AtlasOS Review
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- I don’t review Custom ISO or Custom Windows. Anything that requires downloading ISO is an immediate red flag. AtlasOS takes a different approach using official Microsoft ISOs and modifying them using an open source tool.
Website Article: christitus.com/atlasos-review/
Referenced LTT Video: • You don’t need a new P...
00:00 - What is AtlasOS
01:12 - The Security Problems
05:38 - What is Removed
05:56 - How its installed
06:07 - Whats in the Atlas Playbook
06:57 - Atlas Wizard Run
08:10 - Recommendations for AtlasOS
11:52 - Atlas Configuration Tools .
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Website Article: christitus.com/atlasos-review/
Referenced LTT Video: ua-cam.com/video/dc7CIkZcWYE/v-deo.html
Please note: I do NOT review Custom Windows ISOs. If it requires you to download an ISO from a shady file sharing site or torrent... IT SHOULD NEVER BE USED!
Am I sounds correct? If it's lite weight custom windows, can we strip down unwanted things further and make it as container for linux, since it's open source can't it good way to run windows binary in linux, for example consider vanilla os it's immutable os and have container for every possible linux, share your thoughts, I hope you will note this comment...
Hi Chris Titus Tech. I have very important questions.(For me is important your answers.)
1. When is new CTT Windows toolbox release?
2. Is it offline?
3. Is it will have Windows Update and Windows Defender delet or shut down permanently options?
4. It will support Windows 10 : a. iot enterprise ltsc 2021 ?
b. enterprise ltsc 2021 ?
c. pro 2004 and 2009 pro ?
Thank you very much for your time and response.Have a good day.
Yes
Tried to buy your Rasberry Pi OS today & thought you should know the discount code no longer works- after logging in & filling out my Credit card info when I put in the code (ALL CAPS as per your vid TITUS50) It tells me that it's an invalid discount. I detest bait & switch tactics so I won't be buying it unless you fix the issue before the aforementioned May 2nd deadline.
would AtlasOS work well as Parallels on MacOS?
Hey, main atlas dev here :). Thanks for all suggestions, and we are happy to be featured here.
Any chance at a W11 based version? Definitely a few features (HDR calibration and proper/great dx10/11 boarderless window's integration to name the big ones) would like to see.
And as mentioned in the video, definitely think UAC needs to be opt-in-able, same with smart screen and defender.
More transparency is always a good thing as well. I realize documentation is a pain, but it a great thing to have (even for yourself as a developer).
@@winebartender6653 UAC is already opt-in, and it will be enabled next version. Win 11 coming soon
Any way we can send crash data to you see what's going on outa 3 tests rigs a 10900K seems to be super unstable almost windows 98 levels of bad.
@he3als they've been saying windows 11 coming soon for months now.. almost a year..
@@shadowarez1337 my boy what did u do lmao
Thank you so much for making this video!
This is why i look at LTT as an entertainment channel, not a HOWTO channel.
I like seeing what they do, but i dont ever take any advice from them.
no one uses Linus for a how to
I only listen to Anthony from LTT. They need to allow him to do more Linux videos. But, since that channel is more for windows users, specifically gamers, that won't happen.
But LTT is more informal then Markass
@@burhanbudak6041 Watch Gamers Nexus if you want real details.
Exactly, I rarely take them seriously these days, as their Twitter account even tried the other day to spread the fudd to idiots that Linus Torvalds got bit by a Penguin has to how Tux became the mascot, and in the same post that Linus Torvalds created "Linux OS" 🤦♂️ I pointed the falsehoods out, and lord, and did I get an earful from the idiots who follow him.
I understand your concerns with AtlasOS, but your concerns are actually the reason why Atlas is attractive to me. You said it perfectly when you said that it can be used as a temporary system just for certain tasks you might want to accomplish. I'm going to go ahead and pick it up and check it out for an offline device.
