attention. CD's just slide into a little box and you don't see them again for 60-70 minutes. Your concentration just isn't there. Your mind wanders and you stop absorbing and enjoying the music. Even worse with streaming. It never stops and you never see it. With a record, you have to change it every 25 minutes. You watch it spin around. You hold that big cover. It makes you pay attention. Whether vinyl sounds better or not - the way you listen to it is better. That to me, is the main difference.
@@markmarkofkane8167 Collecting all those records has not been the most sensible thing I've ever done, but it has certainly been one of the most enjoyable.
I totally agree. It really gives you a true experience. That's why I love vinyl. And cassettes too for that matter. People have the audacity to call records "hipster bullshit," I absolutely hate it when people say stuff like that. It enrages me. People who say that obviously don't get it. People have the right to listen to music on whatever format they like. Music is about the experience and having fun. No one has any right to talk bad about someone's hobby if they enjoy it. Just because it's not as convenient as streaming doesn't mean it's bad.
I am 34 and I bought my first record when I was 18 , when it wasn t trending. My dad said it was a waste of time as vinyl never would come back. I love Cds but there is something funny about playing a record. It is a way of saying to this digital world hey I have something real here. Oh, and the sleeves, they are gorgeous
I think the current 'Hipster movement' re-popularized vinyl as a cool and unique thing to do. Pretty soon it was all over social media... Then us old-timers took notice of the increased talk and availability of vinyl and vinyl related products and were consequently drawn into our own nostalgia. Vinyl provides us an emotional connection to who we once were... I can remember my first girlfriend in technicolor when I listen to Genesis. I can once again feel the butterflies in my stomach when I was around her. I can smell her perfume and feel the warm summer breeze all around me. Yes, vinyl brings back a profound sense of 'being there' simply by dropping the needle... Now that's power. Good video as usual Craig, thank you.
OOOOhh..Randy..so close to the mark I'll call it a Bullseye..and just as it came back I see it gone allready..and once again the old farts are stuck with there vinyl..yes Im older than you two guys and saw the trend and dumped in 2014 and made a killing and now am free of the dead weight of it all and just because I saved about 100 78's for myself, value wise worthless just like your tons of vinyl is and will be going into the future...tech fads are what they are, a "BLIPVERT" in time..whats Hot now, Cassette Players for about a new york minute..I have mine and you can blue tooth them..am I gonna collect more? hell no look at the price there bringing on e-bay! that fad hasnt peeked yet...but will , so rush off and buy high for that Holy Grail Sony TC-D5M..AND NOTE! how all them silly players are marked VINTAGE-RARE..and dust off your RUN D.M.C. TAPE "RAISING HELL" and start makeing money on the new fad before it's too late.
@@allenschmitz9644As far as know the hipster movement only exists in the U.S. but the vinyl movement is worldwide. I think rebirth It started in japan. Hipsters are apart of it but I don't think they started it.
@@arnoldlee2063 “hipsters” (essentially young people who liked underground music) “started” it in the late 90’s/early 2000s. As vinyl became unpopular underground bands began releasing stuff on vinyl (usually 7”) because it was incredibly cheap. Also a lot of older obscure stuff wasn’t available on CD either. As “hipster” essentially became how young people all over the world started to dress/act and turned into the mainstream (like every youth subculture ultimately does), vinyl became mainstream too, just how tapered jeans were lame in the 90s but are very very basic now. Japan has always been into vintage stuff and Americana though so I doubt they ever stopped listening to records and wearing cool clothes 🤣, that’s where all the old blue note pressings and quality Levi’s are now.
I just started getting into vinyl a couple months ago. I picked up a Denon turntable at Best Buy one day. Got a couple records from target. Besides the sound there’s just something about deliberately putting on a record that makes you really listen to the music. With my iPod and streaming for the last 2 decades. You play music and you kinda forget the music is playing. When you buy something physical. You just appreciate it more.
I do believe that cd sound is pleasant once paired with a quality dac. But listening to a record is like drinking pure water. I always listen to 3 complete records in a session as it is so mellow.
Still have my records from the late 60s onwards, never got rid of them. Bought a turntable last week, first time I've played a record in 20 years. Loving it, records are very special.
I still have all my records from the seventees on and i play vinyl brcause.... 1. Some records sound better then their cd equivalent 2. I like collecting music on vinyl 3. Nostalgia for sure 4. Much more intense listening experience 5. I can now afford hifi equipment I couldn't when I was young 6. I also bought a high end cassettedeck and am copying vinyl onto tape - again. Lo ve it!
Got back in cassette again too. Amazing results with good tape and a good deck. I'm enjoying cassettes now again just as vinyl. The turntable has the magic spinning and the cassette the amazing spinning of the hubs to watch. A vinyl recording on a good tape, which sounds as good as the vinyl. How more more analogue do you want it :)
I agree TOTALLY! I have 'vinyl' dating back to 1959, including several MONO records. I love vinyl so much MORE having played around with "under sampled- over corrected" CDs for the past 30yrs. I haven't purchased a CD in about 20 yrs and don't plan to in the next 20.
Great seeing you again. To me it's the ritual, the sleeves the hunt for old but clean records, a way to enjoy my amp+speakers, watching youtube vinyl tv etc. etc. ;-)
For me it’s simply the sound. It’s so much more lively and present, it’s the shortest path from the music vibration back in the studio to your ears. And besides, if you take good care, records last forever.
You'd need way more than a thousand dollar phono cartridge to even come near the best cd players under $2,000 for sound quality. You wouldn't judge the quality of lps using a $35 cartridge. Why would you judge the quality of cds using $300 players? Some of them are real good at around $1,700. You'd be hard pressed to match it's sound quality with analog. I am an analog buff too; and I do know what I'm saying. The sound of cds can be as analog sounding as analog. Believe it or not. I believe it now. I now know. It lacks nothing at all in any way. Except the aggravation of finding just the right pressing and condition. Cds are usually real good pressings. Lps are usually NOT that good a pressing.
@@TheOzthewiz i prefer music as it was recorded not a bad sample like 30% of the music as in cd´s . Digital, which is a form of recording music by using not analog support as i prefer because even when listening to a cd ,the sound is analogue or you would only listen to noise ,like a game charging on a 48k spectrum from sinclair, so if music all is analogue why use a convertion to a convertion than to recording a convertion to other conversion, but not all want or need to hear all the music but a part of it is enough kind of a bad sample and they used to say there were bad cassette decks when all the world hears music worst than a recording made in the worst recording cassette deck , i used to record electronic music and all the system was electronic only when recording it in my home studio i converted the signal to analogue and then cassette or cd ,i did this for 35 years only in the 90´s i bought a roland groove box with a sampler and a midi keyboard and stoped in 2005, i started with a church organ that had rythm keyboard and playable sounds that resemble real instruments in a electronic way ,then a Moog and a melotron and a yamaha electronic piano and all analogue instruments you can imagine, also a collection of microphones and amplifiers with(or , and) speakers
@@sidesup8286 it´s true allthough i didn´t pay but in mid 90´s i bought a belt driven cd player from CEC ,i searched recentelly for it and it´s still being sold by 36.000€ and that doesn´t improve the bad quality of the cd an absolete format from the 70´s , the record if you have a turntable made before 79 when they were all good even the cheapest. Today your numbers are right , but if one doesn´t like guitars or voice or drums which are impossible to put into cd with a faithfull sound, while regular vinil or records are faithfull to the sound recorded in studios because not a wall covered with digital to analog converters can translate what is heard in analogue and cds since early 90´s are badly built the pressing is named burning ,the main problem is the bad quality of then new material (1990)at the time to be burned
I got my first turntable (old unit from '85) this week and today I finally played a couple of records for the very first time. It was SUCH an experience that I actually shed a lot of tears of joy. It's exactly what is being said in this video: music is an experience and that's why people are going back to vinyls. Digital music doesn't engage me as much anymore. It's handy, of course, but the whole ritual of putting a record on the plate, positioning the tonearm and actually enjoying music rather than making it feel just like a background noise... well, it's priceless :')
The inconvenience of what you go through to play a record is exactly why I think it came back. It forces you to be part of the experience. And just like you, I think cds sound amazing too and I won’t be getting rid of them anytime soon but vinyl records, it’s nostalgic for some, you won’t get bored (like clicking a button to download music), and it’s just good fun!
The one thing I will say about CDs and why I could care less about them is my house was burgled back in '91. When I got the call from the cops at work and arrived home, EVERYTING I owned was gone...all my CD's...many of which were personaly autographed as I worked in a record store at the time. In those CD jewel cases I would keep the concert ticket stubs- GONE...irreplaceable items, just wiped out. ALL the vinyl I've had and kept since I was a pre-teen- every single album was still there...because it's a lot easier to throw a bunch of CD's in a pillow case and haul 'em off than it is 12 inch LP's. 🤘🏻
Love your channel. I'm 20 from England and I started collecting vinyl a few months ago, got myself an lp120 turntable. Yeah I agree with what you say, digital sounds excellent but you lose that charm and the enjoyment that comes with listening to a record. Keep up the videos, you seem like a cool guy, and I love Rush too!
With records it's very much a ritual. You have to be careful every step of the way. I enjoy both records and CDs but hate streaming. I've been informed that the bit rates are getting better for streaming but give me a lump of black vinyl any day.
@Virality TV Record collection literally grows on a daily basis. But at the moment the CD collection is expanding rapidly too. CDs are so cheap at the moment. Recently picked up 10 mint Peter gabriel CDs for £10. A pound a pop well it would be rude not to.
@Virality TV Ebay that included p&p too. Pick up a similar amount of Genesis CDs up from Shpock for £20. Like I said with a bit of patience there are some excellent deals out there. God bless Spotify.
Virality TV So much fun collecting vinyl What we took for granted in the 60s and 70s we now respect and cherish How lucky to have grown up in those times
That i can agree with u on this subject. I've been collecting 45's & albums since my teenager years (12). Listening to the tunes of my youth perticuallary mid 60's up thru the early 90"s brings back memories to me.
I find it akin to going out for a trail walk, versus watch a hi def video of a trail walk. One is a real active experience, the other is much more passive. Maybe this is a bad analogy, but it’s close.
I think the record companies were as shocked as you were. I think people just see vinyl as the only format worth owning. Ask my kids. You can stream anything, but to own your favorite artists’s piece of physical music is a special thing. In my opinion, with the right equipment, vinyl will always sound better than any other format.
I’m buying vinyl again because I grew up listening to it. Back then it was like a ritual listening to an album and the warm sound the analog sound reproduced. Over the years listening to digital music I realized that something in the sound was not the same (That Warm sound I used to hear back in the 70’s/80’s with vinyl and cassette tape).
Another great video! To me it’s the ritual, the cover arts, and not to forget, when you Play a record, you play it without skipping songs. When you stream music it is to easy to skip tracks, and I think Steaming do not give you the same calmness when you playing music. You’re already looking for the next track when you stream music. So for me it is a way to relax and better enjoy the listening.
