Because those states don't execute murders smh. I always use Wisconsin as point of reference look how many serial killers, mass murders and homicidal wack jobs are produced in that state. And they all live long and healthy lives no way is that okay. Do you think Darrell Brooks or even a Jeffrey Dahmer who if he wasn't beaten to death would have still been alive to this day deserve to live? Or what about Stephen Sterns who SA'd a 14 year old girl and then murdered her in her own home whose facing death penalty charges. Should he have the opportunity to live out his life? What about Chad Daybell who murdered 2 kids and his wife he should just wait it out in jail as well right? Utter madness smh. Like Denzel quoted from man on fire "forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting". The process played out and justice was served
Except the words matched the physical evidence. People that couldn't have been there were able to tell the police details about the scene that only the murderer could have know, and Marcellus Williams is the one that told them. We behave like there wasn't a whole court case that went over all of this.
@@methodman6725 that doesn't equate to murder. It has already been established that those stolen items were purchased by Marcellus Williams. That would make him a crook not a murderer.
He admitted to doing it to his girlfriend he had the idea he had bloody clothing. And on top of it he had her belongings and sold her laptop. He had a previous robbery of which he was spending 50 years in prison for. So this is his character he regularly robbed people. And this time he happened to kill someone in the process of doing so. That's what happens with violent robbers. That's why we keep them away in prison.
He admitted to doing it to his girlfriend he had the idea he had bloody clothing. And on top of it he had her belongings and sold her laptop. He had a previous robbery of which he was spending 50 years in prison for. So this is his character he regularly robbed people. And this time he happened to kill someone in the process of doing so. That's what happens with violent robbers. That's why we keep them away in prison.
"Don't you believe in the criminl justice system!?" As a juror.. no. I learned powerful lessons in that box that haunt me to this day. This system is a railroad disguised as a vetting process.
DNA technology and testing before trial did not examine “touch DNA," based on standard techniques and practices at the time. Additionally, subsequent DNA testing has never exonerated Williams. Williams has a robust criminal history, including 15 felony convictions in addition to offenses related to Ms. Gayle's murder: robbery (2), armed criminal action (2), assault (2), burglary (4), stealing (3), stealing a motor vehicle, and unlawful use of a weapon, which is all consistent with entering the home, attacking Ms. Gayle, and taking her items. Williams confessed the murder to his girlfriend soon after committing his horrific crime once his girlfriend found Ms. Gayle’s purse in Williams’ car, but he also threatened to kill her and her family if she told anyone, readily explaining why his girlfriend did not approach law enforcement until Williams was in custody. The girlfriend never requested the reward for information about Ms. Gayle’s murder, despite claims that she was only interested in money. When speaking with law enforcement, the jailhouse informant provided information about the crime that was not publicly available, yet consistent with crime scene evidence and Williams’ involvement. Other individuals were present when Williams bragged about this murder, and they were disclosed to Williams’ team before trial and have been discussed in subsequent proceedings. Gayle’s personal items were found in the trunk of Williams’ car. Williams sold Ms. Gayle’s husband’s laptop to another individual who later identified Williams as the seller. Williams’ disrespect for others’ well-being and aversion to order have continued in prison, including attacking other inmates and threatening correctional officers.
If they found evidence that could over turn his case they should have delayed their execution, until they gave him a chance in court to try and show his innocence.
1) He confessed to multiple people - including his girlfriend. 2) He had the victim’s purse, ID, clothes, and husband’s laptop in his car. 3) He was convicted. By a jury of his peers. 4) The defense has had over 20 years to produce NEW evidence that proves his innocence - the legal standard post-conviction. 5) DNA testing did not “clear” him. 6) The only DNA found on later testing belonged to members of the prosecution - not a possible other suspect. 7) The DNA was not mishandled by standards in practice 20 years ago. 8) The DNA evidence was collected, without issue, then after collection - the prosecution touched the knife without gloves - as was common - they just didn’t know. 9) The Missouri Supreme Court reviewed ALL of this information & found, “no credible evidence of actual innocence or any showing of a constitutional error undermining confidence in the original judgment,” 10) The only Prosecutor with jurisdiction is the Missouri AG - who said it was a legal conviction, that Williams was found guilty, and petitioned for the execution to proceed. 11) The current local DA, has ZERO jurisdiction over the case. His opinion is irrelevant.
“You either believe in the criminal justice system or you don’t” - I think that’s the problem here… a lot of us don’t at this point. That being said, I think this was a nuanced and respectful discussion of a difficult and complex issue
He told his girlfriend she left the knife in the victims neck. How would he know that unless he was there? Also, he sold the victims husbands laptop the very next day.
Why don’t you have the defendant’s attorney and the prosecutor on your show? Pretty sure they have more actual info than your and your guests’ speculations.
Check out 1 minute remaining podcasts they interviewed the attorney and he gave a run down of the case and it was bias as hell. Firstly the removal of 6 black jurors leaving 1:10 black jury and secondly omitting th testimony of the guy that bought the laptop saying Williams was selling the laptop on behalf of his girlfriend.
@@charitymillang5023 what does that have to do with the fact that he’s a convicted murder? Lost every appeal for a 26 year period?every single of those people was racist and wanted to kill an innocent black man… nah fam. This dude had 15 prior felony convictions. He bragged about stabbing that woman 43 times, there was evidence to convict him and he took an Alford plea, he was guilty. You can argue against the death penalty, but can’t argue that he was innocent. For me it’s good riddance, he deserves hell
1) He confessed to multiple people - including his girlfriend. 2) He had the victim’s purse, ID, clothes, and husband’s laptop in his car. 3) He was convicted. By a jury of his peers. 4) The defense has had over 20 years to produce NEW evidence that proves his innocence - the legal standard post-conviction. 5) DNA testing did not “clear” him. 6) The only DNA found on later testing belonged to members of the prosecution - not a possible other suspect. 7) The DNA was not mishandled by standards in practice 20 years ago. 8) The DNA evidence was collected, without issue, then after collection - the prosecution touched the knife without gloves - as was common - they just didn’t know. 9) The Missouri Supreme Court reviewed ALL of this information & found, “no credible evidence of actual innocence or any showing of a constitutional error undermining confidence in the original judgment,” 10) The only Prosecutor with jurisdiction is the Missouri AG - who said it was a legal conviction, that Williams was found guilty, and petitioned for the execution to proceed. 11) The current local DA, has ZERO jurisdiction over the case. His opinion is irrelevant.
@@mihirpanchal5754they literally have no evidence on him and no blood matched his dna so how could he have done it they killed him because he was black and he was Muslim Smh 🤦♂️
Stabbed 43 times is a personal killing, meaning it was someone who either dated her or knew her and hated her enough to decide to stab, stab, stab. Now who would have such a personal grudge of hate???
@@crimelaw4053i believe the gf and that inmate were both looking for $10k of info so perhaps he and the gf made it a setup, but at that point i feel like it becomes a he said she said, so its like why trust the words of a criminal?
@@bmo401 wrong… neither got any money for the testimony. The cellmate and the ex had no clue who each other were, why would 2 random people have the same exact account of the murder if he didn’t do it? How did the cellmate magically work with the ex to frame him, eventhough he would have no clear reason or motive to frame him? See there’s no answer for all this and thus 12 different judges thought he was guilty
1) He confessed to multiple people - including his girlfriend. 2) He had the victim’s purse, ID, clothes, and husband’s laptop in his car. 3) He was convicted. By a jury of his peers. 4) The defense has had over 20 years to produce NEW evidence that proves his innocence - the legal standard post-conviction. 5) DNA testing did not “clear” him. 6) The only DNA found on later testing belonged to members of the prosecution - not a possible other suspect. 7) The DNA was not mishandled by standards in practice 20 years ago. 8) The DNA evidence was collected, without issue, then after collection - the prosecution touched the knife without gloves - as was common - they just didn’t know. 9) The Missouri Supreme Court reviewed ALL of this information & found, “no credible evidence of actual innocence or any showing of a constitutional error undermining confidence in the original judgment,” 10) The only Prosecutor with jurisdiction is the Missouri AG - who said it was a legal conviction, that Williams was found guilty, and petitioned for the execution to proceed. 11) The current local DA, has ZERO jurisdiction over the case. His opinion is irrelevant.
