I think you miss spoke about encore. That’s not how it works. If you have 2 stacks of the range buff and get a non precision kill it removes one stack of the range buff, but DOESNT APPLY THE STABILITY BUFF. The stability buff is not applied until all stacks of the range buff are removed. You can’t have the benefits of the range stack and the stability stack together
You have convinced me to try out Encore, I was under the impression that a body shot kill removed all stacks of the range buff. That's a fantastic perk! Shame on me for not verifying for myself and writing it off
I am pretty sure the perk explicitly states only after removing the final range buff stack do you get the stability and accuracy buff. Unless the removing of a stack from getting a body shot kill resets the timer which could be kinda nice I think I would actually prefer it removing all stacks in exchange for body shot kills always giving the buff.
I’ve got a Punching Out sidearm with kill clip and encore that I got during last season. Absolute monster in PvP. Encore is super solid and the automatic activation feels so nice. You should really try it out on some close range weapons, that’s where is shines the most. Really hope more weapons get encore especially some pulse rifles.
Rangefinder, killclip is better trust me dude, I've got 1300 kills with it and almost went flawless with my double primary loadout and I'm considered myself a PvE main.
I'm really liking these vow weapons. Idk if I'd say they're staples of the pvp meta like fatebringer and found verdict but they feel like they have an identity and can definitely hang at the upper levels. I've overlooked submission a bit I'll admit but insidious is quickly becoming one of my favorite weapons in the franchise.
One thing I really like about the resonance weapons is that you can see perks that you would otherwise avoid. I got encore on one and while it didn't do much for me, cause I was simply grinding it out, I got to see what it could do and that the perk was quite interesting and had potential.
Forgot to mention that what’s making the gun perform really good is the golden guns practice makes perfect buff any other subclass this gun isn’t performing as well as that I know because I got that exact roll to drop on my first raid and tested it and for me I don’t like guns that only work with a specific subclass but too each their own that’s why I think many people just prefer multimach it performs well all the time even without getting the first kill to get the buffs
I can picture this gun allowing you win many 1v2 or 1v3 situations. You get a body shot with a sniper, clean up with the smg, steam roll the next 1 or 2 opponents. Perfect roll imo.
Great vid. My only question would be why not Smallbore instead of Polygonal? Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Smallbore would be +6 Stab & +6 Range vs Polygonal +9 Stab. Which would take your Stability overall from 73 to 70 (still allowing for 100 with Encore buff) but then increasing Range from 41 to 47.
Of the legendary drops from VoD I'm yet to find one I'd consider underwhelming (aside from the glaive which I'm yet to get, but if it's like any other glaive it's sure to be underwhelming because it's not void) even with non-"god roll" perks. The LFR is almost a permanent part of my loadout. And I've rotated the pulse rifle and the SMG into my loadout almost all the time. I can't craft any of them but the LFR, and I still find them to be really good weapons. Some people are just too quick to dismiss new weapons, mostly because they lack the foresight or creativity to see their potential and create builds to get the best out of them. I learned that this season when I dismissed the default glaive until I saw people using it in void 3.0 builds (still seems like a kind of useless weapon in the hands of a titan though), and perhaps the exotic glaives and the VoD glaive will get their time to shine under the new 3.0 subclass system when they roll it out of solar and arc.
I crafted a max range submission 2 weeks ago with enhanced encore and enhanced kw, and as an mnk player with thousands of kills on a less than perfect multimach, I still think multimach wins. Max range on the submission gives it just under 20m of range, whereas a perfect multimach (kw and iron reach) has ~25 m. My multimach is appended and stability mw as opposed to accurized and range mw giving me around 21.5m, and it still feels like I need encore's range buff to proc 2x in order to even mimic my multimach passively. If I'm not mistaken, the falloff multiplier increase of kw does more for multimach due to its higher zoom, and as an mnk player, stability makes next to no difference on smgs. IF you could keep encore range x3 up all the time with killing wind, you might be able to operate on the level that multimach can, but it just seems like so much more effort. It's possible that submission's comparatively better stability and ability to get more off encore benefits a controller player, but I just don't think that's the case on mnk. TL;DR saladman's smg still better
This is the perk combo that immediately caught my eye. I haven't dug into thinking about the barrel and magazine yet, so thank you immensely for digging into it! I've already replaced my Multimach with my Funnelweb, but now I'll have a kinetic option to open up my energy slot!