You said it : It's a beautiful object, and a full listening experience in itself that involves picking the record, cleaning it up, looking at the insert, dropping the needle and waiting for the first sound to come out after the "craack" and "pop".
The engineers of 1950-1980's compared to the ones that are clueless today......there's really no comparison. Perhaps the loudness monster they've created have altered their brains into thinking loudness & compression is good & normal.
@@philip6502 CD Rot is a "real thing", believe it or not... There is CD Rot and also the issues of layer separation if there was any inconsistency in the manufacturing process, and the layers begin separating. After reading about this phenomenon, I went through my entire CD Collection, which is probably around 300 CD's and most of them over 25 years old, stored in meticulously good conditions, and I have took notice to about 4 of them which have begun "layer separation". Having tested them, one of them begins skipping in one of my CD players at points where it has difficulty reading the material.
I'm a little older than you but ditto. I still have two record players I bought back in 1978. Technic SL-1200 MK2 although I got rid of my mixer from back then a long time ago. (A Radio Shack mixer.) I even still have some records I bought back in the 1960s.
Me too! I started listening to vinyl, 8 track, FM Radio, then cassette tapes. I returned listening to vinyl records, did not really stop, and I believe it my preferred playback of listening to music.
I'm 37 i still have vinyls from the 80's. Then the 90's were all about CD's but i started collecting vynil again in 2003 and it was already getting popular enough to find new most releases including from indie labels. So all in all there's only been 15 years without it.
I'm about your age and NEVER gave up my turntable/s even though I did purchase and collect CDs since the mid-1980s. I STILL wanted that format around. I also use cassettes although I prefer to use blanks don't have many unused blanks left! With that said, If I ever was to get another tape deck, I'd probably get a high-end Sony or Harman-Kardan (sp?) or something similar.
Cool, I'm 63 and had my first Technic direct turntable in 1975-76 and got many vinyls from Tower Records! Hear them through my Klipsch Hersey then. Now, I just got a new Audio -Technica and playing them through my Klipschorn I got back in the early 90"s, Heavenly sound!! Keep up with the good work Vinyl TV!
For me vinyl never went away, I have literally a handful of CDs but about 300 albums. As you say listening to vinyl has to be a hands on experience but having to get off your backside and turn the disc over etc breaks up the listening moment and provides added interest.
record companys still dont get it .. they think we want the medium vinyl in it self .. they don´t get that we want all analog sound from vinyl ... thats why we get soo much crap theese days
I have been surrounded with vinyl records from my birthday. I remember how we regularly went to the record store to buy something for me and something for the elders. I still have some of those old records with songs for kids and audio plays. My uncle brought records from his friends and also had many of the rock vinyls, some of them being swapped for jeans or bottles of whiskey. When the age of CD arrived I quickly adopted that format and started collecting CDs (as much as my pocket allowed). But something was missing from that format: the aesthetics! The CDs (especially from the first wave) lacked that special feeling when you hold the record in your hands, feel its smell, weight, texture of the cover. If it is gatefold or has inner covers, inserts, posters, stickers or some other extras, or has special design we could spend days by exploring them. Listening to the music with or without following the lyrics is a unique experience, especially because I still can't conceive how practically the grooves store the music (although I understand the physics). So, in my case the factors are good memory, aesthetics and magic of the format. Thank you!
I think analog came back because, what's old is new again. It's also an interactive experience, playing a song on MP3 is, what I call, a preset experience. Sometimes it's just good to hear Chuck Berry music in it's natural environment. As a side thought: for me it's good fun just to walk around in a really good indie record store. Screw the big music store chains.
For me I've used nothing but streaming services for a few years now and before that digital tracks, but I still had all my old CDs and I wanted a proper stereo, a component Hi-Fi. I went down the 70s-80s track with it and so of course a record player needs to be part of that. So here we are. I have a very modest collection of Vinyl, but it's slowly growing. What you say about physically engaging with the music is a big factor, also the concept of listening to an album without an option to skip tracks or change stations is oddly satisfying - you're hearing it how the artist intended - and when you consider Vinyl mastering (which is often quite different from the mastering/mixing for CD) that's particularly true for most 60s, 70s and 80s music. Of course I have a cassette deck too and I dare say the humble cassette is set to come back in a very big way. The SQ is actually very good and it's a reasonably convenient format and most of all - it's analog, which having grown up in a very digital era, really appeals to me
I got back to vinyl, because i wanted to be young again, and listening to my favorite albums from back then, such as The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon, Piano man... and so on, give me the illusion of a brought back youth lol... and, after all, and a hard life of working an suffering, and loss of many things in my life, i wanted to bring back something with Style into my life! And , not to forget, i want that the musicians ge money for their valuable work!. And, to buy a record means, to me, that i have a piece of music that i own! No one can take my records down from a streaming playlist! It`s mine, till i die! And, not to forget Michael Fremer: Vinyl sounds better than Streaming a mp3 !
I am new to vinyl and it definitely is an experience, more work but definitely more engaging and fun, plus the sound of vinyl, was not a believer until I actually went through the experience.
I love owning the physical media. Handling it, getting it loaded.. looking at the photos, notes, etc. The large format of LP vinyl is awesome, but the LP is just too fragile. CDs are awesome, but the packaging is too small. CDs done properly sound great. Just as good as LPs. It's the overuse of compression that kills the sound.. the "loudness wars" I wish music labels would package CDs in the 12" vinyl packaging. That would be awesome.
Great topic! Never left vinyl, and received countless cast-off albums from others abandoning their records over the years. Always interested in some of the more obscure artists that have not been released in digital formats, or they languished for years before they appeared on CD (or any other format). Then there's the sound quality. The techniques and gear used for mastering gramophone records represent a very refined and mature set of tools and methods, which must be employed by experienced engineers who are able to exercise an amount of good taste. Recordings on vinyl are hard to beat provided they are (were) well made and recorded properly, and played back with a reasonably set-up turntable, tone-arm, cart and phono preamp. We have modern high resolution digital files to thank in part for the reappearance of really good vinyl pressings, since the vinyl record industry has the competition in the form of the highest performance digital formats breathing down their necks at all times. The dirty little secret is that the golden age of vinyl is today, of all things, since nearly everyone involved in making vinyl records are taking great care at each step of the production process. Finally, there's the chance for a listener to make modest changes to his or her analog playback system that will produce pleasing improvements or alterations in the presentation of the sound's character and personality, thereby altering the listening experience. It does not have to be the same old flavor that overlays all the recordings in your collection. Plus, there's more room for (sometimes) iconic album cover artwork...
I came back to vinyl because it slows me down. The process relaxes me. It reminds me of the times back in the 60’s and 70s. For me, a much nicer time. Listening to my vinyl records makes me happy! It puts a smile on my face.
For me, I've always been fascinated by music. When I turned 30 I realized I was very very bored with music for awhile. Then I decided to learn about the format and I got really interested. Now I'm back to enjoying music again and I get immense excitement putting on a new record I've never heard and enjoying it
Now that cds are cheap I buy them from the thrift shop for 50 cents. They were $30 each back in the 90s when I was into them. I think cds are the best media they sound good and to me are still nostalgic and kinda like a record but smaller and better quality sound & more convenient still with all the album art etc. Also mini disc is an interesting media to collect.
I agree wholeheartedly! The people who bash cd’s are ignorant and just “parroting” what others say. You can like records without saying other formats are trash-you really can. I grew up in the era of records, so I can truly say I’ve been there and done that. And reel to reel, 8 track, cassette, cd, mp3, etc. Even though I still buy records and play my old ones, if I had to pick one format only, it would be cd. No question. Small, a physical entity you can hold and usually has booklet, sounds great assuming decent mastering and source material, does not require cleaning and maintenance, durable to the extreme, quick and easy access to any track, and.......NO SURFACE NOISE. That last attribute is huge.
Boy did we ever git stung paying 20 1990s dollars for c.d.'s..some day we will git our revenge when we see our S.T.P. and G.G. Allen C.D.'s rolling off e-bay for a150 bucks...lol'.
@@Matowix yep...his best stuff was with the Jabbers on black and blue label cd..that was my first cd I ever bought and I didnt even have a cd player yet in 1989.
I have no regrets paying $20-30 for some CDs acquired. They all contain music from the 1910s-1930s, CDs are out of production and never to be reproduced ever again on any physical medium. Won't find the recordings even on YT or streaming. Buying the individual songs would need multi-millionaire/billionaire funding capacity to track them all down (usually owned by rich and eccentric private collectors) and buy them.
You nailed the description of playing records Craig. Playing records is truly a ritual. I remember my dad and I pulling out records to play when I was a kid, looking through the album art, cleaning the records, the whole experience is so engaging compared to the "instant access" digital options of today. The whole process of collecting and playing records keeps me engaged to this day. Thanks for another great video, and long live physical media!
I never thought of the record companies bringing it back until you hit on that but it makes perfect sense. Aside from just having grown up with vinyl, one of the biggest reasons I got back into it was the cool factor that digital will and never can have. The gatefolds, the trifolds (Elton John's Yellow Brick Road), the picture discs, shaped picture discs, the coloured wax, the artwork & liner notes you don't need a magnifying glass to read- these 52 year old eyes don't work as well as they did 30, 40 years ago LOL! But when I got my new turntable a week or so ago and for the first time in about 30 years put that Zepplin record on and lowered the stylus...WOW!
For me, I love the ritual, placing vinyl on the mat and the needle drop, then watching it play the music, had a turntable now for a couple of years, was thinking about it, then I watched your detailed setup of the lp120, and that did it for me, love my lp120 and play much more music than I did 2 years ago
The problem you describe ar t the beginning was exactly mine. Until I rediscovered vinyl. Thanks for all ur help. (When ur comment on a video gets more Likes than your own video😰)
11:00 OMG I wish. Can you imagine how much more common vinyl records would be if Sony BMG, Universal Music Group & Warner Music Group were actually pushing it? Vinyl today is either used or it's small independent labels. Vinyl records are still a niche market and is still too small to even be on the radar of BMG, Universal, & Warner.
I decided to get into vinyl records because I wanted a way to support artists I enjoy without having to buy clothes (I have enough in my closet over the years). Not only that, but music is one of the most important things in my life, so why not take the time to really appreciate what the artist creates? The music itself, the artwork, the lyrics, and even the notes. Music becomes more personal when you remove it from it's sleeve, put it on the turntable, grab a seat and enjoy from start to finish. I've become jaded with the introduction of Napster in the 90s, paving the way for bite-sized consumption of music. It was nice for a while but I feel like we lost connection with what the artists were trying to present.
I am with u. I love digital and vinyl , both has it's own great stuff.. sometimes I am not in the mood for the Vinyl hassle..thanks to the CDs and the hi res vinyl rips which sound as analog as the real vinyl when played through a stand alone DAC,. ..to my ears only...