قُلْ لَوْ أَنْتُمْ تَمْلِكُونَ خَزَائِنَ رَحْمَةِ رَبِّي إِذًا لَأَمْسَكْتُمْ خَشْيَةَ الْإِنْفَاقِ ۚ وَكَانَ الْإِنْسَانُ قَتُورًا Say [to them], "If you possessed the depositories of the mercy of my Lord, then you would withhold out of fear of spending." And ever has man been stingy.
The victims family werent against his execution because they thought he was innocent they are just anti death penalty they still wanted him in prison for life
Nothing surprises me coming from some wyt people…. I’ve seen some of those idiots bowing down for forgiveness because they wyt…. The stupidity is staggering..
@@thesun-N-moon8885 I love people of all races and religions but Marcellus was a career armed robber and was guilty. Need to read NPR written interview and the victim Alicia’s Wikipedia page.
You get it. Time to go to bed folks. We see through the bs. Calculator that belonged to Gayle's car and a man who said Williams sold him the laptop returned it
He did it. There was a trail that went over all this. There was overwhelming evidence of his guilt that everyone magically forgets when it's popular to let him out. He's had 20 years of appeals that have gone over all of this. Her name was Lisha Gayle, and Marcellus Williams waited for her to get out of her shower before stabbing her to death in the safety of her own home. Marcellus got 20 years more than she did, and it disgust me to watch people that watched a few videos on social media attempt to rob her of justice.
So basically handling stolen goods of a person who was killed makes you guilty for murder, when all the evidence like footprints and dna tells you it wasn’t this person
"You either believe in it or you don't..." Yeah, I'm sorry, I really don't. The court system makes tons of mistakes DAILY. I wouldn't trust them to know their asshole from their fingertip, because they'll try to convince and gaslight you that they both smell like strawberry.
HOW WAS SUCH AN INJUSTICE ALLOWED TO BE CARRIED OUT, IN AN AGE WHERE THEY HAVE THE MOST SOPHISTICATED, KNOWLEDGE, EQUIPMENT NEEDED TO PROVE AND SOLVE THIS CRIME. THIS IS SHAMEFUL TO SAY THE LEAST.
@thelogicaldanger I don't have a problem with people who are both against the death penalty and against abortion. Nor do I have a problem for those for the death penalty and abortion. At least they stand for their convictions. But to be against the death penalty and be pro abortion is the height of hypocrisy
@@MarkG-h2y but there are states that permit abortions up to the day of birth so yes, you and the others that believe in abortion are no better than the executioner. Fact.
Because there may have been several people over at the victim Alicia’s house to leave hair and even the police officers fingerprint was on the knife. But by the time he was sentenced Marcellus was already doing a 20 year sentance for doing an armed robbery of innocent people in a donut shop. He was a professional armed robber with a very long criminal record. Ofc he knew to wear gloves when he merr derr ed Alicia. When he broke into her house she was showering. He could have simply stolen her stuff and moved on but he went in shower and ended her. The media keeps saying it was his ex gf whom”said” Marcellus’ stuff was in his car. That’s not the whole story. The police did “retrieve” Alicia’s stolen belongings from th backseat of his car AND her purse from his trunk. Also erroneous for them to say his gf should have been a suspect. Alicia was staa bbed like 39 times, once right in the head. Believe me that WAS NOT done by a woman. I feel the dame as Zelin here. It hurts the heart, but after 11 court hearing and Supreme Court hearing there was no evidence of his innocence. I disagree with using capital punishment at all on anyone, but right now we need to think about the victim Alicia. Imagine how scary it must have been to ger merr derr ed in her own home while showering. Defenceless. Her husband and fam will never see her again. ALL merr derr ers of women say they are innocent. They have brain issues that say they’re innocent. ALL OF THEM. One court of judge could make mistakes but not whole jury and 12 courts over 25 years. They’re NOT ALL id jits. Time to move on. Shame on media channels that don’t tell the truth about this case and gloss over facts to get ppl excited clicking viewing and crying. Shame. There’s an NPR written article posted now tho that tells the deets. And the Wikipedia page for the victim Alicia has some of the deets. The court docs are probably available online too. If someone thinks every court, Justice, prosecutors , over 25 years was corrupt they should dig in and read all the material instead of just getting emotional and angry and jumping to conclusions.
There was no DNA because his MO was to wear gloves, and to pull touch DNA off an item 20 years later off an item that has been handled by 50 different people from a time when touch DNA wasn't a thing is asinine. Lack off DNA doesn't prove anything in a case that didn't require DNA to be built.
@@SolutionsWithin and you have it all wrong. Appeals are not to prove guilt or innocence. Let’s start there. Appeals are to look at if the court made an error or his attorney. If so, it is remanded to the lower court to retry the case. His criminal history should have established an MO. He’s a thief but is more than that? Did those robberies involve him brutally do what was done to Mrs. Gayle? Did he meet the composite of the perpetrator the medical examiner should have testified to in court? These are all trial questions not questions brought before an appeals court. This is why you don’t go thru with an execution unless all questions have been adequately answered. It’s for him and it’s for the family, prosecutor, and jury to know that a fair trial was given.
It was him. We know it was him. All the evidence got put in front of a jury of 12 people. All of these points were argued in front of juror, and then for 20 years in front of judges.
Every thought O.J. killed his ex-wife in the '90s. Logically and statistically made sense b/c he was an ex. The likelihood of it being a stranger was not as strong as it being someone she knew.
This murder sounds like a crime of passion. Just the number of stabbing wounds is in question. This is a lynching. The evidence of bloody foot prints were not his and the DNA was not his. How do these people sleep at night. The victim’s family supported that he not be executed. So what does that say?
It’s very simple- if they admitted they made a mistake the family would have been eligible for a HUGE SETTLEMENT. 100s of cases would have to be reviewed. This harkens back to the Jim Crow days. They lynched an innocent man and didn’t care. Sends a message to the Black community.
@@thesun-N-moon8885 the word you’re looking for is FACTS. They had ZERO physical evidence to tie this man to this crime. When the prosecutor demands a stay and ADMITS his mistakes , you don’t take a life.
testimony against Williams from 22 witnesses. one witness testified Williams confessed while incarcerated. Henry Cole also gave details of the crime that only the perpetrator would have known. the victims purse was found in Williams car by his then girlfriend Lara Asaro. she testified she confronted Williams thinking he was cheating on her, only for him to confess about the murder as his alibi for not cheating. Williams also had possession of the victims husbands laptop which was sold to another corroborating witness and had no alibi to his where abouts during the crime. as well as wearing a bloody jacket according to Asorio after the murder. Williams had a criminal history which included 15 felonies and multiple robberies. the "mistake" made was investigators from the original prosecuting team who handled the murder weapon without gloves. thereby depositing their DNA on the weapon. since the weapon itself was not intrinsic to the conviction the case was not overturned. now, where is this lynching you're talking about?
Wasn't Ms. Gayle, the murder victim, the reporter investigating oil and gas over some type of shady dealings, as well she was investigating Parsons, the Governor? Something weird going on.
There is nothing weird going on. Please look at the court case facts for 15-20 minutes. He did it. It's all been put in front of a jury. All of this shit has been argued for 20 years. To the point where now people are making things up to be proven right.
Nobody gives a damn once you are labeled guilty. Why didn't they? Technicalities. And coz they don't want to admit fault and open themselves up to (another) lawsuit.
@@lyjugufugyjkt586...and Marcellus admitted he sold it. But he blames his girlfriend for giving him it to sell. Which means, if you believe that, that his girlfriend broke into a home, stabbed another woman over 40 times, stole the laptop in her house, and gave it to her lover, just to implicate him with murder. If you think that is plausible, then you need to reexamine human nature.
The dude was a evil monster that killed a young woman reporter and social worker which he stabbed 45 times with a butcher knife, just so he could steal her purse and her husbands laptop. The evidence agaisnt this man was overwhelming. I just feel sad for the young girl who only wanted to help people. R.I.P. Felicia Gayle 🙏
@@kpflex8995 no set up, this dude was a career criminal with more than 12 felony convictions, all consistent with the unjustly murder of this reporter.
"Williams' girlfriend, Lara Asaro, also named Williams as the culprit. At the time of his conviction, Williams had just started serving a 20-year prison sentence for robbing a downtown St. Louis donut shop."🙄
The items found were provided by the ex girlfriend, a prostitute that was living and turning tricks in his car. She was a drug addict, with pending charges, whose charges went away with her testimony. She should have been at least a suspect. But, it's not a far stretch to think that a drug addict and possible suspect in a murder, would forgo reward money. Her reward may have been getting away with being an accomplice to the murder or actual murder.
