I'm just prepping to take the leopard 2 troop leaders course right now, I start Sept 13. I should be able to help you out by November with the appropriate (non classified) reference docs and talk throughs.
1:26 Spain has a history of collaborating with German-speaking countries when it comes to engineering. In small arms we had (and still have) deals with Mauser and HK, in land vehicles we use a locally produced version of the Leopard 2 (Leopard 2E), and in aviation we had some rather interesting models like the HA-112 in WW2, which was a Spanish produced version of the Me-109 having a Swiss engine. When it comes to tanks and vehicles, Spain has both used as purchased, produced with license and modified tanks from other nations, for example the first tank ever produced in Spanish soil was the Trubia A4 tank, which was a local version of the FT-17 removing the main gun for more crew space. In the 1930s, the Nationalists received Panzer I "tractors" (officially shipped as "agricultural equipment") and used them as well as retrofitted them adapting the tanks to their needs in the battlefield against the better T-26B used by the Republicans. The resulting mix was a modified Panzer I with a 20mm Breda AT gun nicknamed "Negrillo" ("Blacky") by the soldiers. They also created a design which mixed the turret of a Panzer I, the gun of a T-26 and the canopy of a CV-35 into a tank which combined their strenghts: tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/Spain/verdeja-no-1 Currently, as Spain and Germany have a story of collaboration since the 1940s and have been allies since the 1980s, we are particularly close when it comes to development. Another piece of trivia: the Pizarro originally was just to be a substitute for the older M113 that the US had sold for cheap to Spain in the 50s, but the Austrian part of the design bureau wanted for it to be able to act as a compliment to the Leopard 2A tanks that Austria was purchasing from Germany, so the design bureau made them with such ideas in mind, and ironically, 2 years after the Pizarro was introduced, Spain started acquiring and producing under license the Leopard 2E as well...
That tradition probably has something to do with a subconscious fear that if Spain becomes too reliant on France it risks becoming the latter's protectorate.
@@zoperxplex More the fact that Germany produces excellent weapons. The French tried doing that once in 1808, and lost an Empire thanks to trying to invade us...
I had no idea of the existence of the Trubia A4 tank nor the Verdeja, the latter in particular looked pretty cool and I would love to see it in either world of tanks or war thunder (WT already has the CV-35 and T-26 in game so it shouldn't be too difficult to implement). Thank you for bringing those to light
Sorry, but most of the information is plainly wrong. For starters, the ASCOD was to be an IFV in the BMP/Bradley style to replace the M113 in mechanized brigades as in the US or German armies with the Bradley/Marder, not an overall replacement for the M113 series. Spain in the 1980s selected a downsized variant of the Leopard 2, the Lince, to replace the AMX-30 and M-47/48 then in use, so we “chose” the Leo 2 well in advance of Austra, which at the time used the M60. After Lince was canned, we received a lot of ex US Army M60s and there was a plan to upgrade them..... canned after deciding the Leopard 2 has much more potential. And we did so before the Austrians again. The Trubia A4 had nothing to do with the FT beyond being a two crewman infantry support light tank, using a German developed (and terribly unsuccessful) suspension system with no suspension elements but designed to make impossible to throw a track. On the Hispano HA 1109/1112 series, they used French Hispano Suiza Z89 engines and later British Merlin 500s; the sole Swiss component being a Scher Weiss propeller for the Hispano powered airframes which never really entered service. On industrial collaborations, the main one was undoubtedly with France as Spain built under license 200 AMX-30 tanks up to 1983. The collaboration between Pegasp (later Santa Barbara) and Steyr of Austria started at around that time, the Pandur being heavily “inspired” by the BMR series. As both companies had good relationships at the time, it was decided to lauthe design of s modern IFV, something with s huge market potential at the time. The Pizarro FCS was originally designed by ENOSA, wich had previous experience with the Mk7 FCS for the M48 and the Mk9 for the AMX-30EM2. The Mk10 was an evolutionary design and kept the (outdated) moving reticle system for lead, also used by the British IFCS designed in the 70s
@@glmm2001 Okay, for the most part you have misread what I wrote, but yes, you point to some errors I made. I confused the Hispano Aviación with other models from the time, concretely the Hispano Suiza series which did use Swiss engines. The Trubia A4 shares both canopy, engine and basically anything except the turret with the FT-17, the main difference between both models being that the A4 removed the gun for increased crew space inside, but it's a model developed taking the FT-17 as basis. I never said that Spain didn't collaborate with France but we also have a history of collaborating with Germany, specially when it comes to small arms. After all, since 1875 Spain has always used as standart infantry rifle either a German-designed rifle (Mauser C93 and G-36), a local version of a German rifle (Mauser C93/16 'Oviedo') or a gun developed taking a German gun as the basis (CETME, which was developed from the StG-44). As for Spain in the 1980s, the thing is that both the Pizarro, the Lince, the adoption of the upgraded Leopard 2E and many more developments come from the "Proyecto Coraza" (Proyect Armor) which intended to modernise the armoured and mechanised units replacing the older vehicles from the 1940s and 1950s by far newer and more powerful vehicles. It was a large success, in my opinion.
Excellent video. This is a superb way to gain a general understanding of the switichology of armored vehicles such as the Pizarro, which is the basis for the UK's Ajax. Well done and keep these coming. COL (Ret.) John Antal
@@TheChieftainsHatch Yes, understand, as the Brits have a challenge with funding and are torn as to whether they should invest in "good-enough now" vs leap ahead tech. To some degree it involves form over function issues. i am working a similar challenge for new equipment possibilities for the US Army that you may wish to discuss. If you Zoom, maybe we could set up a short session later this week? In any case, keep up the great work. I watch most of your videos and you are doing a fantastic job on multiple fronts.
