Doom 2: Okuplok Slaughter Map in
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2021
- Okuplok Slaughter Map in 1:57:36, UV-Max, Almost Reality, TAS
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To anybody that's going to make variations of one of the following comments: "iddqd," "you got hit," "you took damage," and "hits don't register," please grow a brain and learn what a TAS is. If you still doubt the legitimacy of this video, please follow the first two links in the description. I go by L0l1nd3r on Doomworld, and my demo is at the top of the list; Azuruish's demo is there too. If you're still incapable of growing a brain, then there is no help for you. I'll heart your comments, all the same, to show that I have read them.
Curse of the TAS videomaker; there is never not somebody who doesn't know what TAS is about.
What is exactly TAS and seems it is very effective.
Hey you hit those poor demons. I saw it. They didn’t do anything to you… they just wanted to live on the edge of cliffs, in ominous darkly lit hallways, behind completely enclosed monster closets, and in lava and damaging floor areas. They just wanted to be left alone.
Those poor demons.
TAS is Tasmania, right?
@@insane_troll I think it stands for something. “Tiny Aardvark Ship” or “Total Arbitrary Statue”
1:34:55 The timing on that scream with the music is perfect!
Perfect! I listened it several times
Feels oddly satisfying.
More rockets were fired in this level than in every playthrough of Vanilla Doom I've ever done.
When's the STRAWBERRY MANGO DOOM coming out ?
The ability to dodge between two mancubus fireballs and also knife-sharp dodging between Cacos fireballs -- it is almost inhuman. Like all the calculated movements - consantly extending forward or backwards with every circle. Precision at that level - ultimate!!! Which it of course is as it is TAS -- but still really impressive!
Something about reality runs is so satisfying to watch :D
Love rewatching your runs now and then, when my life lacks perfectionism
Exactly what I needed to help me relax and fall asleep, thank you
That pirouette and switch bump without letting go of the trigger at 31:41 ... lmao
This TAS guy is really good.
"No DoomGuys were harmed during the making of this speedru-"
* 1:16:45 happens *
"Uh, never mind..."
Also at 37:14
And 1:36:20
1:39:43
Almost Reality allows taking damage from damaging floors, please at least research the meaning of the category before that
@@nefelibeta2637 Wow. Ok. Um, two things...
1: I already knew that.
2: my comment was a (terrible) joke.
At 1:57:37. Erik: at last, I finished the level 1, let's try the next map!!!
These are a thing of beauty
Very nicely done I wish I had the time to attempt this.
Ayo this TAS guy is so good look at him dodging projectiles without even looking. He's so good he had to be banned from every single Speedrun leaderboard globally just to keep competition fair.
Imagine playing this map on a '90 PC where ram is counted by MB, CPU is counted by Hz and VRam is almost non existence.. It would take about 20 mins to load this map, and then crash right after the first batch of monsters fire their projectiles
Wow… just… wow!! I am floored. You did this with hundreds of Revenant rockets chasing after you. What a great video - watched the whole thing!
How crazy man! It would be really cool to play this map using invincibility, just to see the enemies kill each other.
Im not a speedrunner at the slightest, but i like watching crazy shit like this from time to time. Cool dynamic and nice music choice.
Remember when the final challenge of Doom episode 1 was fighting 2 barons of hell?
Bruiser brothers
Same as nightmare it was made As a joke to be unbeatable by the devs but was turned into a joke by speed runners took like 2 years for good runs in 20 30 minutes
That Big Fat Double Gun Yielding Fluffy Demon Line: *ANJU-MALO*
Thats manocubus
That, for a MS-DOS IBM PC, is overkill! I'm glad you didn't have a BSOD.
Also, how the hell do you TAS a total bloody war? You did it!! Unbelievable!
Nice video!
1:16:48 Doomguy can't reach the platform so he just straight up swims in lava while he waits for it to fill up enough.
Hard. Core.
such calculation for the red room OMG
I finally found this vid after 2 YEARS
Biblically accurate Doom Slayer in the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened.
Doomguy according to lore
Nice job! I haven't watched it entirely yet, but you did it with no damage, right? This means, that you made it better than Zero Master did both regarding dmg received (he took damage twice during the run) and total time. Again, amazing job, man!