While im no bleeding heart.. i will say, the fact the victim was a reporter, i would be checking if she had dirt or was writing a story on someone important. Especially if hair and shoes weren't a match.
@@kevin6293 I never said i believed in his innocence smart guy. If there is reasonable doubt, which there seems to be.. I would be looking at every possibility. Learn to interpret better.
And this guy talking about believing in the criminal justice system or you don’t. lol that’s a load of crap. Even if you have the best system in the world, the system is run by HUMANS and mistakes happen all the time. He is acting like the Criminal Justice system is always right. We as humans aren’t ALWAYS right, and this undying faith in the system is the wrong way to look at things. Everything must be questioned, that’s the only way improvements happen. That’s a cheap easy answer that doesn’t justify this execution.
@@MatthewsSloan you don’t know that for sure. All I’m saying he should have just been in jail for life or at the very least delayed the execution. If new evidence comes forth that’s in conflict with the old evidence, then the execution shouldn’t have happened until they reviewed the new evidence and come to a new conclusion. I’m not saying the man was innocent. All I’m saying is shouldn’t a change in evidence be cause for pause?
That's not what he meant. Williams was afforded all the opportunities he was supposed to be afforded and didn't produce enough to change the outcome. If we're going to complain and demand the standard be changed from a reasonable doubt to a shadow of a doubt, then we have to apply that to every case. So many cases, probably the majority of cases, would not hold up to a shadow of a doubt standard. You can pretty much always find an explanation that would cast a show of a doubt. It would be the same as getting rid of capital punishment altogether.
Ppl need to understand the sequence of events. The female lawyer at the beginning misrepresented the facts. The jailhouse informant was the only witness who learned about the reward and came forward for the reward. That fact does not make his information invalid. If it did, then no information given after a reward is offered would ever be considered in any investigation. It's a silly argument. But let's continue. After the fellow inmate got out of jail, he went to the police to give his information and seek the reward money. Upon hearing his story, Marcellus became a suspect and the police went to Marcellus's girlfriend to question her about it. *SHE DID NOT GO TO THE POLICE FOR REWARD MONEY* . They came to her based on the tip they got from the jailhouse informant. When they questioned her, she explained the day Marcellus picked her up with bloody clothes on under a jacket on a hot day. She explained that she saw a purse in his car and thought he was cheating. Then she alleged that he explained what happened and who the purse belonged to before threatening her to keep quiet. The laptop was sold 2 days after the murder. The jailhouse informant did not get out and go to thy police until a year later. 2 days after the murder there was no reward money and the GF didn't know the future so she had no reason to sit on her information for a year other than her being afraid of Williams. To discredit the GF you would have to believe that she participated in a robbery murder in 1998, gave the laptop to Marcellus 2 days later to sell at a pawn shop, and planted 2 items from the victim's purse in his car trunk instead of just planting the whole purse. Then, she did nothing for a year until police came to her with questions about Marcellus. How does that make sense? What was her angle? Set him up and don't tell anyone unless they come asking? Did she know that almost a year later there would be a reward offered for information if she just sat on the info long enough? The only person who said the GF gave him the laptop was Marcellus. What is he expected to say? He offered no explanation for the other items found in his trunk. He did not offer any plausible explanation for his connections to the murder. All his team did was try to cast doubt on the witnesses. They didn't even have a coherent story to explain all these things. That's why his conviction happened and was upheld. If someone set him up, they did a great job. They left behind no evidence of a set up. No witnesses to any plot, no messages or recorded conversations. No ties between witnesses were ever discovered. No ties to any law enforcement or the victims husband were ever discovered. You can speculate wild theories that would make him innocent. The problem is that none of those theories have evidence to back them up. My brother in Islam was found guilty. It was a reasonable conviction and upholding it was reasonable in my opinion. I didn't want that for him, and I hope we get a law that says a convict can't be executed if the victims family doesn't want it. But we have no such law and it just is what it is.
Why now? why late to reveal the laptop evidence till after they killed him, so that he cannot defend him self, and why don't they investigate the buyer?
Now we talkin, they specifically said a Macintosh laptop was stolen and a purse. A calculator was found in Williams car during a search. Williams gf said she saw scratches on his neck and blood on his shirt, she also did not accept the 5,000 information reward while the other guy who said William's sold him the laptop did. The was a 10,000 info reward. But they I'm not sure if they disclosed if it was a Mancintosh laptop. It sounds like he did it but the way it was handled is fish af. It happened in 98, why kill him now, instead of just giving him life in prison. Apparently the laptop info was disclosed after they killed him. Basically all this is to cause an uproar and get people distracted
The way she was murdered seems more personal than just a robbery. I think the female was given the property and paid to help set things in motion to make him the main suspect. It’s strange that she waited for the reward, but never excepted it though🤔.
I keep hearing from all these shows that EVEN the murdered womans family didn't want him executed, what they fail to say is some of the family felt that way and more importantly all of the family thought he was guilty of murdering an innocent woman taking a shower in her own home, a huge difference. The DNA evidence was from the detective and prosecuter touching the knife at a much later time. At the time touch DNA retreval did not exist but not because of some nefarious wrong doing. There was plenty of evidence showing his guilt its just that those opposing the death penality don't want to admit to it because of ideological reasons not the facts that a man who had previously commited 14 crimes some of them violent robberies had brutally murdered a woman while committing a robbery.
May Allah give him the highest paradise. May Allah forgive him and protect his family. May this nev repeat again. May both the victims be forgiven by the the creator. To him we belong and to him we shall all return.
@@johntempleton3560 True but when some of the witnesses admit to being coerced & DNA evidence doesn't lead back to the defendant, that raises some doubt, therefore the execution should have at least been paused. Plus Greitens who was Governor before Parsons, granted a reprieve because of the DNA evidence. Not saying the man was innocent because I don't know all the facts, but the questions should have been enough to pause at least temporarily...Disheartening!
Here's the dumb part of this whole talk.He said as heart tells him that he's wrong, but his head tells him he's right.Does he know that Marcellus girlfriend Gave him the laptop
Or that she was a drug addict s-x worker that “worked” and slept in that car? Or told her neighbor that she was getting paid to testify? Or that she lied on the stand about her own criminal record? Or that she said she saw deep scratches on Williams from Mrs. Gayle but no material was found under her fingernails?
What? Williams girlfriend have him the laptop? Ok? There was a calculator that belonged to Gayle in his car? Wtf is going on. This whole shit if fishy. Williams gf also said she found scratches on his neck and blood on his shirt
You wanna talk about a supposed man whether he had a fair trial or not following his execution and couldn't bring neither the prosecutor nor defendant attorney actually related his case.
You just admitted that there was no physical evidence. Just the words of human beings incentivized to say he was guilty. And since the courts no longer have effective mechanism to correct mistakes, the fact that all of the courts refused to do so is not proof of guilt. It is an indictment on our current incarceration system in which innocence is no longer an option.
@@anny1650 yes, he had sold a laptop that was stolen from the victim’s residence, and items from the victim’s purse were found in the vehicle he was driving.
15 felonies is crazy though. It almost seemed like this guy was martyr the way people have been talking about this. I don’t think the death penalty was warranted here, because they didn’t have any proof. But this guy was far from a good person if he had 15 felonies
Because there may have been several people over at the victim Alicia’s house to leave hair and even the police officers fingerprint was on the knife. But by the time he was sentenced Marcellus was already doing a 20 year sentance for doing an armed robbery of innocent people in a donut shop. He was a professional armed robber with a very long criminal record. Ofc he knew to wear gloves when he merr derr ed Alicia. The media keeps saying it was his ex gf whom”said” Marcellus’ stuff was in his car. That’s not the whole story. The police did “retrieve” Alicia’s stolen belongings from th backseat of his car AND her purse from his trunk. Also erroneous for them to say his gf should have been a suspect. Alicia was staa bbed like 39 times, once right in the head. Believe me that WAS NOT done by a woman. I feel the same as Zelin here. It hurts the heart, but after 11 court hearing and Supreme Court hearing there was no evidence of his innocence. I disagree with using capital punishment at all on anyone, but right now we need to think about the victim Alicia. Imagine how scary it must have been to ger merr derr ed in her own home while showering. Defenceless. Her husband and fam will never see her again. ALL merr derr ers of women say they are innocent. They have brain issues that say they’re innocent. ALL OF THEM. One court of judge could make mistakes but not whole jury and 12 courts over 25 years. They’re NOT ALL id jits. Time to move on. Shame on media channels that don’t tell the truth about this case and gloss over facts to get ppl excited clicking viewing and crying. Shame. There’s an NPR written article posted now tho that tells the deets. And the Wikipedia page for the victim Alicia has some of the deets. The court docs are probably available online too. If someone thinks every court, Justice, prosecutors , over 25 years was corrupt they should dig in and read all the material instead of just getting emotional and angry and jumping to conclusions.
