Thanks for the info, I was scheduled with my son for one of those hour long phone calls. I was a bit skeptical & after watching your video - even more so.
Thank you for this video. The initial phone call with an NCSA salesperson, I signed up for the hour-long phone call even though it was a too-good-to-be-true type of service. After researching the company on BBB, other web reviews and seeing your video, I canceled the phone call I had scheduled with them. I feel like I dodged a bullet on this one. Thank you for pulling back the curtain on companies such as this.
thanks for putting the warning out! Glad I dodged this scam. It's very weird that once you submit any personal information, you can't change or delete anything! Very sketchy
Everyone believes their kid is special. Some companies seize this with gurantees ect. Bottom line is you have to be a stand out to get recruited. No magic formula, no program can get around that.
thanks for the heads up. I was about to sign my daughter up for NCSA, but felt hesitant about the service. I was wondering if it was a money grab with minimal return.
I am so glad I dont have a problem telling a scammer to "f*** off", Last night, we had the "talk" to one of those guys for over an hour. he was soo nice talking to us, telling my daughter "you are an amazing soccer player, so weird that you haven't gotten any letter from a school yet, you should've gotten a few by now"... That's when I realize this is BS. This dude never seen my 14 y/o play, he has no idea how good or bad she is or what she needs to work on to get better..... anyways... after the presentation he asked in few words "which plan you want to choose", but he was very persistent, and noticed that he was getting a bit upset...... so then I looked at my wife and daughter.. and told them " just go downstairs and cut the chicken so I can start cooking"...... he got mad he even said" it seems that you dont care about your daughter's future" ... that's when my Peruvian instinct came out and told him to f*** off.
I agree. We got suckered in by NCSA. This is our first go-round through recruiting for hockey for my daughter. To say we got ripped off is an understatement. They're USELESS.
Hello, I honestly didn't understand your video because I don't know much English, but when I read the comments I realized it. So I'm just going to start playing football outside the USA (Mexico) and I'm going to graduate from high school. What advice would you give me and do you think I can play college football in the USA? good video 🥳👍
Yeah you definitely can, you need to make sure you get highlights from actual games. College coaches can’t take you seriously without film. So make sure someone films all of your games or pay someone to film your games. But you need a highlight tape to stand out to coaches
Thank you for your great advice! I was filling out my 8th grader son's Athletic clearance for high school and a NCSA window popped up as if it was part of the legit high school paperwork. Within half day we got caught in a 45 minutes long phone call and got set up for a second call ( on Mother's Day!!!). When this services are so quick to try to get you without leaving you the time to think it's always a concerning scam alert. BTW costs of membership were between 1800 - 6000+ dollars. The guy was calling from his home with a virtual background...
This is facts. They son’t know your kid from a can of paint. I received an invite from them about a camp to a D3 college. Never heard of the University & decided that my son would go as a 1st camp experience. My son wasn’t feeling the camp & the head coach didn’t know about route running. The coaches was surpised to even see a kid from my area.
We called this one woman from ncsa, and she put a lot of emphasis on the fact the kid was late and desperately needed to "catch up" and that the only way we could do that was by paying money for them. Tried to nicely hang up a couple times but she kept going on about how we could regret this many years into the future. Had to pretend I was wholeheartedly convinced before she let me hang up. Total scam, super weird.
I am a 9th grader swimmer and I was told I was behind the 8 ball saying I should have coach’s reaching out already. But coachs can’t reach out too you till after your 10th grade year (for swimming idk about other sports). It is weird and I really believe they just want the money. P.S. I know this a football channel and I’m a swimmer I was varsity as a freshman. So idk what the difference is between sports experiences but they all are always trying to sell you and just do your research.
Hey I just have a question, I got a call from NCSA yesterday explaining their recruiting service, and etc. I was thinking about it until I watched your video on youtube, so I told them like hey i’m going to cancel on the meeting on sunday. That’s until I asked how much the service would cost and they said it wouldn’t cost anything, it just allows college coaches to notice you. What should i do?