1:13:12 Even knowing it's TAS I could not avoid clenching my teeth at that close call.
Dawg, how much time it'd took you to viddump this... Holy cow
Can you give a list of the music tracks you used for this run, particularly the track that starts at 1:17:41? They really tie it together.
That is one track: Legend of the Black Sun. It is 49 minutes long.
@@Erik-bt3om Holy crap. A track as massive as the WAD itself. Thanks!
Incredible…
I know a bit of this-and-that when it comes to vanilla _Doom._ Like, I know that rockets and Mancubus fireballs share a weird hit box. Still, something feels _odd._ It looks like you _should_ have been hit _countless_ times by _both._ Yes, you can say "TAS" all day, but I think I'd need to see a run of this with hit boxes enabled to truly ease my doubts…
_… is there even a source port that_ has _that kind of functionality?_
The best source port to use right now is dsda-doom. play my demo using the -recordfromto and -tas parameters and bind a key to use build mode. You can then enable the full automap overlay and use the iddt cheat twice to show everything. While things are represented as circles, just remember they have square hit-boxes aligned to the block map. A projectile only checks for collision once per tic so its possible a projectile may have passed through me at an angle where the collision check did not detect a collision. As for escaping the first chain gunner trap, that's just RNG manipulation. Retry until I don't get hit, zapped, or catch a rocket. Same with running between the two Spider Masterminds, or dealing with any hit scan enemy.
the full command to use is: dsda-doom.exe -iwad doom2 -file oku2v31 -recordfromto demo_In.lmp demo_Out.lmp -complevel 9 -nomusic -tas
Actually, I've been mucking about with _Doom_ a little more since I made that post. I underestimate just _how small_ the "generic fireball" hitbox is. I say this because while I was dancing with a Mancubus in a test map, I experienced a handful of near-hits, too. I've also seen similar things happen in other videos. _Doom_ is a weird, highly-optimized game.
The only real difference between this and that is that with TAS, this sort of thing is bound to happen even _more_ because of the absolutely _ridiculous_ amount of control the player has. So, this is absolutely TAS-legit, as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks for taking the time to explain, though. I know you get sick of these kinds of comments, which is why I tried to approach from a more, you know, diplomatic angle. Heh heh.
How do you not take any damage when those rockets are point blank range in some spots?
I ask myself the same question. Just remember, explosions are squares with infinite height.
I have a question for god :
WHICH MADMAN CREATED THIS MAP ?!?!?
A former member of the community with the same name.
@@Erik-bt3om Oh i see and also do you think it's even possible to do this map without tools and stuff like this ? Because i bet my 2 kidneys i can't survive more than 5 seconds in this fireball nightmare
@@theendgame0967 zero master thinks it's possible, but he won't do it as it's too tedious.
@@theendgame0967 it has been done with saves and reloads
Cool. How did you manage to get a 45 mins faster run than ZM? That's quite a time save
ZeroMaster's run had fast monsters enabled. I did it with normal monsters. I'll admit I totally stole the BFG tracer trick for the second chaingunner trap.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about fast monsters :D
@@elinferno8363 ZM was also doing an explicit no-hit run. When you aren't treating health as a resource, you're inherently slowing yourself down.
Mind you I'm not noticing any hits in this one so far either :P
@@reloadpsi This run is stated in description as Almost-Reality. I believe later in the run at some point he takes some floor damage at one point, but iirc that’s about it.
Just about everything Erik uploads is reality, check out his other work.
@@Erik-bt3om How would fast monsters make a TAS that much slower? Dodging may be harder, but not really for a TAS. If anything, it should be faster because they have higher dps for infighting. Gotta play the runs side-by-side with a kills-per-second graph...
Gonna watch through this and try to give my own names to sections of the level.
0:02 Entryway - Stairway to Hell
1:02 Gladiator's Cave
4:38 The Blood Red Carpet
10:13 Infernal Courtyard
17:39 Bridge Over Troubled Souls
18:20 Lead Catacombs
28:33 The Mothership
37:08 Irradiated Castle
54:14 Church of the Forsaken One
1:05:34 Ruined Fallout Shelter
1:09:15 The Elevator - Not An Emergency Exit!