Why would the female suspect try to collect on a reward when she’d already gave the purse and laptop to her boyfriend or left it in there to draw a connection where there wasn’t any since the hair and foot prints didn’t match
She didn’t take Alicia’s belongings from Marcellus car. The police came and retrieved them from his back seat and her purse was in his trunk. He was already serving a 20 year sentence for armed robbery.
I doubt it. This isn't the first time a likely innocent man has been executed by the state. In fact, several years ago Missouri executed a known innocent man.
@@Matty272 where is the evidence of lots?? It’s definitely rare, not the norm. We hear those stories because of just how rare they are. We don’t hear, hey there’s like 10k people in prison for murder and hey guess what they are guilty lol
@@BobbyDazzler888 He was guilty. He was covered in blood, and even his girlfriend said he was, when he picked her up. Did he just happen to be covered in her blood? Eh? Please.
This is a travesty of misjustice as it sounds like there was some doubt here so they should’ve halted it! However if he did it then ok but if not this is crazy especially if they mentioned his DNA wasn’t found on the crime scene!
There was no doubt. Just politics. DNA wouldn't have exonerated him. His MO was to wear gloves. There was a whole detailed trial that went over mountains of evidence. If you look at the actual evidence and the reasoning around it. It's very clear to see that he did it. You can see why a jury of 12 people unanimously found him guilty, and why it held up for 20 years through tons of court cases. The defense had gotten to the point that they are making things up to get him out of facing justice.
it's the current prosecutor who trying to cast doubt on the case because he is far left and believes all black people are innocent despite the case having evidence that tie him to the case. his defense story makes no sense and I don't think I ever heard if he ever presented an alibi on the night of the murder.
Everything was great until the very ending when the LOUD end promo blew out my eardrums. Please fix that. It’s extremely annoying to viewers to have to hear the plug at the end. Terrible way to end vids y’all. 🙏
We have serial killers who will live out their lives in prison.
Because those states don't execute murders smh. I always use Wisconsin as point of reference look how many serial killers, mass murders and homicidal wack jobs are produced in that state. And they all live long and healthy lives no way is that okay. Do you think Darrell Brooks or even a Jeffrey Dahmer who if he wasn't beaten to death would have still been alive to this day deserve to live? Or what about Stephen Sterns who SA'd a 14 year old girl and then murdered her in her own home whose facing death penalty charges. Should he have the opportunity to live out his life? What about Chad Daybell who murdered 2 kids and his wife he should just wait it out in jail as well right? Utter madness smh. Like Denzel quoted from man on fire "forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting". The process played out and justice was served
UNTIL A BLEEDING HEART PETITIONS THE GOVERNOR...
Only 21 states have the death penalty.
@@hilriekemp Damn... this guy knows his serial killers 🤣🤣
@@skybirdnomad He killed that poor woman because he was an animal.
Believe in physical evidence, not words
Except the words matched the physical evidence. People that couldn't have been there were able to tell the police details about the scene that only the murderer could have know, and Marcellus Williams is the one that told them. We behave like there wasn't a whole court case that went over all of this.
@@MatthewsSloan and they trusted the words of already convicted people get deals, always trust somebody already in prison, bahahaha
@@bbbnick9197 how about the victims items found in his trunk?
@@methodman6725 you obviously didn't look into the case
@@methodman6725 that doesn't equate to murder. It has already been established that those stolen items were purchased by Marcellus Williams. That would make him a crook not a murderer.
if you cant decide then dont do it. because you can not reverse it
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He admitted to doing it to his girlfriend he had the idea he had bloody clothing. And on top of it he had her belongings and sold her laptop. He had a previous robbery of which he was spending 50 years in prison for. So this is his character he regularly robbed people. And this time he happened to kill someone in the process of doing so. That's what happens with violent robbers. That's why we keep them away in prison.
He admitted to doing it to his girlfriend he had the idea he had bloody clothing. And on top of it he had her belongings and sold her laptop. He had a previous robbery of which he was spending 50 years in prison for. So this is his character he regularly robbed people. And this time he happened to kill someone in the process of doing so. That's what happens with violent robbers. That's why we keep them away in prison.
They did decide. A jury of 12 decided.
"Don't you believe in the criminl justice system!?"
As a juror.. no. I learned powerful lessons in that box that haunt me to this day. This system is a railroad disguised as a vetting process.
Look at the delphi murder case with Rick Allen and the Karen Read case, for examples.
DNA technology and testing before trial did not examine “touch DNA," based on standard techniques and practices at the time. Additionally, subsequent DNA testing has never exonerated Williams.
Williams has a robust criminal history, including 15 felony convictions in addition to offenses related to Ms. Gayle's murder: robbery (2), armed criminal action (2), assault (2), burglary (4), stealing (3), stealing a motor vehicle, and unlawful use of a weapon, which is all consistent with entering the home, attacking Ms. Gayle, and taking her items.
Williams confessed the murder to his girlfriend soon after committing his horrific crime once his girlfriend found Ms. Gayle’s purse in Williams’ car, but he also threatened to kill her and her family if she told anyone, readily explaining why his girlfriend did not approach law enforcement until Williams was in custody.
The girlfriend never requested the reward for information about Ms. Gayle’s murder, despite claims that she was only interested in money.
When speaking with law enforcement, the jailhouse informant provided information about the crime that was not publicly available, yet consistent with crime scene evidence and Williams’ involvement.
Other individuals were present when Williams bragged about this murder, and they were disclosed to Williams’ team before trial and have been discussed in subsequent proceedings.
Gayle’s personal items were found in the trunk of Williams’ car.
Williams sold Ms. Gayle’s husband’s laptop to another individual who later identified Williams as the seller.
Williams’ disrespect for others’ well-being and aversion to order have continued in prison, including attacking other inmates and threatening correctional officers.
@@ConcealedCourier when it comes to this monster, yes I do.
Wait, people ACTUALLY believe in the criminal justice system.
I believe he is guilty as heck and your dollar store cynicism is tired.
If they found evidence that could over turn his case they should have delayed their execution, until they gave him a chance in court to try and show his innocence.
They did do that, he was still guilty
@@archibaldmoore4514 stop lying
@@sundusabdulkadir8860 Where's the lie? Man had tons of appeals, all failed because he's guilty
This was like 20 years ago
They had 20 years. He did it.
Every one involved in a decision to take his life should be held accountable. They committed murder period.
Amen, I see your comments everywhere btw, you're great, I subscribed in case you ever decide to create content ❤
1) He confessed to multiple people - including his girlfriend.
2) He had the victim’s purse, ID, clothes, and husband’s laptop in his car.
3) He was convicted. By a jury of his peers.
4) The defense has had over 20 years to produce NEW evidence that proves his innocence - the legal standard post-conviction.
5) DNA testing did not “clear” him.
6) The only DNA found on later testing belonged to members of the prosecution - not a possible other suspect.
7) The DNA was not mishandled by standards in practice 20 years ago.
8) The DNA evidence was collected, without issue, then after collection - the prosecution touched the knife without gloves - as was common - they just didn’t know.
9) The Missouri Supreme Court reviewed ALL of this information & found, “no credible evidence of actual innocence or any showing of a constitutional error undermining confidence in the original judgment,”
10) The only Prosecutor with jurisdiction is the Missouri AG - who said it was a legal conviction, that Williams was found guilty, and petitioned for the execution to proceed.
11) The current local DA, has ZERO jurisdiction over the case. His opinion is irrelevant.
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What about abortion?
@@yakivpopavichHe didnt confessed they lied!!! If you are not sure why do it ?! No dna that hair was not his ?! This is fishy 😅😅
“You either believe in the criminal justice system or you don’t” - I think that’s the problem here… a lot of us don’t at this point.
