Conflict in Ukraine - A European war in 10 voices | DW Documentary
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2023
- Bombs and flight. Atrocities and suffering. As the war in Ukraine shakes the world, Russia spreads propaganda, falsely claiming that this war is about the "denazification" of Ukraine. In this film, 10 people tell their stories - and give the war a human face.
Ten people talk about their experiences of the war in Ukraine. All were interviewed immediately after the war began. Yaroslav is 17 and had to flee from Kharkiv to Germany without his parents. The war turned him into an adult within a very short time: "Damn, what I would give to hang out with my buddies again in Kharkiv, even to go back to school, to class! Why do you only start to appreciate something when you lose it?" Alla, 69, spent more than half her life in Moscow and has now lived in Cologne for many years. She is ashamed of Russia and stunned by what happened: "For me, there are no halftones. There is only black or white. Russia is the aggressor." Roman, 40, sees it differently. He was born in Odesa and has lived with his family in Germany for more than 30 years. "This is a military operation, to protect the population of the Donbass region. This is my personal opinion."
Everyone in the film has a direct connection to this conflict. They’re all a part of this European war - a term Europeans have had to reintroduce into their daily vocabulary 77 years after the end of World War II. Valerij, a priest of the Russian Orthodox Church in Wiesbaden, is Ukrainian by birth: "It is a fratricidal war. The history of mankind begins with murder. One brother kills another. Cain killed Abel. Why?"
Vitali is a renowned director from Moscow with Ukrainian roots. He has made documentaries about Gorbachev and Putin, among others, and now lives in exile in Latvia: "If every Russian citizen hung a Ukrainian flag in his window, this government would collapse under the weight of Ukrainian flags. And now let's take a look around: How many flags are hanging in Russian windows? Three, four? Ah, none at all?! Then what else do you want!"
Ten interviews with 10 people. No archive pictures, no clips from the news, no commentary. Nothing that distracts from the speakers - so that viewers can really hear their voices.
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Roman; a Russian (or from the Soviet Union as he so proudly stated) living in obvious comfort in Germany, talking about 'a military action to protect the people in the Dombas region' as if nobody has been killed and peoples' lives are not in ruins now. If he is so fond of Putin, he should definitely leave his comfy chair, his good meals, and go and offer his service to Putin's Russia. Otherwise he is just a hypocrite.
Throughly Agree! But when we said such comments to those people with schizophrenic life (Nostalgic for their Motherland, but live or marry in richer country) you know, we are usually labeled as Racism or Far-Right.
Not mention to the subsequent discussion.😊
Hypocrite because of what?
@@omyhaby1912 Pharisee, formalist, cheat. Living in luxury when he should be fighting his 'just war'. Hence a hypocrite in my estimation. Another description is a person not putting their money where their mouth is.
PRussian Wagner Wotan Wahnwitz volapyk salad without Buckwheat & red beads. Even stolen toilets and wash machines needs sewage treatment plants, and Murmansk submarine graveyard needs recycling ASAP
Communist are communist no matter what!
Roman is a perfect example of the brainwashed individual. My family from Luhansk had a perfectly fine life before the russians with weapons came on ukrainian lands. Donbas is Ukraine and will always be
It isn’t anymore 😂
@@DeJulius_Caesaroh, russians again, couldn't even get the whole district in 9 years. Donbas is still Ukraine, though a part of it is occupied by russian zombies
it never was Ukrainian until it was included in Ukraine in 1922. And it will never be Ukrainian again
Donbas is a part of Ukraine! Донбас - це Україна!
Roman should go to Russia and experience "the proper way of living" in Russia. Despising so much a freedom of speech and protest and living in the country that embodies it. Also, this guy clearly didn't check what is going on with Ukraine after 2014 and all the improvements we had. He still sees the Ukraine of 1992. Why he even was taken for commenting.
That guy was completely disjointed with his views.
When he said "In USSR we were not differentiating between Ukrainian and Russian", I knew he was Russian. Of course they were differentiating, there's still huge xenophobia in Russia, especially towards people from the Asian republics. And all that Donbas talk of his, he was simply lying for 2 minutes with a straight face. Btw, I've seen him on other German TV programs. He's simply a Putinist abusing the freedoms that European democracy gives him. The freedoms that are nonexistent in Russia. And he lives safely in a NATO state and the EU. A hypocrite.
