How to install the Edelbrock 1406 Carb
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- This video covers the steps to remove the old factory Autolite 2100 carb on my 1966 Ford 289 and install a new Edelbrock 1406 Carburetor.
This video is part of a series of videos made to allow the engine breath better, so stick around for more content!!
Edelbrock Carb - part number 1406 Amazon Link - amzn.to/3zwsKsh
Edelbrock Metering Rod - part number 1451 Amazon Link - amzn.to/3zvpkWA
Edelbrock Metering Springs - part number 1464 (used Orange springs) Amazon Link - amzn.to/3yZiZkE
Edelbrock Jets - part number 1428
Phenolic 1" Spacer - Generic piece off Ebay
Edelbrock Performer 289 Intake - part number 2121 Amazon Link - amzn.to/442VaqQ
The car is a 1966 Mustang Fastback with a factory V8 and C4 transmission.
Shot with GoPro Hero 8 with the Media Mod, edited on Davinci Resolve 17.
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I'm normally a big Holley Carb fan. But lately I've been using these Edelbrocks. I think they are great for a good daily driver/cruiser 👍
I don't understand all the hate towards the Edelbrock, and I've had this same carb now on all three of my Mustangs. I would like to try the other side of the fence and see if it's greener over there. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel lol yup! At the end of the day, it's delivering the fuel to the intake. I just like the tuneability of the Edelbrock. I can change jets and/or metering rods without removing it or making a huge mess of fuel. I grew up with Holley carbs so I have my appreciation there too. But no these are fantastic carbs as well.
When I bought my 66 a month ago, it came with a 1406 on it. Nice to see its a good choice
The 1406 is a popular Carb for our cars, particularly because it has some head room for engine upgrades, and offers an electric choke. However, it's tuned from the factory for economy and emissions control, which is why I modified it to be like its "performance" brother, the 1405. :)
Great job, thanks for putting in the effort to make these videos.
You're welcome, thanks for the support!!
Great vids much appreciated ..( black 65 fastback ) Edelbrock 1406 Carb & Edelbrock 2121 , headers all in the mail ...you do some of the best video's. thank you sir
Thank you for the support! :)
Schweet! I have the same carb too! I know nothing about Edelbrock carbs, didn't realize it was tuned for fuel economy, thanks for skoolin' me! Also, I bought the Summit Racing SUM-G1532 inline fuel filter/line for it, thinking it will help in keeping the inlet in front of the carb closer to where the original Autolite carb had it, but I haven't gotten far enough yet to hook it up. I'm stuck trying to finish detailing my engine bay until the weather warms up! Thanks again for your helpful vids, I learn something every time!!!
Awesome, thanks for the support!
Now you know how a little more about that carb, you can give it a small bump in jet and rod size and see if the car feels a little snappier. :)
Always fun when you are missing pieces to finish a project. Happens to me almost every time! What's your plan for the fuel lines? AN, stock metal, or rubber?
Solid fuel line from the pump to the carb, but that'll be a separate video. :)
Edelbrock AVS2 working great for me it's like having a EFI
An EFI system would be fun, maybe down the road.....
AVS2s are the bomb!
Nice job showing howe to tune up a carb. I do feel like I just watched a strip tease, I was ready to hear that motor purrrrr and instead I’m left wanting more😎
The motor is purring, but louder now since it can breathe better. :)
Such a great video! Thank you for sharing your wisdom
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great Video Andy! I'm about to do the same upgrade. This video is invaluable, What would you say was the hp boost from stock?
That’s tough to say as there are so many factors from puting this carb on a tired, worn out motor to a brand new motor and everything in between. 🙂
Hey, Edelbrock brothers! Running a very similar setup, intake and all (performer RPM and AVS2)! I got a manual choke though, and now and I'm wondering if that was a bad choice. I don't have to mess with it ever really, but electric would probably keep it optimized! I hear people singing praise for Holley all the time, but I've never had a problem with my Edelbrock equipment! Runs well enough right out of the box, and tuning was breeze! Another great video!
Thanks for the feedback!
Having that manual choke isn't all bad, technically one would still need to dial up or down the choke on the side of the Carb for colder weather. Because of the winters we get here that car hasn't left the garage since November, so I don't really mess with the choke much.