There's a lot of reasons that vinyl has come back for some, while for others (like me) it never went away. For some it's a fashion statement, and some even buy records without listening to them, or even having a turntable. For others it helps them focus on the music by putting on the record and dropping the needle. For some it's the chase for special or rare releases that gives them a kick. And for others again it's the sound. I never stopped listening to records, though I got into cd's as well as most other people. At first cd's was a fascinating format, and after a while it really wasn't possible to get new music on vinyl. Not here in Denmark anyway. But what I realised pretty fast was that I didn't get the kick or the goosebumps from listening to cd's that I got from playing vinyl, and I got tired of listening to the music rather quick. And what was the reason for that? The soundquality should be better, the dynamics on cd's are definitely better, there's no surface noise on cd's etc. Cd should be superior to vinyl in all ways, so how could it be? What I figured out after a while was that cd's aren't superior at all when it comes to the most important part; Sounding natural and alive. Though the engineers claim otherwise the cd format have two major problems. 1: The signal is being pulled to fit the bit ladder, which result in pre-echoes, and even to this day no one has figured out how to make a filter technique that takes care of that problem in a proper way. Notice that nothing sounds more fake than pre-echoes. 2: Another problem with the cd format is the removal of everything above 22 khz. I know this is a topic for much debate, but I believe the reason for that boils down to individual hearing. According to several sources a lot of people's hearing rolls off at about 14 khz, while others can hear frequencies as high as 28 khz. Personally I had my hearing checked recently, and I can hear up to 23 khz (and it's not bs). Vinyl reproduces frequencies way beyond 22 khz - Infact as high as 35 khz or higher. Some claim these frequencies comes from tape saturation, but the fact is that when you reduce the speed by half you will hear these frequencies as a natural extension of the sounds below 22 khz, and it's also worth noticing that several accustic instruments makes frequencies up to 45 khz. I believe the lack of these frequencies, and the intermodulation between frequencies beyond and below 22 khz is the reason cd's sound fake and dead, while vinyl sounds more natural, though vinyl isn't perfect by far. To back that up, I find it important to mention that digital recordings with higher bit rate and sample frequency, where frequencies above 22 khz hasn't been cut off, doesn't sound fake. I actually think it sounds great, but what's missing is a selection of music that matches what you can get on vinyl. To me the sound is the reason that I kept my records and turntables, and the come back of vinyl just means that it's possible to get new music on vinyl again, which is awesome, except a lot of crap is being put on the marked. As you mention there's not that many pressing plants left, and too many of them pump out really bad quality vinyl to keep up with demands. And the reason that they do that is because they only get 2% of the complaints they know that should be getting, because for some weird reason too many people don't complain when they get a crappy record. Perhaps there are more of those who buys records as a fashion statement, than we think. To record companies it's big business if they can get away with it. The only way to get them to deliver the quality we pay for is to complain. Actually it would be cool if you brought that up in your next video. Infact it would be awesome if you did some more record reviews like you did on the different Rush releases. It would be cool if it grew to a size where record companies thought twice before releasing crap to avoid ending up on "Craigs list". I don't know if the come back of vinyl is due to some conspiracy, or manipulation by the record companies. It doesn't seem very likely. But on the other hand the 180 gram scam could point in that direction. Just a shame that besides the consumers, the environment get's f..... over by the extra amount of plastic (which doesn't improve the sound, and often leads to more surface noise). You're right, and at the same time wrong about what you say about music being made today. You're right that most of it sucks, but quality music is still being made though it isn't given many chances by the record companies, or people in general. But you're wrong to say it like crappy music wasn't made in the past as well, because it sure was, and you can find all the crap at thrift stores by the ton. There you can see all the awful crap that never should have been released. You know that it will never be sold, and you know where it will end up. Therefore crappy music of today should only be allowed to be sold as download, because it's a fact that it will end up the same way. Justin Bieber, Rihannah, and loads of similar junk isn't just a crime against mankind - It's a crime against the environment when released on a physical format. Only allowing quality being released will also take some of the pressure of the pressing plants, so they get the time to make decent quality vinyl. Thanks for making yet another great video. Stay awesome mate.
I love vinyl AND digital and the freedom to change format every now and then. You can't find a multi channel surround sound mix on vinyl. You can rarely listen to vinyls at a regular day to day work. But vinyl is still more exciting because the producers have to use a slightly different mastering technique plus it just sounds different, analog, more "alive" etc...
YES! Vinyl does sound more "textural". The "direct-to-disc" records sound better than the CDs I have. Recording directly to the "master" with no tape in between adds true realism to the sound.
22 seconds in. Speaking for myself? Nostalgia. Pure and simple. The tactile feel of the whole ritual: The album art and inner liners, the putting an actual record on a turntable and lowering the stylus. The flipping the album. The careful handling. And most of all, the sound. All the stupid chucklehead arguments that "analog" vinyl is cleaner than digital...pfft, stupid...But I like the sound of vinyl. I like the coloration the analog medium makes. I also like cassette, reel and even 8 track for the same reasons. Just the nostalgia and the enjoyment. Bringing music back to what it once was.
I think transferring some of my clean vinyl to my analog Reel to Real stereo deck would be a fun project. Its a very nice Akai vintage tape deck from Japan, I bet the recordings would probably sound awesome at fastest record speed. 😎👍
I never really got "out of" vinyl. I'm sure I listened to it less as time went on in my life (I'm 54) and cassettes became big, then cd's. I never really got into "streaming" music per se. I did get an mp3 player and it still works and I still use it, just not what most people use it for (It's a Microsoft 30gb Zune) I downloaded old radio shows from the 30's-50's and period music and connected the player to an AM radio transmitter so I could "broadcast" the shows and music to the old tube radios I've restored like my 1933 Philco 18 Highboy and my 1939 RCA K-80 console. CD's I usually listen to in my truck because they handle bumpy roads a lot better than an album would, lol. I have a very few cassettes still I listen to occasionally and so that leaves the majority of my collection on vinyl and shellac. I've almost always had a record player of one type or another around the house whether it was a 1917 Brunswick console or a 1968 BSR MA65, AT or PLX500 or whatever. In the lean years I'd save my record listening for Sunday afternoons to listen while I cleaned house (Sunday mornings being filled with Blues from a local radio station) and would sing along while I worked. Portable players have never really been on my radar. When I'm outdoors I want to hear the outdoors. I live in a rural area so the sounds outside are pleasant. The resurgence in records to me just meant that I could finally get titles I hadn't been able to before, or replace worn albums or albums I've lost over the years from moving, loaning to friends, etc. and I'll be happy to ride this current wave until it eventually dies down again.
I'm 55 and have always had a record player set up and ready to go, even though I don't often use it. My record collection is relatively small but very precious to me.
As a musician, vinyl was always cool to me. After piling over 5 TB of mp3 music i finally i bought a turntable and started buying and collecting vinyl records ( and original CDs as well ) just because i can finally afford them. I have at least 500 album titles on my "to buy" list now...let alone the unexpected pleasant surprises that music always has to offer.
Your first answer is also the reason for me to start playing records again: getting bored of digital music. Having a physical record in my hand, enjoying the artwork, getting emotionally triggered when looking at a cover, going to a record store and digging with my hands through all the records. And the best part, putting on a record and actually listen without a “Next” button at fingertip. I’m at the beginning of rebuilding my record collection again and I so excited about this. Thanks for sharing your thoughts in your video. Lot’s of greetings, Dennis 🇳🇱
Vinyl came back to people who never experienced it prior to the resurgence they were sold a bill of goods that magically by its own nature it sounded better- somewhere between subjective but more likely a total lie. So young persons buy shitty devices like those box TTs and this is a laugh one of our local libraries is buying vinyl records AND loaning out those shiity TTs to ruin them on. Might as well light (tax payer funded) 20 dollar bills on fire in the parking lot. It's almost funny, it seems to have become fashion thing. Even purveyors of good gear like audio-engine and U-Turn audio pimp photos pf their respective TTs and powered speakers SITTING ON THE SAME SURFACE, which if you fancy yourself as sound conscious should freak you on principle alone and that moving your speakers toed in 1" or 1 foot apart or putting a rug or curtains in an an otherwise echo-ey room.
My first experience with a record was when i bought my first setup and listened over it via headphone - a heavy Pionier Monitor 10 I lay down on the sofa and listened to Dark Side of the Moon from Pink Floyd. It just blew me away. Not only the music but also the sound quality just wowed me completly. Ive heard excerpt of it via a old radio before,but hey, i never expected THIS. Needless to say over the years i became a "vinyljunkie" and in a opportune time,around the mid eighties,when the CD really became mass compatible thanks to lower prices for players. At that time,at least in my neck of the woods,many early adopters just binned their whole records collections for minimal prices to the next 2nd hand shop. It was a true bonanza for a short period but of course buisness quickly discovered a possible profit stream prices began to rise sharply. However,also the big supermarket chains and even the bigger record stores emptied their storehouses of "the old stuff" on bargain bins.. It kept me busy for a couple years........ Anyway,although this period of my life - music and lots of mary jane with friends- is long over,i never abandoned my records. Admittedly i sold parts of it off - if i was broke. So over time my pile shrunk from a couple thousand to around one thousand. And CD`s,well i also never had any problems with them. Like records they can sound very good and absolutly satisfying. So today i probably have more CDs than records,but for me it was always the music,not the media format anyway,despite always had and always will have a good record player - at least one - at my disposal.
I think the statement that "vinyl is back" is misleading and really not true. Yeah, records are more popular today than they were 25 years ago, buy they are WAY less popular than they were 50 years ago. They say in 2019 around 5% of money spent to buy music was spent on vinyl records. How much do you think was spent on records in 1970... 85%? Now, it is true that dollars spent on CDs has tanked down to about the same as records today. Vinyl isn't back nearly as much as CDs are going away. But a record costs 2-3 times what a CD costs nowadays, so if you count quantity instead of revenue, CDs still sell double or triple what records do, even going away as much as they are. Downloads and streaming pull in way more dollars than physical formats nowadays. To me, the real criteria for whether vinyl is back is how many people are playing it. I'd say for most of us, unless your social circle is made of audiophiles, 5-10% of the people we know around us are playing records. In 1975, that number would have been what, 70% or more? When most of us can say that at least half of people we know who enjoy music are playing records, then vinyl will be back. But we're nowhere near there. Vinyl is not back and probably never will be.
Vinyl is bigger now than ever, and it's growth matches the growth in Tubes. Statisticians say CDs are the best medium (I have plenty), but my ears feel like they are constantly being attacked, and it turns me off. Vinyl purposely rounds of the edges to give you a smoother sound. Tubes take it one step further by making it mellow. Those are the reason there is such a growth in vinyl.
When my dad passed away at 89yo back in '14, I was the only one who in my family who made the effort to make sure his LP collection stayed in the family. Classic music from the 40's 50's & 60's that I love even though I'm an unapologetic, GenX, Classic rocker/Metal head. I took home the cheap turntable that I got for him at a guitar center 20 years ago when his '82 Technics died. I wanted something newer. I grabbed a new AT LP120, (your turntable setup video was extremely helpful btw), and then set out to garage sales, thrift stores, and used record stores in an attempt to restock all the albums I had as a teen, (which I kept in pristine condition) but sold when I became a CD junkie.