"Conflict in Ukraine"? DW can never call it what it is "russian-Ukrainian war". 🤦♀️
DW can never call it what it is; the "NATO proxy war", either. 🤦♀
I would say that Ukraine is far better than Russia due to the simple fact that Ukraine hasn't invaded anyone.
How about America?
Thank you DW for this emotional documentary and giving voices to these Ukrainian refugees.Hearing their stories was very heartbreaking.They have went through alot of hardships & pain.I hope the war ends soon and all these Ukrainian refugees would go back to their normal lives in Ukraine.
Thank you for commenting and sharing your thoughts :)
Roman is a walking lesson in logical/rhetorical fallacies. Whataboutism, strawman arguments, illicit commutativity, card stacking, post hoc, etc, etc. His commentary should be used in university to teach students how to see through and refute paper thin arguments
That wasn't whataboutism. He acknowledged what Russia is doing to be wrong, then expressed his opinion about why he thinks Russia attacked, and said that the west should have showed up during the years where Ukraine was shelling those regions, instead of now acting like the human rights defender. Again it's his opinion, and you can see the very same logical fallacies in the west's narrative. There is no absolute truth, but we know that attacking people is 100% wrong, so calm down.
You got schooled boiiiii
@@rimed5718 Ok, I have to say it, it's really amusing how in the same sentence you say "There is no absolute truth" followed by "It's 100% wrong to..." which is an expression of your belief in an absolute truth.
I don't believe I attacked a person here, but rather a position and an argument. However, I also disagree that it is 100% wrong to confront ("attack") people on these matters. In fact, I would argue that we have an obligation to do so when we see or hear an argument that we think is flawed/incorrect and potentially harmful or damaging.
I have to assume you actually agree with me on this point, because you decided to confront me.
As for the whataboutism, I was going to rewatch the video to find timestamps, but then remembered that life was short. In any case, the point I was making was not on whether or not there are cases of whataboutism here, but rather, that his arguments are logically flawed. If that means I'm attacking him, so be it.
@@DeJulius_Caesar Really? I fail to see how.
@@EeroMyrsky Listen, there is no absolute truth regarding "why Russia attacked", but it is 100% wrong to kill innocent people. The dude stated his belief regarding the motivation of Russia to attack, which is as uncertain as all the other narratives.
Forcing him to share your opinion is just abuse of freedom of thought and expression. Of course there are cases where people should be shut, like those who hold Nazi views and ask for corruption/violence. However, I don't see any request for violence in what he said. So, I don't see why you're so angry. I don't agree with you entirely on that point.
I don't see his arguments flawed. He gave a sound opinion about what he belives. He said that according to his opinion "Russia is carrying this operation to protect the people who were shelled for 8 years" However, he stated that he doesn't take any side, because he lived in the soviet Union and they were all the same. He criticised germany for showing up only now by providing arms, while it could have prevented this (according to him) in the past by condemning Ukraine's shellings on those Russians, or stopping it.
I don't see where is whataboutism here, or any of the ones your stated. This is how he sees things. I think that the west"s version of "Putin feeling insecure and scared of Biden, so he started acting out" is more wild than this opinion. If you want to see real logical fallacies, I would recommend to you a documentary about the west and Russia. Just tell me.
DW, is fantastic, great journalism. 👍
Thank you for your positive feedback:)
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I agree
Why #conflict? It's a war!!!
--Conflict in Ukraine-- Russian war in Ukraine. Don't remove the aggressor from the context.
It doesn’t matter anymore who the aggressor is. What matters is the guns stop!
@@fletcher9778did NATO attack Ukraine. Sorry this is not gonna fly
@@fletcher9778 it was not a coup. People protested peacefully and people were killed by Yanukovych. He tlen fled like a rat, putler annexed Crimea and provided weapons to traitors in the East. This is what happened. Even if this was a coup Zelensky was elected later so 2014 Maidan simply is irrelevant. May I know where are you from? How dare you talk about countries and events you have zero idea about
@@fletcher9778 delusional people who for some reason decided they can't move to Russia and instead they will rebel against their government and have their territory totally destroyed. They destroyed the future of many Ukrainians. No country can afford to leave their most resourceful part so of course Ukraine fight for it. On another hand, I gather you must be supporting people from Chechnya who don't want to be part of Russia, right?
@@MrFastFarmer it does matter. So naive and disrespectful towards Ukrainians. They deserve justice and reparations.
