Vintage Winnebago hard to source parts. Very scary brake rotors.

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  • @bertonfeuchtwanger9779
    @bertonfeuchtwanger9779 Рік тому +7

    Scott,
    Great job helping these people out. If the motor home people find out about you, you will be flooded with work.
    I agree with several other commenters the the owners of these large motor homes should go thru some sort of training before hitting the road so they don’t smoke the brakes when going down mountains.
    Slowing down and using a lower gear to allow the engine help with braking is a concept many folks don’t understand.
    I love your content and the honest way you conduct your business.

  • @admranger
    @admranger Рік тому +2

    I always recommend a "float test" if you're unsure whether a brake component is good or not. A "float test" involves tossing the component into the nearest body of water. If it floats, it's a good part. If it doesn't...

  • @donmoore7785
    @donmoore7785 Рік тому +25

    Those rotors were a horrible accident waiting to happen. Nice job.

    • @joec9680
      @joec9680 Рік тому +3

      You say this but when have you ever seen a rotor that visually looks this way come apart or cause an accident. I’ve only seen the rotor face separate from the hat which that could definitely cause an accident. Those rotors were damaged because one or more drivers where abusing the brakes or just don’t know how to handle a rig that size. I’m gonna say that mountain probably taught the owner a valuable lesson. So the driver was a accident waiting to happen not the rotors.

    • @nelsonhernandez2513
      @nelsonhernandez2513 Рік тому +2

      I’ve actually almost been in an accident driving a roll back with 2 cars on it and brake rotor broke off the hub part was coming off the expressway to a red light thankfully not going to fast😢

    • @soapflakes
      @soapflakes Рік тому

      @@joec9680 The rig is going back to the same driver, after all, one more trip down a mountain like he did it before and this thing would have let go completely, surely. It’s a chicken-egg thing, y’know 😂

  • @donw3912
    @donw3912 Рік тому +5

    They got super crazy lucky one of those rotors didn't come apart with those huge cracks.
    As for older rigs...parts sourcing can be a royal pain regardless of what you are working on. But it's a super feeling when you get the rig back together and the test drive goes without a hitch.
    Great job as always Scott and Co. 🙂

  • @tonyrobinson4434
    @tonyrobinson4434 Рік тому +15

    Wow, lucky the rotors never shattered.

  • @mikehill9888
    @mikehill9888 Рік тому +6

    Great feeling that motor home owners have a place that is trustworthy. Great videos 💯

  • @johnny22single99
    @johnny22single99 Рік тому +1

    ABSOLIUTELY---------->>>>>>>>>> OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!. 🙂

  • @MikeyMack303
    @MikeyMack303 Рік тому

    It's great that you have video documentation of your repairs.

  • @pcspecialistpdx
    @pcspecialistpdx Рік тому +3

    I'm glad my old motorhome is on a Freightliner chassis. I have no problem getting parts.

    • @davidhughes5564
      @davidhughes5564 Рік тому

      Spartan may have had an issue but remember they are altogether the Cadillac of chassis manufacturers in the industry outclassing Freightliner because they listen to the customers and you do well to remember this particular unit is of the 90 vintage so that is over 20 years old!

    • @pcspecialistpdx
      @pcspecialistpdx Рік тому +1

      @@davidhughes5564 outclassed Freightliner but my 90s vintage Freightliner chassis is super easy to get parts for.

  • @J.R.in_WV
    @J.R.in_WV Рік тому +1

    Those 16” wheels look scary small on an RV that size, I think I’d be going to 19.5” Alcoas as soon as possible….the money you’d save in tire life would pay for it in 100k miles

  • @raykaufman7156
    @raykaufman7156 Рік тому +2

    Holy crap, you can get bigger brakes on a 1/2 ton pickup nowadays....
    They need a lot more swept area!

  • @charlescooney6900
    @charlescooney6900 Рік тому

    It's good to see Mikie get his motorhome fixed up right. Those brakes were realty bad good lord.