Pretty cool! I know things feel and work a little different on m&k but I have been adoring my funnelweb, I am not a sub machinegun player but I threw it on for a single game so I could get the sniper quest done and I was laying people out with funnelweb. Chambered comp keeps it stable, accurized rounds and rangefinder really push it out which saved me a few times and killing wind for everything mentioned in your video. It was just fun! Felt like I could not only fight in any distance but I could actually win easily too. Thanks for the awesome content!
I know this is an old video, I am generally a solo player or am playing with one of my son's. With the new LFG system I have been able to do some raids now and when Vow was the weekly raid I kind of farmed it (enough to even get collective obligation which is my only raid exotic so far). I have always wanted insidious and submission and a few rolls to play with now. Main reason I wanted to comment now is because I was on your stream that you raided Seeker when you were wrapping up and I follow him now. I have not yet raided with him but he is always helping out his viewers!
Amazing roll 🙌🏼 i crafted mine exactly the same... The thing I don't understand is why the numbers on mine are different than his .... They're lower ☹️
I have encore on my adept igneous hammer and it's so nice to have. The roll is polygonal rifling, appended mag, encore and celarity with a range master work. It's so smooth and crisp
VoD weapons are overlooked, they're so good and I am working on getting the SMG to craft, just finished getting my Insidious Enhanced Rapid-Hit as it makes the gun a hard hitting laser beam
I would love to sherpa some folks through Vow of the Disciple! All I ask is the time commitment, a willingness to communicate, cooperate, and learn, and 1530+ Power. If you fear you aren’t raid ready for DPS, did you craft a Palmyra-B with Auto-Loading + Explosive Light? Do you have Sleeper Simulant, Whisper of the Worm, or Gjallarhorn with catalyst? Do you own Adored or Ascendancy? Do you own Parasite and Grenade Launcher Holster? Do you own any Special or Heavy weapon that could be described as having a damage and/or ammo-related perk? If you answered yes to any of these, you are raid ready for DPS. If you fear the mechanics, you can study up in advance; I recommend looking up the official names of the glyphs. That is 80% of the challenge of the raid. Know them, and you’re almost done with the raid already.
Well, I’m officially sold on these perks. I’d been skeptical of Encore, but you’ve convinced me. This and Insidious are what I’m going for now I have my Deliverance.
I just got your exact roll with the adept version. The other selectable perks are subsistence and demolitionist. I had watched your video earlier and had to double check that the barrel and mag options were the same. You aren't lying, it's good in pvp.
@9:10 this was the exact reason I went and found the LFG discord. If nothing, and I mean nothing else, doing one clear gives you something to get excited for when it comes to bonus chests. One clear gives you a week by week drip feed at the very least and that alone is worth it.
Even if you haven't raided before, just take it like I have been this season -- once a week, taking it chill. There's no rush. One guaranteed red per week, no muss, no fuss. I already have the Submission pattern unlocked, loved it since it first dropped for me in the first encounter on day 1. Working on Insidious now. Haven't even gotten that lucky with reds outside of the end chest, got like, 1 extra so far. Just have fun.
I might have to craft a a while new submission for this seems awsome. On the other hand, I'm loving it with perpetual motion and harmony, it's a blast to pair with wolftone draw, also with harmony.
I'm jealous that your tripmine grenades are going out and aligning how you want them to. Whenever I run that or spike grenades (which is often) they always face towards the floor or the ceiling, not where it could actually do damage
I always appreciate how wholesome you are. Just a pleasant video and your "Be warm and well fed my friends" is kindest outro I've heard. Now I'm on my way to farm for this thing lol
the submission.... as soon as i knew it was a 900RPM, i had set my eyes on it. unfortunatly, its a kenetic, and let me explain why: back in the day, i was able to get my hand on a subjunctive, an arc smg, 900RPM. it had outlaw/multiclip ricochet rounds and corkscrew barrel. i "only" had 27464 kills with it, basicly showing it was my most favorite smg at that time. boy was i pissed when they decided to sunset it. in comes wich queen, when i saw the submission smg in the pool, i had my hopes up. and oh boy, it delivered even beyond my hopes. last week i was finally able to get my hands on the last red bar i needed, went and crafted my version and yep.... its the best smg i got my hands on since my old subjunctive. im actually in the process of leveling 2 of them.,... one for pvp, the other for pve.