@hognoxious And thank God they kept French, Russian, and Chinese emperors out of that spot. Not perfect, but a shitton less bad; I'll take that anyday.
8:39 Blink-and-you'll-miss-it trivia: in the Round counter it also says Grupo Santa Bárbara, which is a Spanish military manufracturer which builds both vehicles and vehicle parts, and is are the ones who build the Spanish Pizarros in the first place...
7:11 You did your Spanish well. Indeed they say "Water" (Agua) and "Heater" (Calefacción shortened to Calef). 7:15 Also, in the turret clock, it literally says "turret position" in Spanish.
Lovely video as usual Chieftain. There is as well Centauro that is pretty well modelled, in Steelbeast. Also, many AFVs these days are equipped with remote weapon stations. And quite few of those are modeled to very great detail in Steelbeast as well. And in many cases added to AFVs of all sort, including sometimes to tanks.
11:19 If you have an rr it's a stronger sound, like you're trying to imitate a machinegun with your mouth. Still, the rest was fine. It means "Lock behind" 11:50 Izq is shorter for "Izquierda", which means "left" in Spanish, and Der is shorter for "Derecha", which means "right" in Spanish. Segur is for "Seguro", safe in Spanish, "Fuego" means "Fire". 12:10 Long Rafg is shortened for "Longitud Ráfaga", that is, "Burst Length". 12:18 What it says in the counter is shortened for "continuous burst" 12:28 I give you an A+ (or a Sobresaliente in Spanish) for your guesses.
The real name is ASCOD (Austrian-Spanish-Cooperative-Development) by the way. The name of this IFV in Spanish service is Pizarro while the Austrian version is called Ulan
The exit hatch appears to have a periscope as the slots are offset between the inside and outside. Handy for a peak out before you open the hatch or to check for hazards when backing while buttoned up.
5:23 Well, the buttons only say things like "mode, alert, volume, cipher" (at least the ones I could read, can't watch them properly. So yes, they are two radios, but there is no other obvious specific marking that I'm aware of. I'm not in the military, though.
Pizarro that's cute. isn't that the conqueror of the New World lol. It is Austrian-Spanish. I believe Pizarro did fight under the Spanish branch of Hapsburg (Austrian) crown. Makes sense now. Putting it together lol
Indeed, at the time Pizarro conquered Peru, he was working for Charles von Habsburg, who at the time was both King of Spain and Emperor of Germany, and he had given the title of Archduke to his brother (ironically Charles never spent a single day in Spain before being named king, whereas his brother had spent his full life there).
Having gunned a M3A3 there's a lot of stuff that looks really appealing (that gunners control box is looks pretty hot), but there's some stuff that really seems sub optimal like how it applies lead and the arbitrary and excessive depression deadzone front left ( it's a situational issue and you could def work around it but can see it being very annoying).
@@TheChieftainsHatch true, but other than simulators my experience is exclusive to the M3A3, so I'm confining my comparison solely to the varient I am familiar with. I'm in no way saying the a3 is thr pinnacle of afv tech, theres a number of major issues (length of time to power cycle the turret which it the primary troubleshooting procedure for any turret fault for one. )
The Pizarro design is from the 90's, already 30 years old. The new tower Tizona and the ASCOD 2 addresses most of those issues. The British Ajax is a good example, although as the Chieftain said in the video, it's interesting how to national versions of the same vehicle can differ.
The Spanish Army is indeed working in a Multi-Platform modular tower, the Tizona tower. It's going to be implemented first in the Dragón wheeled vehicles that will substitute the venerable wheeled BMR IFV and cavalry scout VEC in the unmanned (UT30Mk2) and manned (MT30Mk2) versions respectively. About the Pizarro II, there is still a lot of especulation, but the IFV will get the manned tower and the personnel transport (M113 substitute) the unmanned one. The Tizona comes with a double missile launcher with Spike LR ejercito.defensa.gob.es/news/2020/07/8050-prueba-tiro-8x8.html BTW, the US Army is looking for an ASCOD derivative: the Griffin Light Tank
Great Video. I don't necessarily agree that a lot of collaborative projects fail. It seems to be something that people default to. Eurofighter has been undoubtedly successful, despite the french pull out, also Panavia Tornado. The IRIS-T& Meteor missiles and probably some other ordnance. The New Boxer CRV that We (Australia) are getting is a Joint project design. With this said. I'm sure that There are plenty of failed Collaborative projects and I might just be pushing the pendulum here.