So honestly they do that so they can just get your info, then sell it off to colleges and then you will get these spam emails from schools you have never heard of claiming that you have been “invited” to their camp. When thousands got the same email. They do that so they can then pitch you on the service that costs, this is my experience with it. If you want to do it, fine but I don’t think it’s needed
Exactly those recruitment sites are not the way to go. The fact is most athletes end up D3 so why waste the money, and you are right no one is going to promote a player who can’t cut it , because it cheapens a legit player later on.
Thank you I was just about to sign my daughter up. She’s a high school varsity volleyball player. The lady told me to sign up the MVP+ package $445 a month a total of $8,022
Hey coach, I am a soccer player from Pakistan, as I want to better my chances of competing at the highest level, I want to play college soccer in the US (as my academics are strong). In my research, the four-letter service reached out to me multiple times about what they could offer. As I don't know a lot about the process and don't really have a lot of leads, what would you do in my situation as an athlete?
So honestly man, I probably wouldn’t be the best player to ask about soccer. I think playing club soccer is important from what I’ve heard from other soccer coaches and guys who I have trained that have played. And I would reach out to a club coach, he can help you better than I can
Hey Coach, your content is outstanding. This is another example of how you are helping student athletes make good decisions on and off the field. I know you'll be in Philly this year, but do you have any plans on coming to New Jersey in the near future?
Appreciate you man, thank you very much for the support! So we do not this year- in 2025 we will, closest spot this year is Philly like you mentioned. Here is the info link below www.firstdowntraining.com/service-page/philadelphia-pa-qb-wr-camp?referral=service_list_widget
So one of the Ncsa workers called me when I signed up for a club in my district and they basically scanned me into paying 2K is there anyway I could get a refund or help?
Hey coach I'm a 13 year old who wants to play college football and possibly in the NFL and I was wondering how I could get recruited without using those recruit apps
Just need to be a baller man. At the end of the day that’s what really matters. Like if you’re THAT good, I’m talking D1 level and potential NFL, it is so damn noticeable. Everyone will use the excuse of “oh well I’m from a small town” - even if you’re from a small town and you have a highlight tape that shows you can make those types of D1 level plays, coaches will know about you. I recommend making a Twitter account and posting content there to get a social media presence, follow college coaches and interact with coaches on the app. All it takes is one coach or scout to see you and it changes everything. But the social media stuff doesn’t matter if you don’t have the skills to back it up
@@firstdowntraining Coach..if I make a twitter and post my highlights what hashtags would I use? Would I @ any coaches or schools? I don’t know much about twitter or getting recruited..thanks
@@firstdowntrainingthey took $178 last month and charged it again even after I cancelled the card. I’m waiting for a refund. I could not cancel my account so I changed names and blocked unsubscribed. They are scammers. I called and the lady was rude. She said I signed and I can check in four months and they can take a lower payment. She was rude. I called her out and said they are scammers. She was offended. I hung up after I told her we are no longer interested and we don’t have the money.
Fair question- figured someone would eventually have it. My job is development which is something these recruiting services don’t do. “Hey son you have potential pay a couple grand for us to do nothing but we will get you recruited” and maybe they tell the athlete “hey you need to get faster or bigger” but do they do anything to help in that process? Nope. Do I, yep. So if a kid comes to me, I don’t turn them down my job is to make them a better football player and I give their parents EXACTLY what they pay for. I don’t make promises I don’t keep- they come to me to get better and for me to help them get better at a skill so they don’t have to pay for college or whatever their goal is. My problem with recruiting services is they talk a big game, but don’t deliver. And they couldn’t deliver on every kid because some kids need to develop. But they won’t say “hey I don’t want your money because you aren’t good enough yet- work on xyz and then come back and we can talk because we only promote guys who are good enough right now”. Which is what most college coaches go to. They go to a CREDIBLE source, not someone who takes everyone known to man and sometimes 13yr olds who haven’t even hit puberty yet and claim to “get them recruited”. Cmon now, you know it’s a different business.