1:10:26 The Docks at the Edge of the World
1:17:49 Megalodon's Tunnel
1:29:14 Nightmare Machine
1:34:44 Sheol
1:47:33 Final Battle - Satan's Fanclub
1:57:35 *OK,* go *UP,* and *LOK* it in! ;)
I salute you.
Decino Unleashed
It is a great run! Less than two hours, its unbelievable! How much time did it take to record it?
A lot less time than the first one, thanks to rewind. Never actually counted the actual time it took.
Lol Funny how buddies using God mode, never takes a hit. Downvote this garbage. Decino is the doom God
@@whitecoupgang nobody argues, bro. Decino is Doom God. But this is a different category of run )
@@whitecoupgang
Get out.
U god mod. Many Time spotted.
Don't think you are Zero Master.
Your run is Fake
What about fast monsters too? 🤔🤔🤔
And multiplayer monsters, but I assume this map doesn't have them
I prefer the actual music of the map, but that's subjective. Nice run.
How were you able to replace the level's soundtrack with legend of black sun?
Used Slade to replace the D_Runnin Lump.
Cheat fun:
1. Freeze, but pull all monster groups. Keep it frozen.
2. Spawn a few hundred friendly cyberdemons, scattered around the map.
3. Begin = crazy lag, but monsters die by the hudreds each second.
It will crash any PC
@@eurocarpleurocarpl2057 It doesn't crash mine. Just things remain laggy while there are more than 10,000 alerted monsters are around.
@@bbenjoe oh, I wish I would have better PC...
1:40:16 Really screwing up here, your at death's door!
please do pacifist run on this map
BRO YOU ARE FUCKING INSANE. This shit should be put in a canvas in some museum frrr 😍
I've downloaded this map, but I don't have TAS. Its just impossible for me to beat it because my game slows so much with so many monsters
What?
@@nonenothingnull sometimes game crashes on my laptop with so many monsters. I have 2 have mor RAM
@@eurocarpleurocarpl2057 doesn't it run better in prboom+ or mbf
Where can I get these music tracks?
Link is in the description: "Legend of the Black Sun."
Bro’s playing a Touhou game and racking up those graze points lol
???
What CPU and graphic card is recommended to play this wad?
If you have a computer that can run PrBoom+ you can run this map. Doom is mostly CPU bound and runs in a single thread. An Intel i5 with integrated graphics would be enough. It takes a lot of entities, well over 10,000 active things to slow PrBoom down.
With Doom it's more about whether you use a source port that's optimized well than if your computer is strong, considering the toaster you threw out when you were renovating your kitchen could've run it.
@@reloadpsi Rule 666 of the internet: If it exists, it can run DOOM.
@@Preinstallable Aye.
How it can be, that he get no any damage while whole level? Is this a trick or he is really cool?
It's TAS.
Imagine playing frame by frame
I am rather depressed at how few people know what the hell they are talking about in this comment section.
comment section on literally any TAS: bRuH r U cHeAtInG??!?!?11?
19:31 How did you predict that fireball??
The same way I predict all fireballs. In making a TAS, I use the automap as a 360° radar. It is then a simple matter to use a minimum of movement to move out of the way.
Honestly this looks like id the demons captured doom guy and sent him to a max security prison.
The demons are using both their troops and criminals to stop him. It's absurd
The master mind are generals, cyber are cornels, arch are lieutenants. The rest are pets, criminals and grunts
we need chainrocketlauncher
still saw the glitches anyway good TAS
just wondering how long did it take to make this TAS speedrun?
Many many hours
@@eurocarpleurocarpl2057 I was thinking in terms of months
We have 2 wait for Erik to answer. Erik??
Yes.
So... how come no damage is ever taken in this TAS? Is it insanely fine tuned, more than other TAS runs?
Rewind. If I get hit, I rewind and try something different until I don't get hit. Build mode (frame by frame) wasn't available yet, so rewind to an auto key frame.
@@Erik-bt3om
That must be absolutely monotonous and exhausting. And time consuming! I have a greater idea of what a TAS is nowadays but it would be cool to actually see one being made.
