Quality content. UA-cam can be great. I only two or three years ago found my way to this kind of music. And now i am all into it. Greetings from the home country of Schubert.
When a great scholar has a chat like this about a sentinel piece of music and its composer, it enlivens and adds more to the piece. Winterreise, will always move me, and the more I learn the deeper its impact has.
The first official performance took place in 18 Jan. 1828 at Philharmonia Hall in Vienna. But only 'Gute Nacht' was sung by L. Tietze. It is Vogl who sang entire cycle in the house of Enderes in 1839, which is Haus Knozert, accompanied by the pianist Emanuel Mikschik shortly before his own death on the twelfth anniversary of the death of Schubert. The earliest public and documented recital of all of Winterreise was done by Julius Stockhausen in 31 Mar. 1862 in Hamburg.
There is something archetypal about the figure of the Hurdy-Gurdy Man. I recognize him as an image first encountered in my childhood. His origin is Eastern Europe. Why do I think he might be Jewish? The Fiddler on The Roof. The Rag Picker. The Outcast The Stranger among us who has looked upon things we all shy away from and so, we shy away from him all the while knowing he has something wise and terrible to teach us. Someone recently said to me that more than being loved, we need to feel that we belong. I thought about that and it feels right ! Family, Religion, Nation, City Class Sexual orientation Local Sports Team College Fraternity Political party These are things we belong to. We support them. We exalt them. We defend them. We oppose those who attack them. We feel elated when another member of our tribe succeeds. What does it feel like when we belong to no group? Who among us does not belong to any group? The beggar. The homeless The elderly living alone. The black man in a white world. The mis-shapen The grotesque. This is the Hurdy Gurdy man.....the Leiermann The one we fear most because he lives our greatest nightmare. But when we are dying we feel the ultimate alone-ness. We are alive but no longer belong to the world of the living. Perhaps Schubert, who was dying when he wrote this, was making common cause with the Leiermann. Outcasts... together. " May I come along? Will you play my song ?"
Taschenbuch 'Urania' auf das Jahr 1823. Leipzig. Arnold Brockhaus. It contains only first 12 lieder which Schubert composed in Feb. 1827. The all of 24 Lieder by Muelller are in the Gedichte aus den hinterlassenen Papieren eines reisenden Waldhornisten, II, Lieder des Lebens und der Liebe, Dessau: Christian G. Ackermann, 1824, 75-108
Quality content. UA-cam can be great. I only two or three years ago found my way to this kind of music. And now i am all into it. Greetings from the home country of Schubert.
Stokes’ obvious love of Schubert lights every word of this fascinating talk.
Funny to see you here. Great it is that you enjoy Schubert.
Peter Pringle your version of Der Leiermann was beautiful
Great German and English! You don’t see that often…
When a great scholar has a chat like this about a sentinel piece of music and its composer, it enlivens and adds more to the piece. Winterreise, will always move me, and the more I learn the deeper its impact has.
At 6:15 he talks about the first performance of Winterreise which was given, it was sung by Schubert himself, despite him already being so sick.
The first official performance took place in 18 Jan. 1828 at Philharmonia Hall in Vienna. But only 'Gute Nacht' was sung by L. Tietze. It is Vogl who sang entire cycle in the house of Enderes in 1839, which is Haus Knozert, accompanied by the pianist Emanuel Mikschik shortly before his own death on the twelfth anniversary of the death of Schubert. The earliest public and documented recital of all of Winterreise was done by Julius Stockhausen in 31 Mar. 1862 in Hamburg.
There is something archetypal about the figure of the Hurdy-Gurdy Man.
I recognize him as an image first encountered in my childhood.
His origin is Eastern Europe.
Why do I think he might be Jewish?
The Fiddler on The Roof.
The Rag Picker.
The Outcast
The Stranger among us who has looked upon things we all shy away from and so, we shy away from him all the while knowing he has something wise and terrible to teach us.
Someone recently said to me that more than being loved, we need to feel that we belong.
I thought about that and it feels right !
Family,
Religion,
Nation,
City
Class
Sexual orientation
Local Sports Team
College
Fraternity
Political party
These are things we belong to.
We support them.
We exalt them.
We defend them.
We oppose those who attack them.
We feel elated when another member of our tribe succeeds.
What does it feel like when we belong to no group?
Who among us does not belong to any group?
The beggar.
The homeless
The elderly living alone.
The black man in a white world.
The mis-shapen
The grotesque.
This is the Hurdy Gurdy man.....the Leiermann The one we fear most because he lives our greatest nightmare.
But when we are dying we feel the ultimate alone-ness.
We are alive but no longer belong to the world of the living.
Perhaps Schubert, who was dying when he wrote this, was making common cause with the Leiermann. Outcasts... together.
" May I come along? Will you play my song ?"
Thank you for this insightful comment.
Much food for thought while I study this work.
I’d like to hear Gert Westphal reading the Winterreise poems…
The thought came to mind as I listened..
Though there is no proof, did van Gogh also have syphilis?
What's the name of the book?
„Urania, ein Taschenbuch“ (I think). He said it right at the beginning.
Taschenbuch 'Urania' auf das Jahr 1823. Leipzig. Arnold Brockhaus. It contains only first 12 lieder which Schubert composed in Feb. 1827.
The all of 24 Lieder by Muelller are in the Gedichte aus den hinterlassenen Papieren eines reisenden Waldhornisten, II, Lieder des Lebens und der Liebe, Dessau: Christian G. Ackermann, 1824, 75-108
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