@@firstdowntraining they provide a service same as linked in or indeed for athletes , both have free and paid services , there more that have gained exposure from this than not.if the talent is there and your in a place where recruiters probably wouldn't see you , what are you going to deliver with a 2 day camp ? Nobody going to get better or faster in 2 days , what do you expect them to deliver it's a application service.liie indeed does your application stand out or not , most are not cut out the ones that are benefit from it , like your camp
@@firstdowntraining you claim to get players better , how do you measure that ? What's the metrics and data ? There is none , 2 day camp out of state and never to see or hear from most of them again , I know people personally that use it and have gotten visits , free camps invites , and offers not ever one but enough
@@firstdowntraining come.on bro you know them 2 day camps.are.not doing anything for any one , you never going to see or hear from most of this again and you know the majority don't have the physical attributes, you gasing ,
@@firstdowntraining what's the data to measure getting better in 2 days ? 4 hour 😤 come.on brah , you never turned down anybody even though you know your 2 day camp is not getting them a scholarship you another thing that apart of the system , college recruiting sites , trainers , 7v7 , youth football it's all apart of the industry's
I got a call yesterday and it went well, until i was told i have to pay $3000 for them to help get me recruited. I hung up and blocked the number and after watching your video I can be fully satisfied in saying I made the right decision. So if this is a scam what is the REAL way to make it in collage soccer? and how are these top people making it to D1 schools
So honestly man, I’m not a soccer guy in an sense of the sport. However I think the club team you play on and the tournaments you play on is how you get recruited. This is just what I’ve heard, I could be completely wrong because like I said- I’m not a soccer guy
Going to be really close this year in Houston TX! Here is the info below www.firstdowntraining.com/service-page/houston-texas-qb-wr-camp?referral=service_list_widget
They offered my kid a Free Membership based on the story I told of his past. Any harm if it’s free? Seems like a LinkedIn kinda thing. LinkedIn won’t get me a job but at least all my stuff in one place. Totally new to this recruiting world though and really appreciate the video.
The free membership is fine.. but I’ll tell you what will happen… you will get a bunch of spam emails claiming you have been “invited” to xyz camp and it’s not a real invite. Thousands of players got the same email so just beware. Could it be good to attend some of the camps, maybe but your info is now on a list that was sent out to a bunch of organizations and colleges. So just know that going in and you will be fine
@@firstdowntraining Excellent heads up. We can be choosy about camps. How do we spot a quality camp then? We live a bike ride from UO so we plan to attend what we can there for sure. I suppose this will also be a good time to teach the kid about “Unsubscribe” and email filters for his inbox. Haha.
Thanks for the info, I was scheduled with my son for one of those hour long phone calls. I was a bit skeptical & after watching your video - even more so.
No problem at all, glad this could give you some insight!
Thank you for this video. The initial phone call with an NCSA salesperson, I signed up for the hour-long phone call even though it was a too-good-to-be-true type of service. After researching the company on BBB, other web reviews and seeing your video, I canceled the phone call I had scheduled with them. I feel like I dodged a bullet on this one. Thank you for pulling back the curtain on companies such as this.
No problem at all, thank you for watching! Glad this could help you
thanks for putting the warning out! Glad I dodged this scam.
It's very weird that once you submit any personal information, you can't change or delete anything! Very sketchy
Everyone believes their kid is special. Some companies seize this with gurantees ect. Bottom line is you have to be a stand out to get recruited. No magic formula, no program can get around that.
100% agree- thank you for the insight!
Great info brother! This is a very emotional time for families and it seems some people want to capitalize on it.
Appreciate you sir, thank you very much for watching and I hope this was able to help!
Very informative and makes alot of sense. Really hard to get kids recruited out of Alaska.
Appreciate you sir, hope this could help! Thank you for watching
Great info. As a parent of a student athlete I appreciate this video.
Appreciate you! Thank you for watching and I’m glad this was able to give you some value
Lol man this video is right on time
Awesome to hear man, hope this was able to help you!
thanks for the heads up. I was about to sign my daughter up for NCSA, but felt hesitant about the service. I was wondering if it was a money grab with minimal return.
Glad this was able to help!
I am so glad I dont have a problem telling a scammer to "f*** off", Last night, we had the "talk" to one of those guys for over an hour. he was soo nice talking to us, telling my daughter "you are an amazing soccer player, so weird that you haven't gotten any letter from a school yet, you should've gotten a few by now"... That's when I realize this is BS. This dude never seen my 14 y/o play, he has no idea how good or bad she is or what she needs to work on to get better..... anyways... after the presentation he asked in few words "which plan you want to choose", but he was very persistent, and noticed that he was getting a bit upset...... so then I looked at my wife and daughter.. and told them " just go downstairs and cut the chicken so I can start cooking"...... he got mad he even said" it seems that you dont care about your daughter's future" ... that's when my Peruvian instinct came out and told him to f*** off.
