4WD AIRBAGS ? WATCH BEFORE YOU INSTALL ! Don’t get your system wrong !
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- SHOULD YOU FIT AIRBAGS TO YOUR 4WD? Load assist airbags are they a good idea? It’s has a remote control !
Load assist airbag kits have been around for a long time, more and more people are fitting them to vehicles carrying a heavy load. My experience with these loads assist kits goes back a fairly long time to my days in the mining industry, watching contractor vehicles driving in terrible conditions everyday with such kits installed.
I seen over time the best way to use these kits is with a decent load carrying leaf spring and they are brilliant when installed correctly, factor in also suspension compression and droop to insure the bag won’t tear or pinch on any range of motion with the suspension.
Some people think these can carry all the weight of the vehicles capacity, Remember these are load assist kits NOT complete load carrying. Sure the airbag can handle it but the parts of the vehicle the airbag is distributing the heavy loads is not designed to.
So i always have the mechanical engineered suspension components the manufacturer designed to carry 75% of the load I have. I then would apply a air assist bag to carry around 25% of the extra load.
This way I can still have a better ride day to day driving with out running a heavy 500kg or more constant leaf pack for example.
All this information is simply based of my experience with these kits.
I’ve listed expert company’s below who can help you out with a kit for your 4WD.
Www.airbagman.com.au
Www.bossairsuspension.com.au
Www.oot4wd.com.au
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Have you used bottom air bag cradles before? Rough country and Daystar make them, so you can leave the bottom of the bags disconnected for axle articulation.
Thanks Ty, your vids are always just down to earth & informative. Love your truck mate, I had an F100 around 40 years ago & I loved it too. Only sold it when I couldn’t fit the whole family in 😕. Cheers, Paul
Thanks Paul I really appreciate such awesome feed back ! I want to just be down to earth and just be myself... 😁👍🏼
Cheers for the info Ty. Much appreciated champion. Keep the great content coming. 👍🇦🇺🍺
Thanks mate 😁👍🏼 I’ll keep em coming mate ! Next few videos are going to be cool plus give away for 10000 subscribers 🤙🏼
Thanks man, I am now looking to upgrade my truck, your video is very informative. 🍻
Great video man. I’m just about to pull the trigger on some airbags for my ute. Already have 400kgs constant load spring and it handles great but sags just a bit too much with my caravan on. Have done plenty of research and chatting with suspension guys and engineers and this video highlights all the things I have learned in one great video. Well done.
Thanks mate stoked it helped you out ! 😎👍🏼
Well presented, too many people don’t run air bags and the ass is kissing the floor, then some go to the extreme and the trailer is pointing to the sky.
I have blown two air bags (Poly Air) with some rough tracks and since then went to AirBag Man with the sleeves. Zero issues now and only use the bags when towing. Makes a huge difference have the bags and only need to run 20-25psi dependant on the weight we have in the camper (2-2.5t) depending on the trip
The trailer is awesome
Good balanced discussion of airbags. Thanks. I like the 25 | 75 idea. Any ideas on how you might measure the load taken by the airbags, or is it a notional idea. I generally had limited my bags in a 2010 Hilux to about 20 psi. to level out weight of a full LongRanger 140 L steel fuel tank and give a bit of help to the leaf springs. Even then I managed to bust twice, both times might have had a leak in the airbag hose connection.
Very well explained mate, thanks for the great info!
Cheers mark 😁👍🏼
@@TyFenwick bit like myself mate I’ve been umming & ahhing for the last 9 months since I had the springs upgraded in my 2916 dual cab hilux. Definitely the last piece in the puzzle for my suspension & working beautifuly just as you explained. Such a great addition to level the vehicle out for whatever you require on any given day. I’m exactly as you are with the canopy not on all of the time & towing heavy work trailers & boats most of the time. Really enjoyed your vid where it’s all explained in simple common sense layman’s terms. Great job mate!
Thanks mark... I stoked you liked it mate 👍🏼😊
The 350 has the heavier springs and bigger payload. Weight difference between 250 and 350 isn't much at all.
Yeah just 1 leaf spring from memory mate, I think that’s the only difference with a 250 vs 350. Tow more with a 250 but 😁👍🏼
Great advice
Air bags equal less breaking in front. I couldn't believe it until I se the scale on all the tires.
Just watching, are you saying braking on front is worse?
@@brianlawrence8867 if 4 scales are put on the tires and there is a load on the back... as you pump air in the air bags the weight will decrease on the front. Think of a L bracket. The frame is the long part and the air bags is the short part. The higher you pump the air bags the more leverage is created. Less weight in the front means less steering and less breaking.
@@jessemeanlt1 thankyou.i take it from your origonal comment you physically saw it on the scales with your own eyes. Cheers
Kelderman have a great system designed for F series ! sorry (Ty don't like those brackets on chassis ) looks like it could fail with weight and corrugated roads but I hope it doesn't though ! It reminds me of the upper coil spring carriers in the rear of a patrol GU or GQ cheers mate see you on the tracks someday best regards
Hey Paul,
Yeah mate I’m aware of the kelderman 4 link full air systems. They are very expensive but this video more so explained just the assist bags across the board of utes not just applications for f series.