That being said, I think this was a nuanced and respectful discussion of a difficult and complex issue
Don’t talk bout it now yall shoulda been talking when he was alive the fuck
They took his freedom and killed him smh
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He told his girlfriend she left the knife in the victims neck. How would he know that unless he was there? Also, he sold the victims husbands laptop the very next day.
Why don’t you have the defendant’s attorney and the prosecutor on your show? Pretty sure they have more actual info than your and your guests’ speculations.
Absolutely 💯
Because the defense attorney and the prosecutor already provided both sides...and 12 people gave him the death penalty
Because they're biased and some of us actually want to hear the facts of the case, not a load of tripe
Check out 1 minute remaining podcasts they interviewed the attorney and he gave a run down of the case and it was bias as hell. Firstly the removal of 6 black jurors leaving 1:10 black jury and secondly omitting th testimony of the guy that bought the laptop saying Williams was selling the laptop on behalf of his girlfriend.
@@AmericanWarlord526 What makes you say they were biased?
shahid
like he said “alhamdulilah for every situation “
Alhamdulilah
@@charitymillang5023 what does that have to do with the fact that he’s a convicted murder? Lost every appeal for a 26 year period?every single of those people was racist and wanted to kill an innocent black man… nah fam. This dude had 15 prior felony convictions. He bragged about stabbing that woman 43 times, there was evidence to convict him and he took an Alford plea, he was guilty. You can argue against the death penalty, but can’t argue that he was innocent. For me it’s good riddance, he deserves hell
@@mihirpanchal5754 you will not understand and you won’t understand
1) He confessed to multiple people - including his girlfriend.
2) He had the victim’s purse, ID, clothes, and husband’s laptop in his car.
3) He was convicted. By a jury of his peers.
4) The defense has had over 20 years to produce NEW evidence that proves his innocence - the legal standard post-conviction.
5) DNA testing did not “clear” him.
6) The only DNA found on later testing belonged to members of the prosecution - not a possible other suspect.
7) The DNA was not mishandled by standards in practice 20 years ago.
8) The DNA evidence was collected, without issue, then after collection - the prosecution touched the knife without gloves - as was common - they just didn’t know.
9) The Missouri Supreme Court reviewed ALL of this information & found, “no credible evidence of actual innocence or any showing of a constitutional error undermining confidence in the original judgment,”
10) The only Prosecutor with jurisdiction is the Missouri AG - who said it was a legal conviction, that Williams was found guilty, and petitioned for the execution to proceed.
11) The current local DA, has ZERO jurisdiction over the case. His opinion is irrelevant.
@@mihirpanchal5754they literally have no evidence on him and no blood matched his dna so how could he have done it they killed him because he was black and he was Muslim
Smh 🤦♂️
Stabbed 43 times is a personal killing, meaning it was someone who either dated her or knew her and hated her enough to decide to stab, stab, stab. Now who would have such a personal grudge of hate???
Or it’s an MO. A women not to far from this victim’s home was killed in a similar way. Williams was in custody at the time.
The girlfriend who gave him or planted that lady's stuff. Setup
@@shelbyanderson3400but then explain how the cell mate had the same story that he did it?
@@crimelaw4053i believe the gf and that inmate were both looking for $10k of info so perhaps he and the gf made it a setup, but at that point i feel like it becomes a he said she said, so its like why trust the words of a criminal?
@@bmo401 wrong… neither got any money for the testimony. The cellmate and the ex had no clue who each other were, why would 2 random people have the same exact account of the murder if he didn’t do it? How did the cellmate magically work with the ex to frame him, eventhough he would have no clear reason or motive to frame him? See there’s no answer for all this and thus 12 different judges thought he was guilty
May Allah swt grant him Paradise
Allahuma Amiin 🤲🏽 ❤
Amen ya rabb
Ameen
1) He confessed to multiple people - including his girlfriend.
2) He had the victim’s purse, ID, clothes, and husband’s laptop in his car.
3) He was convicted. By a jury of his peers.
4) The defense has had over 20 years to produce NEW evidence that proves his innocence - the legal standard post-conviction.
5) DNA testing did not “clear” him.
6) The only DNA found on later testing belonged to members of the prosecution - not a possible other suspect.
7) The DNA was not mishandled by standards in practice 20 years ago.
8) The DNA evidence was collected, without issue, then after collection - the prosecution touched the knife without gloves - as was common - they just didn’t know.
9) The Missouri Supreme Court reviewed ALL of this information & found, “no credible evidence of actual innocence or any showing of a constitutional error undermining confidence in the original judgment,”
10) The only Prosecutor with jurisdiction is the Missouri AG - who said it was a legal conviction, that Williams was found guilty, and petitioned for the execution to proceed.
11) The current local DA, has ZERO jurisdiction over the case. His opinion is irrelevant.
For being a career criminal and a murderer.
It doesn't matter if he is innocent, it matters if he had a fair trial.
Not a direct quote, but close. And that's disgusting. Absolutely abhorrent.
God won’t have no mercy for this wicked world ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
"Won't have no " is a double negative meaning "will have".
which god...plenty of to choose from............
قُلْ لَوْ أَنْتُمْ تَمْلِكُونَ خَزَائِنَ رَحْمَةِ رَبِّي إِذًا لَأَمْسَكْتُمْ خَشْيَةَ الْإِنْفَاقِ ۚ وَكَانَ الْإِنْسَانُ قَتُورًا
Say [to them], "If you possessed the depositories of the mercy of my Lord, then you would withhold out of fear of spending." And ever has man been stingy.
The world is not wicked, some people are, like this guy who murder a lady.
You are the wicked ones.
He should be removed from office
Now, sooo many crocodiles politicians will come out and express their sad feelings with the crocodile’s tears!!!!
No physical evidence was connected to him so how did he get there to commit that murder.
The victims family werent against his execution because they thought he was innocent they are just anti death penalty they still wanted him in prison for life
Nothing surprises me coming from some wyt people…. I’ve seen some of those idiots bowing down for forgiveness because they wyt…. The stupidity is staggering..
@@thesun-N-moon8885 I love people of all races and religions but Marcellus was a career armed robber and was guilty. Need to read NPR written interview and the victim Alicia’s Wikipedia page.
and it was one of them. Not to mention the "prosecutions office" was one man running for office.
what you guys did was wrong in eyes of god by killing a man that you did not create
The one's who let this go on should serve the same jail time .
You shouldn't have someone on death row if you're 'torn".
They made this case politically motivated and that’s what is a shame here. Plenty of evidence of the DP.
@@BridgKay no political motivation.. he stabbed someone 43 times
You get it. Time to go to bed folks. We see through the bs. Calculator that belonged to Gayle's car and a man who said Williams sold him the laptop returned it
NO, I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.
Wow they killed this innocent man. They gotta stand before God one day
He did it. There was a trail that went over all this. There was overwhelming evidence of his guilt that everyone magically forgets when it's popular to let him out. He's had 20 years of appeals that have gone over all of this. Her name was Lisha Gayle, and Marcellus Williams waited for her to get out of her shower before stabbing her to death in the safety of her own home. Marcellus got 20 years more than she did, and it disgust me to watch people that watched a few videos on social media attempt to rob her of justice.
So basically handling stolen goods of a person who was killed makes you guilty for murder, when all the evidence like footprints and dna tells you it wasn’t this person
He doesn't have to be innocent to be found not guilty.
"You either believe in it or you don't..."
Yeah, I'm sorry, I really don't. The court system makes tons of mistakes DAILY. I wouldn't trust them to know their asshole from their fingertip, because they'll try to convince and gaslight you that they both smell like strawberry.
HOW WAS SUCH AN INJUSTICE ALLOWED TO BE CARRIED OUT, IN AN AGE WHERE THEY HAVE THE MOST SOPHISTICATED, KNOWLEDGE, EQUIPMENT NEEDED TO PROVE AND SOLVE THIS CRIME. THIS IS SHAMEFUL TO SAY THE LEAST.
It sounds to me like the girlfriend killed her then set him up for it. Doesn't take Sherlock to figure out...
Oj was guiltily
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@dmiconsulting oj didn't get charged for a crime he did commit and was later found guilty in civil Court. Marcellus didn't have a chance
IMPEACH PARSONS
So he was a career criminal but evidence doesn’t match him and was given victim’s property. Should have just kept him in prison. This was silly.