I agree. We got suckered in by NCSA. This is our first go-round through recruiting for hockey for my daughter. To say we got ripped off is an understatement. They're USELESS.
how so? did you try to cancel or anything?
Just had 'recruiting' chat with NCSA - your video is spot on. Should have watched it before and wouldn't have wasted 1.5 hours :)
Thank you very much for sharing and watching!
Just canceled a meeting because of this video thank you
No problem at all, glad we could give you some insight on this.
I have meeting this Saturday, I will cancel too , thanks .
Dang, I canceled a meeting because of this comment on this video (and everyone else's comment after watching this video)!
Hello, I honestly didn't understand your video because I don't know much English, but when I read the comments I realized it. So I'm just going to start playing football outside the USA (Mexico) and I'm going to graduate from high school. What advice would you give me and do you think I can play college football in the USA?
good video 🥳👍
Yeah you definitely can, you need to make sure you get highlights from actual games. College coaches can’t take you seriously without film. So make sure someone films all of your games or pay someone to film your games. But you need a highlight tape to stand out to coaches
Thank you for your great advice! I was filling out my 8th grader son's Athletic clearance for high school and a NCSA window popped up as if it was part of the legit high school paperwork. Within half day we got caught in a 45 minutes long phone call and got set up for a second call ( on Mother's Day!!!). When this services are so quick to try to get you without leaving you the time to think it's always a concerning scam alert. BTW costs of membership were between 1800 - 6000+ dollars. The guy was calling from his home with a virtual background...
No problem at all, glad this could help you!
This is facts. They son’t know your kid from a can of paint. I received an invite from them about a camp to a D3 college. Never heard of the University & decided that my son would go as a 1st camp experience. My son wasn’t feeling the camp & the head coach didn’t know about route running. The coaches was surpised to even see a kid from my area.
100% agree- I’ve been told this same story probably 100 times and it honestly bums me out.
@@firstdowntraining so you mad because you not feeling a college camp ? you would have found it otherwise
Bro, I’m being so serious right now thank you so much. You actually helped me. I was about to get scammed.
Appreciate you man, glad this could help!
Do you have any drills to be able to catch contested balls better as a WR
Yessir if you search up “first down training how to catch 50/50 balls” we have some videos there!
@@firstdowntraining Thank you, this was a big help
We called this one woman from ncsa, and she put a lot of emphasis on the fact the kid was late and desperately needed to "catch up" and that the only way we could do that was by paying money for them. Tried to nicely hang up a couple times but she kept going on about how we could regret this many years into the future. Had to pretend I was wholeheartedly convinced before she let me hang up. Total scam, super weird.
That what we just had! Same thing saying my 9th grade sons were behind
@@ashleyburrell505same for me
I am a 9th grader swimmer and I was told I was behind the 8 ball saying I should have coach’s reaching out already. But coachs can’t reach out too you till after your 10th grade year (for swimming idk about other sports). It is weird and I really believe they just want the money.
P.S. I know this a football channel and I’m a swimmer I was varsity as a freshman. So idk what the difference is between sports experiences but they all are always trying to sell you and just do your research.
Hey I just have a question, I got a call from NCSA yesterday explaining their recruiting service, and etc. I was thinking about it until I watched your video on youtube, so I told them like hey i’m going to cancel on the meeting on sunday. That’s until I asked how much the service would cost and they said it wouldn’t cost anything, it just allows college coaches to notice you. What should i do?
Run away. As someone who got ripped off for a few thousand dollars last year. They're fucking useless.
So honestly they do that so they can just get your info, then sell it off to colleges and then you will get these spam emails from schools you have never heard of claiming that you have been “invited” to their camp. When thousands got the same email. They do that so they can then pitch you on the service that costs, this is my experience with it. If you want to do it, fine but I don’t think it’s needed
Exactly those recruitment sites are not the way to go. The fact is most athletes end up D3 so why waste the money, and you are right no one is going to promote a player who can’t cut it , because it cheapens a legit player later on.
