Choosing a NAS for your Creative Environment
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2021
- #QNAP #Exascend #NAS
Part 1 of Choosing and setting up a NAS for your Creative Environment.
Review of TS-973AX: • Best QNAP NAS for Vide...
What is NAS: www.qnap.com/solution/what-is...
QNAP: www.qnap.com/en/
QNAP TS-h973AX: www.qnap.com/en/product/ts-h9...
QNAP TVS-1288x: www.qnap.com/en/product/tvs-h...
Exascend Enterprise SSD: exascend.com/
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Really appreciate the advice! Great video!
Hey Mike, thanks for sharing your knowledge on choosing the right NAS with us! Really helpful tips for any content creators looking to set up a centralized storage system for their data. Also, it was very kind of you to mention Exascend's products in your video. We appreciate that.:) Keep up the good work!
Hi Exascend, Thank you for supporting the Mediaman Channel. I could not do content without help from companies like yours.
For everyone watching, Exascend is not a paid sponsor, I just really like their products and they were kind enough to lone me equipment so I can make these types of videos.
Thanks again Exascend....
OMG this channel is AMAZING! I hope you continue doing this work, is the first one so specfic to Content Creation and so deep and technical. Amazing stuff, thank you!
Hi Philippe, thank you for the very kind words. I have just got a new studio and an setting up the equipment for recording some more comments. Please stay tuned for more great content.
That's a lot of info in 10 minutes. Looking forward to the 2nd part. I think a NAS could be my next hardware investment, I churn through hard drive space and it can be tedious to backup.
Seconding Adam here - lots of info and also looking forward to Part 2/n! PS - love the large desk you are using here. Maybe showcase your studio sometime? Looks nice. One person operation here, have been looking at 4/5 bay Synology. I'm going to wait until I watch the entire series
thanks for the video! It is helping me to learn more about it and make a decision on getting QNAP for my video editing.
Editing of the videos are getting better. I watched some old videos and cuts were very rough. And would like to see rendering benchmarks on Mid range hardware and prev gen hardware too. NIce content btw keep it up
new subscriber and really enjoying your videos! tnx a lot!
This is very informative, thank for the video
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video! This last Spring I was really getting sick of running out of storage and managing files across my multiple machines. So built a NAS.
Picked up a Synology DS1621+, a 10Gb Ethernet PCI add on for it, 6x Seagate Exos x16 16TB drives, 2x 512GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus m.2 drives. Also needed to update my home network to take advantage of 10Gb speeds so also picked up a QNAP QSW-M408-4C switch. Highly recommend that switch as it works great and for what it does is a decent price.
Put the NAS in a RAID 6 for protection for up to 2 drive losses. Know RAID 6 is slower but it is still giving me great speeds and the protection with storage amount that I need. It is definitely the best equipment purchase for my business that I have made.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the channel.
This is great! Network Attached Storage appliances have come a long way. I have used a NAS for at least 12 years and have enjoyed the convenience and ease of use of my personal 2TB drive. As a network administrator in my previous job, I used several NAS appliances in RAID 5 configuration as dual-location backup servers. However, one caveat, never let your NAS anywhere near the Internet. As a marketing gimmick, manufacturers are selling their NAS as a streaming media server. That means Internet connectivity. A huge NO NO. QNAP learned this the hard way when their NAS suffered a vulnerability a few years ago. They have since fixed this. As tempting and attractive as it sounds with all that storage space a NAS is designed to do just that. Store your data in a Redundant Array of Inexpensive Drives (RAID) securely behind a firewall away from the prying eyes of the Internet. JustSaying. By the way, this is great information and clearly presented! 👍🏽
Thanks for doing this series, I'm going to watch them all now. Too many channels never actually show how to setup the NAS, which is unfortunate because that's what most of us have never done.
I don't see a link to part 2 of this mini-series so as a courtesy to us all here is part 2 of this NAS series:
ua-cam.com/video/q51SHHFBcbA/v-deo.html
Thanks Patrick. here is a link to part three and i will be making a few more on this subject in the next few weeks. so stay tuned.
ua-cam.com/video/zTD3wUgCp-c/v-deo.html
@@MediamanStudioServiceswhere u been? Hope all is well. Just found ya great stuff!
@@TrggrWarning I had to relocate to Vancouver from Malaysia. So have to set up a new studio over here. Be back soon. Thanks for the support
I never had any experience with NAS...very intimidating especially how to set it up and configure the right settings
Hi theWanderer521, I will have Part two of these video released soon that will help you set up the NAS.