I actually cried when I bought Master of Puppets on vinyl recently and heard Cliff Burton playing by himself on Orion. that never happened to me the billion times I listened to it on cd or streaming. when I heard Cliff on that record, I have a zillion times, but just the fact that the physical vibrations that were pressed into that album....made me feel closer to that recording. it's hard to explain, it was a deeply moving thing. I felt closer to it. it wasn't just me listening to music. it was an event.
Two years ago I made the momentous decision to sell my 50 years, 3,000 LP collection thinking (rather, NOT thinking) that i didn’t want to have inconvenience of hauling them when I moved and, besides, I have 33 days of music on my iPod! I kept back only a hundred or so cherry picked albums. Not a day goes by that I don’t regret it! If i had known how much I would miss simply having them I would never have sold them. Never! It’s hard these days going into a record shop these days and seeing the albums i purchased when they first came out selling for $30-$100! It really hurts. Your video gives me some hope. I will endeavour henceforth to rebuild my collection one by one (used only though...). Thanks for the vid!
I don't "think" it sounds better. I KNOW it does, cuz I've been listening to transients in mixes god knows since when and maaan I'm telling ya, the vividness and uncompressingness of those tricky bastards are nowhere near as good on other fortmats but vinyl. But I can speak for sure only for 60-85 years period. and only for certain genres I'm familiar with (basically golden ballads like Julio Iglesias, Mireille Mathieu, Dalida, Streisand, Donna Summer, ABBA). It was an eye opener for me first when I heard direct youtube recording of vinyl. Of the song I knew by heart bar to bar. And I heard things I've never heard before. I bought a turntable (high grade one) a month later and my life's never been the same since. I think the secret is mastering engineers, leaving vinyl masters out of overcompressing whilst squeezing the heck out of digital version, but alas, that's what they do with digital since it came along
Brings back childhood memories. Plus like you said its the physical aspect and sound that you just don’t get with digital music. Its a lost art form now resurrected. I’m on my second turntable. I have a lp120 and a rt83 both are great.
I sell vinyl to people who sold their vinyls in the 80's/90's.I point out to them they are not that keen on it or they would not have sold it in the first place. They usually buy the cock rock stuff- Zeppelin, Rush, Sabbath....usual noise pollution, Depressing.
I've been really getting into early 40's 50's music and just hearing music that wasn't designed to sell millions in the first week or meet whatever metric. Yoi can hear how genuine the music was when it used to be about entertaining you and not selling ads or ad space.
Why has Vinyl come back? Perhaps it is because digital sounds dry and lifeless. Perhaps it is because of our need for community? Perhaps because records and turntables are so cool looking and people desire a tactile physical experience with their music? With analogue recordings of every kind we get all of the sound both good and the less desirable aspects. Perhaps when we listen to so called perfect recordings our brain understands that we are listening to sounds that are not quite real? Digital, to our minds, may look like Swiss Cheese. Perhaps the unconscious mind makes note of the absences and cannot get past these absences? It then nags the conscious mind. That said I do like the taste of Swiss Cheese. Now I'm hoping for the Reel to Reel Recorder/Players to come back. Then I can pretend it is 1978 once again. 1978, for me, was a very good year.
It’s tactile….you feel the records…you are more a part of the experience and you can see it on the shelf when you are not listening. You physically collect them. Yeah, records sound pretty great with the right setup, but I think people missed the physical experience that digital doesn’t provide. I can honestly say that this is one of the main reasons I came back.
It’s ritualistic, from the searching , to the maintenance, to the physical action of putting the record on. Also the appreciation of the artwork. It’s fun! If it wasn’t fun we wouldn’t spend so much money lol
Hello and thanks for your great channel. I think we are fortunate that the media itself has a shelf life or we wouldn’t be having this conversation. That we are able to still play our records that are 50 to 60 years old, probably out live us. I grew up with both sources and appreciate there strengths but there is nothing better than putting on a record of your favourite band ignoring the odd pop or crack holding that album and singing to the lyrics. I think also by all this extra set up, it made us better listeners. Take care from Montreal
DVD and Blu-Ray sales are plummeting, vinyl sales are up and people are buying TV antennas again. If you would've told me twenty years ago that this is where we were headed I would've said you were nuts.
I think it started out as a trendy thing and then moved into the nostalgia phase. Being a little older it's nice and fun. And maybe as everything is digital it could be a money making thing on the part of record labels. I think it's just a combo of all those things. Plus, the larger covers and cover art are just cooler.
Why vinyl sound realistic & more iinvolvingwhen a stereo record cut/made the cutter is single device cutting left and right channel information simultaneously.When we play record the same groove reads by stylus and immediately signal fed to speaker through amplifier. Very less chance remains to occur any phase shift. Because both channel signal reaching to our ears with very very less phase shift and we get true to recording(faithful) reproduction.
Vinyl never ended for me. I always preferred its sonic characteristics over digital. I don't use the term sound quality because it means different things to different people. To many, the absence of noise and ticks and pops equals better sound quality. I fully understand why some people do not like digital. In my opinion digital is like diet Soda, something essential has been removed and it's just doesn't taste the same.
Vinyl never left it was the big record companies that was trying to kill it just like their trying to kill CD's. In my opinion f the record companies stop the loudness wars and give the consumers the choice of CD or vinyl everybody wins in the long run
Reason for vinyl resurgence: UA-camrs and Facebook users showing off their collections and latest finds helped out enormously. 2007 was the year of uptick which corresponded with the dates of those two sites really taking off.
53 is not over the hill Craig. Its great age and we grew up in the best times!! Vinyl is an experience that is therapeutic! Thanks for the great videos! Keep them coming!
I play both LPs and digital and collect both and have done since the 70s. I just buy what I fancy at the time and have always done so, thus for me vinyl never went away. I will say that I lovely the tangible quality of the LP, it's artwork and the sound of analogue. I also think that my collection is a kind of life history or memoire and very often LPs are associated with events and emotions, consequently they have far more personal meaning than CDS. However, vinyl is very very expensive especially if you want to get excellent sound out of the medium. I have what may be considered a mid-high end system to which I recently added (an upgraded) a CD transport at £1000. To achieve the same level of superb fidelity on vinyl will cost approx 3-4 times this for a turntable, phono preamplifier, cartridge, stylus, maintenance, accessories etc. I know as I have tested and costed this out- should I be tempted to upgrade my TT setup. Add to this the cost of vinyl vs CD and the fact that it deteriorates every time it gets played and I sometimes feel that I must be losing the plot. Whilst every fibre of logical mind and ears screams 'forget vinyl, digital is now far better and cheaper' I still buy vinyl !!!!! I'm even happier that so many new titles are being pressed on vinyl and that there are more and more opportunities to go crate digging for old LPs. I can only think that my personal 'vinyl revival' must be something to do with a serious chemical imbalance in my brain and I just can't stop myself :) :) :) ;)
I think the nostalgia of a record player and seeing them in a few tv shows and movies might have helped bring it back. I love putting on a record and do some cleaning or unwinding for the legenth of a record. It’s definitely an experience and most of the time I get lost in the music.
Digital made music so accessible that hardly anybody cares anymore..not with vinyl records,sound is more alive and easier on ear for 2 or more hours of listening,its something i cant do with digital,its just a tiring listen.
Great discussion. My fam stayed in a historic refurbished lodge this summer. They had an old turntable in the room with some vinyl albums lying around. That was the first time in over 25 years I have dropped a needle on a record and it was fun to introduce the medium to my 2 teenage daughters. Upon returning home, I immediately bought a turntable, had my sister and brother in-law send me my old albums I had left behind and hadn't listened to since leaving for college. The nostalgia of listening to those records for the first time since I was a teenager was pure magic. The artwork, the liners, the crackling and pops, the feeling of physically handling the album, the nostalgia, listening to the music the way the artists originally intended.. I'm hooked.
I ditched all my Vinyl and Deck in 2008. In 2018 I was in a charity shop and saw some virtually brand new classical music albums at £1 each. I bought 10. I have just bought a Thoren TD160 and SME series 3 arm. Absolutely tremendous! What a awesome sound!
Digital is the peak of convenience. Vinyl is the peak of the experience.
Very well said...👍🏾
@@NawMan357 That was VERY on point!
This should be top comment
@@utub1473 Exactly!
Well said
Records never left, people came back .
Amen
well said. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Hear Hear!
best answer
Nailed it
A lot of us Boomers grew up listening to our parents playing records. A strong motivation for many of us.
There' s nothing comparible to the joy while digging boxes in a record shop and finally you found a tune you've been searching for long time, I don't want to miss this haptic feeling
I was lucky and decided to keep my records, from back in the day. I have about 25,000 of the little dears. I also had about 25,000 CD's. A couple of years ago, I was moving and it was time to downsize. So far, I've sold about 14,000 CD's and didn't really blink. I just didn't have an emotional attachment to them. I couldn't sell a single record. In fact, since the move, I've probably purchased and been given about 3,000 albums. I believe that there's a confluence of reasons. The inherent awkwardness of vinyl and playing it makes us pay attention. CD's just slide into a little box and you don't see them again for 60-70 minutes. Your concentration just isn't there. Your mind wanders and you stop absorbing and enjoying the music. Even worse with streaming. It never stops and you never see it. With a record, you have to change it every 25 minutes. You watch it spin around. You hold that big cover. It makes you pay attention. Whether vinyl sounds better or not - the way you listen to it is better. That to me, is the main difference.
So true. I have said that listening to vinyl is more of a commitment (of time and attention, equipment). It is indeed different from digital.
Wow. I cannot even imagine that many. Most we ever accumulated is around 300-400.
@@markmarkofkane8167 Collecting all those records has not been the most sensible thing I've ever done, but it has certainly been one of the most enjoyable.
I totally agree. It really gives you a true experience. That's why I love vinyl. And cassettes too for that matter. People have the audacity to call records "hipster bullshit," I absolutely hate it when people say stuff like that. It enrages me. People who say that obviously don't get it. People have the right to listen to music on whatever format they like. Music is about the experience and having fun. No one has any right to talk bad about someone's hobby if they enjoy it. Just because it's not as convenient as streaming doesn't mean it's bad.
Excellent observation. 😀👍
I am 34 and I bought my first record when I was 18 , when it wasn t trending. My dad said it was a waste of time as vinyl never would come back. I love Cds but there is something funny about playing a record. It is a way of saying to this digital world hey I have something real here. Oh, and the sleeves, they are gorgeous
I think the current 'Hipster movement' re-popularized vinyl as a cool and unique thing to do. Pretty soon it was all over social media... Then us old-timers took notice of the increased talk and availability of vinyl and vinyl related products and were consequently drawn into our own nostalgia.
Vinyl provides us an emotional connection to who we once were... I can remember my first girlfriend in technicolor when I listen to Genesis. I can once again feel the butterflies in my stomach when I was around her. I can smell her perfume and feel the warm summer breeze all around me. Yes, vinyl brings back a profound sense of 'being there' simply by dropping the needle... Now that's power.
Good video as usual Craig, thank you.