There are indeed a lot of failed cooperation attempts in history. The Leopard 2 and Abrahams were developed from a failed co-development for a MBT in the 70s between USA and Germany, for instance. So did the AMX30 and Leopard 1, both of which were born after a crashed coop project between France and Germany. Several helicopter and plane projects also failed because of widely different requirements from the cooperating nations which had to be settled with a proper base platform that would satisfy everyone, and disagreement on manufacturing and equipment to be used meant big tensions in the development cycle. For instance France pulled out of the Eurofighter program when they couldn't get away with using french engines for the plane. The other nations had settled on the R&R powerplant but France wouldn't have any of it, and off they went to design the Rafale, causing the whole Eurofighter project to be put on hold and in doubt for a good while afterwards. Then of course there's the economic side of things: who produces which parts, how will the licensing and export profits be shared between the cooperating nations, which equipment (and from which nation's developer) is used, so on. Many a project has crashed because neither of the partners would give up their demands on one (or several) of those points. Even the success stories usually are marred with some horror stories. Eurofighter walked the thin line of cancellation too many times for comfort, for instance, and ended up several times over the initial estimated budget and the shares of the whole program had to be re-negotiated several times during the development cycle as nations moved in or out of the project...for instance Spain wasn't initially in it at all, while France was one of the main members of the consortium that was to design the plane. Each one of those adjustements of nations leaving, or coming in, meant severe delays on the project given the demand of re-negotiating the shares of each nation in it, not to mention the extra requirements from the new nations needed to be incorporated into the design, while those requirements stemmed from the needs of the quitting nations had to be evaluated to see if they were worthwhile anymore. All in all, a MASSIVE mess. It's almost a miracle an useful plane (let alone one as good as the Eurofighter seems to be) came out from such a nightmarish development. The Tigre helicopter development also was marred with continuous problems that stemmed from the very different purposes the helicopter was intended to have in it's either german or french (and later spanish) versions. And the result seems to be less than impressive (at least the Australians hated the thing with all their guts after they purchased the model). Something as straightforward as a transport should be, as the A400, also ended up being grossly overbudget and, again, narrowly avoided cancelation. In general, the results international cooperation for advanced military vehicles has been not really that great where even the successes were narrow ones and were very close to be total failures instead. There are exceptions to the norm, and usually involve less ambitious projects. The Pizarro/Ulan is a good instance of that, the vehicle wasn't exactly ground breaking nor abnormally advanced for the time it was designed, and focused on being efficient and effective over using the latest, best, tech. The Alpha Jet is a good instance for an international success in a plane design, again because the plane was intended to be simple, cheap and effective over it being groundbreaking or super-advanced. But those kind of successes are kind of the rare exception.
@@ramjb This is a real novella here and I already tried responding to it before i had a blackout and lost the indepth response. My point is that Cooperative efforts don't end in outright failure as much as people want to tell you. Most will result in a success of some sort. For the AMX-30 and Leo1 which were not "born after a crashed coop project between France and Germany." But the competing designs from FINABEL3A5 were both successful and at the end of the day Europe got a new MBT just like not exactly as FINABEL 3A5 intended. I'd recommend the Haynes Manuals on the AMX-30 and Leo 1 if you want more info on their development. You can buy them off the Tank Museums website and support them too. Tiger has not been hated by us down in Australia. The media loves to drag it and the MRH90 through the mud because the acquisition wasn't all smooth sailing, frankly this is mostly politically motivated and you can see this in the new effort to plan for a Tiger Replacement by 2025. General Aviation BRIG John Fenwick has basically said, "It's not our decision, government wants us to get something new, so that's what was have to do." and Commander of 16th Aviation Brigade BRIG Steve Jobson had nothing but praise for tiger. I'll link and article for it to actually source what I'm saying. australianaviation.com.au/2019/07/eye-on-the-tiger-a-look-at-the-armys-armed-reconnaissance-helicopter/ Essentially there is room for us to take Tiger further but the Government doesn't want to. It's not that we don't like it.
I am curious, how often do tankers in modern tanks get injured? I don't mean from enemy fire, I mean just working in a tank. Whether it is throwing out your back, having something fall on your arm, concussions, whatever. Is it common? I have a friend who worked strapping down helicopters in the navy, and he told me that job had a high turnover because everyone, including himself, just absolutely destroyed their backs. He can barely stand up straight anymore because his back is just finished. I'm curious how tanks are. I'm also curious if doing tank repair is safer or more dangerous than working in the tank for the same reason. Again, not counting people shooting at you.
37:25 I see no differences between these 2 things as such let's play a nice friendlty game dibs on the left one, i mean it's first in line after all :)
Hi you mentioned Leopard 1 - I was an Australian Leo 1 CC and Gunnery Inst, (20 yrs service 76 to 96) - not sure if our AS1 with the Belguim TFCS is in your simulator but if it is I would be happy to provide any help/advise ... J ... ps they have all been replaced with the M1A1 now and none are in service/reserve or were sold to another Army so I wouldn't think anything about the tank would still be classified.
It is, actually, but only the FCS, not the entire inside of the tank. I might have to combine it with a video on another Leo 1. And I've one of your blue (MLW) books for the thing. Can you do me a favour and send me a message on my Facebook page? I'm not seeing a PM option for you on UA-cam.
6:02 Well, that doesn't mean Norwegian necesarily. After all Spain and Portugal have tungsten mines of their own (and actually Spain supplied tungsten to the Germans in WW2).
The M-1911 A1 is the perfect design. So I found a metric caliber with high capacity. www.armscor.com/firearms/ria/rock-series/rock-ultra-fs-hc-10mm/ Enjoy.
It's Pizzarro. The vehicle is named for Franciso Pizzarro, the Spaniard who led the conquest of the Incas in Peru and that area in the period from about 1520 to 1530.
Hi there, I am sure you get 6.022 x 10^23 messages per video, but I wanted to post that I saw your book on Amazon and I bought it as support and for my collection ( I also have the O. Carius books). Be well, stay safe. o7 PS: If you are ever in Florida, send me a message.
Can you travel within the US to film an episode? If so, come to Illinois, Cantigny Park, the 1 ID museum and specifically, the tank park outside of it. Google it...
It is. The Leopards are modelled pretty well there. Also have a good community going with weekly battles going on sunday night...combined arms with tanks, armoured infantry, mortars, arty ...etc etc check: www.steelbeasts.com for a try...