I’m insanely happy with my enhanced perpetual motion/ enhanced killing wind crafted roll since it has better stats than any of my multimachs, but seeing this video does make me regret dismantling the encore roll I had. I’ll have to be on the lookout for another one
I was amazed at the stability. I always over compensate for recoil with this thing but I love it. Its been one of my goto weapons in crucible on small maps. Pairing it with dead messenger is a lot of fun.
On a sidenote, I love your off-meta loadout with double primary + Young Ahamkara's Spine. I mained this build in the entire last season (with NTTE + good old Ikelos SMG), was super rewarding and fun to play! Looking forward to finally collecting all the Insidious frames to craft my god roll.
Thank you for this. I've had a few of my homies tell me I'm crazy for dropping my multimach for submission but idc. I absolutely love this smg. Can't wait till I can craft one
with accurized and hammer forged you can still get 54 range (63 if you get a range mw or craft an extra 10 range) and a good amount of stability as well instead of the whopping 18 stability multimach has
Thank you for this man I didn’t realize this smg had beef with the others since funnelweb has dared to challenge everything but also multimach has been strong as hell, as well as it’s brother escape velocity which is a comfier multimach
honestly i have a submission with encore and demo (wish i had killing wind), but it was doing working iron banner and regular games so ye its really damn nice
Running range up front and perpetual motion feels head and shoulders more valuable up front than the Encore mini-game hoops to get the buffs. The 60 total stability with Perpetual x2 is more than enough plus the reload buff suit the gun way more in my opinion. Killing wind is 100% the way to go though I agree, the maxed handling, 83 range(with a range set up) and the increased strafe while aiming make it a monster. Its never going to reach out as far as multimach, so I prefer to play it as an actual 900 rpm and rule the normal 900 rpm range instead of trying to square peg Encore into being useful. When it comes down to it the immediate stat boost of Perpetual and the reload speed it gives is much more valuable to me on an smg than the kill required buffs from Encore.
@@zeikenfield8080 He never said it was both. It’s the fact every kill you get buffs one of the weapons two weakest traits. Every kill will give you the stat bonus. You will only lose the buff from dying or not getting another kill within a very generous time frame. Perpetual motion really isn’t helping you win many fun fights when compared to Encore. Use the perk enough and you’ll understand why.
Everything about this SMG *on paper* seems like nothing special, but seeing you play with it makes me think I will LOVE it. It just looks like one of those "Bungie Special Sauce Supreme" weapons complete with extra buttery smooth goodness. I haven't done the raid yet, but this and the Deliverance in particular are making me think of trying it.
I have only got two of these, only 1 being a red border, but the first one I got has an amazing set of pve perks that I love, being subsistence and frenzy, which, while not being great in pvp, it still makes it a majorly fun weapon to use in pve, while still being effective, given I've always been an smg fan for pve, since the beginning of d2 when I found the variant
I have a threat detector kill clip roll and ive put a couple thousand kills on it. I love it for the aggression it gives and it still has a lot of range with the model red. I picked up almost that exact same roll on a random drop. I agree it's good but I felt like i was getting ghost bullets a lot of the time
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My boy Seek!
Does he do it on Xbox?
I think you miss spoke about encore. That’s not how it works.
If you have 2 stacks of the range buff and get a non precision kill it removes one stack of the range buff, but DOESNT APPLY THE STABILITY BUFF. The stability buff is not applied until all stacks of the range buff are removed. You can’t have the benefits of the range stack and the stability stack together
Disgusting! I love it.