Thanks for watching
Hi Mike, thanks for the video's. Very helpful! I'm a wedding photographer with also many 4K video productions and have had it with all the external drives each year. I worked for 5 years on the QNAP TVS-872XT for high end video productions so I know how good a QNAP is :-). But now it's time to get one dor myself. Now there are two NAS's that seems interesting for me, the Ts-h973ax or the Ts-673a. I saw your video about the QTS hero vs the QTS tier, do you think I will also benefit with the tier version for 1000's of high res photo editing per project? For video it seems like a no brainer. Many thanks for the input! Cheers
hi Chess, tiering will be good for any workflow. I did like the TS-973ax and did a review on my channel. check it out
I would love to see an option optimized for simulations, like houdini particles and fluid. Some kind of NAS that can handle both the amount of space and speed to get a responsive viewport reading the cached files from the NAS. Thank you. Great video, by the way.
hi Lúcio Freitas, now this is the one workflow that I recommend to use local NVMe drives for, as sim and fluid work requires a lot of drive space and fast drives.
not to say you could not do this work on a NAS but you would need something very fast 3000-5000MBps) and a 25g network connection to the storage.
But if I can get my hands on such a NAS device, I will do a video
thanks for watching
Is it possible to render from a nas? For example rendering a 3d scene in maya or blender.
Or I guess the real guess is it possible to access files with blender or maya through a nas or do you need to move the nas from storage to work station to access the file? Sorry for noob questions
Hi Trevor. Yes you can render and work off a nas device. This is one of the benefits of using a nas. You can also add other workstations to your network for rendering.
hi again
i wanted to confirm that is it possible that your pc has dual rtx a6000 in sli for 96g of vram for large complex scenes and a seperate pc with quad 3090 for processing
i really doubt if it is possible that blender using vram from pc gpus and processing power from render box pc with 4 3090
hi SAHIL, as the render box that I used in my video is jat a PCIe extension, the GPUs act just like they are in the same system, so if you have say 4 GPUs in the system and 4 in an external render pox connected via this PCIe extension, then they all will work together. But there iare some windows limitation to ID addressing when using this many GPUs in the same system. Linux can handle this type of work load.
thanks for watching.
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hello there
first of all thank you for so much information about rendering and stuff multi gpu etc as there is very less available on the platform
I have so many questions to which the internet has no answers and i know that u and only u can solve those
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my work is all about rendering 3d models (arcitectural buildings statues game characters in 3d physics motion AI learning streaming and some linux in specific) i know that cpu rendering falls short in such workloads and single graphic cards take quiet some time to render so multi gpu is the only option left now the question is that should i go for quad 3090s with vrm being 24g or dual a6000 with sli and 96g vram also can i go for 4 cards with two sli running on all cards .
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i beg you to make a special video on multi gpu not talking about the technical part like time taken but about vram and processing power in all possible configs like
1 card
2 cards no sli
2 cards sli
3 cards no sli
3 cards with 2 in sli
4 cards not in sli
4 cards with a pair of sli or 2 nvlink bridges
and analysis about vram and available horsepower to render
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖 ALSO MONY IS NO LIMITATION IN OUR CASE SO PREFER THE BEST
HI SAHIL, I would love to do a video on all of the GPU configurations you have requested, but the issues is that I do not have access to the GPU.
As for building a system with dual SLI using 4 GPU, yes you can have 2 SLI in pairs in the same system, but this is supported only in Linux. Windows can only support one SLI set up,
I would suggest that you use a remote services for you GPU processing. There is many services that will set up the configuration for you to use remotely for rendering and processing.
Contact this company as they are great for this type of work.
ampd.tech/
thanks for watching
@@MediamanStudioServices hi again
i wanted to confirm that is it possible that your pc has dual rtx a6000 in sli for 96g of vram for large complex scenes and a seperate pc with quad 3090 for processing
i really doubt if it is possible that blender using vram from pc gpus and processing power from render box pc with 4 3090
(Dual-kit 32 x 2=64 vs Two single-kit 32+32=64) use of two single-kit 32+32=64
will this affect the performance?
Hi VB, have a look at this video for more information.
ua-cam.com/video/mRWLYAGaWQ0/v-deo.html
So editing 6K RED or 4K Prores4444 is no problem with a 10Gbe connection? Even multilayer?
Sorry but that is such an open question that I could never answer. Can you get a 6K stream thru a 10Gb network connection. Sure you can. But...You will need to look at your editing workflow and then decide what type of Storage you require. This is not a simple question.
@@MediamanStudioServices understand. If not multicam but just one ore two layers mostly mixed codec footage UHD timelines. One ore max two workstations. Can I still edit cut scrub without problems over a 10Gbe connection? Looking for a solution for a lot of footage that can be accessed immediately and a flexible way of working. Workstation for intensive projects and laptop for setting up projects where ever I have utp in the office.
@@FritsJanSmit well then I do recommend the 1288x NAS, but I would add some high capacity SSD (4TB ot higher) for the Qtier as well as 2 NVMe drives for read/write cache. Then you have the HDD for longer term storage. Your other choice is move to a all flash NAS, but the cost is a lot higher. Or build your own NAS with TrueNAS in a Computer case with all SSDs.