AtlasOS is for people who use Linux as daily driver but still need a windows virtual machine for some proprietary apps and gaming. This is the best use case for AtlasOS in my opinion. And I think Chris did a great job of explaining why people can't use AtlasOS as main operating system the main reason being some of Windows security features are disabled by the AtlasOS team. and i guess everyone knows how good is the relationship between windows and viruses. :)
@dreaper5813 Then why are you posting here? Everyone on earth knows that some folks don't need any version of Windows on their machines.
Very good opinion
@@jesse7631 this guy just wants attention replying to all comments saying he uses linux as if anyone cares
@dreaper5813 You haven't "proved a point". Do you really think stating a personal opinion is proving something?
You're actually right. As a fellow GNU/Linux user my virtual machines were running Windows 7 Pro but now I might finally switch to Atlas for modern feel and this might be it.
This is my thoughts on this Chris and yes I watched the LTT video, I can see myself maybe using this in a duel boot situation possibly running this as a Gaming only OS and then duel booting a more secure OS for anything else. I definitely think Atlas has hit a homerun with this in terms of creating a better suited OS for gaming, but I'm in agreence with you on the holes this leaves in security. I wouldn't do my banking on it lets just put it that way and leave it there. I think I'd duel boot this and use some type of more secure Linux Distro for those sorts of tasks. Cheers
Thanks for this video. I saw LTTs video yesterday and I went to your page looking for a review, lol.
I am no gamer so I wouldn't use this, I have been strictly Linux since last year June. But, I always appreciate your honest and unbiased input.
Thanks again.
Thanks. After I've seen that LTT video, I wanted to know your opinion. I'm glad that I didn't wait long.
So glad to see you did a video on this. Just learned about it because of the LTT video and was wondering how safe it is. Writing this comment before I actually watch the video admittedly, I installed it on a spare laptop I have and the only complaint I have about it is it seems like they really stripped the OS down to the point where you can't even add stuff like group policy editor into windows home like you normally would. I'm sure your video will shed some more light on everything for me though.
@D Reaper Stop the hate train, noone really needs to do anything to get their Windows running on their system, these stripped down system are for .. whoever .. people that apparently think they need it like that to get the system working for them.
But then they have like a PC or Laptop from 2013, that was even 2013 already outdated by like 5 years.
People really having 4GB RAM Systems in 2023 is not Windows fault, people still not wanting to change that 32GB SSD to a 500GB SSD for like 20 Bucks isn't Windows fault either.
We all know the good ol' "The Main issue to any Problem, usually sits in front of the PC" is the classic case here.
But I'm happy for you, that you enjoy your Linux.
@@Electric_Doodie you are exactly the problem my guy. You're definitely the type to just throw away a perfectly good PC based on this reply. The entire purpose of atlas OS is to repurpose old and out of date hardware that would otherwise be e-waste. If this is truly how you feel it really sucks knowing that you're definitely not the only one who feels this way. But it also makes it really apparent why the planet is literally dying from waste.
@D Reaper and anyone that buys a PC / Laptop with like 4GB of RAM or a 750 GPU or whatever, nowadays, NEW, kind of deserves that the system doesn't work.
Don't get me wrong, I know that people use old, like really old hardware, but Windows 10 easily works, non modified on any 10 Year old System, even nowadays. What some of these people don't have is a SSD, their 10 Year+ old HDD is dieing, etc and yet they refuse to go the easiest route in theory and rather think a "Debloated" Windows will save it all, which it doesn't.
@@thisismelsemail1217 I don't tho, I gave away my perfectly functional system from like 2017 (with a 1070) to a friend when I didn't needed it anymore.
Yet there is no reason to use a Debloated Windows for it. And people who still are on a System even older, might have completely different issues if their system is completely slowing down then just old hardware (No SSD for some, bloated over the years and never did a fresh install, etc).
There's so many things that just makes these Debloated Versions obsolete in many cases, because the gains are so marginal / non existent at all.