  • @charlessoule8587
    @charlessoule8587 Рік тому +3

    Those rotors will buff right out😂

  • @mariodagenais6625
    @mariodagenais6625 Рік тому +1

    Good job Scott and your team !!!

  • @greggsvintageworkshop8974
    @greggsvintageworkshop8974 Рік тому

    Nice work Scott! I wish you could send some rain up to northern Illinois! We have been in drought condition now almost two months! Grass is dying and the farmers crops are not doing well. Take care!

  • @CleanteamofNY
    @CleanteamofNY Рік тому

    Dang, those rotors are gone. I'm glad they didn't get into an accident.

  • @davidowen888
    @davidowen888 Рік тому +4

    More cracks in those rotors than the grand canyon 😮

  • @jw4620
    @jw4620 Рік тому

    Another good video, but that bearing at 15.58 really popped my eyes open! Wow!

  • @dorsk84
    @dorsk84 Рік тому +12

    I'm more surprised that a vehicle has breaks that small. Never mind the cracks.

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 Рік тому +2

      The ones on the fire chassis are (rightfully) formidable, but add to that the exhaust braking on there is fairly effective. Still have to mind your speed, but the exhaust brake really holds you back at a good bit over reasonable speeds.
      Also mind you that RV’s are fairly light given their size.
      As well, the tiny wheels and tiny tires don’t really allow rotors of any considerable size. Seems the body manufacturer (Winnebago was it?) is kinda liable for requiring undersized wheels, ergo brakes.

    • @Cemi_Mhikku
      @Cemi_Mhikku Рік тому +4

      @@jaysmith1408 Winnebago is really bad for that, or was back in this era. Was a guy in my auto class back in high school who's family was apparently lucky if they only had one blowout a trip because of the undersized wheels and tires on theirs. He was the second youngest so around the time he went to college they just sold the damn thing. And yeah, that's blowouts, plural in the radial era.

    • @jetdriver
      @jetdriver Рік тому +4

      @@Cemi_Mhikku there was a period where a lot of motorhomes were being sold with Goodyear tires that were designs for intercity truck use. On the highway they would overheat and blow. So it may not have been undersized it could have been the tire being used.

    • @brainfreeze44131
      @brainfreeze44131 Рік тому +2

      They sure do look small. I was thinking that either the rear brakes are not adjusted correctly and didn't help with stopping. They had to much weight. Like towing a car or adding items to the interior.

    • @gullreefclub
      @gullreefclub Рік тому +1

      @@Cemi_Mhikku Winnebago did all there brake requirement calculations for flat level ground as well as spec’ing part by cost and not by need. Lastly Winniebago designed all their vehicles to be able to be driven with a passenger car drivers license so sepc’ing parts to meet à specific GVW was a high build priority

  • @BlackPill-pu4vi
    @BlackPill-pu4vi Рік тому +1

    I had my fun with vintage cars and gave it up a few years ago. I always preferred the non-collector cars as they actually stood out! My last vintage car was a '78 Buick Electra 225. That was a great car and wonderful to drive. But, getting parts was very difficult. I needed a radiator and NAPA had only ONE in its entire inventory! Body parts and interior stuff is just about impossible to get.
    The Buick 350 has its own parts supply problems as well. One of the lifters was collapsed and it also needed a new camshaft. After discovering that aftermarket camshafts actually degraded the performance, getting a real OEM camshaft took a month and a local vintage car mechanic helped me find the only ONE in existence. Oddly enough, the smog camshaft for those engines was far superior to the performance grinds I thought would be better. Some of those cars came with an Olds 403 and that engine is still easy to get parts for.

    • @777jones
      @777jones Рік тому

      Good story! I somewhat enjoy that type of parts hunting. You can usually find what you need. Usually but not always.