OOOOhh..Randy..so close to the mark I'll call it a Bullseye..and just as it came back I see it gone allready..and once again the old farts are stuck with there vinyl..yes Im older than you two guys and saw the trend and dumped in 2014 and made a killing and now am free of the dead weight of it all and just because I saved about 100 78's for myself, value wise worthless just like your tons of vinyl is and will be going into the future...tech fads are what they are, a "BLIPVERT" in time..whats Hot now, Cassette Players for about a new york minute..I have mine and you can blue tooth them..am I gonna collect more? hell no look at the price there bringing on e-bay! that fad hasnt peeked yet...but will , so rush off and buy high for that Holy Grail Sony TC-D5M..AND NOTE! how all them silly players are marked VINTAGE-RARE..and dust off your RUN D.M.C. TAPE "RAISING HELL" and start makeing money on the new fad before it's too late.
Same as film,analog music provides different expirience.
@@allenschmitz9644As far as know the hipster movement only exists in the U.S. but the vinyl movement is worldwide. I think rebirth It started in japan. Hipsters are apart of it but I don't think they started it.
@@arnoldlee2063 “hipsters” (essentially young people who liked underground music) “started” it in the late 90’s/early 2000s. As vinyl became unpopular underground bands began releasing stuff on vinyl (usually 7”) because it was incredibly cheap. Also a lot of older obscure stuff wasn’t available on CD either.
As “hipster” essentially became how young people all over the world started to dress/act and turned into the mainstream (like every youth subculture ultimately does), vinyl became mainstream too, just how tapered jeans were lame in the 90s but are very very basic now.
Japan has always been into vintage stuff and Americana though so I doubt they ever stopped listening to records and wearing cool clothes 🤣, that’s where all the old blue note pressings and quality Levi’s are now.
I just started getting into vinyl a couple months ago. I picked up a Denon turntable at Best Buy one day. Got a couple records from target. Besides the sound there’s just something about deliberately putting on a record that makes you really listen to the music. With my iPod and streaming for the last 2 decades. You play music and you kinda forget the music is playing. When you buy something physical. You just appreciate it more.
I do believe that cd sound is pleasant once paired with a quality dac. But listening to a record is like drinking pure water. I always listen to 3 complete records in a session as it is so mellow.
Still have my records from the late 60s onwards, never got rid of them. Bought a turntable last week, first time I've played a record in 20 years. Loving it, records are very special.
Dig in guy!
Still have my 1960s studio turntable :-) ua-cam.com/video/I3aV7znfHqw/v-deo.html&lc=z22gdh04ew2ufnzmbacdp430shmkdfbygkhf4tznuvtw03c010c
Mick Hyde
Agree! I get a big smile on my face when I play a record
Cds are boring
I’ll take the ticks and pops
I still have all my records from the seventees on and i play vinyl brcause....
1. Some records sound better then their cd equivalent
2. I like collecting music on vinyl
3. Nostalgia for sure
4. Much more intense listening experience
5. I can now afford hifi equipment I couldn't when I was young
6. I also bought a high end cassettedeck and am copying vinyl onto tape - again. Lo ve it!
Got back in cassette again too. Amazing results with good tape and a good deck. I'm enjoying cassettes now again just as vinyl. The turntable has the magic spinning and the cassette the amazing spinning of the hubs to watch. A vinyl recording on a good tape, which sounds as good as the vinyl. How more more analogue do you want it :)
@@petervanvalderen9136 Just keep a pencil by the cassete deck....you never know when you'll need it 😁
I agree TOTALLY! I have 'vinyl' dating back to 1959, including several MONO records. I love vinyl so much MORE having played around with "under sampled- over corrected" CDs for the past 30yrs. I haven't purchased a CD in about 20 yrs and don't plan to in the next 20.
Great seeing you again. To me it's the ritual, the sleeves the hunt for old but clean records, a way to enjoy my amp+speakers, watching youtube vinyl tv etc. etc. ;-)
Definately !! Hunting down clean vinyl, covers etc !
For me it’s simply the sound. It’s so much more lively and present, it’s the shortest path from the music vibration back in the studio to your ears. And besides, if you take good care, records last forever.
To put it simply...............CD is listening to a DESCRIPTION of the music, while Vinyl is a PHOTOGRAPH of the music. Which would you prefer?
You'd need way more than a thousand dollar phono cartridge to even come near the best cd players under $2,000 for sound quality. You wouldn't judge the quality of lps using a $35 cartridge. Why would you judge the quality of cds using $300 players? Some of them are real good at around $1,700. You'd be hard pressed to match it's sound quality with analog. I am an analog buff too; and I do know what I'm saying. The sound of cds can be as analog sounding as analog. Believe it or not. I believe it now. I now know. It lacks nothing at all in any way. Except the aggravation of finding just the right pressing and condition. Cds are usually real good pressings. Lps are usually NOT that good a pressing.
@@TheOzthewiz i prefer music as it was recorded not a bad sample like 30% of the music as in cd´s . Digital, which is a form of recording music by using not analog support as i prefer because even when listening to a cd ,the sound is analogue or you would only listen to noise ,like a game charging on a 48k spectrum from sinclair, so if music all is analogue why use a convertion to a convertion than to recording a convertion to other conversion, but not all want or need to hear all the music but a part of it is enough kind of a bad sample and they used to say there were bad cassette decks when all the world hears music worst than a recording made in the worst recording cassette deck , i used to record electronic music and all the system was electronic only when recording it in my home studio i converted the signal to analogue and then cassette or cd ,i did this for 35 years only in the 90´s i bought a roland groove box with a sampler and a midi keyboard and stoped in 2005, i started with a church organ that had rythm keyboard and playable sounds that resemble real instruments in a electronic way ,then a Moog and a melotron and a yamaha electronic piano and all analogue instruments you can imagine, also a collection of microphones and amplifiers with(or , and) speakers
@@sidesup8286 it´s true allthough i didn´t pay but in mid 90´s i bought a belt driven cd player from CEC ,i searched recentelly for it and it´s still being sold by 36.000€ and that doesn´t improve the bad quality of the cd an absolete format from the 70´s , the record if you have a turntable made before 79 when they were all good even the cheapest. Today your numbers are right , but if one doesn´t like guitars or voice or drums which are impossible to put into cd with a faithfull sound, while regular vinil or records are faithfull to the sound recorded in studios because not a wall covered with digital to analog converters can translate what is heard in analogue and cds since early 90´s are badly built the pressing is named burning ,the main problem is the bad quality of then new material (1990)at the time to be burned
I got my first turntable (old unit from '85) this week and today I finally played a couple of records for the very first time. It was SUCH an experience that I actually shed a lot of tears of joy.
It's exactly what is being said in this video: music is an experience and that's why people are going back to vinyls. Digital music doesn't engage me as much anymore. It's handy, of course, but the whole ritual of putting a record on the plate, positioning the tonearm and actually enjoying music rather than making it feel just like a background noise... well, it's priceless :')
My logo say it, I still got my first bought record, 56 years ago
Hello from norway ! I like your way of thinking
The inconvenience of what you go through to play a record is exactly why I think it came back. It forces you to be part of the experience. And just like you, I think cds sound amazing too and I won’t be getting rid of them anytime soon but vinyl records, it’s nostalgic for some, you won’t get bored (like clicking a button to download music), and it’s just good fun!
The one thing I will say about CDs and why I could care less about them is my house was burgled back in '91. When I got the call from the cops at work and arrived home, EVERYTING I owned was gone...all my CD's...many of which were personaly autographed as I worked in a record store at the time. In those CD jewel cases I would keep the concert ticket stubs- GONE...irreplaceable items, just wiped out. ALL the vinyl I've had and kept since I was a pre-teen- every single album was still there...because it's a lot easier to throw a bunch of CD's in a pillow case and haul 'em off than it is 12 inch LP's. 🤘🏻
Love your channel. I'm 20 from England and I started collecting vinyl a few months ago, got myself an lp120 turntable. Yeah I agree with what you say, digital sounds excellent but you lose that charm and the enjoyment that comes with listening to a record. Keep up the videos, you seem like a cool guy, and I love Rush too!
With records it's very much a ritual. You have to be careful every step of the way. I enjoy both records and CDs but hate streaming. I've been informed that the bit rates are getting better for streaming but give me a lump of black vinyl any day.
@Virality TV Record collection literally grows on a daily basis. But at the moment the CD collection is expanding rapidly too. CDs are so cheap at the moment. Recently picked up 10 mint Peter gabriel CDs for £10. A pound a pop well it would be rude not to.
@Virality TV Ebay that included p&p too. Pick up a similar amount of Genesis CDs up from Shpock for £20. Like I said with a bit of patience there are some excellent deals out there. God bless Spotify.
Virality TV
So much fun collecting vinyl
What we took for granted in the 60s and 70s we now respect and cherish
How lucky to have grown up in those times
digital music killed it for me. Miss the times when i went to a record store and listening through headphones for a few songs before buing an album.
Yes, me too! Or buying an album by a band you liked and being really disappointed but you put up anyway because dammit you paid good money 😂
I agree. I enjoy listening to music at music stores before purchasing. It's fun.
Buying (spelt ) 🤣
As I get older (62), I enjoy things that remind me of my youth and what a great time it was to grow up in the 70’s. That’s why I got back into vinyl.
Hammer
Me too, I’m 60
im jealous! i wanted t live earlyer so i couldve been to a concert from The Doors.
That i can agree with u on this subject. I've been collecting 45's & albums since my teenager years (12). Listening to the tunes of my youth perticuallary mid 60's up thru the early 90"s brings back memories to me.
Robin Alexander Same here! Class of “77”
I find it akin to going out for a trail walk, versus watch a hi def video of a trail walk. One is a real active experience, the other is much more passive. Maybe this is a bad analogy, but it’s close.
I think the record companies were as shocked as you were. I think people just see vinyl as the only format worth owning. Ask my kids. You can stream anything, but to own your favorite artists’s piece of physical music is a special thing. In my opinion, with the right equipment, vinyl will always sound better than any other format.
Love your videos man . Hope you keep making them.
Thats the SAME reasons i bought myself again a turntable, and enjoy the rituals and the music again.
Am i getting old??
I’m buying vinyl again because I grew up listening to it. Back then it was like a ritual listening to an album and the warm sound the analog sound reproduced. Over the years listening to digital music I realized that something in the sound was not the same (That Warm sound I used to hear back in the 70’s/80’s with vinyl and cassette tape).
Another great video! To me it’s the ritual, the cover arts, and not to forget, when you Play a record, you play it without skipping songs. When you stream music it is to easy to skip tracks, and I think Steaming do not give you the same calmness when you playing music. You’re already looking for the next track when you stream music. So for me it is a way to relax and better enjoy the listening.
Some tracks deserve being skipped. 😎
You said it :
It's a beautiful object, and a full listening experience in itself that involves picking the record, cleaning it up, looking at the insert, dropping the needle and waiting for the first sound to come out after the "craack" and "pop".
I hope music collectors would have the same appreciation for CD's as they do for LP's someday.