Yet these people will argue that the taking of an innocent like through abortion is fine. These people are hypocrites.
There are many people (Catholics for example) who are both against abortion and the death penalty. 2 wrongs never make a right.
@thelogicaldanger I don't have a problem with people who are both against the death penalty and against abortion. Nor do I have a problem for those for the death penalty and abortion. At least they stand for their convictions. But to be against the death penalty and be pro abortion is the height of hypocrisy
You said that! Total Hypocrites!!!
Because an undeveloped fetus is not a human being. It's the reason that no attempt is made to save a fetus at one month when the mother dies. Facts.
@@MarkG-h2y but there are states that permit abortions up to the day of birth so yes, you and the others that believe in abortion are no better than the executioner. Fact.
So who is now accountable!?
The fact that Randy didn't answer the DNA question at the End says alot, how in the hell do you defend a flawed system
Because there may have been several people over at the victim Alicia’s house to leave hair and even the police officers fingerprint was on the knife. But by the time he was sentenced Marcellus was already doing a 20 year sentance for doing an armed robbery of innocent people in a donut shop. He was a professional armed robber with a very long criminal record. Ofc he knew to wear gloves when he merr derr ed Alicia. When he broke into her house she was showering. He could have simply stolen her stuff and moved on but he went in shower and ended her. The media keeps saying it was his ex gf whom”said” Marcellus’ stuff was in his car. That’s not the whole story. The police did “retrieve” Alicia’s stolen belongings from th backseat of his car AND her purse from his trunk. Also erroneous for them to say his gf should have been a suspect. Alicia was staa bbed like 39 times, once right in the head. Believe me that WAS NOT done by a woman. I feel the dame as Zelin here. It hurts the heart, but after 11 court hearing and Supreme Court hearing there was no evidence of his innocence. I disagree with using capital punishment at all on anyone, but right now we need to think about the victim Alicia. Imagine how scary it must have been to ger merr derr ed in her own home while showering. Defenceless. Her husband and fam will never see her again. ALL merr derr ers of women say they are innocent. They have brain issues that say they’re innocent. ALL OF THEM. One court of judge could make mistakes but not whole jury and 12 courts over 25 years. They’re NOT ALL id jits. Time to move on. Shame on media channels that don’t tell the truth about this case and gloss over facts to get ppl excited clicking viewing and crying. Shame. There’s an NPR written article posted now tho that tells the deets. And the Wikipedia page for the victim Alicia has some of the deets. The court docs are probably available online too. If someone thinks every court, Justice, prosecutors , over 25 years was corrupt they should dig in and read all the material instead of just getting emotional and angry and jumping to conclusions.
There was no DNA because his MO was to wear gloves, and to pull touch DNA off an item 20 years later off an item that has been handled by 50 different people from a time when touch DNA wasn't a thing is asinine. Lack off DNA doesn't prove anything in a case that didn't require DNA to be built.
@@SolutionsWithin and you have it all wrong. Appeals are not to prove guilt or innocence. Let’s start there. Appeals are to look at if the court made an error or his attorney. If so, it is remanded to the lower court to retry the case.
His criminal history should have established an MO. He’s a thief but is more than that? Did those robberies involve him brutally do what was done to Mrs. Gayle? Did he meet the composite of the perpetrator the medical examiner should have testified to in court? These are all trial questions not questions brought before an appeals court. This is why you don’t go thru with an execution unless all questions have been adequately answered. It’s for him and it’s for the family, prosecutor, and jury to know that a fair trial was given.
He was absolutely guilty
Stabbed 40 times looks like an over kill to me... maybe just maybe its somebody she knew.. but who knows
It was him. We know it was him. All the evidence got put in front of a jury of 12 people. All of these points were argued in front of juror, and then for 20 years in front of judges.
True. Most women of DV or violent assault/murder know their victims. U.S. stats show this clearly.
Every thought O.J. killed his ex-wife in the '90s. Logically and statistically made sense b/c he was an ex. The likelihood of it being a stranger was not as strong as it being someone she knew.
@@MatthewsSloan10 whites(maga) and 1 black person
@@bmo401 but convictions have to be unanimous, clearly the black person thought he was guilty too
This murder sounds like a crime of passion. Just the number of stabbing wounds is in question. This is a lynching. The evidence of bloody foot prints were not his and the DNA was not his. How do these people sleep at night. The victim’s family supported that he not be executed. So what does that say?
To be fair, the victim's family was anti-capital punishment in general, not just for him. They still thought he was guilty
It’s very simple- if they admitted they made a mistake the family would have been eligible for a HUGE SETTLEMENT. 100s of cases would have to be reviewed. This harkens back to the Jim Crow days. They lynched an innocent man and didn’t care. Sends a message to the Black community.
🙄 And here comes the saviors…
@@thesun-N-moon8885 the word you’re looking for is FACTS. They had ZERO physical evidence to tie this man to this crime. When the prosecutor demands a stay and ADMITS his mistakes , you don’t take a life.
testimony against Williams from 22 witnesses. one witness testified Williams confessed while incarcerated. Henry Cole also gave details of the crime that only the perpetrator would have known. the victims purse was found in Williams car by his then girlfriend Lara Asaro. she testified she confronted Williams thinking he was cheating on her, only for him to confess about the murder as his alibi for not cheating. Williams also had possession of the victims husbands laptop which was sold to another corroborating witness and had no alibi to his where abouts during the crime. as well as wearing a bloody jacket according to Asorio after the murder. Williams had a criminal history which included 15 felonies and multiple robberies. the "mistake" made was investigators from the original prosecuting team who handled the murder weapon without gloves. thereby depositing their DNA on the weapon. since the weapon itself was not intrinsic to the conviction the case was not overturned. now, where is this lynching you're talking about?
@@johntempleton3560 DNA evidence over rides any testimony an unreliable witness can offer up.
Well if I'm ever lynched I hope I get a trial with 12 jurors and 20 years worth of appeals. Stop.
Wasn't Ms. Gayle, the murder victim, the reporter investigating oil and gas over some type of shady dealings, as well she was investigating Parsons, the Governor? Something weird going on.
Parsons became the governor two decades after she died. Carnahan was the governor at the time.
I am from St Louis & we are in an uproar concerning this. I never heard anything about what Gayle was researching. That’s crazy!
This is a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, she was a retired journalist.
There is nothing weird going on. Please look at the court case facts for 15-20 minutes. He did it. It's all been put in front of a jury. All of this shit has been argued for 20 years. To the point where now people are making things up to be proven right.
Nobody gives a damn once you are labeled guilty.
Why didn't they? Technicalities. And coz they don't want to admit fault and open themselves up to (another) lawsuit.
The system is adversarial. Once they decide you’re guilty, it’s a game to them of winning and losing
WTF is happening in court nowadays?
Where did he get the laptop? That person is the murderer. Case closed.
Fosek wena mogwete wa kolobe, racist cocroroach
they didnt found the laptop on him,someone told the police he bought a stolen laptop from marcellus after 10K reward.
@@lyjugufugyjkt586...and Marcellus admitted he sold it. But he blames his girlfriend for giving him it to sell. Which means, if you believe that, that his girlfriend broke into a home, stabbed another woman over 40 times, stole the laptop in her house, and gave it to her lover, just to implicate him with murder.
If you think that is plausible, then you need to reexamine human nature.
@@lyjugufugyjkt586 Why did he brag about killing her.
I believe the person who said she found the items in his car should have been investigated.
They are wrong....
Thank you, Geraldo for being honest
The dude was a evil monster that killed a young woman reporter and social worker which he stabbed 45 times with a butcher knife, just so he could steal her purse and her husbands laptop. The evidence agaisnt this man was overwhelming. I just feel sad for the young girl who only wanted to help people. R.I.P. Felicia Gayle 🙏
See but when they don't have evidence for him on the weapons. She set him up obviously
@@kpflex8995 no set up, this dude was a career criminal with more than 12 felony convictions, all consistent with the unjustly murder of this reporter.
"Williams' girlfriend, Lara Asaro, also named Williams as the culprit. At the time of his conviction, Williams had just started serving a 20-year prison sentence for robbing a downtown St. Louis donut shop."🙄
The items found were provided by the ex girlfriend, a prostitute that was living and turning tricks in his car. She was a drug addict, with pending charges, whose charges went away with her testimony. She should have been at least a suspect. But, it's not a far stretch to think that a drug addict and possible suspect in a murder, would forgo reward money. Her reward may have been getting away with being an accomplice to the murder or actual murder.