    • @eaglewi
      @eaglewi Рік тому

      Why couldn't you get a custom grind

    • @BlackPill-pu4vi
      @BlackPill-pu4vi Рік тому

      @@eaglewi The Buick 350 doesn't have the variety of stuff that most other engines have. I did have a semi-performance grind put on that engine when the original cam and lifters were being replaced. It was made by a shop that sells Buick specific performance parts and that cam was a DOG in my engine. Even with an adjustable cam sprocket that let the mechanic fine tune it.
      The OEM **smog** cam generated very high vacuum and that late 70's Malaise engine perked right up with it. Go figure! BTW, I flat-out gave the performance cam to the mechanic and told him to give it to a friend of his who has Buick muscle cars and see if he can do something with it. I was just glad to get the Malaise engine running strong again.

  • @Alberto-VO5
    @Alberto-VO5 Рік тому +4

    Very good video ❤

  • @jimp.7286
    @jimp.7286 Рік тому +2

    Wow. Maybe the rotor crack acts like a heat channel or slot. You know,...like the ones on racing disks, lol. More likely,...someone has an angel working overtime. Whew. You'd probably be in big trouble out west on some of the big mountain passes. Time for a brake job alright.

  • @lrdisco2005
    @lrdisco2005 Рік тому +1

    In the uk they have multiple system, air over hydraulic, propshaft brake and exhaust brake, last resort hand brake. A manual gearbox would also help.

    • @r2db
      @r2db Рік тому +2

      An actual manual transmission, not an "automated manual" or automatic, is getting more and more rare in the US even in the tractor trailers. Lots of owner-operators still want manual transmissions, but we have gotten killed between low freight rates and high fuel prices over the last year. The huge companies are all buying automatics and hiring drivers who are restricted to automatic only. In terms of passenger vehicles, unless you are buying an expensive sportscar you can't buy a new manual transmission vehicle.

  • @ronharrison1776
    @ronharrison1776 Рік тому

    very nice older coach .

  • @ericheld4382
    @ericheld4382 Рік тому

    That rotor was one hard stop from coming apart.

  • @bryancooper2699
    @bryancooper2699 Рік тому

    Another satisfied customer

  • @garymuszynski1141
    @garymuszynski1141 Рік тому

    Thats scary damage , glad they are ok . On a mountain is no time for failure .

  • @craigschenk729
    @craigschenk729 Рік тому +1

    Another great job!

  • @garyharrington5300
    @garyharrington5300 Рік тому

    When you mentioned the washout it looks to be next to the chirt pile👍

  • @miked9104
    @miked9104 Рік тому

    I had a chance to own a diesel Vectra many years ago. I regret passing on the opportunity.

  • @craigsowers8456
    @craigsowers8456 Рік тому +1

    Those cracks help shave the pads evenly ... LOL

  • @DrDiff952
    @DrDiff952 Рік тому +1

    Boy did those get hot

  • @brianbrwa
    @brianbrwa Рік тому

    For the future if you get a rollerskate like this, insist that they have the vgt engine brake turned on in the ECU. i get memories of Miami Dade and their Blue Birds. Half way through the intersection before they'd finally come to a stop.

  • @danwesterberg3956
    @danwesterberg3956 Рік тому

    just a question about the spray foamed shop and all the solar panels, do the panels produce enough power to keep the shop cool and powered up?

  • @TX_Lawyer
    @TX_Lawyer Рік тому

    Do those older RV"S have Jakes?

  • @ducthman4737
    @ducthman4737 Рік тому

    Good Job. 🚌

  • @ivanolsen7966
    @ivanolsen7966 Рік тому

    6:45 might need to loose some ' trees' .... just say'n .... 7:49 .... we really get an idea of that hill ... looking down on the other bus

  • @paulthompson1654
    @paulthompson1654 Рік тому

    Pads were replaced with what , did u have a choice of compounds ??
    Were the calipers at least stripped down and inspected for any seizure /excessive drag ??

  • @rickl6697
    @rickl6697 Рік тому +1

    Great video Scott! What year was that Vectra Winnebago.