1:00 can't we just stop and appreciate that 3 knife throw crit kills in a row? Thats *chef kiss*
You have convinced me to try out Encore, I was under the impression that a body shot kill removed all stacks of the range buff. That's a fantastic perk! Shame on me for not verifying for myself and writing it off
I am pretty sure the perk explicitly states only after removing the final range buff stack do you get the stability and accuracy buff. Unless the removing of a stack from getting a body shot kill resets the timer which could be kinda nice I think I would actually prefer it removing all stacks in exchange for body shot kills always giving the buff.
@@samuelcarter76 100%
I’ve got a Punching Out sidearm with kill clip and encore that I got during last season. Absolute monster in PvP. Encore is super solid and the automatic activation feels so nice. You should really try it out on some close range weapons, that’s where is shines the most. Really hope more weapons get encore especially some pulse rifles.
Rangefinder, killclip is better trust me dude, I've got 1300 kills with it and almost went flawless with my double primary loadout and I'm considered myself a PvE main.
@@AnonYmouSchris19 Your referring to punching out right?
I'm really liking these vow weapons. Idk if I'd say they're staples of the pvp meta like fatebringer and found verdict but they feel like they have an identity and can definitely hang at the upper levels. I've overlooked submission a bit I'll admit but insidious is quickly becoming one of my favorite weapons in the franchise.
One thing I really like about the resonance weapons is that you can see perks that you would otherwise avoid. I got encore on one and while it didn't do much for me, cause I was simply grinding it out, I got to see what it could do and that the perk was quite interesting and had potential.
Thanks for your thoughts on this TV. I snagged a slick we-ran with the roll I crafted from this vid. Good stuff.
Always appreciate your reviews brother! Also appreciated your comments on Twitter this morning. Keep up the good fight
I love the Doc shout out at 7:26 haha. Smoove move.
"dont build this like a multimach"
proceeds to build it like a multimach
Forgot to mention that what’s making the gun perform really good is the golden guns practice makes perfect buff any other subclass this gun isn’t performing as well as that I know because I got that exact roll to drop on my first raid and tested it and for me I don’t like guns that only work with a specific subclass but too each their own that’s why I think many people just prefer multimach it performs well all the time even without getting the first kill to get the buffs
Wtf are you smoking?
This man need to take a breath. But I do understand not liking weapons that only work with one subclass, I still save them. It’s what the vault is for
What’s a period, dawg
This perk combo works just fine with any subclass.
@@anthonymcdonald1906 but stability and handling are enhanced by "Knock em' down" from Way of the Sharpshooter, that's what OP was trying to say
"Oh my traveler" ...Triple precision knife streak 👀
I can picture this gun allowing you win many 1v2 or 1v3 situations. You get a body shot with a sniper, clean up with the smg, steam roll the next 1 or 2 opponents. Perfect roll imo.
Great vid. My only question would be why not Smallbore instead of Polygonal? Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Smallbore would be +6 Stab & +6 Range vs Polygonal +9 Stab. Which would take your Stability overall from 73 to 70 (still allowing for 100 with Encore buff) but then increasing Range from 41 to 47.
1:02 ain't nobody talking about how clean that was?
I saw that cheeky three piece with the throwing knives TV
Loving the Doc reference. WAKE UP TV!!!
You make a very valid argument for the perks that I will have to try on my crafted version
Of the legendary drops from VoD I'm yet to find one I'd consider underwhelming (aside from the glaive which I'm yet to get, but if it's like any other glaive it's sure to be underwhelming because it's not void) even with non-"god roll" perks. The LFR is almost a permanent part of my loadout. And I've rotated the pulse rifle and the SMG into my loadout almost all the time. I can't craft any of them but the LFR, and I still find them to be really good weapons. Some people are just too quick to dismiss new weapons, mostly because they lack the foresight or creativity to see their potential and create builds to get the best out of them. I learned that this season when I dismissed the default glaive until I saw people using it in void 3.0 builds (still seems like a kind of useless weapon in the hands of a titan though), and perhaps the exotic glaives and the VoD glaive will get their time to shine under the new 3.0 subclass system when they roll it out of solar and arc.
That triple precision knife clip made my heart stop.
The dude at 4:22 was absolutely lost in the sauce 😂😂😂 that is amazing hahahahaha
As he murders absolute bots
The SMG is real nice but I'm almost more impressed with that crazy throwing knife spree you went on in Anomaly
Can we talk about the 3 kill with the throwing knife dam.