Cool. This video came out just in time. Tomorrow I am about to give a good clean to my 1405. For some reason, it's not spraying gas... I think it might be the pump, but I am not 100% sure. I know gas is going in, but not sure if the reservoirs are getting filled. Once I remove the top I guess I will be able to see what the problem might be.
Awesome, Good luck!
Another great video Andy! I’ll keep an eye out for that 2bbl if you ever decide to part with it. 😉
I have it in FB and Craigslist right now, but due to its weight, I think a local sale is best. Shipping something that heavy quickly becomes more money than it’s worth. 😁
Andy, do you know if your manifold and carb setup would leave enough clearance for a stock (non hood scoop) hood? (Great editing on your videos. Thanks and keep 'em coming!)
Without that black phenolic spacer below the Carb, yes. If you wanted that spacer, you have to get an air filter with a "drop frame", where the bottom tray of the filter is shaped to allow a 3" tall filter without sacrificing something like the hood. Also, the hood scope on this hood is purely aesthetic, the previous owner grafted it onto the stock hood and never cut a hole for air flow, so you could use my hood as a gauge on how your setup my fit. :)
Hey andy thanks for this video, i am setting up my 1406 on a performer also i installed everything accordingly but my vacuum source i didn't get it from the pcv valve i got it from the manifold behind the carburetor and it seems to idle pretty funky, i tried to do a snap acceleration in park and it almost wants to stall i have to gently eas on the gas so it does shut off,
Also i didn't put the gasket spacer you have on the video so probably i might have a vacuum leak maybe? Or could it be a bad accelerator pump? I bought the carburetor used so i installed it just like that, is there something im missing?
Thanks
Yes, you need a gasket between the carb and intake manifold. Vacuum leaks can cause the bogging you are referring to, but so can other issues. You might need to buy a rebuild kit if you don't know the status of the used carb. :)
Hey Andy! Thanks for the video. Curious where you wired your electric choke?
I added a relay that was triggered from the Ignition terminal on the starter solenoid. It is probably overkill as the choke doesn't pull many amps, and not everything needs a dedicated circuit, but I like it that way. I made a video on it, check it out! :)
Awesome video, watched and rewatched this one today during my install.
Have you had to deal with a hot air choke tube coming off the exhaust manifold? More specifically, I had a tube coming from my exhaust manifold to the carb - which I found out was a hot air tube - did you delete these in any of your mustangs when converting to an electric choke carb? If so, how did you do it? Thanks!
Thanks!
My first mustang had that tube, but I damaged it before I realized what it was. If you have this Edelbrock carb, you no longer need that tube as the electric choke will do the work that the original choke and hot-tube were doing. You can just cut it off the manifold is it's all rusty down there, otherwise, I think it just pulls out of the manifold. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel outstanding, thank you sir!
Great video! Keep up the great content!
Thank you! Will do!
Maybe it's a color distortion by the camera but it looked like you picked the gold springs instead of the orange springs that I thought I saw in the package. I can only apologize if I am wrong, just trying to be helpfull. I still enjoyed the video 😄
I think you're right, the camera is distorting the colors a little, we've got the correct springs. :)
Am I imagining it or did you say in a video that you had issues with the carb and had to put the stock metering jets back in?
A while back I swapped the jets and rods back to stock because I was finding that the upgraded ones I put in were a pinch too rich for my liking. I didn't have the sizes that were between the stock sizes and the upgraded sizes, so I just put them back to stock with the intention that I'd get back in there and tweak them again. Since that time, I had decided to do the 347 build and I figured that I'd need different sizes again, so I just put a pin in it until the engine build was finished. :)
Another great video, I gotta give you crap for not putting a Holley on...haha. A consideration, instead of using stock throttle linkage, use a scott drake billet one part # C5ZZ-9A702-BL. Put it on my fastback gives it a slight custom look and doesn't require all the other small parts the stock one does.
It's funny you mention throttle linkage....... :)
I'm upgrading to an Edelbrock on my 65. What throttle linkage part did you have to get?