@@Electric_Doodie well my laptop fro. 2011 disagrees with your statement. Running an old AF pentium CPU and 4 gigs of ram, it just simply can't run windows 10. I've been stuck running windows 7 on it despite the security risks. Now I can at least run windows 10 and have slightly less security risks and the creature comforts of win 10. It's all to each their own, I just strongly disagree
I would be curious to see performance difference between something extreme like this, and something more gentler like your decrapify script.
It's likely negligible unless you're using very low-end hardware. Many extreme steps or tweaks don't really affect performance like amount input latency or fps,
@@bradmiles1984 well input latency is where tweaks actually are worth it, not much about fps unless low end rig
@@wraithje Some tweaks are but many tweaks have none when actual testing is done. My point is 90 percent of the tweaks out there don't really help performance. Much of it is more to get rid of annoying things Microsoft has put in or if you are running on very low end system.
@@bradmiles1984 okay show me your test with default windows and new atlas, for most it wont affect fps but i think latency it can help a decent bit. for me it loads a lot faster thats for sure and my fps is a lot more stable
@@wraithje Your asking me for test data but not providing your own. Have you played the same game for extended periods recording the fps on stock and atlas? Channels like Freethy have used actual testing software to test various tweaks and see effects on fps and input latency. There are very few things that actually give an appreciable effect on fps and latency.
1) Enable XMP/DCCP in bios
2) Tune the timings on your ram
3) undervolt/overclock your cpu
4) Make sure your GPU is in MSI mode
5) Set the min gpu frequency with 100mz of the max in your overclock to keep it running at a consistent mhz which helps with hitching/jittering
6) Make sure you have adequate thermals and not being thermal throttled.
This isn't to say Atlas won't help older hardware which is barely passing the minimum hardware needed for games. In those cases lightening the load of the OS will have an impact on fps because the game has more resources to use which was shown in Linus video but they were using old hardware not a modern gaming rig.
It's insane to me that Atlas (and ReviOS) has gotten so much attention recently (mainly due to LTT). It's been around for years, being a custom ISO at first only recently using the playbook / post install method.
However, all these tweaks etc while the desktop might feel snappier (due to animations disabled), it doesn't actually have a performance or latency impact. If anything it's worse. People have tested these tweaks with LDAT tools and other various benchmarking tools and nobody has been able to prove them wrong.
it being snappier is not because of disabled animations lmao, it simply loads things faster and has a looot less going on at once
It gives around 3-7% fps improvement in heavy games. For other games competitive games barely any improvement.
@@wraithje I've used Atlas and compared to my (mostly) stock install, it's the same.
@@griffin1366 Yeah...So if you want any performance difference just use the Ghost Spectre Compact
Thanks for the PSA! As it's kind of touted as a gaming OS and most games have to be run online now, not having security features is just asking for trouble.
Thank you Chris! Your videos are truly helpful.
I think installing ReviOS through the ISO is much better than using playbook by an infinite amount of times, because playbook isn't the most stable and it's better to install the drivers you want, not the ones that are automatically installed. ReviOS also has a playbook as well.
I was waiting for this video after the LTT one. :) thank you Chris!
So for a completely isolated machine, out of the network, say, not to do any kind of social stuff, browsing the internet etc, this would be great, to use exclusively as a CADD workstation for renderings and dedicated solely to work. sounds too good to be true. Thanks for sharing Chris. (BTW, I find somewhat confusing downloading the OS from their site at least to try it in a VM)
They don't post ISOs, which is good. Just grab an official W10/11 ISO and throw it on your VM, then download the tool to apply all the tweaks.
It's really nothing special, just some general services disabled, an "Atlas" folder in you windows directory with extra tweak options, and some security components removed (if you select to remove them, btw don't do that lol). It's more of an optimization tool than a customized windows install in my opinion, but it works well if all you want is a quick way to barebones your install.