Ok awesome breakdown of the SMG but that three piece with the throwing knives at the end was NASTY
I crafted a max range submission 2 weeks ago with enhanced encore and enhanced kw, and as an mnk player with thousands of kills on a less than perfect multimach, I still think multimach wins. Max range on the submission gives it just under 20m of range, whereas a perfect multimach (kw and iron reach) has ~25 m. My multimach is appended and stability mw as opposed to accurized and range mw giving me around 21.5m, and it still feels like I need encore's range buff to proc 2x in order to even mimic my multimach passively. If I'm not mistaken, the falloff multiplier increase of kw does more for multimach due to its higher zoom, and as an mnk player, stability makes next to no difference on smgs. IF you could keep encore range x3 up all the time with killing wind, you might be able to operate on the level that multimach can, but it just seems like so much more effort. It's possible that submission's comparatively better stability and ability to get more off encore benefits a controller player, but I just don't think that's the case on mnk.
TL;DR saladman's smg still better
This is the perk combo that immediately caught my eye. I haven't dug into thinking about the barrel and magazine yet, so thank you immensely for digging into it!
I've already replaced my Multimach with my Funnelweb, but now I'll have a kinetic option to open up my energy slot!
Pretty cool! I know things feel and work a little different on m&k but I have been adoring my funnelweb, I am not a sub machinegun player but I threw it on for a single game so I could get the sniper quest done and I was laying people out with funnelweb. Chambered comp keeps it stable, accurized rounds and rangefinder really push it out which saved me a few times and killing wind for everything mentioned in your video. It was just fun! Felt like I could not only fight in any distance but I could actually win easily too.
Thanks for the awesome content!
I know this is an old video, I am generally a solo player or am playing with one of my son's. With the new LFG system I have been able to do some raids now and when Vow was the weekly raid I kind of farmed it (enough to even get collective obligation which is my only raid exotic so far). I have always wanted insidious and submission and a few rolls to play with now. Main reason I wanted to comment now is because I was on your stream that you raided Seeker when you were wrapping up and I follow him now. I have not yet raided with him but he is always helping out his viewers!
Amazing roll 🙌🏼 i crafted mine exactly the same... The thing I don't understand is why the numbers on mine are different than his .... They're lower ☹️
Shape of: Devotion.
I'm devoted alright.
I have encore on my adept igneous hammer and it's so nice to have. The roll is polygonal rifling, appended mag, encore and celarity with a range master work. It's so smooth and crisp
That last clip with the triple down knives kill was lit 🔥 😂 poor guys had no clue what hit em
He lined ‘em up and knocked ‘em down
THAT THREE PIECE THROWING KNIFE COMBO THOUGH. EXTRA Crispy 😂
TV: "And I hope to catch YOU, in the Crucible."
Me: *returns to orbit*
VoD weapons are overlooked, they're so good and I am working on getting the SMG to craft, just finished getting my Insidious Enhanced Rapid-Hit as it makes the gun a hard hitting laser beam
I would love to sherpa some folks through Vow of the Disciple! All I ask is the time commitment, a willingness to communicate, cooperate, and learn, and 1530+ Power.
If you fear you aren’t raid ready for DPS, did you craft a Palmyra-B with Auto-Loading + Explosive Light? Do you have Sleeper Simulant, Whisper of the Worm, or Gjallarhorn with catalyst? Do you own Adored or Ascendancy? Do you own Parasite and Grenade Launcher Holster? Do you own any Special or Heavy weapon that could be described as having a damage and/or ammo-related perk?
If you answered yes to any of these, you are raid ready for DPS. If you fear the mechanics, you can study up in advance; I recommend looking up the official names of the glyphs. That is 80% of the challenge of the raid. Know them, and you’re almost done with the raid already.
What’s ur Bungie name
My God rolled multimach shits on that smg.
Well, I’m officially sold on these perks. I’d been skeptical of Encore, but you’ve convinced me. This and Insidious are what I’m going for now I have my Deliverance.
Did I hear a Dr. D reference? Yayaya
I just got your exact roll with the adept version. The other selectable perks are subsistence and demolitionist. I had watched your video earlier and had to double check that the barrel and mag options were the same. You aren't lying, it's good in pvp.