    • @BusGreaseMonkey
      @BusGreaseMonkey  Рік тому +7

      Year is 1993. Make is Winnebago Vectra Class A, and Engine is a 5.9 12-valve All-Manual Turbo Cummins; 37' long Diesel Pusher.

  • @timf6916
    @timf6916 Рік тому

    Good job

  • @GNX157
    @GNX157 Рік тому

    Scott, what is your assessment of the cause for what happened? Were the fronts doing all the work because the rears weren’t contributing? Was the driver not using engine braking? Or just driving too fast for the conditions? Do you foresee this recurring in the future?

  • @lloydrobinson7081
    @lloydrobinson7081 Рік тому

    keep the clips coming

  • @FTW523.
    @FTW523. Рік тому

    Wow who writes the songs

  • @Mr.XYZ6775
    @Mr.XYZ6775 Рік тому +1

    Is good.

  • @privateparty4900
    @privateparty4900 Рік тому

    5:52 Those LED headlights (floodlights) are the worst. They say "DOT" on them but I'm pretty sure you can put "DOT" on anything you want in a Chinese factory. They have two brightnesses but absolutely no cut-off for an asymmetric "low-beam"; they are just a flood light and can't possibly be legal.
    You can get glass housings that take H4 bulbs (either led or halogen), look original, and will actually give you a legal low-beam. They aren't quiet as cheap ($22-$27 plus bulbs) as these stupid things but at least you won't be blinding everyone else on the road.

  • @vincetoscano7018
    @vincetoscano7018 Рік тому

    Great catch. did they use there jake brakes?

    • @BusGreaseMonkey
      @BusGreaseMonkey  Рік тому +1

      It doesn’t have Jake brakes

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 Рік тому

      ​@@BusGreaseMonkey crazy that doesn't have any kind of engine braking

  • @fmccloud
    @fmccloud Рік тому +1

    I think it might be needed to hire someone that understands hydrology for your driveway.

    • @johngaither9263
      @johngaither9263 Рік тому

      As far as the driveway is concerned Scott does things Scott's way.

    • @fmccloud
      @fmccloud Рік тому +1

      @@johngaither9263 that’s fine, but he’ll have issues until he gets a professional to handle it

  • @tomtheplummer7322
    @tomtheplummer7322 Рік тому

    Oh my.

  • @tomtheplummer7322
    @tomtheplummer7322 Рік тому

    What, no engine braking?

  • @DEW409
    @DEW409 Рік тому +3

    Rotors look way too small for that rig. Used to drive a big class C motor home for a company that was built with Olds Toronodo power. I assume the rotors were same as the car. Brakes were so inadequate I could come up to a stop and mash the pedal and get only a normal stop. Always worried what would happen if something stopped in front of me. Driving in the mountains, no way with that thing.

  • @gullreefclub
    @gullreefclub Рік тому

    Unfortunately the cracks in brake discs/rotors is a fairly common problem. They are most often a result of either driver error resulting in the brakes to overheating. A vehicle that is overweight for its brakes, this can be due to poor design by the manufacturer or the operator of the vehicle stuffing 10 pounds in a 5 pound sack. Sadly the manufacturer is often to blame because they either underestimated a realistic load for a vehicle such as this or they chose the parts not based on the realistic need of the vehicle but rather on the cost the parts or weight of the parts so that they can make a certain GVW for the vehicle. Additionally the manufacturers of most vehicles also fail to include properly designed cooling ducts for disc brakes. Lastly the aftermarket accessories market can also be to blame by making simulators with vent holes that smaller than the oem steel wheels as well as improperly designed disc brakes dust shields (personally I think all disc brake shield are poorly designed.