Let's hope the war doesn't last for years so that people can return to their homes
4:00 as someone who has had a major traumatic event that had irrevocably changed all of their lives...i so get what this Priest means by...a before and an after.....
A before.......❤
And an after.....💔😭
41:23 yes Son, it is the meaning of life ❤
So sad 😢
conflict in Ukraine??? a conflict?
Cheers for showing different view points. It's important to know what other people are thinking.
A dude who left Ukraine in 1992 can make a big sense and tells word in word russian propaganda?
25:52 Ukraine has never shelled own territory. russia shelled Donbass from the side in 2014 and was showing in tv to Donbass people that the shelling comes from Ukraine side.
This war needs to be stopped.
Sad
34:40 about flags, i think russians would risk to be taken by police or fsb if they hang ukrainian flag in the window
27:28 Priest "The more people that turn to Him, Jesus, the swifter this conflict will come to an end."
That sums it all up. Find God. Find Jesus. Find Holy Spirit. Find Peace with God and with man...this too shall pass. All of the atrocities, all of the pain, loss and sufferings are horrendous. I am so so sorry Ukraine! I am supporting you all in any way I possible can!
Stay Strong. Stay United! Stay Alive, we NEED you to Survive!
🇺🇦💪🏼(From 🇹🇼)
🤌🏻🫀
🙏🇺🇦💔
Doesn't Putin claim to believe in God? Did he forget about the Sixth Commandment ? I would love to be a witness when he stands before God on his judgment day.
It's good to see a nation united as one voice ☺️
Exactly! But those behind every government have their goals... If you know what I meant...
jeremy hodge
yeah it nice see all of you embrace communism, one-mind thinking encouraged and all of different opinion is to be shamed, only thing missing is for you become honest what you are, then I gladly Join the new USSR OF NATO but can not be part of that as long are dishonest.
As usual, DW news delivers a brilliant piece of journalism. Thank you, again, from Australia. The media in Australia have no idea what journalism really is.
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Humanty Brotherhood amongst populations & humanity emotions aren't acceptable of wars amongst neighborhoods...sorry for citizens suffering and bloodshed in trenching...Ukraine government is responsible for humanity suffering 😢 😕 😞 💔 besides Russian government...How they allowed USA 🇺🇸 conspiracies working on their's countries...God prevents innocent citizens & sorry for citizens suffering
Glory to Ukraine!!!
This isn’t “conflict in Ukraine”. It’s Russian war in Ukraine
The only way is through dialogue, there is nothing that has no solution🙏🙏
Only way to peace is put more lead on Ruzki bois.
You can't reason with a dictatorship
So if someone grabs half of your home by force - what should the dialogue be about. How much of your home you might be allowed to keep?
@@jorgenlarsen775 Imagine that you have a big conflict in your own home and your wife starting to fight with you and doing some weird stuff, and say that from that moment the half of your home is her's, and countinue to fighting, but at the same time she trying to start a dialog with you to stop the conflict. What will you do ? And what will be seems logical ? Start to fighting agains her and not to use the words ? Okay, maybe she is weird, maybe crayze, maybe she lost her mind ... but! She trying to use words and start the conversation. So, now remember that our present is not just a conflict, is not just a fight, it's a war where civilian people dieing from bouth of the sides, they were had they dreams, familys, live and now they had nothing at all. So, it's not a problem to speak some words before the table no matter who is your opponent and how you are hate him. No amount of words can replace the human lives...
I wonder did her food addiction get worse because of the invasion? Or was she like that beforehand? Thoughts go out to the Ukrainian people.🙏
Russia regime starts the invasion of Ukraine it's a called the illegal invasion like US invasion of Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya & Lebanon also called the illegal invasion
so *now* Ukraine is European huh
😂 Good point.
Did you check the world map?
@@AnyaKush Geographically, Russia is a European country too. What Gabriel meant above is that Ukraine is not part of EU bloc. At the moment, Ukr regime and people has a russian mindset that need to get rid of, before being accepted in EU; Corruption,, human rights, diversity etc. It will take perhaps 20 years to go through the process of getting EU m'ship.
@@mimymar2215 You got all of this from 6 words? Good job
@@oleksandralaurent9659 thanks
The priest brings the brotherhood again. Like...why brothers with Russia? Why not with Poland? Why not with Moldova? Why the brotherhood must be applicable only to Russia.