@@MediamanStudioServices thanks. I am a creative so not experienced in building these things. Thanks for the insight. Will take your insight in my offer to supplier.
@@FritsJanSmit good luck. let me know when you get the nas. I can assist with the set up
Can NAS be made up of SSD drives alone too?
Yes they can. You can have an all FLASH storage NAS, but the SSD drives are smaller in capacity and a higher cost.
Also I think if you leave an SSD sitting on a shelf not powered up for a long time it has a higher chance of failing/losing data than an HDD. Correct me if am wrong anyone!
@@metatrongroove2824 How does that work?
Thank you for your helpful videos, I really looking for long time someone like could help me in such thing like workstation GPU's. If you never mind could you please testing GPU's for Mac users? I have a 2015 15" MacBook Pro, I want spend money to upgrade, sadly that Mac do not support Nvidia and AMD GPU's are worthless comparing to Nvidia as I saw in many benchmark websites!
Hi Hamad, I also have the 2015 MBP and I hate that laptop, I have been using Mac laptops for 15 years and I will never buy one again. As far as Mac supported GPUs, well, you are very limited to just AMD eGPUs in external cases, and at that price, you should just buy a cheap PC and put a Nvidia GPU in it. Sorry for the limited response, but there is not much choices for you.
thanks for watching.
@@MediamanStudioServices Thanks man for your replay, and yes its too slow for new technology now a days! Specially it's come with intel ship! I been using PC before and it's horrible comparing to Mac's. I wished if there fully workstation laptop or desktop from Nvidia itself you know, rather than buying different part for one laptop or desktop like most of windows PC's! To be honest am writing today to see the new Apple Mac's maybe I could buy one instead to buy PC with external GPU! Hope to find NVIDIA RTX A6000 in market!
This video is good but it strikes me as biased as you did not look at the full spectrum. There are harddrives attached to a router, these NAS you are showing, custom pcs with lots of harddrives and finally servers and cloud.
Lets face it, if we want to use the words a powerful nas, the QNAP is not in the conversation. A Ryzen 5 5600 or ryzen 7 would destroy qnap and full build would be cheaper than any qnap. For what you are talking about we could build a ryzen 5900x cheaper and that would destroy any qnap for the next 10 years at idle. To be realistic for the price we are starting to walk into the world of server builds over a pc build that is being used as a server. This is not even touching cloud options.
Lets be honest and place things into perspective. Hard-drives attached to a router is gimmicky and not very fast or reliable. It is not terribly cheap either in the scheme of things. Qnap and those like it, is nothing more than an expensive, low power, plug and play for those that dont want any effort on their storage device. PCs take a little more effort to set up but are cheaper and more powerful based on your needs but research is the key. Given the software out there, it is not any easier or harder at the end of the day once setup. Servers are always more expensive but built for the purpose, they have better capacity and can come with support. Cloud is a simple pay and play but storage is expensive and they are not responsible unless you pay for it to back up your storage.
Wow. There is a lot to digest here. First off why biased. I never claimed that this was the only solution on the market. This video was for anyone that needs a Nas for high speed transfer and does not want to build their own system. And that is does great. The qnap software is well developed and have years of proven to be reliable. It's easy to set up and easy to maintain. Yes there is more powerful system and build your own is an option. But not everyone want to do that. As for cloud. Unless you want to get a 10gb internet line in your house, how will you get the performance that a onprem storage system can offer. That is insane to state that cloud is an option for production storage. Thanks for your opinion and watching. But your statements only are for a small subset of artist. I am trying to offer help to a wider group of people
@@mikebrown9826 I agree you never claimed it was the only solution on the market. However nor did you claim it was only for a simple cheap prebuilt for those that want to plug and play without any hassles.
It is here that many creators talk about this solution but neglect that it is far from the only solution. Outside of my super nerdy friends, many did take your video as definitive as they do not have depth or breath of knowledge to say, is there not other solutions? (I asked nearly a dozen people.) Further as a content creator and influencer you take on a larger responsibility over the average joe or jane in how you present options. By saying this is what I use, validates it to many. Further you have the unique position to expand peoples’ horizons into other possibilities. I am not saying you have to build everything and create a walk through, but being clear about what else is out there, even if it is a 10,000m view of the situation can cause people to asks questions. Lucky for you, this is a path to more great content as you build your channel. To me it was a huge let down considering your other content.
Also, a 10gig line for same as on premise, please dont make such exaggerated statements. You and I both know the speed of their network hardware from cables to connectors, routers and switches, the capability of their pc or more likely wireless connection wont come close to supporting 1gig in the majority of homes or studios around the world. This completely ignores the capabilities of the nas hardware and the harddrives and how it is configured. Many would be lucky to break 100mb much less the speeds you are suggesting. Not to say cloud is a viable solution, but it is an option in the grand spectrum of things none the less.