The engineers of 1950-1980's compared to the ones that are clueless today......there's really no comparison. Perhaps the loudness monster they've created have altered their brains into thinking loudness & compression is good & normal.
CD's won't last nearly as long as Vinyl because of disc rot/deterioration.
@@Kit_Bear My first CD from 1984 hasn't rotted yet. LOL. What's going to rot?
@@philip6502 The reflective surface layer isn't going to last forever, Or at least last longer than a record.
@@philip6502 CD Rot is a "real thing", believe it or not... There is CD Rot and also the issues of layer separation if there was any inconsistency in the manufacturing process, and the layers begin separating. After reading about this phenomenon, I went through my entire CD Collection, which is probably around 300 CD's and most of them over 25 years old, stored in meticulously good conditions, and I have took notice to about 4 of them which have begun "layer separation". Having tested them, one of them begins skipping in one of my CD players at points where it has difficulty reading the material.
I'm also 53 and i never stopped listening to vinyl.I am glad that the younger generation is into it.
Awesome!!
I'm a little older than you but ditto. I still have two record players I bought back in 1978. Technic SL-1200 MK2 although I got rid of my mixer from back then a long time ago. (A Radio Shack mixer.) I even still have some records I bought back in the 1960s.
Me too! I started listening to vinyl, 8 track, FM Radio, then cassette tapes. I returned listening to vinyl records, did not really stop, and I believe it my preferred playback of listening to music.
I'm 37 i still have vinyls from the 80's. Then the 90's were all about CD's but i started collecting vynil again in 2003 and it was already getting popular enough to find new most releases including from indie labels. So all in all there's only been 15 years without it.
I'm about your age and NEVER gave up my turntable/s even though I did purchase and collect CDs since the mid-1980s. I STILL wanted that format around. I also use cassettes although I prefer to use blanks don't have many unused blanks left! With that said, If I ever was to get another tape deck, I'd probably get a high-end Sony or Harman-Kardan (sp?) or something similar.
Cool, I'm 63 and had my first Technic direct turntable in 1975-76 and got many vinyls from Tower Records! Hear them through my Klipsch Hersey then. Now, I just got a new Audio -Technica and playing them through my Klipschorn I got back in the early 90"s, Heavenly sound!! Keep up with the good work Vinyl TV!
For the first time in three decades, I have the space and the freedom to enjoy LP's again......
And I'm loving it...!!!
Hope you're having as much fun as I am..!!
For me vinyl never went away, I have literally a handful of CDs but about 300 albums. As you say listening to vinyl has to be a hands on experience but having to get off your backside and turn the disc over etc breaks up the listening moment and provides added interest.
record companys still dont get it .. they think we want the medium vinyl in it self .. they don´t get that we want all analog sound from vinyl ... thats why we get soo much crap theese days
And the big sleeves...
@@deckofcards87 What do you mean by the big sleeves?
@@SDsailor7 the 12" sleeves that an LP comes in... More room for art, posters, etc
true
I agree. They need to do pure, tube powered analog. That's the best. A digitally produced vinyl record just doesn't and can't have the same warmth.
You said exactly why: digital is boring 😄 and when digital native discovered them they just snowballed 🙂
@NDFOOTBALL I go with whatever rewards me with more pleasure.
@Club Soda exactly 😄
I have been surrounded with vinyl records from my birthday. I remember how we regularly went to the record store to buy something for me and something for the elders. I still have some of those old records with songs for kids and audio plays. My uncle brought records from his friends and also had many of the rock vinyls, some of them being swapped for jeans or bottles of whiskey.
When the age of CD arrived I quickly adopted that format and started collecting CDs (as much as my pocket allowed). But something was missing from that format: the aesthetics! The CDs (especially from the first wave) lacked that special feeling when you hold the record in your hands, feel its smell, weight, texture of the cover. If it is gatefold or has inner covers, inserts, posters, stickers or some other extras, or has special design we could spend days by exploring them. Listening to the music with or without following the lyrics is a unique experience, especially because I still can't conceive how practically the grooves store the music (although I understand the physics).
So, in my case the factors are good memory, aesthetics and magic of the format. Thank you!
I think analog came back because, what's old is new again. It's also an interactive experience, playing a song on MP3 is, what I call, a preset experience. Sometimes it's just good to hear Chuck Berry music in it's natural environment.
As a side thought: for me it's good fun just to walk around in a really good indie record store. Screw the big music store chains.
For me I've used nothing but streaming services for a few years now and before that digital tracks, but I still had all my old CDs and I wanted a proper stereo, a component Hi-Fi. I went down the 70s-80s track with it and so of course a record player needs to be part of that. So here we are. I have a very modest collection of Vinyl, but it's slowly growing. What you say about physically engaging with the music is a big factor, also the concept of listening to an album without an option to skip tracks or change stations is oddly satisfying - you're hearing it how the artist intended - and when you consider Vinyl mastering (which is often quite different from the mastering/mixing for CD) that's particularly true for most 60s, 70s and 80s music. Of course I have a cassette deck too and I dare say the humble cassette is set to come back in a very big way. The SQ is actually very good and it's a reasonably convenient format and most of all - it's analog, which having grown up in a very digital era, really appeals to me
I got back to vinyl, because i wanted to be young again, and listening to my favorite albums from back then, such as The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon, Piano man... and so on, give me the illusion of a brought back youth lol...
and, after all, and a hard life of working an suffering, and loss of many things in my life, i wanted to bring back something with Style into my life! And , not to forget, i want that the musicians ge money for their valuable work!. And, to buy a record means, to me, that i have a piece of music that i own! No one can take my records down from a streaming playlist! It`s mine, till i die! And, not to forget Michael Fremer: Vinyl sounds better than Streaming a mp3 !
I never got out of records
I am new to vinyl and it definitely is an experience, more work but definitely more engaging and fun, plus the sound of vinyl, was not a believer until I actually went through the experience.
I love owning the physical media. Handling it, getting it loaded.. looking at the photos, notes, etc. The large format of LP vinyl is awesome, but the LP is just too fragile. CDs are awesome, but the packaging is too small. CDs done properly sound great. Just as good as LPs. It's the overuse of compression that kills the sound.. the "loudness wars"
I wish music labels would package CDs in the 12" vinyl packaging. That would be awesome.
Great topic! Never left vinyl, and received countless cast-off albums from others abandoning their records over the years. Always interested in some of the more obscure artists that have not been released in digital formats, or they languished for years before they appeared on CD (or any other format). Then there's the sound quality. The techniques and gear used for mastering gramophone records represent a very refined and mature set of tools and methods, which must be employed by experienced engineers who are able to exercise an amount of good taste. Recordings on vinyl are hard to beat provided they are (were) well made and recorded properly, and played back with a reasonably set-up turntable, tone-arm, cart and phono preamp. We have modern high resolution digital files to thank in part for the reappearance of really good vinyl pressings, since the vinyl record industry has the competition in the form of the highest performance digital formats breathing down their necks at all times. The dirty little secret is that the golden age of vinyl is today, of all things, since nearly everyone involved in making vinyl records are taking great care at each step of the production process. Finally, there's the chance for a listener to make modest changes to his or her analog playback system that will produce pleasing improvements or alterations in the presentation of the sound's character and personality, thereby altering the listening experience. It does not have to be the same old flavor that overlays all the recordings in your collection. Plus, there's more room for (sometimes) iconic album cover artwork...
I came back to vinyl because it slows me down. The process relaxes me. It reminds me of the times back in the 60’s and 70s. For me, a much nicer time. Listening to my vinyl records makes me happy! It puts a smile on my face.
Vinyl has better bass than digital.
THANKS mate. I stopt asking myself why I collect Vinyl a long (and €€€€,$$$$) time ago. Just Enjoy them. Vinyl for Life.
For me, I've always been fascinated by music. When I turned 30 I realized I was very very bored with music for awhile. Then I decided to learn about the format and I got really interested. Now I'm back to enjoying music again and I get immense excitement putting on a new record I've never heard and enjoying it
I recommend David Sax's book "The Revenge of Analog". He explains very well what happened on the way of digital utopia.
Thanks for the recommendation! Seems very interesting.
@@Caifo oh, I think it is.. 🙂 I loved that book 🙂 I'm curious to hear your opinion if you'll read it 😀🙂
Now that cds are cheap I buy them from the thrift shop for 50 cents. They were $30 each back in the 90s when I was into them. I think cds are the best media they sound good and to me are still nostalgic and kinda like a record but smaller and better quality sound & more convenient still with all the album art etc. Also mini disc is an interesting media to collect.
I agree wholeheartedly! The people who bash cd’s are ignorant and just “parroting” what others say. You can like records without saying other formats are trash-you really can. I grew up in the era of records, so I can truly say I’ve been there and done that. And reel to reel, 8 track, cassette, cd, mp3, etc. Even though I still buy records and play my old ones, if I had to pick one format only, it would be cd. No question. Small, a physical entity you can hold and usually has booklet, sounds great assuming decent mastering and source material, does not require cleaning and maintenance, durable to the extreme, quick and easy access to any track, and.......NO SURFACE NOISE. That last attribute is huge.
Boy did we ever git stung paying 20 1990s dollars for c.d.'s..some day we will git our revenge when we see our S.T.P. and G.G. Allen C.D.'s rolling off e-bay for a150 bucks...lol'.
@@allenschmitz9644 the gg Allen who throws his poo at the audience ?
@@Matowix yep...his best stuff was with the Jabbers on black and blue label cd..that was my first cd I ever bought and I didnt even have a cd player yet in 1989.
I have no regrets paying $20-30 for some CDs acquired. They all contain music from the 1910s-1930s, CDs are out of production and never to be reproduced ever again on any physical medium. Won't find the recordings even on YT or streaming. Buying the individual songs would need multi-millionaire/billionaire funding capacity to track them all down (usually owned by rich and eccentric private collectors) and buy them.
You nailed the description of playing records Craig. Playing records is truly a ritual. I remember my dad and I pulling out records to play when I was a kid, looking through the album art, cleaning the records, the whole experience is so engaging compared to the "instant access" digital options of today. The whole process of collecting and playing records keeps me engaged to this day. Thanks for another great video, and long live physical media!
I used to hang out at Tower records back in the day and peruse the bins for hours.
I went back to vinyl because of nostalgia, and for some warmth in this cold digital age.
And thanks for mentioning LOST :)
I never thought of the record companies bringing it back until you hit on that but it makes perfect sense. Aside from just having grown up with vinyl, one of the biggest reasons I got back into it was the cool factor that digital will and never can have. The gatefolds, the trifolds (Elton John's Yellow Brick Road), the picture discs, shaped picture discs, the coloured wax, the artwork & liner notes you don't need a magnifying glass to read- these 52 year old eyes don't work as well as they did 30, 40 years ago LOL! But when I got my new turntable a week or so ago and for the first time in about 30 years put that Zepplin record on and lowered the stylus...WOW!
Craig where did you get your record button shirt
Never got rid of my vinyl .