The jurors made their decision based on what they knew at the time.
@@crissyd6279 which is not clear evidence. The got it wrong. Guilty should be without a reasonable doubt
Nobody cares about the real victim in this. If he didnt do it then who did
The victims family did not want him executed.
@@nicasia3867 but they sat there and worked to sentence Williams to death instead of trying to find the real killer
Someone else. Duh.
It was him, duh..
@@nicasia3867 victims family never denies his guilt. Don't get confused
While im no bleeding heart.. i will say, the fact the victim was a reporter, i would be checking if she had dirt or was writing a story on someone important. Especially if hair and shoes weren't a match.
@@quajay187 you’re not a bleeding heart, you’re just very not smart
@@kevin6293 and you cant think for yourself
@@quajay187 🤣 you’re the one getting tricked into defending an obviously guilty person. You should be embarrassed
@@kevin6293 I never said i believed in his innocence smart guy. If there is reasonable doubt, which there seems to be.. I would be looking at every possibility. Learn to interpret better.
alicia was not a reporter at the time of her merr derr, it was her prior job.
Please don't smear this brother he is not here to defend himself. He's is now with his Lord. God knows the truth
And this guy talking about believing in the criminal justice system or you don’t. lol that’s a load of crap. Even if you have the best system in the world, the system is run by HUMANS and mistakes happen all the time. He is acting like the Criminal Justice system is always right. We as humans aren’t ALWAYS right, and this undying faith in the system is the wrong way to look at things. Everything must be questioned, that’s the only way improvements happen. That’s a cheap easy answer that doesn’t justify this execution.
You are right, but in this case. The criminal justice system got it right.
@@MatthewsSloan you don’t know that for sure. All I’m saying he should have just been in jail for life or at the very least delayed the execution. If new evidence comes forth that’s in conflict with the old evidence, then the execution shouldn’t have happened until they reviewed the new evidence and come to a new conclusion. I’m not saying the man was innocent. All I’m saying is shouldn’t a change in evidence be cause for pause?
That's not what he meant. Williams was afforded all the opportunities he was supposed to be afforded and didn't produce enough to change the outcome. If we're going to complain and demand the standard be changed from a reasonable doubt to a shadow of a doubt, then we have to apply that to every case. So many cases, probably the majority of cases, would not hold up to a shadow of a doubt standard. You can pretty much always find an explanation that would cast a show of a doubt. It would be the same as getting rid of capital punishment altogether.
Ppl need to understand the sequence of events. The female lawyer at the beginning misrepresented the facts.
The jailhouse informant was the only witness who learned about the reward and came forward for the reward. That fact does not make his information invalid. If it did, then no information given after a reward is offered would ever be considered in any investigation. It's a silly argument. But let's continue.
After the fellow inmate got out of jail, he went to the police to give his information and seek the reward money. Upon hearing his story, Marcellus became a suspect and the police went to Marcellus's girlfriend to question her about it.
*SHE DID NOT GO TO THE POLICE FOR REWARD MONEY* . They came to her based on the tip they got from the jailhouse informant. When they questioned her, she explained the day Marcellus picked her up with bloody clothes on under a jacket on a hot day. She explained that she saw a purse in his car and thought he was cheating. Then she alleged that he explained what happened and who the purse belonged to before threatening her to keep quiet.
The laptop was sold 2 days after the murder. The jailhouse informant did not get out and go to thy police until a year later. 2 days after the murder there was no reward money and the GF didn't know the future so she had no reason to sit on her information for a year other than her being afraid of Williams.
To discredit the GF you would have to believe that she participated in a robbery murder in 1998, gave the laptop to Marcellus 2 days later to sell at a pawn shop, and planted 2 items from the victim's purse in his car trunk instead of just planting the whole purse. Then, she did nothing for a year until police came to her with questions about Marcellus.
How does that make sense? What was her angle? Set him up and don't tell anyone unless they come asking? Did she know that almost a year later there would be a reward offered for information if she just sat on the info long enough?
The only person who said the GF gave him the laptop was Marcellus. What is he expected to say? He offered no explanation for the other items found in his trunk.
He did not offer any plausible explanation for his connections to the murder. All his team did was try to cast doubt on the witnesses. They didn't even have a coherent story to explain all these things. That's why his conviction happened and was upheld.
If someone set him up, they did a great job. They left behind no evidence of a set up. No witnesses to any plot, no messages or recorded conversations. No ties between witnesses were ever discovered. No ties to any law enforcement or the victims husband were ever discovered. You can speculate wild theories that would make him innocent. The problem is that none of those theories have evidence to back them up.
My brother in Islam was found guilty. It was a reasonable conviction and upholding it was reasonable in my opinion. I didn't want that for him, and I hope we get a law that says a convict can't be executed if the victims family doesn't want it. But we have no such law and it just is what it is.
Bad to live in racist state
you can see the sincerity of his words and feel the true devotion to his creator. May Allah rest you in peace
Why now? why late to reveal the laptop evidence till after they killed him, so that he cannot defend him self, and why don't they investigate the buyer?
Now we talkin, they specifically said a Macintosh laptop was stolen and a purse. A calculator was found in Williams car during a search.
Williams gf said she saw scratches on his neck and blood on his shirt, she also did not accept the 5,000 information reward while the other guy who said William's sold him the laptop did. The was a 10,000 info reward. But they I'm not sure if they disclosed if it was a Mancintosh laptop.
It sounds like he did it but the way it was handled is fish af. It happened in 98, why kill him now, instead of just giving him life in prison. Apparently the laptop info was disclosed after they killed him.
Basically all this is to cause an uproar and get people distracted
RANDY WE DON'T!
Beyond a reasonable doubt
The way she was murdered seems more personal than just a robbery. I think the female was given the property and paid to help set things in motion to make him the main suspect. It’s strange that she waited for the reward, but never excepted it though🤔.
4:53 why do this? Because he was black and became a devout muslim.
He was also a CONVICTED! murderer, what's that allude about the other two things?
Exactly!!!!
You got it!!
@AmericanWarlord526 May people including the family of the victim said he was innocent. You need research.
It’s not about what you believe when it comes to murder, it’s about the facts.
I keep hearing from all these shows that EVEN the murdered womans family didn't want him executed, what they fail to say is some of the family felt that way and more importantly all of the family thought he was guilty of murdering an innocent woman taking a shower in her own home, a huge difference. The DNA evidence was from the detective and prosecuter touching the knife at a much later time. At the time touch DNA retreval did not exist but not because of some nefarious wrong doing. There was plenty of evidence showing his guilt its just that those opposing the death penality don't want to admit to it because of ideological reasons not the facts that a man who had previously commited 14 crimes some of them violent robberies had brutally murdered a woman while committing a robbery.
Maybe watch the video again. Why would you execute when there is doubt?
and what about the black jurors being removed just because of their race?
This has been a murder by the state! Who is responsible now for this murder?
He's been in jail since 1998. Why are people just now caring about this. Praying for the woman who was murdered.
He stopped short of calling it the cold-blooded murder of this innocent murder.
All these people crying about his death have no problem aborting a black baby.
This is horrible.
Remember it’s election year that’s why they went ahead
May Allah give him the highest paradise. May Allah forgive him and protect his family. May this nev repeat again. May both the victims be forgiven by the the creator. To him we belong and to him we shall all return.
Governer should be brought to justice
Trust does not mean there can be no failure
The original prosecutor admitted to jury nullification in favor of stacking a predominantly white jury.
So what’s your excuse for why the non-wight jurors convicted him? BTW, shame on you
So what’s your excuse for the non-wight jurors voting guilty? 🖕
No he didnt, thats a lie. You should look closer at this case and not just repeat talking points from this murders lawyers
Juries convict innocent people all too often for a variety of reasons, not all are valid or based on all the evidence.
@@MsMamaLeslie do you know literally nothing about this case?
I can't believe that's mistakes made in history are constantly being repeated!!!
Im disgusted. What a disgrace! Shame on or judicial system. How sad!😭💔
So it sounds like an innocent man was put to death. and the murderer if he or she is still living, is walking free!!!