Because he means brotherhood specifically for the 2 Slavic nations involved: Russians and Ukrainians
🙏For✡️Those🙏 Victims✝️ Of🙏 The☪️ Ideas🙏 Of☪️ Conflicts🙏 Inivitable✝️And🙏 Heartbreaking⚖️🛐
All of them seems rich and well. .. just saying
Lol. That’s because they are all living in the USA now
The key word being "seems"
It’s not their houses they’ve been filmed at.
NATO F16 to Ukraine
War is a bit….h!
Its disturbing how many psychopaths germany is hosting ....
я просто пару ошибок допустил я и без американской фамилии крут
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I don't watched dw films and reading the psyhilogics books about resentment and yoga technique
The devil reincarnated in this "person"
If u love ur nation that it also resides in u
The Russians in this movie are schmucks
29:00 29:23 Ukraine is a democratic state and there are many things to prove it , but the main one - we always elect President and Parliament . Had any russian person with age 20-25 seen other president than putler?
Features of democracy often include inclusiveness and equality, freedom from unwarranted governmental deprivation of the right to life and liberty. Civilian men in Ukraine don't have those rights, so their country isn't democratic
Russophobia😁😁
Shout out to the equal and brave 6 million Ukrainian women who fled and left behind their sons and husbands
They don’t have to fight if they don’t want to just like the men don’t
Should a mother leave her baby’s in a war zone or
@@webuyhouse8917 Nobody asks a woman if she has children or not. They are all free to leave. Conversely, a single father can try to cross with a baby and he will be stopped.
@@herekitty791 L
@@webuyhouse8917 L?
What they need is the truth,sadly they won't get that from our Western idiots in Politics or Media. The world needs peace and sadly we cannot have that in our Western World. It's time for change!
Eh, what?
Fact that this is still on Tube says it all ... if one needs truth they could not look for it in a worse place ...
DW, stop being bias. You're an entity lots of people turn to for information. The western world is destroying Ukraine not Russia. If you have stopped the unnecessary provocation against Russia, this wouldn't have happened.
Ryssä gonna Ryssä.
I agree
HOW ON EARTH is the western world destroying Ukraine?? The amount of Russian propaganda you're consuming is insane. NO COUNTRY SHOULD INVADE ANOTHER COUNTRY AND KILL THEM PERIOD NO MATTER WHAT
Russia evaded Ukraine, they have to pull out and nobody provoked anybody, Putin is doing this solely for his selfish interest
DW is the best 👌
They are gay
It all started 2014. not many cared then...
Russia's neighbours have been warning for years. Nobody listened.
Yes, that all started in 2014 when Russia decided that it has right to invade and make a neighbouring country its colony.
Ukraine isn't innocent either so.....
what's wrong with Ukraine?
Whoever blew up the pipeline ensured Germany can never return to Russia, and yet Germany side with Ukraine. Talk about a confused country… just like this confused film.
It's not an Ukraine war. It's between Russia Vs the USA.
Africa stands with a loyal Russian 🇷🇺 Friend right to self defend
From west Africa
🦅
Nice. Ask them how they like black people in Russia. Which is most racist country in the world. Russia hates Africans.
so you are from West Africa and you have no clue what colonialism is since you cheer the russian colonialism ...shame on you and people like you
Let’s see if you’re still saying that when you find out that PMC Wagner have been raping women in Mali and Central African Republic and stealing their resources.
wrong
Only NATO and usa responsible for this war.......🤔🤔
Nato did not invade Ukraine. Russia did.
Let’s go Russia
África stand with Russia🇲🇿🇲🇿✌🇷🇺🇷🇺
If so, shame on you
shall I cheer colonisation of your African countries by brits, french, germans, the same way you cheer russian colonisation of Ukraine? do you have brain at all?
Do you really believe Russian have less systemic racism to African than Western countries? Do you just want to release the anti-American sentiment by supporting Russia? 😊
Zero sympathy for the Ukraine
Because , Europe is civilized !
Europe and civilized in one sentence ... talk about a contradiction ... waw
@@LoyalToEden first and second world war started in so called civilized europe ! or shall we say Barbaric europe !
@@genghizkhan4612 If you would understand why they started in the first place ...
@@LoyalToEden Have you been to a war ? They should learn from history in the first place ! War is very nasty predicament ! when are we going to learn !