For me, I love the ritual, placing vinyl on the mat and the needle drop, then watching it play the music, had a turntable now for a couple of years, was thinking about it, then I watched your detailed setup of the lp120, and that did it for me, love my lp120 and play much more music than I did 2 years ago
Definitely a nostalgic , emotional thing. Closest thing to a time machine
The problem you describe ar t the beginning was exactly mine. Until I rediscovered vinyl. Thanks for all ur help.
(When ur comment on a video gets more Likes than your own video😰)
11:00 OMG I wish. Can you imagine how much more common vinyl records would be if
Sony BMG, Universal Music Group & Warner Music Group were actually pushing it? Vinyl today is either used or it's small independent labels. Vinyl records are still a niche market and is still too small to even be on the radar of BMG, Universal, & Warner.
I decided to get into vinyl records because I wanted a way to support artists I enjoy without having to buy clothes (I have enough in my closet over the years). Not only that, but music is one of the most important things in my life, so why not take the time to really appreciate what the artist creates? The music itself, the artwork, the lyrics, and even the notes. Music becomes more personal when you remove it from it's sleeve, put it on the turntable, grab a seat and enjoy from start to finish. I've become jaded with the introduction of Napster in the 90s, paving the way for bite-sized consumption of music. It was nice for a while but I feel like we lost connection with what the artists were trying to present.
By the way it wasn't driven by the companies, but by the customers.
I am with u. I love digital and vinyl , both has it's own great stuff.. sometimes I am not in the mood for the Vinyl hassle..thanks to the CDs and the hi res vinyl rips which sound as analog as the real vinyl when played through a stand alone DAC,. ..to my ears only...
There's a lot of reasons that vinyl has come back for some, while for others (like me) it never went away. For some it's a fashion statement, and some even buy records without listening to them, or even having a turntable. For others it helps them focus on the music by putting on the record and dropping the needle. For some it's the chase for special or rare releases that gives them a kick. And for others again it's the sound.
I never stopped listening to records, though I got into cd's as well as most other people. At first cd's was a fascinating format, and after a while it really wasn't possible to get new music on vinyl. Not here in Denmark anyway. But what I realised pretty fast was that I didn't get the kick or the goosebumps from listening to cd's that I got from playing vinyl, and I got tired of listening to the music rather quick. And what was the reason for that? The soundquality should be better, the dynamics on cd's are definitely better, there's no surface noise on cd's etc. Cd should be superior to vinyl in all ways, so how could it be? What I figured out after a while was that cd's aren't superior at all when it comes to the most important part; Sounding natural and alive. Though the engineers claim otherwise the cd format have two major problems. 1: The signal is being pulled to fit the bit ladder, which result in pre-echoes, and even to this day no one has figured out how to make a filter technique that takes care of that problem in a proper way. Notice that nothing sounds more fake than pre-echoes. 2: Another problem with the cd format is the removal of everything above 22 khz. I know this is a topic for much debate, but I believe the reason for that boils down to individual hearing. According to several sources a lot of people's hearing rolls off at about 14 khz, while others can hear frequencies as high as 28 khz. Personally I had my hearing checked recently, and I can hear up to 23 khz (and it's not bs). Vinyl reproduces frequencies way beyond 22 khz - Infact as high as 35 khz or higher. Some claim these frequencies comes from tape saturation, but the fact is that when you reduce the speed by half you will hear these frequencies as a natural extension of the sounds below 22 khz, and it's also worth noticing that several accustic instruments makes frequencies up to 45 khz. I believe the lack of these frequencies, and the intermodulation between frequencies beyond and below 22 khz is the reason cd's sound fake and dead, while vinyl sounds more natural, though vinyl isn't perfect by far. To back that up, I find it important to mention that digital recordings with higher bit rate and sample frequency, where frequencies above 22 khz hasn't been cut off, doesn't sound fake. I actually think it sounds great, but what's missing is a selection of music that matches what you can get on vinyl.
To me the sound is the reason that I kept my records and turntables, and the come back of vinyl just means that it's possible to get new music on vinyl again, which is awesome, except a lot of crap is being put on the marked. As you mention there's not that many pressing plants left, and too many of them pump out really bad quality vinyl to keep up with demands. And the reason that they do that is because they only get 2% of the complaints they know that should be getting, because for some weird reason too many people don't complain when they get a crappy record. Perhaps there are more of those who buys records as a fashion statement, than we think. To record companies it's big business if they can get away with it. The only way to get them to deliver the quality we pay for is to complain. Actually it would be cool if you brought that up in your next video.
Infact it would be awesome if you did some more record reviews like you did on the different Rush releases. It would be cool if it grew to a size where record companies thought twice before releasing crap to avoid ending up on "Craigs list".
I don't know if the come back of vinyl is due to some conspiracy, or manipulation by the record companies. It doesn't seem very likely. But on the other hand the 180 gram scam could point in that direction. Just a shame that besides the consumers, the environment get's f..... over by the extra amount of plastic (which doesn't improve the sound, and often leads to more surface noise).
You're right, and at the same time wrong about what you say about music being made today. You're right that most of it sucks, but quality music is still being made though it isn't given many chances by the record companies, or people in general. But you're wrong to say it like crappy music wasn't made in the past as well, because it sure was, and you can find all the crap at thrift stores by the ton. There you can see all the awful crap that never should have been released. You know that it will never be sold, and you know where it will end up. Therefore crappy music of today should only be allowed to be sold as download, because it's a fact that it will end up the same way. Justin Bieber, Rihannah, and loads of similar junk isn't just a crime against mankind - It's a crime against the environment when released on a physical format. Only allowing quality being released will also take some of the pressure of the pressing plants, so they get the time to make decent quality vinyl.
Thanks for making yet another great video. Stay awesome mate.
I love vinyl AND digital and the freedom to change format every now and then. You can't find a multi channel surround sound mix on vinyl. You can rarely listen to vinyls at a regular day to day work. But vinyl is still more exciting because the producers have to use a slightly different mastering technique plus it just sounds different, analog, more "alive" etc...
YES! Vinyl does sound more "textural". The "direct-to-disc" records sound better than the CDs I have. Recording directly to the "master" with no tape in between adds true realism to the sound.
22 seconds in. Speaking for myself? Nostalgia. Pure and simple. The tactile feel of the whole ritual: The album art and inner liners, the putting an actual record on a turntable and lowering the stylus. The flipping the album. The careful handling. And most of all, the sound. All the stupid chucklehead arguments that "analog" vinyl is cleaner than digital...pfft, stupid...But I like the sound of vinyl. I like the coloration the analog medium makes. I also like cassette, reel and even 8 track for the same reasons. Just the nostalgia and the enjoyment. Bringing music back to what it once was.
I think transferring some of my clean vinyl to my analog Reel to Real stereo deck would be a fun project. Its a very nice Akai vintage tape deck from Japan, I bet the recordings would probably sound awesome at fastest record speed. 😎👍
Vinyl never went away for me. I have always collected since the 1970's. Now today I have hundreds of albums.
I never really got "out of" vinyl. I'm sure I listened to it less as time went on in my life (I'm 54) and cassettes became big, then cd's. I never really got into "streaming" music per se. I did get an mp3 player and it still works and I still use it, just not what most people use it for (It's a Microsoft 30gb Zune) I downloaded old radio shows from the 30's-50's and period music and connected the player to an AM radio transmitter so I could "broadcast" the shows and music to the old tube radios I've restored like my 1933 Philco 18 Highboy and my 1939 RCA K-80 console. CD's I usually listen to in my truck because they handle bumpy roads a lot better than an album would, lol. I have a very few cassettes still I listen to occasionally and so that leaves the majority of my collection on vinyl and shellac. I've almost always had a record player of one type or another around the house whether it was a 1917 Brunswick console or a 1968 BSR MA65, AT or PLX500 or whatever. In the lean years I'd save my record listening for Sunday afternoons to listen while I cleaned house (Sunday mornings being filled with Blues from a local radio station) and would sing along while I worked. Portable players have never really been on my radar. When I'm outdoors I want to hear the outdoors. I live in a rural area so the sounds outside are pleasant. The resurgence in records to me just meant that I could finally get titles I hadn't been able to before, or replace worn albums or albums I've lost over the years from moving, loaning to friends, etc. and I'll be happy to ride this current wave until it eventually dies down again.
What do you mean, "come back" ??
For people like me, it never went away 🙄
I'm 55 and have always had a record player set up and ready to go, even though I don't often use it. My record collection is relatively small but very precious to me.
Same for me. Never stopped playing records.
He’s talking about the mainstream market.
@@Caifo I know. Please lighten up 😊
@Virality TV Does your Janitor still have a job ?
As a musician, vinyl was always cool to me. After piling over 5 TB of mp3 music i finally i bought a turntable and started buying and collecting vinyl records ( and original CDs as well ) just because i can finally afford them. I have at least 500 album titles on my "to buy" list now...let alone the unexpected pleasant surprises that music always has to offer.
Your first answer is also the reason for me to start playing records again: getting bored of digital music. Having a physical record in my hand, enjoying the artwork, getting emotionally triggered when looking at a cover, going to a record store and digging with my hands through all the records. And the best part, putting on a record and actually listen without a “Next” button at fingertip. I’m at the beginning of rebuilding my record collection again and I so excited about this. Thanks for sharing your thoughts in your video. Lot’s of greetings, Dennis 🇳🇱
Vinyl came back to people who never experienced it prior to the resurgence they were sold a bill of goods that magically by its own nature it sounded better- somewhere between subjective but more likely a total lie. So young persons buy shitty devices like those box TTs and this is a laugh one of our local libraries is buying vinyl records AND loaning out those shiity TTs to ruin them on. Might as well light (tax payer funded) 20 dollar bills on fire in the parking lot. It's almost funny, it seems to have become fashion thing. Even purveyors of good gear like audio-engine and U-Turn audio pimp photos pf their respective TTs and powered speakers SITTING ON THE SAME SURFACE, which if you fancy yourself as sound conscious should freak you on principle alone and that moving your speakers toed in 1" or 1 foot apart or putting a rug or curtains in an an otherwise echo-ey room.
My first experience with a record was when i bought my first setup and listened over it via headphone - a heavy Pionier Monitor 10
I lay down on the sofa and listened to Dark Side of the Moon from Pink Floyd. It just blew me away. Not only the music but also the
sound quality just wowed me completly. Ive heard excerpt of it via a old radio before,but hey, i never expected THIS.
Needless to say over the years i became a "vinyljunkie" and in a opportune time,around the mid eighties,when the CD really became
mass compatible thanks to lower prices for players. At that time,at least in my neck of the woods,many early adopters just binned their
whole records collections for minimal prices to the next 2nd hand shop. It was a true bonanza for a short period but of course buisness
quickly discovered a possible profit stream prices began to rise sharply.
However,also the big supermarket chains and even the bigger record stores emptied their storehouses of "the old stuff" on bargain bins..
It kept me busy for a couple years........