Might be kind of silly but MSPaint being removed would be a real bummer for me. I don't use it for anything major but I use it for a lot of quick tasks because it's easy to use to accomplish some simple tasks.
It should be noted that this is specifically for gaming....
just reinstall it
Krita is a pretty good paint program, and it's FOSS.
i run atlas but paint is there for me
Thanks for the video Chris. I was interested to know about the security of this.
Hi Titus, great video! Would you mind looking at new MSMG Toolkit 13.3 for creating custom Windows 10 ISO? I have watched your previous videos but with newer version seems lot of options have been added.
I am currently using base Runit Artix with Hyrpland and very well optimized. I used in the past AtlasOS for about 5 months when they used to post modded ISOs and I can say this team makes neat projects, very polished ones. Glad they're making everything open source.
this runit thing is better than atlas? its linux right?
@@andresinchausti3841 what the fack is a base runit
@@andresinchausti3841 it's linux yeah, artix is the name of the distribution (like windows) and runit in layman terms, is the service manager for the system. The most common service manager on linux is systemd and for ease of use and troubleshooting I'd recommend anything which has systemd (almost all distributions).
Windows stripped-out and Linux are completely different things, if you have a need for windows due to an application not on linux or for work/studies - stick to that. If there's no particular need to use Windows and you're looking for a much more responsive system with better security and maybe a performance increase (but worse support for gaming) then hop on to linux. Linux is easy if you use cmd often on Windows, there's a steep learning curve moving from windows but for someone like me who has a horrible cpu and is just looking for a faster system to use my browser and music on then linux is perfect.
@@andresinchausti3841 Yes I am talking about Linux. If Artix is better than AtlasOS depends on the fact if you play competitive online games and if you are a hardcore computers-lover.
@@sensorboth, but i searching competitive here
This is exactly what I have been wanting! I'm going to install this!
how it went?
I'm a software developer and I use Atlas OS as a VM image for testing. So far, I have not come across any problems with things either working or not working that don't also behave the same way when deployed on our own desktop images within the org. Basically, I use it as a sanity check. Once it works on my VM, I give it to IT for deployment testing, with a fair amount of confidence that I'm not wasting their time. For me, the lack of security, small size, and tiny resource footprint are kind of the point. My hope is that the scripts will ultimately be flexible enough to include or exclude security features for those of us who either like to live dangerously or who sandbox it as a testing environment.
@Fancy Tophat Indeed. I also develop for Linux and try to stay in that OS as much as I can. I personally jumped ship a couple of years ago, but, for better or for worse, I was a Windows desktop dev for a long time, and my org has lots of those still in use.
yer a bullshitter AtlosOS marketer. If you are in the industry you CLAIM you are in, youve been using DISM, SCCM, InTUNE, NTLite and GPO for a DECADE(S). The only thing this project does that ISNT ALREADY standard practice- is ripping out defender and SPECTRE mitigations. Typical virtualization platforms are so CPU rich, that disabling SPECTRE mitigations in the VM image, or NOT -- is mostly inconsequential. Its generally considered a waste of time. I distrust this Project because of the validation they seek
I'm a CG artist and looking at installing it to see if it improves render times, but mainly latency. I can't stand how slow W10 even with all the registry optimizations and bloatware removed. As far as security, I don't care if Defender or whatever Pedosoft installed isn't there. I have better tools for that. I just want speed. If people stopped watching sites they shouldn't be at, their computers wouldn't be infected as often, it's common sense. There was an article a while back the author showed how unnecessary antivirus are nowadays with modern software. I mainly go to a few safe sites, and that's it.
If anybody is worried about security, they can install it on a separate drive or something.
And right after i asked brodie Robertson on whether he'd go for atlas or your script, you made a video. Glad to know your opinion on this, i did cringe when i saw the list of removed stuff on the ltt video
Hopefully they add a way to customize the optimization process. Thanks for giving it a spin and sharing your thoughts. I'll keep on eye on Altus since I like the idea but you're right to much is removed to be put on a daily driver.