This system I’m confident won’t fail because majority of the load is always transferred into the leaf springs not the airbags. If anyone’s going to break it it’s me so see how we go 😂👍🏼
But yes if you want to spend big bucks on a 4 link complete leaf replacement then kelderman is the best option.
How have the Boss airbags faired after having them in for a couple of years now?
Been great mate no issues 👍🏼
Good info
Bloody Awesome clip Ty mate, absolutely loved this video 👍👌✌/🐺🐾/
Thank you Herbert ! Trying to be my self more and not so serious 😆👍🏼
@@TyFenwick Yes it's perfect Ty, it's if your really talking to us openly and put the Pro's and Con's out more like Ty Fenwick 👌 also loved the end "Awesome" priceless 👍
just a quick question what is a rough estimate on how much it would cost for a mits alloy tray and canopy setup on a 79 series (dual cab)
email them for a quote.
Hit them up mate, give the boys a call they will flick you over a quote with any options you like 😎👍🏼
thanks
How about an air suspension as a basic lift kit?
Is that make sense?
Is this a good idea? Make it like new defender air lift for all wheels.
Mmm not really unless you carry x4 spare airbags for worst case break down in remote locations
i wasnt aware you are a newcastle boy!
Sure am !
Hi Ty, I just finished watching your airbag video and I would to ask what made you decide on Boss airbag brand over the airbag Man brand..... my reason for asking is that I have a new F250 on order.
Cheers John
Nothing really made me go with that decision, it was more so that they had a kit ready on the shelf. The bags are much the same I’d say but with your new F250 you might need a custom set up made unless you source a kit directly from the US.
@@TyFenwick Many thanks for your reply, great videos always watch them.
Where's the ford ranger raptor i'm waiting for it by the way the camera quality it's so good what camera is that?
Ranger Raptor is gone mate unfortunately won’t be back on the channel, however I’m looking forward to possibly buying the new one.
The camera is a Cannon M50 with 50mm
What do you think about coil replacement with airbags?
Yes depending on the kit design and the airbag. On F trucks Kellerman do a great kit
How's it going 3 years on? I just ordered a full airbag kit for my 100 series through Airbag man. I have the same compressor you're running, I also plan to install front and rear lockers this time next year. Would like to know more info about the remote control style controller you went for. I reckon that would be good for mine. I feel you on leveling the tent also, last weekend i dug 2 holes about 1 ft deep on the passenger side, rolled the bus into the ruts and found my level that way... Looking forward to pressing a button.
Hello from Ireland 🇮🇪
Just a question.
I am planning to fit 315 tyres on my Renger Raptor as you have done, should I lift truck or it is ok as it is?
Gday mate do your bags fluctuate in pressure or do they hold steady?
They fluctuate I pump them up each day before I set off driving.
Did u built the trailer yourself or company
I had the trailer custom made my design mate 😎👍🏼
I vote drop it on its arse with 24s 😂
😂😂😂👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 no joke I think it would look cool
The fark is a shazzy
A very bogan AUSTRALIAN woman 🤣🤣🤣
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Great info mate. I’ve been interested in a set not so much for weight but for levelling the Alucab Rooftent at camp. Like how you give you own opinion rather than some sponsored guys who would just give you a sales pitch .
Thanks mate I really appreciate it 😎👍🏼
Man i wish they had F-trucks factory in Aus. You're the only channel I have found of someone making a touring setup for them. Once you Have finished you should make a toy hauler trailer to take advantage of all the that towing power 😤
Hahaha thanks mate really appreciate it 😁👍🏼
Great clip mate. I have an Aussie made Sunliner Camper on a Ford Ranger PX1 chassis. Leaf springs appear to be "constant load" installed by the manufacture. Would airbags assist in levelling up rear by 50mm and help prevent cornering roll?
It would help it but also look at a aftermarket rear sway bar to 👍🏼
Thanks mate I’m ordering airbag man, good info
Stupid question but.... let's say you have a low riding sport sedan and your pregnant wife wants you to trade it for a higher stance car, do you suppose one of these could be installed on it as an alternative for trading in your car?
Mmm it really depends on what your doing with the vehicle. If you’re looking to do 4wding or anything like that then best to upgrade the car.
The chassis above the axle has an anvil like plate welded added to beneath chassis where the bump stop slams into the chassis on full suspension compression does it not? It is a strong point of a leaf sprung vehicle too. I don't run airbags in my tourer. Sprung for its full time weight. I get what you are saying though.
Some good info thanx mate made my choice much easyer now just need to know more about gvm upgrades with springs and airbags
Sure, the weight wasn't designed to go on the one point, but! It was Also not designed to double your payload.
And that’s were most people get airbags wrong. Carrying way to much
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Good informational video man! I have 500kg leaf springs in my BT50 for when I had my canopy and now that I sold it I just get thrown around the cab as I always drive 700ks to work aha. Been looking at doing a rear coil conversion soon with 300kg for now so when my new tray gets fitted next days off and a new canopy getting built I can sit it in there and see if airbags will be required!
- Ashley 👌🏼
That sounds like the go mate, it’s such a fine line when setting up a heavy leaf pack or to soft of leaf pack. It’s especially hard when you take the load on and off the vehicle to find a sweet spot 👍🏼