@@wet-read if I were to guess, this probably took around 40 to 50 hours to make. I really loose track of time on these long maps.
What help did the TAS give?
This map is impossible without a lot of save scumming. Dodging all of the projectiles is also impossible without making it a Tool Assisted run.
@@Erik-bt3om is there no single segment legit (no save) non tas run?
@@tondrone9124 watch?v=HXnEKHdDuHA&list=PLvP0dusu4z92KAy6iAN4OGcWpcgGogS4u&index=1
This is the best so far. 44 non-tas segments
@@tondrone9124 Decino did it legit with a LOT of saving, that is honestly about as close as you are ever likely to get. Both efforts are seriously impressive.
@@tondrone9124
The UA-camr "Coincident" just did one yesterday. Just under 6 hours, no saves, all in one go. Though he did in on the "Im too young to die" difficulty for double ammo pickups and half damage taken. Doing it on ultra violence, for now, isnt possible. But who knows, that might change one day. Definitely worth a watch :D
Did you lose time staring at the cyberdemon's ass, and dodging rockets only horizontally instead of continuing to move forward? Around 27:00.
More like 26:45.
Cyberdemon has a nice ass. It's to get him to move forward and get him mad at the Revenents. The normal strategy is to kill him first.
@@Erik-bt3om I swear I was just looking for your Frimaire tas video right when your loves came in. What a coincidence.
Ok, now do it with Doom God Complex mod.
I'd love to figure it out, unfortunately they don't have it in console and tired of PC. Unless I could get my old WOW account back. But by the numbers of glitchers on COD kinda a little detestable.
The name of this level should have been called hells welcoming party
shrimple as that
37:38: CYBERdensity
What Almost Reality means?
No damage from any monster. Only floor damage.
Si es TAS, pa que entonces, que chiste :v
Doomguy is my favourite Touhou character
this is one of the most mentally frustrating maps ive ever seen
Bullethell
And he passes with a cheat on life, or how is it that he has never received damage???
He did not cheat. He reversed the frames every time he got hit and changed the frames so that he avoids the projectile
Whats the point of this video? I could do this with god mode on?
101%?
Arch-villes....
Who cares about the nay-sayer commenters. I've been watching Decino and Zeromaster do this one and who cares if this is TAS its still awesome to watch, GG brudda
Guy 1 "Wow cool! How did he do that?"
Guy 2 "That's a TAS run."
Guy 1 "Oh..."
Htf is possible you took no damage
Don't you know? This TAS guy is unbeatably skilled.
Hey you got hit, and you took damage, and the hits don't register! Iddqd
2:13:600. i swear to god that fire ball clipped mad through you.... tas or not.. i find this sus
I totally agree. There's maybe 1 map unit to spare, but all three missed. I think interpolating to 60 fps from 35 tic/sec may may introduce... Illusions? Recording in slow motion and playing back in normal speed makes any TAS demo look suspicious. You would have to play the demo in engine, slow it way down and watch with the automap.
@@Erik-bt3om I play doom through Unity on Xbox which runs at 60 fps and it certainly affects the enemy behaviour and such. How interpolating at 60fps i honestly cant say i have any idea the slightest difference haha.
(though i know doom never ran originally at 60fps by default)
im more just yanking your crank cause i really have no idea why and what happened. and doom can be a very strange beast itself lol. Regardless I really appreciate the well thought out reply and much appreciate it. Regardless, amazing effort you put in. always appreciate the work that goes into runs like this. especially levels this massive
Now someone make this map in doom eternal.
Wouldnt work, console would burn even with the first room
Why make maps that are only beatable with severe RNG manipulation.
Technically beatable on UV without any assists... just not easy.
you seem like a cool dude, dude
@@wilsterwonkels7384 Did ya check my DW history, haha.
What the bloody hell is TAS ff's 🤔🤣 Seriously do i have too google😮😊
It's short for "Tool Assisted Speedrun." As the name implies, tools are used to get a theoretical best for a game(usually by manually inputing the keypresses). In this case, there's also a rewind function to make things easier.