    • @donf3877
      @donf3877 Рік тому

      The capacity of the braking system is one of the KEY determinations for the GVW (and whether or not U-Haul will rent you a car dolly). The problem isn't the braking system. Most people have NO idea how to drive. Be it a car, or a motorhome, or a semi... just laying your foot on the brake pedal and riding it all the way down a hill will overheat the brakes REGARDLESS of how "good" or "big" or "well designed" they are. I was taught "stab" braking, when I first learned how to drive semis (sadly, most don't teach it anymore, which is why overheated brakes is an issue now). You downshift (most cars and motorhomes freewheel in overdrive), and decide on a speed. When it gets 5 MPH over the desired speed, stab the brake pedal HARD. I mean both feet on the pedal HARD. Then, get OFF the brakes, and let them open up so they can cool. I have NEVER overheated the brakes on anything EVER. It's just common sense... which is no longer common.

  • @ShainAndrews
    @ShainAndrews Рік тому +1

    The guy that killed all those people in Colorado with his run away semi.... He was convicted and received a healthy sentence. That is supposed to be the warning to other operators if you don't know your equipment and its limits then please do not operate it. Glowing rotors... that's 1300f territory.

  • @mischef18
    @mischef18 Рік тому

    Very lucky the rotors never shattered just going on looks alone bro, can these auto trans motor homes use a lower gear when descending hills or is there engine retarders for that purpose. Safe travels.

    • @donf3877
      @donf3877 Рік тому

      They sure can. Problem is, most people don't know to do it. The overdrive on most of them FREEWHEEL. They need to put it in 3rd, or even 2nd. Then use stab braking. Downshift and decide a speed. When it gets 5 MPH over that speed, stab the brake pedal HARD. I mean two feet on the pedal HARD. Then... get OFF the brakes and let them cool. I drove semis and motorhomes down some pretty hairy hills. I NEVER overheated the brakes EVER. This guy just got his foot on the brake pedal at the top of the hill, and was on the brakes the whole way down. "I'm retired now, so I'm gonna buy a big motorhome and see the country". No idea HOW to drive it.

  • @hughm5996
    @hughm5996 Рік тому +1

    Takes about 300 miles to wear in new pads and rotors to achieve proper braking. Hopefully He babies them for the first 300 miles or so or he’ll be back claiming warranty for warped rotors or squealing pads.

  • @VanaConn
    @VanaConn Рік тому

    HOLY CRACK !! Scary

  • @michelswerissen6544
    @michelswerissen6544 Рік тому

    Video approved, click.

  • @Torsee
    @Torsee Рік тому

    Did you ever contact Winnebago?
    They are supposedly very good with parts…maybe just the home part, not the motor.

  • @dgdynasty2149
    @dgdynasty2149 Рік тому

    Believe that Chapdog

  • @18robsmith
    @18robsmith Рік тому

    I ws expecting razor thin rotors, not monster cracks - really scary

  • @lrdisco2005
    @lrdisco2005 Рік тому

    Oucher!

  • @rickweissmann7101
    @rickweissmann7101 Рік тому

    OUCH!!!!!!!!!

  • @ahummerich2751
    @ahummerich2751 Рік тому

    Did that unit have a jake brake?

    • @goldwing2222
      @goldwing2222 Рік тому

      That is a gas model, the jake breaks or engine brake is only on the diesel models

    • @BusGreaseMonkey
      @BusGreaseMonkey  Рік тому +2

      It’s a cummins 12v diesel. No jake or exhaust brakes

    • @MrBirdnose
      @MrBirdnose Рік тому

      @@BusGreaseMonkey I normally drive a gasoline engine camper, and when I went on vacation I rented one that happened to have a diesel. I was shocked by how little engine braking the diesel provided. The lack of a throttle plate makes for a lot less resistance.

  • @roguedalek900
    @roguedalek900 Рік тому +3

    Ha ha they smoked their brakes coming into Knoxville going down Jelico . Made a million trips over Jelico with loaded semis never had any trouble.

    • @sw7366
      @sw7366 Рік тому +3

      I hate to be harsh, but having grown up driving heavy stuff with minimal brakes, I quickly learned that those who smoke brakes are driving way over their heads.