Back when I had that Carb, I ended up threading the end of that linkage and installed a nut just to get it to work, so I could drive it. I would not recommend that today, in fact, I now sell a Throttle Linkage that would bolt right up to and remove the issue I created back then. You can check it out on my website KruseBuilt if you're interested. :)
Is there anything Andy cannot do!?!?!🔥❤🔥❤
That list is longer than my.... Um, that's a long list. :)
No you should have gone with the edelbrock AVS2 it's like having a EFI
A 4bbl is always a good & affordable start but....This car deserves more motor don't you think? !! , do you have any plans to do heads and cam at least? Buy a cheap explorer roller and build it as Money allows maybe?
I'd like to do a 347 Stroker, but that setup is way to expensive for my small budget right now. I'm focusing on getting the car dialed in, then I'll throw more power at it. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel I ve had both a 347 & 363 in my FB both are great but a budget build roller 306 with some decent heads and cam is plenty fun in these cars. Its can be done for only a few grand with the right amount of planning ahead . something to think about for future vids.
Do you have to adjust a lot on those carbs when you buy them new?
Yes and no. They'll work right out of the box, but the idle mixture screws and throttle adjustment screws will need to be dialed in after you install it. From there you'll want to adjust the choke (if the carb has one) and then you can dive into the Jets and Rods. :)
I have this same carb on my 66 mustang. How did you plumb the PCV? I purchased the stock bent hose only to realize that Edelbrock has PCV to the front of the carb not the rear. The valve on the valve cover is 1/2” but the port to the carb is 3/8”.
I used some heater hose to route from the PCV on the valve cover to the front of the Carb, no big deal. :)
Hey do you have a picture of the side view of the carb? On the side with with pedal link
Sorry, I don’t have that carb anymore.
please tell me what video follows this one: finishing this one ?
i'm trying to figure out how to plumb distributer vacuum advance with new manifold? THANKS!
The vacuum advance line from the distributor goes to the carburetor, not the intake manifold. On my Carb it's the port on the left hand side (if you're looking at it from the front of the car), and it's called the "Timed Vacuum Port".
What part did you have to order to make the stock pedal linkage rod work? Does it not just go where you have it in the video?
At the time I made this video, I thought there was a piece I could order to connect that stock linkage piece to the Edelbrock Carb, turns out I could not. In fact, the video I made right after this one was making a custom throttle linkage since I could not easily make that stock one work. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel Im on your channel right now! Which vid is that!?!
Also who (what kind of shop) did you have flare the hard fuel line and put the fitting on it? Putting my 1406 on my 1966 can you tell? Lol
@@toddzukowski9083 Hardline was purchased off eBay. :)
Why did you want this to be like a 1405? More HP/performance over fuel efficiency? I got a 67 Pony with a 289 2-barrel in March. New to this hobby. I like the detail of your vids. Thanks
The 1406 has an electric choke and is tuned towards fuel economy. I think it has something to do with California Emissions Legal something something. For me, it was easier to get the 1406 than to buy a 1405 and buy an electric choke kit. I definitely want the electric choke because of the temperature delta through out the year in my area.
These days fuel economy almost sounds more interesting than extra power, but since I rarely drive the car, I'd rather have a little more punch than an extra 2 miles per gallon. In another video I replaced the Jets and Rods with the same sizes found in the 1405, but a while later I ended up going back to the stock 1406 sizes (car was running too rich). I could have found sizes in between the 1406 and 1405 sizes, but I figured I'd deal with that later. I think my biggest issue is that the 1406 (600cfm) is too large for a relatively stock 289. Even though I have an upgraded intake manifold and complete exhaust, the 1406 is too much for this motor. A 500 or 550 cfm unit would probably be a better fit.
@@AndyKruseChannel Thank you for the reply. I was considering a 600cfm but now I will go for the 500cfm. Looking forward to your next vid.
@@AndyKruseChannel which edelbrock 500 or 550 would you recommend? What model #? Thanks Andy. Love your vids!
@@daveyhen3518 Without knowing what engine you're putting it on, where or not you're setup with a Choke cable, and the kind of weather you drive in, the Edelbrock 1403 is nice because it has an electric choke (requires less drive input for each start up). I do like how easy it is to change the Jets and Rods in an Edelbrock Carb, but I've got to be honest, I've become a Holley guy about 2 years ago. One could argue that the Edelbrock is easier to tune, and they're cheaper (for the same size and options), but I've been happier with my Holley since I put the 347 in my car. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel 289 bone stock. 2 bbl. I’m in Toronto, but I never take it out in the cold months. Already have the 2121 intake. But after some research and comments, the 1406 sounds like overkill. Was thinking the 1901AVS or the 1403 like you suggested 😀. Thanks for replying. Love your channel, I’ve learnt so much.