100% and these companies don’t actually do any promotion
Thank you I was just about to sign my daughter up. She’s a high school varsity volleyball player. The lady told me to sign up the MVP+ package $445 a month a total of $8,022
Absolutely ridiculous!
We also did the 1 hour long meeting., but what i dont understand is NCSA is it a scam or genuine. is it the right route to take or not.
please help
Personally I don’t think it is. Don’t know if you watched the whole video on this but that is my personal opinion.
How does one cancel the payments with NCSA ? I think they are a scam.
Not a scam you have to know how to use the services
Hey coach,
I am a soccer player from Pakistan, as I want to better my chances of competing at the highest level, I want to play college soccer in the US (as my academics are strong). In my research, the four-letter service reached out to me multiple times about what they could offer. As I don't know a lot about the process and don't really have a lot of leads, what would you do in my situation as an athlete?
So honestly man, I probably wouldn’t be the best player to ask about soccer. I think playing club soccer is important from what I’ve heard from other soccer coaches and guys who I have trained that have played. And I would reach out to a club coach, he can help you better than I can
@@firstdowntraining Alright, I got it.
Thanks for the response!
@@firstdowntraining can you pls get me in contact with him, i really need his help
Hey Coach, your content is outstanding. This is another example of how you are helping student athletes make good decisions on and off the field.
I know you'll be in Philly this year, but do you have any plans on coming to New Jersey in the near future?
Appreciate you man, thank you very much for the support! So we do not this year- in 2025 we will, closest spot this year is Philly like you mentioned. Here is the info link below
www.firstdowntraining.com/service-page/philadelphia-pa-qb-wr-camp?referral=service_list_widget
I got a invite and I play baseball do you think I should do it
No I wouldn’t-if you’re talking about NCSA I would avoid
So one of the Ncsa workers called me when I signed up for a club in my district and they basically scanned me into paying 2K is there anyway I could get a refund or help?
Hey coach I'm a 13 year old who wants to play college football and possibly in the NFL and I was wondering how I could get recruited without using those recruit apps
Just need to be a baller man. At the end of the day that’s what really matters. Like if you’re THAT good, I’m talking D1 level and potential NFL, it is so damn noticeable. Everyone will use the excuse of “oh well I’m from a small town” - even if you’re from a small town and you have a highlight tape that shows you can make those types of D1 level plays, coaches will know about you. I recommend making a Twitter account and posting content there to get a social media presence, follow college coaches and interact with coaches on the app. All it takes is one coach or scout to see you and it changes everything. But the social media stuff doesn’t matter if you don’t have the skills to back it up
@@firstdowntraining Thank you, I will definitely continue to work on my skills
@@firstdowntraining Coach..if I make a twitter and post my highlights what hashtags would I use? Would I @ any coaches or schools? I don’t know much about twitter or getting recruited..thanks
So I understand the video do u have any recruiting apps I could do that would possibly let me get looked at
We do have something for recruiting! Here is the info
firstdowncoaching.com/membership-checkout/?pmpro_level=4
You should come to Alaska next year
That would be a lot of fun, gotta go in the summer 😂
Yea it’s pretty cold 😂
Hello sir my friend is in contact with the NCSA and they ask $2960 before find him the right school for soccer. I need your help.
Yeah I wouldn’t do that, not worth it
@@firstdowntrainingthey took $178 last month and charged it again even after I cancelled the card. I’m waiting for a refund. I could not cancel my account so I changed names and blocked unsubscribed. They are scammers. I called and the lady was rude. She said I signed and I can check in four months and they can take a lower payment. She was rude. I called her out and said they are scammers. She was offended. I hung up after I told her we are no longer interested and we don’t have the money.
How do you go pro in the U.S then?
If you search up “first down training overseas players” on UA-cam we have some content there!
What about Internacional students looking for scholarships?