Atlas manager here, there are indeed plans for that in the near future, we're focusing the suggestions we were given in this video to improve
@@radnotred since you guys apparently name your self tech enthusiasts, how come, that you guys by default made Atlas the way it is (aka actually bad, by removing even the most important features, like Trim/Defrag, etc)?
I really wish to know how you guys decided on what to disable and what to keep enabled.
@@radnotred Thank you chiming in. I'm really interested in your project and look forward to where it goes in the future.
@@Electric_Doodie Not affiliated with Atlas, but trim/defrag is useless on SSDs.
@@rFey I still wouldn't disable Trim for a SSD. And since Atlas is supposed to be for weak systems, which might not even have SSD, Defrag is still a valuable feature for these HDDs.
I'm copying a comment i left on another atlas video but i really liked your take on it you expanded on some things i was curious about.
In my experience so far the performance gains are almost too hard to ignore. It's made a little gateway folding netbook/tablet with a Celeron an 4gb of ram and 60gb of storage a completely usable computer again. it is actually faster to start and run basic stuff than my gaming laptop.
I rarely used the computer prior to atlas because it was very slow and then ran out of storage during a windows update. Now the pc is very responsive and performing far beyond what i ever expected from the hardware. Between the responsiveness of the system and the battery life and convenience of folding it to tablet mode I've found it to be my go to pc for anything simple and quick.
That all being said i may look into the uac stuff and maybe antivirus but im not logged into anything on it so whatever if it dies i'll wipe it again
Thanks for this video. I was looking at Win 10 Enterprise LTSC before AtlasOS crossed my path.
I'm also now aware of debloat options but know next to nothing about them, so I'll be doing research on what's out there.
Sadly I'll need to upgrade my OS next year so crunch time is getting close.
I was fully expecting this video to just be you dogging on Atlas for 16 minutes, but you brought up a lot of good points and were very constructive about it, nice video.
Chris is usually pretty fair on this stuff.
Anyone else have the best experience ever asking questions or getting help through the forums it’s a amazing community
Just for fun, I decided to install it on an old 4 core/4 thread CPU / DDR2 'puter and with just it and an SSD instead of a spinner, it is VERY snappy! It feels just as fast or faster than my I9 9900K rig, on which I have as stripped down as possible version of Winders' 11. I have more playing with it to go to finish checking it out, but so far, other than the security concerns, it's great.
Chris, if you have an Atlas box and only used something like Steam for games and nothing much else, are there any security concerns? You’re not checking mail or surfing - where is the risk?
When it comes to custom Windows isos I would just use one of the ones from Windows X lite because they have option in the installer to have Windows defender or not and I bet all the security features are there and even Windows updates work you just have to resume them. The only negative thing about the isos from Windows x lite is page file/virtual memory is disabled but enabling it is easy to do by clicking on their custom enabler to enable virtual memory.
I'm really happy with the choices the Atlas devs made, also the security ones. My usecase is I am a musician, I play vst's on my dedicated laptop in Cantabile, and I don't want any random virus scan starting when I am in a pianosolo. Also, it is always offline. My OS needs a fileexplorer, a startbutton, and that's it.
Also, it's a cool laptop and i have now multibooted it with Atlas and normal Win11 for everything else, which is nothing really.
It would be cool if you covered the latest Windows X-Lite versions, I would love to hear your opinion on those.
Here is my take on it.
The update system of Windows 10 and 11 is extremely aggressive. It downloads updates without your permission and installs them without your permission. Even if you specifically tell Windows 10/11 to stop updating (*turn off automatic updates*), it will STILL update.
If you stop the service for automatic updates, another service will start that service again. If you disable ALL services that have anything to do with automatic updates AND you edit the registry to disable it, Windows 10/11 will still find a way to update.
I, for example, followed a very complicated UA-cam tutorial on how to disable automatic updates on Windows 10/11 once and for all, which included turning it off, persistently disabling four services, going into the registry and changing many lines there... and I thought it worked... until Windows 10 started updating again...