Love the channel,interesting subjects, maybe you couldhelp me out. I've come across a brass 75mm drill round that's dated 1944. Can't find anything out adopt it. ,
I’m sure if this vehicle has shit FLIR or if you just didn’t focus it but that is a horribly bleary image. In my Bradley at close range I can recognize faces in the FLIR, if it is adjusted right.
The_Chieftain an upgraded version of the A2 actually but it’s newer than most A3s. M2A2 ODS SA. The primary difference between it and an A3 is the lack of a CIV. they replaced my units old A2s back in 2014, although I got the distinct impression that they were not brand new just refurbished.
First thing the Spanish should upgrade is an ATGM system, even if its something less impressive like the MILAN system as on the Marder. Not having that capability is honestly a little pityful.
This seems like a death trap. Lightly armoured and no blow-off panels means that if it gets hit, not only will it explode and kill the crew, but likely all the passengers as well. To top it off, it doesn't even have good firepower with only a 30mm autocannon and coaxial machinegun. No anti-tank missiles. Not very impressive.
@@RoninTF2011 To be honest I was trolling. I just find it funny how people always say that Soviet vehicles that don't have blow-off ammo panels are "death traps", but for some reason never apply the same standard to vehicles from other countries. The Pizarro actually looks like a pretty decent IFV, although it would be nice to have AT missiles. I suppose the infantry could carry missiles in the back and dismount to use them, so it's not the end of the world. :P
Would love to see T-72 switchology and take of a western tanker on it
Your wish has been granted as of today it seems
I'm just prepping to take the leopard 2 troop leaders course right now, I start Sept 13. I should be able to help you out by November with the appropriate (non classified) reference docs and talk throughs.
Canada?
@@TheChieftainsHatch yeah
i am a cadet we will use leopard 2a4 so can you give me know about leopard. How to be a tank commander
1:26 Spain has a history of collaborating with German-speaking countries when it comes to engineering. In small arms we had (and still have) deals with Mauser and HK, in land vehicles we use a locally produced version of the Leopard 2 (Leopard 2E), and in aviation we had some rather interesting models like the HA-112 in WW2, which was a Spanish produced version of the Me-109 having a Swiss engine. When it comes to tanks and vehicles, Spain has both used as purchased, produced with license and modified tanks from other nations, for example the first tank ever produced in Spanish soil was the Trubia A4 tank, which was a local version of the FT-17 removing the main gun for more crew space. In the 1930s, the Nationalists received Panzer I "tractors" (officially shipped as "agricultural equipment") and used them as well as retrofitted them adapting the tanks to their needs in the battlefield against the better T-26B used by the Republicans. The resulting mix was a modified Panzer I with a 20mm Breda AT gun nicknamed "Negrillo" ("Blacky") by the soldiers. They also created a design which mixed the turret of a Panzer I, the gun of a T-26 and the canopy of a CV-35 into a tank which combined their strenghts: tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/Spain/verdeja-no-1
Currently, as Spain and Germany have a story of collaboration since the 1940s and have been allies since the 1980s, we are particularly close when it comes to development.
Another piece of trivia: the Pizarro originally was just to be a substitute for the older M113 that the US had sold for cheap to Spain in the 50s, but the Austrian part of the design bureau wanted for it to be able to act as a compliment to the Leopard 2A tanks that Austria was purchasing from Germany, so the design bureau made them with such ideas in mind, and ironically, 2 years after the Pizarro was introduced, Spain started acquiring and producing under license the Leopard 2E as well...
That tradition probably has something to do with a subconscious fear that if Spain becomes too reliant on France it risks becoming the latter's protectorate.
@@zoperxplex More the fact that Germany produces excellent weapons. The French tried doing that once in 1808, and lost an Empire thanks to trying to invade us...
I had no idea of the existence of the Trubia A4 tank nor the Verdeja, the latter in particular looked pretty cool and I would love to see it in either world of tanks or war thunder (WT already has the CV-35 and T-26 in game so it shouldn't be too difficult to implement). Thank you for bringing those to light
Sorry, but most of the information is plainly wrong. For starters, the ASCOD was to be an IFV in the BMP/Bradley style to replace the M113 in mechanized brigades as in the US or German armies with the Bradley/Marder, not an overall replacement for the M113 series. Spain in the 1980s selected a downsized variant of the Leopard 2, the Lince, to replace the AMX-30 and M-47/48 then in use, so we “chose” the Leo 2 well in advance of Austra, which at the time used the M60. After Lince was canned, we received a lot of ex US Army M60s and there was a plan to upgrade them..... canned after deciding the Leopard 2 has much more potential. And we did so before the Austrians again.
The Trubia A4 had nothing to do with the FT beyond being a two crewman infantry support light tank, using a German developed (and terribly unsuccessful) suspension system with no suspension elements but designed to make impossible to throw a track.
On the Hispano HA 1109/1112 series, they used French Hispano Suiza Z89 engines and later British Merlin 500s; the sole Swiss component being a Scher Weiss propeller for the Hispano powered airframes which never really entered service.
On industrial collaborations, the main one was undoubtedly with France as Spain built under license 200 AMX-30 tanks up to 1983. The collaboration between Pegasp (later Santa Barbara) and Steyr of Austria started at around that time, the Pandur being heavily “inspired” by the BMR series. As both companies had good relationships at the time, it was decided to lauthe design of s modern IFV, something with s huge market potential at the time.