If you search up “first down training how international players can get offers” we posted a video on that 2 weeks ago! Will help a lot
do you turn down customers ? or do you tell every kid that come to you they have the potential
Fair question- figured someone would eventually have it. My job is development which is something these recruiting services don’t do. “Hey son you have potential pay a couple grand for us to do nothing but we will get you recruited” and maybe they tell the athlete “hey you need to get faster or bigger” but do they do anything to help in that process? Nope. Do I, yep. So if a kid comes to me, I don’t turn them down my job is to make them a better football player and I give their parents EXACTLY what they pay for. I don’t make promises I don’t keep- they come to me to get better and for me to help them get better at a skill so they don’t have to pay for college or whatever their goal is. My problem with recruiting services is they talk a big game, but don’t deliver. And they couldn’t deliver on every kid because some kids need to develop. But they won’t say “hey I don’t want your money because you aren’t good enough yet- work on xyz and then come back and we can talk because we only promote guys who are good enough right now”. Which is what most college coaches go to. They go to a CREDIBLE source, not someone who takes everyone known to man and sometimes 13yr olds who haven’t even hit puberty yet and claim to “get them recruited”. Cmon now, you know it’s a different business.
@@firstdowntraining they provide a service same as linked in or indeed for athletes , both have free and paid services , there more that have gained exposure from this than not.if the talent is there and your in a place where recruiters probably wouldn't see you , what are you going to deliver with a 2 day camp ? Nobody going to get better or faster in 2 days , what do you expect them to deliver it's a application service.liie indeed does your application stand out or not , most are not cut out the ones that are benefit from it , like your camp
@@firstdowntraining you claim to get players better , how do you measure that ? What's the metrics and data ? There is none , 2 day camp out of state and never to see or hear from most of them again , I know people personally that use it and have gotten visits , free camps invites , and offers not ever one but enough
@@firstdowntraining come.on bro you know them 2 day camps.are.not doing anything for any one , you never going to see or hear from most of this again and you know the majority don't have the physical attributes, you gasing ,
@@firstdowntraining what's the data to measure getting better in 2 days ? 4 hour 😤 come.on brah , you never turned down anybody even though you know your 2 day camp is not getting them a scholarship you another thing that apart of the system , college recruiting sites , trainers , 7v7 , youth football it's all apart of the industry's
Wish I would have seen this before wasting a bunch of money.
I just did the interview today watched a bunch of videos and I just asked for a refund
We haven’t paid anything tho
I got a call yesterday and it went well, until i was told i have to pay $3000 for them to help get me recruited. I hung up and blocked the number and after watching your video I can be fully satisfied in saying I made the right decision. So if this is a scam what is the REAL way to make it in collage soccer? and how are these top people making it to D1 schools
So honestly man, I’m not a soccer guy in an sense of the sport. However I think the club team you play on and the tournaments you play on is how you get recruited. This is just what I’ve heard, I could be completely wrong because like I said- I’m not a soccer guy
Hey just curious, was the call you got from NCSA?
@@davidwilson6651 yes.
Lafayette please
Going to be really close this year in Houston TX! Here is the info below
www.firstdowntraining.com/service-page/houston-texas-qb-wr-camp?referral=service_list_widget
Thank you for the video. Super helpful
No problem at all, really glad this could help!
Anchorage, Alaska
I just made the first payment
why did you sign up seriously
@spedkick2000 i was able to cancel the following day. I made a decision before doing research. But was able to save it
They offered my kid a Free Membership based on the story I told of his past. Any harm if it’s free? Seems like a LinkedIn kinda thing. LinkedIn won’t get me a job but at least all my stuff in one place. Totally new to this recruiting world though and really appreciate the video.
The free membership is fine.. but I’ll tell you what will happen… you will get a bunch of spam emails claiming you have been “invited” to xyz camp and it’s not a real invite. Thousands of players got the same email so just beware. Could it be good to attend some of the camps, maybe but your info is now on a list that was sent out to a bunch of organizations and colleges. So just know that going in and you will be fine
@@firstdowntraining Excellent heads up. We can be choosy about camps. How do we spot a quality camp then? We live a bike ride from UO so we plan to attend what we can there for sure. I suppose this will also be a good time to teach the kid about “Unsubscribe” and email filters for his inbox. Haha.
Thank you for this information!
Dang bro
They are a complete scam
You said it, not me 😂