Half the cost is the 9700X, you can get the 9600X for the third. But don’t forget that this is only 1080p, this is only benchmarks, not real situation.
Thank you for the comparison of the recent zen5 models. Looks like the 9700x and 9800x3d are performing quite similar in some of the less FPS focused games, however the X3D seems to be more efficient (power draw and temps).
The buried lede here, especially for SFF builds, is that the 9800X3D uses far less power with better performance a number of times even than the 9600X. Seems when CPU constrained it uses about the same power as the 9600X.. Amazing. But it stands to reason if a game is cache sensitive it's far more efficient to pull data from cache than make the core do the work.
9800x3D is a beast but I cannot justify it anymore it's literally over 600 euros at the moment, that is *WAY* too expensive, but probably because it's out of stock. I assume the price will be below 500 euros when its in a healthy stock again.
For gaming : Save your money, buy an heavy GPU and a nice monitor ! 9600X is the best solution with the best ratio perf/price in gaming, less 200 euros with the black friday (179 euros exactly taxes incluse...)
If you're really looking to save money, then you should be looking at the 5700X3D. The CPU itself is fairly cheap, but most importantly, so as the motherboard and RAM.
@@KillFrenzy96 I also asked myself this question as I am on AM4. It is clear that the 5700X3D is probably the best choice on this platform today. But I bought the AM4 platform at the end of its life, and I admit that I regret it a little. I "only" benefited from this socket for 4 years. I would have had a 3600X, I would have taken the 5800X3D a long time ago and there I can say that I would have really used all the upgradeable potential of the AM4, but I have an 5600X. Today I don't want to make the same "mistake" again and I certainly prefer more money now by switching to AM5 and then enjoying it until 2027 with new processors which will come out if I feel the need without having to have everything to change. I will have amortized my investment. While the AM4 I just have the feeling of having bought something obsolete 4 years ago but I couldn't wait yet (I was with an Intel I7 4770K and I had just acquired an RTX3080) . In any case the answer to the question of what is really necessary for someone is difficult to answer.
@@odie5268 Its the same arguments doing the rounds again a decade later. Schedulers need to get better and a lot and I mean a LOT of work is being done in scheduling, I mean new schedulers are being built not just optimized to make better use of threads and preemption. This is clearly described on Phoronix articles. Here and now means nothing for highly threaded workloads. New patches are being added to the kernel and this includes testing new schedulers written in Rust.
@@pamus6242 it doesn't matter for gamers. The fact of the matter is getting more cores because you think it helps gaming in some way because of "background tasks" is not a reality. Maybe in the future where scheduling is smarter sure. Right now it takes so much bespoke work it can only really bear fruit in something like a closed console platform.
These tests are not ok. Why would you enable dlss and raytracing and other GPU related gimics when you are testing CPUs ?? I know that the 9800X3D is better than others but the test results are not accurate.
Think for 2d games its decent improvement but nothing too amazing but i noticed massive improvements in vr applications going from 5800X to 9800x3d especially on stutters.
Wow, both the 9600X and the 9800X3D are incredible, especially the 9600X. 75-85% of the 9800X3D's performance at half the cost. Wild.
Half the cost is the 9700X, you can get the 9600X for the third.
But don’t forget that this is only 1080p, this is only benchmarks, not real situation.
Thank you for the comparison of the recent zen5 models. Looks like the 9700x and 9800x3d are performing quite similar in some of the less FPS focused games, however the X3D seems to be more efficient (power draw and temps).
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Its because the 96mb of 3d cache gets pretty toasty so they have to downclock the cpu
2:00 how can gpu usage be almost 50& on 9600x, but still only 5 percent away from 9800x3d?
Hello can you tell me which BIOS version you used for the test, especially for 9600X?
The buried lede here, especially for SFF builds, is that the 9800X3D uses far less power with better performance a number of times even than the 9600X. Seems when CPU constrained it uses about the same power as the 9600X.. Amazing. But it stands to reason if a game is cache sensitive it's far more efficient to pull data from cache than make the core do the work.
9800x3D is a beast but I cannot justify it anymore it's literally over 600 euros at the moment, that is *WAY* too expensive, but probably because it's out of stock. I assume the price will be below 500 euros when its in a healthy stock again.
Where I live, the 9800X3D cost almost 2x than the 9700X and I’m in Europe too. I’m good with the 9700X.
Does anyone have an explanation for the GPU usage on Silent Hill with the 9600x ? More fps with half usage ?
For gaming : Save your money, buy an heavy GPU and a nice monitor !
9600X is the best solution with the best ratio perf/price in gaming, less 200 euros with the black friday (179 euros exactly taxes incluse...)
Yeah got that one on Aliexpress fingers crossed 🤞🏻
Thanks! I bought 9600X and paired it with 7800XT, can't wait to build my PC this sunday!
If you're really looking to save money, then you should be looking at the 5700X3D. The CPU itself is fairly cheap, but most importantly, so as the motherboard and RAM.
@@KillFrenzy96 I also asked myself this question as I am on AM4. It is clear that the 5700X3D is probably the best choice on this platform today. But I bought the AM4 platform at the end of its life, and I admit that I regret it a little. I "only" benefited from this socket for 4 years. I would have had a 3600X, I would have taken the 5800X3D a long time ago and there I can say that I would have really used all the upgradeable potential of the AM4, but I have an 5600X. Today I don't want to make the same "mistake" again and I certainly prefer more money now by switching to AM5 and then enjoying it until 2027 with new processors which will come out if I feel the need without having to have everything to change. I will have amortized my investment. While the AM4 I just have the feeling of having bought something obsolete 4 years ago but I couldn't wait yet (I was with an Intel I7 4770K and I had just acquired an RTX3080) . In any case the answer to the question of what is really necessary for someone is difficult to answer.
7500F better
9950x and 9900x will smoke the others when multitasking with background apps running in parallel.
Absolutely
Yeah, surely something most people do
Hardware Unboxed already debunked this myth. It was at best low single digit difference. Even "while streaming".
@@odie5268
Its the same arguments doing the rounds again a decade later.
Schedulers need to get better and a lot and I mean a LOT of work is being done in scheduling, I mean new schedulers are being built not just optimized to make better use of threads and preemption. This is clearly described on Phoronix articles.
Here and now means nothing for highly threaded workloads. New patches are being added to the kernel and this includes testing new schedulers written in Rust.
@@pamus6242 it doesn't matter for gamers. The fact of the matter is getting more cores because you think it helps gaming in some way because of "background tasks" is not a reality. Maybe in the future where scheduling is smarter sure. Right now it takes so much bespoke work it can only really bear fruit in something like a closed console platform.
It's more interesting the 1% fps than the average. It's better to have solid fps...
As always, BG3 is effing brutal...
These tests are not ok. Why would you enable dlss and raytracing and other GPU related gimics when you are testing CPUs ?? I know that the 9800X3D is better than others but the test results are not accurate.
Frame pacing doesn't look all that good on the X3D compared to the others.
Think for 2d games its decent improvement but nothing too amazing but i noticed massive improvements in vr applications going from 5800X to 9800x3d especially on stutters.
I buy my 9600x for 170€, Best perf/price
🤦♂another processor test on ultra preset with gpu bottle neck
You think a 4090 is bottlenecked at 1080p 😆
@@BlackThunderRC It can. Look at Alan wake 2 results for evidence.
@@BlackThunderRC Well in Alan Wake 100% across all chips so yeah I think it could be an issue in the other games to a lesser extent.
Yeah that's called real life test scenario.
This bugs me, but in the thumbnail the $ comes before the amount. Not after. $.02