The Pizarro FCS was originally designed by ENOSA, wich had previous experience with the Mk7 FCS for the M48 and the Mk9 for the AMX-30EM2. The Mk10 was an evolutionary design and kept the (outdated) moving reticle system for lead, also used by the British IFCS designed in the 70s
@@glmm2001 Okay, for the most part you have misread what I wrote, but yes, you point to some errors I made. I confused the Hispano Aviación with other models from the time, concretely the Hispano Suiza series which did use Swiss engines.
The Trubia A4 shares both canopy, engine and basically anything except the turret with the FT-17, the main difference between both models being that the A4 removed the gun for increased crew space inside, but it's a model developed taking the FT-17 as basis.
I never said that Spain didn't collaborate with France but we also have a history of collaborating with Germany, specially when it comes to small arms. After all, since 1875 Spain has always used as standart infantry rifle either a German-designed rifle (Mauser C93 and G-36), a local version of a German rifle (Mauser C93/16 'Oviedo') or a gun developed taking a German gun as the basis (CETME, which was developed from the StG-44).
As for Spain in the 1980s, the thing is that both the Pizarro, the Lince, the adoption of the upgraded Leopard 2E and many more developments come from the "Proyecto Coraza" (Proyect Armor) which intended to modernise the armoured and mechanised units replacing the older vehicles from the 1940s and 1950s by far newer and more powerful vehicles. It was a large success, in my opinion.
Excellent video. This is a superb way to gain a general understanding of the switichology of armored vehicles such as the Pizarro, which is the basis for the UK's Ajax. Well done and keep these coming. COL (Ret.) John Antal
Oh, hallo again, Sir! Interestingly, the Brits seem to be rather divided in opinion on Ajax, depends on who you talk to.
@@TheChieftainsHatch Yes, understand, as the Brits have a challenge with funding and are torn as to whether they should invest in "good-enough now" vs leap ahead tech. To some degree it involves form over function issues. i am working a similar challenge for new equipment possibilities for the US Army that you may wish to discuss. If you Zoom, maybe we could set up a short session later this week? In any case, keep up the great work. I watch most of your videos and you are doing a fantastic job on multiple fronts.
ASCOD = Austrian - Spanish, is the Habsburg Empire reassembling itself
IDK, but it's made by a company (Santa Bárbara) that also produces a licensed version of the German Leopard 2.
Well the Kingdom of Bohemia might get too very soon so this actually fits pretty well
France: **triggered**
@hognoxious And thank God they kept French, Russian, and Chinese emperors out of that spot. Not perfect, but a shitton less bad; I'll take that anyday.
Tank Idea (Or IFV): A tank. You make it fun.
3:30 The Spanish denomination for the MG-3 is the "MG-42 model 58", by the way.
Realmente es la MG-1A3, aunque en los manuales te la pongan como mg42
@@MindBit3 Sí, cosas de las denominaciones locales. En cualquier caso tiene el mismo mecanismo de la MG-42 pero con distinto calibre (7,62 OTAN).
Would like to see some of these for the less known vehicles in the sim. Amazing video as always.
Ive managed to attain a "BIZZARRO SWITCH".....Upon moving to Whidbey Island Washington....
LOVE the channel!
9:15 The control box also is in Spanish. It says:
"Ammo type:
2. TP/HEI
3. MP
4. MPDS
5. APDS
6. APFSDS"
Please do the BMP-2
It would be a much shorter video lol
@@tankolad Well, there are lots of little tweaks and gadgets in the BMP2 that would make a video interesting and also...long
I'm sure there're some Finns with experience on the BMP-2's fire control
The depression limit when over the driver's hatch is probably so you don't lock him in with the gun barrel pressed up against his hatch.
8:39 Blink-and-you'll-miss-it trivia: in the Round counter it also says Grupo Santa Bárbara, which is a Spanish military manufracturer which builds both vehicles and vehicle parts, and is are the ones who build the Spanish Pizarros in the first place...
Saludos amigo, el grupo santa bárbara fue adquirido por General Dinamics hace años
@@javiercarrasco9410 No. Sí es un accionista, pero el principal accionista del grupo es el Estado español.
Home from the pub after a good band for the fist time in 6 months and a new vid! Perfect evening!
Please do inside hatch for Tiger II one day? I want to know how its ergonomics compare with other tanks.
Will be hard to find an old LUCHS crewman nowadays...hope someone can help you with that, its a very interesting vehicle.
I'm quite sure that a former Luchs cdr is reading here.
@@herosstratos We need input from a reverse driver ;-)
@@RoninTF2011 Qualified as radio operator for the XK405 HF radio?
@@herosstratos Just kidding..."Rückwärtsfahrer" was one "banter" term we use for them gold-stripes ;-)
6:49 That "unity sight" has markings as "anti-laser protection"...
That partially-open TC hatch looks like a great way to shot trap rifle or machine gun fire right into the tc and turret
The new tower, the Tizona does indeed change the hatch to a front one. You must have in mind that the Pizarro design is already 30 years old.
I'm looking forward to that Ulan video.
Great Video Chieftain. Many Thanks.
Thank you Chieftain very cool
7:11 You did your Spanish well. Indeed they say "Water" (Agua) and "Heater" (Calefacción shortened to Calef).
7:15 Also, in the turret clock, it literally says "turret position" in Spanish.
Lovely video as usual Chieftain. There is as well Centauro that is pretty well modelled, in Steelbeast. Also, many AFVs these days are equipped with remote weapon stations. And quite few of those are modeled to very great detail in Steelbeast as well. And in many cases added to AFVs of all sort, including sometimes to tanks.
Man this tank look really cramp but i like that your ammo is behind glass panel lol
Not a tank but a IFV.