@9:10 this was the exact reason I went and found the LFG discord. If nothing, and I mean nothing else, doing one clear gives you something to get excited for when it comes to bonus chests. One clear gives you a week by week drip feed at the very least and that alone is worth it.
Objective: craftable Submission
Obstacle: raid farming
Even if you haven't raided before, just take it like I have been this season -- once a week, taking it chill. There's no rush. One guaranteed red per week, no muss, no fuss. I already have the Submission pattern unlocked, loved it since it first dropped for me in the first encounter on day 1. Working on Insidious now. Haven't even gotten that lucky with reds outside of the end chest, got like, 1 extra so far. Just have fun.
God, submission is such a phenomenal SMG
I've been using the submission since I got it in contest and fell in love with it
I might have to craft a a while new submission for this seems awsome. On the other hand, I'm loving it with perpetual motion and harmony, it's a blast to pair with wolftone draw, also with harmony.
I'm jealous that your tripmine grenades are going out and aligning how you want them to. Whenever I run that or spike grenades (which is often) they always face towards the floor or the ceiling, not where it could actually do damage
The reference to Dr. Disrespect tho! Lol 🤌🏽👏🏽
Submission has such a great reticle. Love it. I'm at 4/5 so I can craft one by next week!
It's violence, speed, momentum. You get it right when you quote the two time.
This gun also just sounds and feels fantastic, and that's not really quantifiable, but it makes a huge difference.
You've convinced me to try it out. I currently only have 2 Submissions. 1 with Encore/Demo & 1 with Overflow/Killing Wind. 1 was a deepsight
Glad you said something TV! People are sleeping on this SMG. I can't wait to craft one
That triple knife headshots.... B, E, A utiful
So started using this again. Dude encore feels awesome
I’m actually gonna try this now. Thanks for the info TV
I just like the sound of firing this weapon. That's really the only reason I want some decent rolls of it.
Man I took your advice with father’s sins and am so glad I did! Definitely trying this thing out next.
Me using my killing wind + iron reach multi mach: ok, so I started spraying
That triple knife 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
I always appreciate how wholesome you are. Just a pleasant video and your "Be warm and well fed my friends" is kindest outro I've heard. Now I'm on my way to farm for this thing lol
the submission.... as soon as i knew it was a 900RPM, i had set my eyes on it.
unfortunatly, its a kenetic, and let me explain why:
back in the day, i was able to get my hand on a subjunctive, an arc smg, 900RPM.
it had outlaw/multiclip ricochet rounds and corkscrew barrel.
i "only" had 27464 kills with it, basicly showing it was my most favorite smg at that time.
boy was i pissed when they decided to sunset it.
in comes wich queen, when i saw the submission smg in the pool, i had my hopes up.
and oh boy, it delivered even beyond my hopes.
last week i was finally able to get my hands on the last red bar i needed, went and crafted my version and yep.... its the best smg i got my hands on since my old subjunctive.
im actually in the process of leveling 2 of them.,... one for pvp, the other for pve.
I’m insanely happy with my enhanced perpetual motion/ enhanced killing wind crafted roll since it has better stats than any of my multimachs, but seeing this video does make me regret dismantling the encore roll I had. I’ll have to be on the lookout for another one
1:00 casual triple w/ throwing knife had me forget this was an SMG review
I was amazed at the stability. I always over compensate for recoil with this thing but I love it. Its been one of my goto weapons in crucible on small maps. Pairing it with dead messenger is a lot of fun.
I saw you slaying out with this yesterday, good stuff!
On a sidenote, I love your off-meta loadout with double primary + Young Ahamkara's Spine. I mained this build in the entire last season (with NTTE + good old Ikelos SMG), was super rewarding and fun to play! Looking forward to finally collecting all the Insidious frames to craft my god roll.
The triple down with the throwing knife was amazing
By the way!
If you spec an Adept Submission into Range with Encore and Killing Wind a single presicion kill will boost the range to 100!
Tv and CoolGuy are legit the only Destiny channels that I get excited for when I see videos pop up in my feed
thks tv been loving this smg. just got my
last deepsight version last night will be crafting this little monster post haste.