Anyway,although this period of my life - music and lots of mary jane with friends- is long over,i never abandoned my records. Admittedly
i sold parts of it off - if i was broke. So over time my pile shrunk from a couple thousand to around one thousand. And CD`s,well i also
never had any problems with them. Like records they can sound very good and absolutly satisfying. So today i probably have more CDs
than records,but for me it was always the music,not the media format anyway,despite always had and always will have a good record
player - at least one - at my disposal.
I think the statement that "vinyl is back" is misleading and really not true. Yeah, records are more popular today than they were 25 years ago, buy they are WAY less popular than they were 50 years ago.
They say in 2019 around 5% of money spent to buy music was spent on vinyl records. How much do you think was spent on records in 1970... 85%? Now, it is true that dollars spent on CDs has tanked down to about the same as records today. Vinyl isn't back nearly as much as CDs are going away. But a record costs 2-3 times what a CD costs nowadays, so if you count quantity instead of revenue, CDs still sell double or triple what records do, even going away as much as they are. Downloads and streaming pull in way more dollars than physical formats nowadays.
To me, the real criteria for whether vinyl is back is how many people are playing it. I'd say for most of us, unless your social circle is made of audiophiles, 5-10% of the people we know around us are playing records. In 1975, that number would have been what, 70% or more? When most of us can say that at least half of people we know who enjoy music are playing records, then vinyl will be back. But we're nowhere near there. Vinyl is not back and probably never will be.
Vinyl is bigger now than ever, and it's growth matches the growth in Tubes. Statisticians say CDs are the best medium (I have plenty), but my ears feel like they are constantly being attacked, and it turns me off. Vinyl purposely rounds of the edges to give you a smoother sound. Tubes take it one step further by making it mellow. Those are the reason there is such a growth in vinyl.
When my dad passed away at 89yo back in '14, I was the only one who in my family who made the effort to make sure his LP collection stayed in the family. Classic music from the 40's 50's & 60's that I love even though I'm an unapologetic, GenX, Classic rocker/Metal head. I took home the cheap turntable that I got for him at a guitar center 20 years ago when his '82 Technics died. I wanted something newer. I grabbed a new AT LP120, (your turntable setup video was extremely helpful btw), and then set out to garage sales, thrift stores, and used record stores in an attempt to restock all the albums I had as a teen, (which I kept in pristine condition) but sold when I became a CD junkie.
I actually cried when I bought Master of Puppets on vinyl recently and heard Cliff Burton playing by himself on Orion. that never happened to me the billion times I listened to it on cd or streaming. when I heard Cliff on that record, I have a zillion times, but just the fact that the physical vibrations that were pressed into that album....made me feel closer to that recording. it's hard to explain, it was a deeply moving thing. I felt closer to it. it wasn't just me listening to music. it was an event.
Two years ago I made the momentous decision to sell my 50 years, 3,000 LP collection thinking (rather, NOT thinking) that i didn’t want to have inconvenience of hauling them when I moved and, besides, I have 33 days of music on my iPod!
I kept back only a hundred or so cherry picked albums.
Not a day goes by that I don’t regret it! If i had known how much I would miss simply having them I would never have sold them. Never!
It’s hard these days going into a record shop these days and seeing the albums i purchased when they first came out selling for $30-$100! It really hurts.
Your video gives me some hope. I will endeavour henceforth to rebuild my collection one by one (used only though...).
Thanks for the vid!
I don't "think" it sounds better. I KNOW it does, cuz I've been listening to transients in mixes god knows since when and maaan I'm telling ya, the vividness and uncompressingness of those tricky bastards are nowhere near as good on other fortmats but vinyl. But I can speak for sure only for 60-85 years period. and only for certain genres I'm familiar with (basically golden ballads like Julio Iglesias, Mireille Mathieu, Dalida, Streisand, Donna Summer, ABBA). It was an eye opener for me first when I heard direct youtube recording of vinyl. Of the song I knew by heart bar to bar. And I heard things I've never heard before. I bought a turntable (high grade one) a month later and my life's never been the same since. I think the secret is mastering engineers, leaving vinyl masters out of overcompressing whilst squeezing the heck out of digital version, but alas, that's what they do with digital since it came along
Brings back childhood memories. Plus like you said its the physical aspect and sound that you just don’t get with digital music. Its a lost art form now resurrected. I’m on my second turntable. I have a lp120 and a rt83 both are great.
I'm 55 and kept my LPs and 45s. Still got my cassettes and a few 8 tracks lol. The music takes you back when you was,growing up.
Hahaha, LOST... To think that show had a hand in "bringing vinyl back" I would almost forgive that thing they called a finale ;)
I sell vinyl to people who sold their vinyls in the 80's/90's.I point out to them they are not that keen on it or they would not have sold it in the first place. They usually buy the cock rock stuff- Zeppelin, Rush, Sabbath....usual noise pollution, Depressing.
I've been really getting into early 40's 50's music and just hearing music that wasn't designed to sell millions in the first week or meet whatever metric. Yoi can hear how genuine the music was when it used to be about entertaining you and not selling ads or ad space.
Why has Vinyl come back? Perhaps it is because digital sounds dry and lifeless. Perhaps it is because of our need for community? Perhaps because records and turntables are so cool looking and people desire a tactile physical experience with their music? With analogue recordings of every kind we get all of the sound both good and the less desirable aspects. Perhaps when we listen to so called perfect recordings our brain understands that we are listening to sounds that are not quite real? Digital, to our minds, may look like Swiss Cheese. Perhaps the unconscious mind makes note of the absences and cannot get past these absences? It then nags the conscious mind. That said I do like the taste of Swiss Cheese. Now I'm hoping for the Reel to Reel Recorder/Players to come back. Then I can pretend it is 1978 once again. 1978, for me, was a very good year.
It’s tactile….you feel the records…you are more a part of the experience and you can see it on the shelf when you are not listening. You physically collect them. Yeah, records sound pretty great with the right setup, but I think people missed the physical experience that digital doesn’t provide. I can honestly say that this is one of the main reasons I came back.
It’s ritualistic, from the searching , to the maintenance, to the physical action of putting the record on. Also the appreciation of the artwork. It’s fun! If it wasn’t fun we wouldn’t spend so much money lol
Records never went away. Djs and audiophiles still bought it.
Hello and thanks for your great channel. I think we are fortunate that the media itself has a shelf life or we wouldn’t be having this conversation. That we are able to still play our records that are 50 to 60 years old, probably out live us. I grew up with both sources and appreciate there strengths but there is nothing better than putting on a record of your favourite band ignoring the odd pop or crack holding that album and singing to the lyrics. I think also by all this extra set up, it made us better listeners. Take care from Montreal
DVD and Blu-Ray sales are plummeting, vinyl sales are up and people are buying TV antennas again. If you would've told me twenty years ago that this is where we were headed I would've said you were nuts.
I think it started out as a trendy thing and then moved into the nostalgia phase. Being a little older it's nice and fun. And maybe as everything is digital it could be a money making thing on the part of record labels. I think it's just a combo of all those things. Plus, the larger covers and cover art are just cooler.
Why vinyl sound realistic & more iinvolvingwhen a stereo record cut/made the cutter is single device cutting left and right channel information simultaneously.When we play record the same groove reads by stylus and immediately signal fed to speaker through amplifier. Very less chance remains to occur any phase shift. Because both channel signal reaching to our ears with very very less phase shift and we get true to recording(faithful) reproduction.
Vinyl never ended for me. I always preferred its sonic characteristics over digital. I don't use the term sound quality because it means different things to different people. To many, the absence of noise and ticks and pops equals better sound quality. I fully understand why some people do not like digital. In my opinion digital is like diet Soda, something essential has been removed and it's just doesn't taste the same.
Vinyl never left it was the big record companies that was trying to kill it just like their trying to kill CD's. In my opinion f the record companies stop the loudness wars and give the consumers the choice of CD or vinyl everybody wins in the long run
Reason for vinyl resurgence: UA-camrs and Facebook users showing off their collections and latest finds helped out enormously. 2007 was the year of uptick which corresponded with the dates of those two sites really taking off.
53 is not over the hill Craig. Its great age and we grew up in the best times!! Vinyl is an experience that is therapeutic! Thanks for the great videos! Keep them coming!
The loudness war made CD's sound like shit. That's why vinyl came back.
I play both LPs and digital and collect both and have done since the 70s. I just buy what I fancy at the time and have always done so, thus for me vinyl never went away.
I will say that I lovely the tangible quality of the LP, it's artwork and the sound of analogue. I also think that my collection is a kind of life history or memoire and very often LPs are associated with events and emotions, consequently they have far more personal meaning than CDS.
However, vinyl is very very expensive especially if you want to get excellent sound out of the medium.
I have what may be considered a mid-high end system to which I recently added (an upgraded) a CD transport at £1000. To achieve the same level of superb fidelity on vinyl will cost approx 3-4 times this for a turntable, phono preamplifier, cartridge, stylus, maintenance, accessories etc. I know as I have tested and costed this out- should I be tempted to upgrade my TT setup. Add to this the cost of vinyl vs CD and the fact that it deteriorates every time it gets played and I sometimes feel that I must be losing the plot.
Whilst every fibre of logical mind and ears screams 'forget vinyl, digital is now far better and cheaper' I still buy vinyl !!!!! I'm even happier that so many new titles are being pressed on vinyl and that there are more and more opportunities to go crate digging for old LPs.
I can only think that my personal 'vinyl revival' must be something to do with a serious chemical imbalance in my brain and I just can't stop myself :) :) :) ;)
I think the nostalgia of a record player and seeing them in a few tv shows and movies might have helped bring it back. I love putting on a record and do some cleaning or unwinding for the legenth of a record. It’s definitely an experience and most of the time I get lost in the music.
Digital is great but you can't beat the expense, inconvenience and frustration you get from vinyl!
I think it’s coming back because people are getting tired of renting their music. That’s my experience at least
Digital made music so accessible that hardly anybody cares anymore..not with vinyl records,sound is more alive and easier on ear for 2 or more hours of listening,its something i cant do with digital,its just a tiring listen.
Great discussion. My fam stayed in a historic refurbished lodge this summer. They had an old turntable in the room with some vinyl albums lying around. That was the first time in over 25 years I have dropped a needle on a record and it was fun to introduce the medium to my 2 teenage daughters. Upon returning home, I immediately bought a turntable, had my sister and brother in-law send me my old albums I had left behind and hadn't listened to since leaving for college. The nostalgia of listening to those records for the first time since I was a teenager was pure magic. The artwork, the liners, the crackling and pops, the feeling of physically handling the album, the nostalgia, listening to the music the way the artists originally intended.. I'm hooked.
I like vinyl because you see it playing is not invisible unlike mp3 streaming you don't see them playing.
I ditched all my Vinyl and Deck in 2008. In 2018 I was in a charity shop and saw some virtually brand new classical music albums at £1 each. I bought 10. I have just bought a Thoren TD160 and SME series 3 arm. Absolutely tremendous! What a awesome sound!
vinyl came back because the 90´s suckd ass so people made hardcore , punk , indierock and made them vinyl only .. that´s how i got back into vinyl