Id love to see a Leopard2 switchology video
11:19 If you have an rr it's a stronger sound, like you're trying to imitate a machinegun with your mouth. Still, the rest was fine. It means "Lock behind"
11:50 Izq is shorter for "Izquierda", which means "left" in Spanish, and Der is shorter for "Derecha", which means "right" in Spanish. Segur is for "Seguro", safe in Spanish, "Fuego" means "Fire".
12:10 Long Rafg is shortened for "Longitud Ráfaga", that is, "Burst Length".
12:18 What it says in the counter is shortened for "continuous burst"
12:28 I give you an A+ (or a Sobresaliente in Spanish) for your guesses.
The real name is ASCOD (Austrian-Spanish-Cooperative-Development) by the way. The name of this IFV in Spanish service is Pizarro while the Austrian version is called Ulan
Looks like a Warrior!
Better video quality! Great! Cierra Atras is “locked to the rear” in Spanish
Can you do more of these videos please I love the game and I love learning more about different tanks an armored vehicles
Oh, a Spanish (well, Austro-Spanish) vehicle! Good!
Many thanks sir.
Very useful for some of the ideas I'm working and looking forward to the comparison to its Austrian brother.
The exit hatch appears to have a periscope as the slots are offset between the inside and outside. Handy for a peak out before you open the hatch or to check for hazards when backing while buttoned up.
5:23 Well, the buttons only say things like "mode, alert, volume, cipher" (at least the ones I could read, can't watch them properly. So yes, they are two radios, but there is no other obvious specific marking that I'm aware of. I'm not in the military, though.
Podemos URSS Thales PR4G made under license in Spain
@@glmm2001 Surely. The vehicle is made by a factory that also produces a lot of local licensed versions for both vehicles and machinary, so it can be.
The chieftain's response to everything: 😕
Pizarro that's cute. isn't that the conqueror of the New World lol. It is Austrian-Spanish. I believe Pizarro did fight under the Spanish branch of Hapsburg (Austrian) crown. Makes sense now. Putting it together lol
Indeed, at the time Pizarro conquered Peru, he was working for Charles von Habsburg, who at the time was both King of Spain and Emperor of Germany, and he had given the title of Archduke to his brother (ironically Charles never spent a single day in Spain before being named king, whereas his brother had spent his full life there).
Having gunned a M3A3 there's a lot of stuff that looks really appealing (that gunners control box is looks pretty hot), but there's some stuff that really seems sub optimal like how it applies lead and the arbitrary and excessive depression deadzone front left ( it's a situational issue and you could def work around it but can see it being very annoying).
In fairness, my M3A2 applied no lead at all, to the sight or the gun.
@@TheChieftainsHatch true, but other than simulators my experience is exclusive to the M3A3, so I'm confining my comparison solely to the varient I am familiar with. I'm in no way saying the a3 is thr pinnacle of afv tech, theres a number of major issues (length of time to power cycle the turret which it the primary troubleshooting procedure for any turret fault for one. )
@@christopher5723 You should try a PUMA then...very of weapons system and FCS...*when* it works as it should ;-)
The Pizarro design is from the 90's, already 30 years old. The new tower Tizona and the ASCOD 2 addresses most of those issues. The British Ajax is a good example, although as the Chieftain said in the video, it's interesting how to national versions of the same vehicle can differ.
The Spanish Army is indeed working in a Multi-Platform modular tower, the Tizona tower. It's going to be implemented first in the Dragón wheeled vehicles that will substitute the venerable wheeled BMR IFV and cavalry scout VEC in the unmanned (UT30Mk2) and manned (MT30Mk2) versions respectively.
About the Pizarro II, there is still a lot of especulation, but the IFV will get the manned tower and the personnel transport (M113 substitute) the unmanned one.
The Tizona comes with a double missile launcher with Spike LR
ejercito.defensa.gob.es/news/2020/07/8050-prueba-tiro-8x8.html
BTW, the US Army is looking for an ASCOD derivative: the Griffin Light Tank
Radios are license made PR4G digital sets from Thales
you probably wont read this comment but ill write it any way , ill watch every single one of these videos i find them super interesting LOVE eme! :D
Oh, I read them.
I'd be interested to see the Challengers and the Warrior get the Switchology treatment.
Would need another software tough...the Chally and the Warrior have only very basic models in steelbeasts
I may be wrong but that odd depression to the front left angle may be because the turret is on the right side and that changes depresion angle.
Do more of these
I would like your comment on the German Wiesel 1 with a TOW system. I would regard it as the ultimate tankette of all time.
I really REALLY want to get this sim. But Idk if my potato laptop will run it. Love these videos
systems requirements:
www.esimgames.com/?post_type=elementor-popup&p=1160
11:18 it's like the second time you say it. First one is more Italian
Ok,I have it in front of me,it says "75mm drill cartridge, M19B1,MMC 1944. And on the end cap it has the same but also has M1 and M1A1.
Well, a drill cartridge is an inert one that's the same shape and weight as a round, but has no explosives. Used for training.
Great Video.
I don't necessarily agree that a lot of collaborative projects fail. It seems to be something that people default to.
Eurofighter has been undoubtedly successful, despite the french pull out, also Panavia Tornado. The IRIS-T& Meteor missiles and probably some other ordnance.
The New Boxer CRV that We (Australia) are getting is a Joint project design.
With this said. I'm sure that There are plenty of failed Collaborative projects and I might just be pushing the pendulum here.