It was very funny for me to play with cheats when i was 7 yo :)
And now imagine that TAS is entirely programmed, aka done in a different way... it's a totally separate category of speedrunning, cannot be treated as RTAs.
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Is there a copy of this where someone doesn't cheat? By cheating, I mean modding, glitching, screen overlay.
I think decino did a run by normal save scumming, but it took him a really damn long time. We're talking your while afternoon, maybe more.
As someone else said, Decino did with a LOT of saving, but to add to that though, it was over 10 hours.
@@LyingSecret Technically, this kind of TAS and save scumming are pretty much the same. Decino's run would look quite similar if you cut out all the failed saves (except for the no damage of course).
@@RealNovgorod Decino does great stuff, and I was in for some of the 10 hours he played Okuplok for :D A TAS is splicing together individual frames, no one is saying it isn't, which is why it's a separate and totally valid speedrun category.
It was more the arrogance and then back-peddling this other person did to try and defend their own ignorance of a topic, instead of asking or researching it first.
@@LyingSecret Sure, I don't even want to waste my time on someone who doesn't know what a TAS is and the beauty of engineering a perfect run. What I meant is that this kind of TAS is really not that far off a heavily save-scummed run in terms of "cheating" because the concept is essentially the same and the TAS tool makes it more convenient. For a 2h run like this it took a myriad of savestates, but it's not optimizing every single frame. There's a great deal of skill involved to get such a recording done and the savestates are "just" to manipulate the luck. I also watched Decino's run (both of them!) - he has definitely steel balls, that's out of the question.
idkfa xd
Its TAS. He didnt used cheats like IDDQD etc. Unless you consider TAS is not a cheat but in my opinion is a tool that van make complete levels like this possible to finish
@@eurocarpleurocarpl2057 i know, just making the silly remark, about acquiring keys full ammo ignoring the plentiful there are
Ok, this must have been bot assisted, it's impossible to dodge projectiles coming from the back when you can't possibly know when they are fired.
It's 2022, go look up what a TAS is. They've been a thing for like twenty years.
@@reloadpsi therefore I'm right.
@@Kenar.E right.... and? You say that like he cheated or tried to get one over on people, if it's marked as a TAS, which it is, it's a separate category to normal runs anyway.
@@LyingSecret well, it's cheating. Every cheat system is an assist so...
@@Kenar.E OH O.K. you're a troll, honestly sorry I didn't realise and feel like I have wasted your time, good luck with that man, hope someone else responds with a level of anger you wish to receive :D
Godmode cheat?
Not godmode- damagefactor 0.001. Saw a lot of times where he was hit,but didn't lose hp
@@liter7080 Yeah, right. And Zero Master did the same, lol. Just love when someone that doesn't TAS (or doesn't seem to be familiar with them) judges it.
Mack Hammer: neither, lol.
So you saying you had zero hits on your 200 health and armour through out the map? 🙄 No loss of health even when doom guy plays pain state animation
Almost Reality allows taking damage from damaging floor
doesnt look legit to me
Its a tool assisted speedrun (TAS), which is legit for what its supposed to be.
It has cheat "God mode" unable to hurt character still his health 200% or it's either Artificial Intelligent driven...
Rest assured there is no God Mode in a demo. Perfectly dodging projectiles requires a lot of retry.
Edmond: perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the meaning of TAS (acronym means Tool-Assisted Speedrun). Might brighten things up ; )
The cringe Anti-Jesus crosses; yeah smd
It's Doom, what did you expect?
This is fake or god mode. In several occasions you can clearly see he receives direct hits and takes no damage, what a noob!
One bud the biggest WOW!
Hi. Where can I Download Okuplok? Did not find it on the Internet ! :-/
Links are in the description.
@@Erik-bt3om Checked the Links. But found only different Runs and not the PWAD. Which link do you mean ?
The link is the big blue title itself. Click on "Oku2v31."
Ahhhhh thanks mate. I was so blind 🙈
@@Erik-bt3om Maybe you can help me out once again. I do not get the WAD Running. The Application Crashes. I am using the Version with Master Levels from GOG. Put it into DOOM-IT as an additional map. It tries to start but then Crashes. Which Version are you using ?