Thank you for this. I've had a few of my homies tell me I'm crazy for dropping my multimach for submission but idc. I absolutely love this smg. Can't wait till I can craft one
They only call you crazy cause they’re basic and rely on meta without giving anything else a chance
my first drop was an encore/frenzy
completely changed my opinion of encore. hated it on every other gun i had it on but i love it here
M.S.V love the Dr Reference Mr Vanguard.
I would personally never select that perk combination. Those perks just do not last long enough in my opinion
First line of the video got me cracking up!
Finally someone who appreciates this smg
Rocking this with Lorentz & harmony is just 👌
with accurized and hammer forged you can still get 54 range (63 if you get a range mw or craft an extra 10 range) and a good amount of stability as well instead of the whopping 18 stability multimach has
Holy frick Batman! This thing slaps!
Submission was my first craftable weapon! Will definitely try out this roll!
Noticed you’re also using “knock em down” too lol 😂 that perk is OP on every weapon.
Umm no you won't catch me there, lol, love your content! Probably never get that type of gun but fun to see others use it.
loved the Dr Disrespect shoutout lol.
Thank you for this man I didn’t realize this smg had beef with the others since funnelweb has dared to challenge everything but also multimach has been strong as hell, as well as it’s brother escape velocity which is a comfier multimach
@7:51 SAVATHUN'S CALCIUM CANONS LOLOL
Been waiting on a weapon to have these combinations together.
honestly i have a submission with encore and demo (wish i had killing wind), but it was doing working iron banner and regular games so ye its really damn nice
Omg that triple throwing knife spree. 😮
Also, I have a KW, KClip, Accurized MMX in my vault. I never use it ☹️
I did like encore with Vulpecula last season. It's interesting to see it on a smg.
I want it! I have been using Deathebringer in PVP and Gambit now and wouldn't go back. So fun wiping out a firearm and they not know what happened!
9:57 that triple knife kill tho.
I've got a harmony sleight of hand submission I want to make a build with. Seems like a good combo
Looks like submission is gonna be real dominant
Actually been chasing this role for a while now, I have 4/5 of these smgs to be able to craft it.
Running range up front and perpetual motion feels head and shoulders more valuable up front than the Encore mini-game hoops to get the buffs. The 60 total stability with Perpetual x2 is more than enough plus the reload buff suit the gun way more in my opinion. Killing wind is 100% the way to go though I agree, the maxed handling, 83 range(with a range set up) and the increased strafe while aiming make it a monster. Its never going to reach out as far as multimach, so I prefer to play it as an actual 900 rpm and rule the normal 900 rpm range instead of trying to square peg Encore into being useful. When it comes down to it the immediate stat boost of Perpetual and the reload speed it gives is much more valuable to me on an smg than the kill required buffs from Encore.
Right. Also, I don't think he knows how Encore works... it's Range or Stability, but not both as he seems to think.
@@zeikenfield8080 He never said it was both. It’s the fact every kill you get buffs one of the weapons two weakest traits. Every kill will give you the stat bonus. You will only lose the buff from dying or not getting another kill within a very generous time frame. Perpetual motion really isn’t helping you win many fun fights when compared to Encore. Use the perk enough and you’ll understand why.
The Doc approves of this SMG
The Doc reference was pretty nice.
Everything about this SMG *on paper* seems like nothing special, but seeing you play with it makes me think I will LOVE it. It just looks like one of those "Bungie Special Sauce Supreme" weapons complete with extra buttery smooth goodness. I haven't done the raid yet, but this and the Deliverance in particular are making me think of trying it.
I have only got two of these, only 1 being a red border, but the first one I got has an amazing set of pve perks that I love, being subsistence and frenzy, which, while not being great in pvp, it still makes it a majorly fun weapon to use in pve, while still being effective, given I've always been an smg fan for pve, since the beginning of d2 when I found the variant
I have a threat detector kill clip roll and ive put a couple thousand kills on it. I love it for the aggression it gives and it still has a lot of range with the model red. I picked up almost that exact same roll on a random drop. I agree it's good but I felt like i was getting ghost bullets a lot of the time