Great video
Thanks!
Hey Andy. Have you considered fuel pressure regulator or?
No, I don't think I need one. I'm not having a fueling issue, and the motor is relatively stock so the factory fuel pump is able to keep up. :)
What about transmission throttle linkage at the bottom ? Does anything have to be done with that when upgrading from a 2 to 4 barrel carb
Cartoon! One of the early subscribers here!
Are you referring to the kick-down linkage for Autos? If so, you'll want to keep that linkage and it may require a custom touch to make it work with whatever Carb you choose.
@@AndyKruseChannel thanks Andy. I have a 66 and I basically follow your lead. I upgraded to edlebrock 4 barrel intake and carb. I have a C4 trans for now, but I noticed there is slack in the kick down linkage with transmission. I will take a look at adjusting. Thanks for your content it’s so helpful!!!
Hey Andy, what kind of carb spacer did you use?
It's a generic 1 inch Phenolic spacer, purchased off Ebay. The Phenolic material helps isolate the carb from the manifold, reducing any heat-soak that could happen. :)
Hi Andy. Critical voices are telling me, that the constellation with a 1406 is to large af Carb. What are your experience now, and have you done any other changes to the engine??
I am thinking of doing the same settings as you, so a 1406 carb, 2121 intake, and new headers to.
The 1406 is on the cusp of too large for the 289, even with simple bolt-ons like intakes and exhaust. If someone were to do more, like a cam, then this carb begins to be something that will work great. I haven't done anything else engine wise, yet...... :)
@@AndyKruseChannel have you experienced problems with your setup?
@@boniebuhr5973 No problems other than finding the larger jets and rods I added a while back were too big. I always got out of the car smelling like gasoline every time I drove it. I put the stock sizes back in the carb and the smell went away. I figured the upgrades I've done to the motor to allow it to breath better still didn't warrant the larger jets and rods. Beyond that, the electric choke works every time and I'm not having any weird idle or driving problems. This carb has been great, and I've put a 1406 on all three of my classic Mustangs.
@@AndyKruseChannel Thanks for info - I will them stick on to the stock sizes for jets and rods. :)
Cute engine
It sure is!
out of curiousity why did you make the jet change without even knowing where carb was at in the begining ?
I went down a rabbit hole online about people tweaking this carb on these motors. A few months later I went back to stock because I had plans to start from the beginning. I also had this same carb on my last Mustang and I was happy with the rods and jets on that car, so I knew where I wanted to be. But this is not the same motor as my last car, that’s why I went back to stock settings.
@@AndyKruseChannel lol your an alright guy appreciate the honesty Andy !
@@Donny.C.wlWilliams I try to be, but we all have our demons.
Why do you need that spacer on there?
The biggest reason is to keep the Carb from getting heat-soaked by the heat carried through the intake manifold. It also provides a little space under the carb for routing things like the heater hose, wiring, etc without needing to cram things in place. :)
No shame in using an Edelbrock carb! AVS2 works just fine on my 289!
I’m running an AVS2 on my 289 as well 👌🏼
The AVS2 would have been good, if only I could have gotten as good of deal on it. :)
Love my AVS2! You all rocking manual or electronic choke?
@@StankyPete9 I have an electric choke, how about you?
@@StankyPete9 Electric choke on mine
Hey bro how do i find that manifold? Tia.
Are you talking about the Edelbrock Performer 289 manifold that I install in this video? It's part number is 2121, lots of places sell it.
@@AndyKruseChannel yes! I found it! Thank you!
CAN I RUN THIS CARB ON STOCK MANIFOLD?
I believe you can, I believe you can purchase an adapter that bolts to the stock manifold and has the bolt pattern for standard aftermarket carbs like this one in the video. :)
Is the spacer necessary?
What does it do?
I wanted/needed more clearance under the components attached to the carb, that phenolic spacer gave me the room I needed. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel
Holy cow, you replied.