  • @fmccloud
    @fmccloud Рік тому +5

    The story really reinforces to me that people driving these large vehicles need to be trained and require licences to drive them. No way should the brakes be overheating, even down a mountain. Probably was dragging them the whole way.

    • @philhermetic
      @philhermetic Рік тому +1

      Ansolutely true! You need engine braking for steep descents so if it is an autobox with no engine braking you need a massively uprated braking system! Once had trouble going over the Swiss alps in a bus! Scary stuff on elevated hairpins! Those brakes were an accident waiting to happen!
      Phil

    • @oldblueaccord2629
      @oldblueaccord2629 Рік тому +3

      They look way small for that size vehicle to me.

    • @adamr9215
      @adamr9215 Рік тому +2

      If you think that smaller vehicles are maintained any better, then you are delusional. RV’s aren’t a 1/10th of the problem that the average Honda is.

    • @lrdisco2005
      @lrdisco2005 Рік тому

      ​@@adamr9215 10 times the mass of a car, that's a lot of energy to overcome.

    • @adamr9215
      @adamr9215 Рік тому

      @@lrdisco2005 People die every day in accidents that don’t involve buses. It doesn’t take a bus to kill everyone in a car. A scooter once caused a 19 car pileup with 23 fatalities. If you really think that only big vehicles are dangerous, then your parents must be brother and sister. You really are just showing how stupid you are.

  • @chrisrumble2665
    @chrisrumble2665 Рік тому

    The brakes seem too small for the vehicle.

  • @christopherwilliams4647
    @christopherwilliams4647 Рік тому +2

    should have had the machine cross drill them as well. I'm sure that'd help with the heat

  • @charlescumens6294
    @charlescumens6294 Рік тому +1

    Does that motorhome have a jake brake and does the driver understand the importance of using it on steep downgrades

  • @jimpfennigs9410
    @jimpfennigs9410 Рік тому

    What's with those mirrors!!

  • @dennymedeiros4504
    @dennymedeiros4504 Рік тому

    Did he not have an exhaust brake to save his brakes

  • @Mauscmkwk
    @Mauscmkwk Рік тому

    0:57 SAFETY the freaking rotor is CRACKED

  • @wazza33racer
    @wazza33racer Рік тому

    If you "ride" disc brake rotors down hills.......they will overheat and warp and then eventually crack. Might be time to fit an exhaust or engine brake. Heavy vehicles are not cars........they cant be thrown off hills without problems.

  • @williamwood6531
    @williamwood6531 Рік тому

    Did the owner not know to downshift the transmission when descenting the mountain? Obviously not relying on brakes alone would have been the solution!

  • @bigalejoshileno
    @bigalejoshileno Рік тому

    What a ripoff of the Kassbohrer Setra's front mask

  • @galegregory97comcast
    @galegregory97comcast Рік тому +1

    Well then breaks for bad I bet you could have hit it with a hammer in the shattered

    • @joec9680
      @joec9680 Рік тому +1

      I’d take that bet. No way your going shatter that. Especially if you can’t even put a proper sentence together.

  • @BorazCarrera
    @BorazCarrera Рік тому

    those headlights are an accident waiting to happen

  • @throttlebottle5906
    @throttlebottle5906 Рік тому

    I hate to say it, but some people shouldn't own, drive, nor maintain anything beyond a small compact size car and even that's very questionable. 😬🤯

  • @Torsee
    @Torsee Рік тому

    Those are the worst mirrors I’ve ever seen!
    Imagine at the camp site..clonk goes your head…

    • @BusGreaseMonkey
      @BusGreaseMonkey  Рік тому +2

      Not the worst from the drivers seat.

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 Рік тому

      They're pretty good mirrors, you're only looking at it from a aesthetics point of view, not a functional point of view.
      These mirrors provide a multi purpose, to act as your normal side view mirrors, as well as seeing the front corners, as well as to be able to see cars because there's a massive blind spot there.