There are indeed a lot of failed cooperation attempts in history. The Leopard 2 and Abrahams were developed from a failed co-development for a MBT in the 70s between USA and Germany, for instance. So did the AMX30 and Leopard 1, both of which were born after a crashed coop project between France and Germany.
Several helicopter and plane projects also failed because of widely different requirements from the cooperating nations which had to be settled with a proper base platform that would satisfy everyone, and disagreement on manufacturing and equipment to be used meant big tensions in the development cycle. For instance France pulled out of the Eurofighter program when they couldn't get away with using french engines for the plane. The other nations had settled on the R&R powerplant but France wouldn't have any of it, and off they went to design the Rafale, causing the whole Eurofighter project to be put on hold and in doubt for a good while afterwards.
Then of course there's the economic side of things: who produces which parts, how will the licensing and export profits be shared between the cooperating nations, which equipment (and from which nation's developer) is used, so on. Many a project has crashed because neither of the partners would give up their demands on one (or several) of those points.
Even the success stories usually are marred with some horror stories. Eurofighter walked the thin line of cancellation too many times for comfort, for instance, and ended up several times over the initial estimated budget and the shares of the whole program had to be re-negotiated several times during the development cycle as nations moved in or out of the project...for instance Spain wasn't initially in it at all, while France was one of the main members of the consortium that was to design the plane. Each one of those adjustements of nations leaving, or coming in, meant severe delays on the project given the demand of re-negotiating the shares of each nation in it, not to mention the extra requirements from the new nations needed to be incorporated into the design, while those requirements stemmed from the needs of the quitting nations had to be evaluated to see if they were worthwhile anymore.
All in all, a MASSIVE mess. It's almost a miracle an useful plane (let alone one as good as the Eurofighter seems to be) came out from such a nightmarish development.
The Tigre helicopter development also was marred with continuous problems that stemmed from the very different purposes the helicopter was intended to have in it's either german or french (and later spanish) versions. And the result seems to be less than impressive (at least the Australians hated the thing with all their guts after they purchased the model). Something as straightforward as a transport should be, as the A400, also ended up being grossly overbudget and, again, narrowly avoided cancelation.
In general, the results international cooperation for advanced military vehicles has been not really that great where even the successes were narrow ones and were very close to be total failures instead.
There are exceptions to the norm, and usually involve less ambitious projects. The Pizarro/Ulan is a good instance of that, the vehicle wasn't exactly ground breaking nor abnormally advanced for the time it was designed, and focused on being efficient and effective over using the latest, best, tech. The Alpha Jet is a good instance for an international success in a plane design, again because the plane was intended to be simple, cheap and effective over it being groundbreaking or super-advanced. But those kind of successes are kind of the rare exception.
@@ramjb This is a real novella here and I already tried responding to it before i had a blackout and lost the indepth response.
My point is that Cooperative efforts don't end in outright failure as much as people want to tell you. Most will result in a success of some sort.
For the AMX-30 and Leo1 which were not "born after a crashed coop project between France and Germany." But the competing designs from FINABEL3A5 were both successful and at the end of the day Europe got a new MBT just like not exactly as FINABEL 3A5 intended.
I'd recommend the Haynes Manuals on the AMX-30 and Leo 1 if you want more info on their development. You can buy them off the Tank Museums website and support them too.
Tiger has not been hated by us down in Australia. The media loves to drag it and the MRH90 through the mud because the acquisition wasn't all smooth sailing, frankly this is mostly politically motivated and you can see this in the new effort to plan for a Tiger Replacement by 2025. General Aviation BRIG John Fenwick has basically said, "It's not our decision, government wants us to get something new, so that's what was have to do." and Commander of 16th Aviation Brigade BRIG Steve Jobson had nothing but praise for tiger. I'll link and article for it to actually source what I'm saying.
australianaviation.com.au/2019/07/eye-on-the-tiger-a-look-at-the-armys-armed-reconnaissance-helicopter/
Essentially there is room for us to take Tiger further but the Government doesn't want to. It's not that we don't like it.
Having never heard of this vehicle; I thought "What the heck? Pizza discussion."
Hey, nice! Now compare it to the ULAN... same chassis, different setup (PS.: this happens when you comment befor watching the video :-P )
I am curious, how often do tankers in modern tanks get injured? I don't mean from enemy fire, I mean just working in a tank. Whether it is throwing out your back, having something fall on your arm, concussions, whatever. Is it common? I have a friend who worked strapping down helicopters in the navy, and he told me that job had a high turnover because everyone, including himself, just absolutely destroyed their backs. He can barely stand up straight anymore because his back is just finished. I'm curious how tanks are. I'm also curious if doing tank repair is safer or more dangerous than working in the tank for the same reason. Again, not counting people shooting at you.
37:25 I see no differences between these 2 things
as such let's play a nice friendlty game
dibs on the left one, i mean it's first in line after all :)
I think the real question is though, how do you tension the track?
Slightly more advanced than combat zone on the spectrum 48k
Hi you mentioned Leopard 1 - I was an Australian Leo 1 CC and Gunnery Inst, (20 yrs service 76 to 96) - not sure if our AS1 with the Belguim TFCS is in your simulator but if it is I would be happy to provide any help/advise ... J ... ps they have all been replaced with the M1A1 now and none are in service/reserve or were sold to another Army so I wouldn't think anything about the tank would still be classified.
It is, actually, but only the FCS, not the entire inside of the tank. I might have to combine it with a video on another Leo 1. And I've one of your blue (MLW) books for the thing. Can you do me a favour and send me a message on my Facebook page? I'm not seeing a PM option for you on UA-cam.