Thank you
@@bucky0868 Haha, I do my best to reply to every comment. 😀
@@AndyKruseChannel
I am building a ‘68 rustang. Could you please explain the three vacume lines in the front of the carb? Ie. Where they go etc.
Is the phenolic spacer necessary?
Other than give you clearance under the carb, does it do anything else?
Also, this Mustang is a father/son project. I’ve built Harley’s before, but this carb is a new fromtier for me.
Thanks for all these video’s. It’s a great help for my son and i. My son is on the spectrum, so when he asked to build this, there was no way i could say no.
@@bucky0868 Those three ports each have a different job, but important in their own way. All three are vacuum ports, and none of them should be left open as it will greatly affect how the car runs. The easiest port is the center port, and it's most common use is to connect it to one of the two valve covers for the PCV (usually the passenger side). The PCV is the Positive Crankcase Ventilation, a quasi-emissions control device that pulls vapors and pressure from the crank case. In the video I didn't have that specific hose and new PCV, but I have since added it, you can see it in later videos. The port on your left hand side of the carb is the "Timed Vacuum Port". It's mostly for vehicles with distributors with emissions controls. I don't think I've seen anyone use that port for cars like ours, but somebody probably uses it. The port on your right hand side of the carb is the "Manifold Vacuum Port" and this is the one you want to connect to your vacuum advance port on the distributor, if you're using the vacuum advance mechanism on the distributor. Some people don't use that feature on their Distro, so they just cover that port on the carb.
That spacer has some additional benefits, but they're minor. One, that plastic spacer isolates the carb from the intake manifold that can get hot. A hot carb will run less efficient that a cooler unit. Also, the spacer adds another inch of "runner length", potentially creating a pinch more torque, but I cannot verify that, it's just what some manufacturers have done with more modern cars. And lastly, the added height, which may or may not help in your setup. :)
Edelbrocks are much better than holleys for daily drivers. The holly carbs are able to get higher max HP 'though.
Yep, figured that out later. Have a Holley now. 🙂
Nice tight editing. Cutting out all the stuff that isn’t important. One thing I would have like to have known is what’s the difference with the parts you changed out. Perhaps you’ll talk about that in a tuning video?
Thanks!
Do you mean compare the stock parts to the new parts?
@@AndyKruseChannel The 1406 to the 1405. You said the electric choke was different but then what are the jetting changes. Are they just richer?
@@swooshdave The 1405 Carb has manual choke and is tuned more towards performance from the factory (although further tuning is usually required). The 1406 has the same 600 cfm as the 1405, but it has an electric choke and it is tuned for fuel economy (leaner) from the factory. The changes I made swapped out the rods and jets from my 1406 to the same units used in the 1405, which gives the Carb a slightly more "performance" tune right out of the gate. I will need to further tune my Carb to eek out every last bit of power, but I'm waiting until I decide where I'm going with additional performance parts. If a guy did the same changes I made to the 1406, and also swapped in an aftermarket intake and headers, this setting I put the Carb at (which is the stock 1405 tuning) is a great place to start.
@@AndyKruseChannel Would you be able to share the numbers on the jets you took out? That might tell me if mine are the economy or non-economy version. I get such horrible gas mileage I’d hate to find out I had the economy tune. An O2 sensor is in my future.
@@swooshdave There are charts out there (called the calibration reference chart) that show the tuning for each Carb, with the center being the stock Jet and Rod sizes. If you look up the 1406 chart, you'll see the Main Jets are 0.098" and the Metering Rod is 0.075" x 0.047". What I did was change those out for the stock sizes of the 1405 which is 0.100" for the Main Jets and 0.070" x 0.047" for the Metering Rods. Now that my Carb is sitting at the factory tune for the 1405, I will continue to use the 1405 chart as I work my through the tuning process. Other than the electronic choke and the factory sized Jets and Rods, the 1405 and 1406 are identical Carbs. This is how I can safely and reliably use the 1405 tuning chart and I move forward.
5:35 monkey carb
Sorry, I don't understand the reference. :)
ha ha dose look like a monkey face.. lmao
Sorry but I think those Edsel rock carbs are garbage hopefully yours is better I had to reman carbs still wasn’t worth using
Yeah, Edelbrock is not for everyone.