It happens in the country of freedom and democracy where people s lives are taken without strong evidence of conviction 😢😢😢
🤬🤬🤬 I am from St Louis. We are so disheartened by this.
22 people testified against Williams
@@johntempleton3560 True but when some of the witnesses admit to being coerced & DNA evidence doesn't lead back to the defendant, that raises some doubt, therefore the execution should have at least been paused. Plus Greitens who was Governor before Parsons, granted a reprieve because of the DNA evidence. Not saying the man was innocent because I don't know all the facts, but the questions should have been enough to pause at least temporarily...Disheartening!
@JzanellJ i have doubts about witnesses being coerced but i still understand and respect your concerns. plus i appreciate your civility. take care
The appeals system doesn't work.
he is guilty even with appeals. Justice Served.
@@angiejorah Doesn't seem that way. What have they been doing for 20 years?
@@johnmorgun9961 he is guilty. Justice Served.
@@johnmorgun9961 For 20 years the justice system proved his guilt.
Worked perfectly in this case. Guilty beyond ALL doubt
You have DA and Prosecutors not Defended lawyers saying this case is skeptical due to evidence.
Missouri should have waited . Innocent man is gone , God have mercy over all. No one wanted to look at the evidence 🤷♀️
This could be anyone of us being on the chopping block due to a corrupt legal system of certain individuals.
Here's the dumb part of this whole talk.He said as heart tells him that he's wrong, but his head tells him he's right.Does he know that Marcellus girlfriend Gave him the laptop
Does his head tell him all the biological evidence points elsewhere?
Does he know speaking anything other than what the masses wants to hear can get one canceled or labeled.. probably.
Or that she was a drug addict s-x worker that “worked” and slept in that car? Or told her neighbor that she was getting paid to testify? Or that she lied on the stand about her own criminal record? Or that she said she saw deep scratches on Williams from Mrs. Gayle but no material was found under her fingernails?
What? Williams girlfriend have him the laptop? Ok? There was a calculator that belonged to Gayle in his car? Wtf is going on. This whole shit if fishy. Williams gf also said she found scratches on his neck and blood on his shirt
YEA THIS WILL ALWAYS BE WHEN ITS IN EVERY CULTURE AND RACE
It is every race and culture.. exactly what “culture” are you speaking of ? Ridiculous
There was evidence left out of the trial that shouldn’t have been.
Everyone I see Horaldo I shake my head. He got kicked out of Iraq for giving away the soldiers position by drawing a map on National TV. He’s a joke.
and he just parrots whatever the popular talking point is. He's lazy.
@@MatthewsSloan ????..........
You wanna talk about a supposed man whether he had a fair trial or not following his execution and couldn't bring neither the prosecutor nor defendant attorney actually related his case.
You just admitted that there was no physical evidence. Just the words of human beings incentivized to say he was guilty. And since the courts no longer have effective mechanism to correct mistakes, the fact that all of the courts refused to do so is not proof of guilt. It is an indictment on our current incarceration system in which innocence is no longer an option.
there was physical evidence
@YungBeezer none linked back to him .
@@anny1650 yes it did. Please. 20 minutes of independent research that isn't written by the defense or "The innocence project".
@@anny1650 yes, he had sold a laptop that was stolen from the victim’s residence, and items from the victim’s purse were found in the vehicle he was driving.
Nothing is perfect especially not the system
15 felonies is crazy though. It almost seemed like this guy was martyr the way people have been talking about this. I don’t think the death penalty was warranted here, because they didn’t have any proof. But this guy was far from a good person if he had 15 felonies
The D.N.A. evidence was not his u people trying to justify killing a innocent black GOD will judge u all
This was so sad! There is no such thing as a 'Justice" system, it's a legal system, period. Also, Gearldo is 81 years old
Because there may have been several people over at the victim Alicia’s house to leave hair and even the police officers fingerprint was on the knife. But by the time he was sentenced Marcellus was already doing a 20 year sentance for doing an armed robbery of innocent people in a donut shop. He was a professional armed robber with a very long criminal record. Ofc he knew to wear gloves when he merr derr ed Alicia. The media keeps saying it was his ex gf whom”said” Marcellus’ stuff was in his car. That’s not the whole story. The police did “retrieve” Alicia’s stolen belongings from th backseat of his car AND her purse from his trunk. Also erroneous for them to say his gf should have been a suspect. Alicia was staa bbed like 39 times, once right in the head. Believe me that WAS NOT done by a woman. I feel the same as Zelin here. It hurts the heart, but after 11 court hearing and Supreme Court hearing there was no evidence of his innocence. I disagree with using capital punishment at all on anyone, but right now we need to think about the victim Alicia. Imagine how scary it must have been to ger merr derr ed in her own home while showering. Defenceless. Her husband and fam will never see her again. ALL merr derr ers of women say they are innocent. They have brain issues that say they’re innocent. ALL OF THEM. One court of judge could make mistakes but not whole jury and 12 courts over 25 years. They’re NOT ALL id jits. Time to move on. Shame on media channels that don’t tell the truth about this case and gloss over facts to get ppl excited clicking viewing and crying. Shame. There’s an NPR written article posted now tho that tells the deets. And the Wikipedia page for the victim Alicia has some of the deets. The court docs are probably available online too. If someone thinks every court, Justice, prosecutors , over 25 years was corrupt they should dig in and read all the material instead of just getting emotional and angry and jumping to conclusions.
POLICE ARE PROVEN CORRUPT. THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED..OR THEIR ALLEGED EVIDENCE. REMEMBER THESE FACTS.
STOP SAYING YOU BELIEVE IN THE SYSTEM- ITS PROVEN FLAWED CONSTANTLY SO OF COURSE WE CANT TRUST IT!!!
Why would the female suspect try to collect on a reward when she’d already gave the purse and laptop to her boyfriend or left it in there to draw a connection where there wasn’t any since the hair and foot prints didn’t match
She didn't take the reward, she testified on her own fruition. It was offered she declined. What's that tell you?
She didn’t take Alicia’s belongings from Marcellus car. The police came and retrieved them from his back seat and her purse was in his trunk. He was already serving a 20 year sentence for armed robbery.
I wouldn't doubt that this is a political ploy to get rid of the death penalty. I would look deep and quietly into this!!
I doubt it. This isn't the first time a likely innocent man has been executed by the state. In fact, several years ago Missouri executed a known innocent man.
Or she was murdered as part of her investigations and with him now dead. The case is closer forever.
When will our justice system get it together
I mean he lost every appeal, was convicted of murder, if the argument is against capital punishment sure, but he is definitely guilty!
Lots of innocent people lose multiple appeals, only to later be found innocent after all.
@@Matty272 where is the evidence of lots??
It’s definitely rare, not the norm. We hear those stories because of just how rare they are. We don’t hear, hey there’s like 10k people in prison for murder and hey guess what they are guilty lol
He was clearly guilty the victims family never said he was innocent only that he doesnt deserve the death penalty.
100% guilty. Why don’t you talk about his innocent victims?
We dont need a justice system. You should just sign off all convictions
@@BobbyDazzler888he went through the justice system. He was proved guilty beyond all doubt
@@BobbyDazzler888 He was guilty. He was covered in blood, and even his girlfriend said he was, when he picked her up. Did he just happen to be covered in her blood? Eh? Please.
@@pommiebears Why does none of the dna evidence found at the scene match his? His girlfriend was incentivised to give testimony.
The victims family did not support him getting the death penalty
This is a travesty of misjustice as it sounds like there was some doubt here so they should’ve halted it! However if he did it then ok but if not this is crazy especially if they mentioned his DNA wasn’t found on the crime scene!
There was no doubt. Just politics. DNA wouldn't have exonerated him. His MO was to wear gloves. There was a whole detailed trial that went over mountains of evidence. If you look at the actual evidence and the reasoning around it. It's very clear to see that he did it. You can see why a jury of 12 people unanimously found him guilty, and why it held up for 20 years through tons of court cases. The defense had gotten to the point that they are making things up to get him out of facing justice.
it's the current prosecutor who trying to cast doubt on the case because he is far left and believes all black people are innocent despite the case having evidence that tie him to the case. his defense story makes no sense and I don't think I ever heard if he ever presented an alibi on the night of the murder.
Everything was great until the very ending when the LOUD end promo blew out my eardrums. Please fix that. It’s extremely annoying to viewers to have to hear the plug at the end. Terrible way to end vids y’all. 🙏