@@TheChieftainsHatch message sent
6:02 Well, that doesn't mean Norwegian necesarily. After all Spain and Portugal have tungsten mines of their own (and actually Spain supplied tungsten to the Germans in WW2).
I am sure it's a reference to NAMMO - Raufoss nammo.com/who-we-are/locations/norway/nammo-raufoss/
@@colbeausabre8842 Probably, but in Spain we have our own Ammo factories and produce it locally...
Podemos URSS recentlty bought by NAMMO
@@glmm2001 Partially. The shareholders of SBS are a mixture between Nammo, General Dynamics and the Spanish government.
Not bad.
Are the switches by the TC's hatch for the smoke grenade launchers?
Nope, question answered later in video.
Can you have a talk about the M36 Jackson ?
Cierra afuerra: close out (lock out)
The M-1911 A1 is the perfect design. So I found a metric caliber with high capacity.
www.armscor.com/firearms/ria/rock-series/rock-ultra-fs-hc-10mm/
Enjoy.
I wonder if the fire control system developers provided the steel beast developers with their software.
AFAIK, the way is usually that the users of the vehicles tell the game developers on how they want it done...
at first I heard the Bizzaro. that would be kind of a strange name for a military verical or any verical.
It's Pizzarro. The vehicle is named for Franciso Pizzarro, the Spaniard who led the conquest of the Incas in Peru and that area in the period from about 1520 to 1530.
Bizarro means Brave in Spanish, not weird.
@@podemosurss8316 as i don´t speak or read spanish. It kind of sounds like the english word bizarre. but it´s intresting to know.
@@exploatores Well, I'm a native Spanish speaker, and though both come from the same Latin word, they picked Up different meanings.
Well, in Spanish Bizarro means "courageous".
Hi there,
I am sure you get 6.022 x 10^23 messages per video, but I wanted to post that I saw your book on Amazon and I bought it as support and for my collection ( I also have the O. Carius books).
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Thank you!
Can you travel within the US to film an episode? If so, come to Illinois, Cantigny Park, the 1 ID museum and specifically, the tank park outside of it. Google it...
I was Gunner/Loader on Leopard2A6/A6M+ and A7. Im not sure if Steal Best its worth it. Anyone experience?
It is. The Leopards are modelled pretty well there. Also have a good community going with weekly battles going on sunday night...combined arms with tanks, armoured infantry, mortars, arty ...etc etc check: www.steelbeasts.com for a try...
Do more modeling videos!
Someone pinched the seat cushions.
Love the channel,interesting subjects, maybe you couldhelp me out. I've come across a brass 75mm drill round that's dated 1944. Can't find anything out adopt it.
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Need more info than that....
I thought you wrote BIZARRO switchology
It has a number M19A1 ,is that enough?
Sounds like the drill round (imitating M48 HE) for the M116 Pack Howitzer
Really, it says something like that on the end cap,howitzer and M4A1.
You are correct,Sir. Just found out last night.
What game is this
Chally 2 driver and gunner here, if you have any Qs, by all means, would love to tell.
What are your thoughts on the rheinmantall gun being dropped in it?
@@josephhardwicke6344 Like anything with procurement, I'll believe it when it happens.
I'm sorry, I don't have it with me at the moment.
I’m sure if this vehicle has shit FLIR or if you just didn’t focus it but that is a horribly bleary image. In my Bradley at close range I can recognize faces in the FLIR, if it is adjusted right.
A3 then? FLIR is a tad better, more expensive, and more modern than most thermal imagers. My A2 Brad couldn’t get facial recognition
The_Chieftain an upgraded version of the A2 actually but it’s newer than most A3s. M2A2 ODS SA. The primary difference between it and an A3 is the lack of a CIV. they replaced my units old A2s back in 2014, although I got the distinct impression that they were not brand new just refurbished.
You can't compare a 90's IFV with a 2010's one. As the Chieftain said, there is an upgrade on the works.
I spot a track changing problem on modern tanks - ua-cam.com/video/b58l1Cm4Ybw/v-deo.html.
Mmmh... Warthog...
it's not a joystick it's a control handle
tbh, if you can make it simple and work well, why complain?
Stupid auto correct, I meant about it.
well im here of you want to talk about the cv9035 former driver of the danish version... So if needed just pm me.
I don't see a PM option for you on UA-cam. Can you send me a message through facebook.com/TheChieftainWargaming ?
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First thing the Spanish should upgrade is an ATGM system, even if its something less impressive like the MILAN system as on the Marder. Not having that capability is honestly a little pityful.
This seems like a death trap. Lightly armoured and no blow-off panels means that if it gets hit, not only will it explode and kill the crew, but likely all the passengers as well. To top it off, it doesn't even have good firepower with only a 30mm autocannon and coaxial machinegun. No anti-tank missiles. Not very impressive.
It's an IFV from the 90's. You may want to check the ASCOD 2 for how it has evolved.
Some People still don't know that esp. for IFV insensitive ammo is a thing since the late 90's... :-P
@@RoninTF2011 To be honest I was trolling. I just find it funny how people always say that Soviet vehicles that don't have blow-off ammo panels are "death traps", but for some reason never apply the same standard to vehicles from other countries. The Pizarro actually looks like a pretty decent IFV, although it would be nice to have AT missiles. I suppose the infantry could carry missiles in the back and dismount to use them, so it's not the end of the world. :P
@@alieu156 tbf, the T-72's with "non-nonsensitive" ammo stored right under the gunners ass...are deathtraps :-P