The only way to stop automatic updates on Windows 10/11 without shutting off Internet, is to completely break Windows 10/11. Not disabling some things, but actually destroying it. Cripple it. Cutting off its arms and legs. Make it such that Windows 10/11 simply *cannot* update any more, because all body parts responsible for that are cut off, at the very base.
That is the only way to stop automatic updates. So, I hail AtlasOS for doing that! 😀
It's like a robot that keeps walking, despite you having pressed the button 100000 times to stop walking. Then you use the physical switch to remove the connection to its legs, but the robot - somehow - still manages to use those mechanical legs. Then you cut off the wires leading to those legs. The robot now stops walking, but after a while, it starts moving its legs again.
Then you physically remove the robot's mechanical legs, so that no matter what, the robot just *can't* walk any more, because the legs are missing.
That is the only way to disable automatic updates with Windows 10/11. Not trying to disable things, but remove them. Remove them completely. Completely cut off part of the system. Remove the robot's mechanical legs. Only then, the system stops updating.
I think you hate robots
@@araiso8672.
Not really. I love robots! 😀
I just gave an example of something physical (robots) to visualise what I was trying to say! 🙂
Exited to hear about this on the wan show! Hopefully...
This might be worth a try for an offline Audio Workstation PC to help decrease DPC latency. Latency spikes suck!
This might be what I need for a specific use case... Input USB 3.0 PTZ camera and run NDI tools to convert the video to NDI. I have a little J4105 computer doing this now with your scripts, but I'm up at 95% CPU and bumping up near 99% too often for comfort. At 99% or 100% the stream glitches which I want to avoid. Your tools got me closer from the default Win10 it shipped with, there might be a few other things I can safely strip out. If they make a security feature version that might give me back that 5% I need to be more stable.
Hey Chris, why does removing spectre and meltdown mitigation LOWER performance on more modern CPUs?
Search:
With AMD Zen 4, It's Surprisingly Not Worthwhile Disabling CPU Security Mitigations
After your video on Tiny11 I was waiting for this one. Glad to hear there are good parts about it. If I was to install it, it would be for an older gaming only PC or my old Surface Pro 2, but I won't bother until they stop removing the security focused applications like Defender. As always Chris, love your content. I've been in the computer industry for around 25 years, but you're never too professional to keep learning new things and I always learn something new from you.
Love the vids Chris! still don't understand why I need Trim feature on SSDs. Any help there? cheers
Using the TRIM command reduces the amount of data an SSD needs to move during the garbage collection process and reduces the amount of erase cycles, enabling the drive to last longer. By avoiding unnecessary copying of invalid data, the write performance of the drive speeds up.
@@ChrisTitusTech Thank you friend! see you at LTX2023!
Very informative. I'll keep it off my main system, but it could be super neat for fiddling with old systems.
Nice vid Chris. here is an idea ...how about create a video about PC Recovery tools? I was thinking about using Hirens but then came across MediCat? which would be the best option to go with?
I enjoy your Videos Chris, Atlas sounds exactly like what I want lol. Been doing this for 40 years so I'm no noob here. And frankly, I don't want any of Window's so-called security. I've been running 7 bare metal for a number of years now and I see no reason to re-add any now. But I get where you're coming from for those who don't have a clue what they are doing it's risky. I stopped all Windows updates and neutered Defender when they started putting Windows 10 updates in critical updates. That really pissed me off! But now I'm at the point where most major browsers have stopped updating and I guess I'm forced to move on kicking and screaming :) This should be an interesting experiment.
Some feature's like UAC and Bluetooth you can enable the strip down includes Atlas folder for enable/disable feature's
Thank you for your in depth review!
This is going to be a long question. I have a Dell XPS 15 9500 Core i5. I used to have windows 11 that used Chris's debloating tool. Worked with no issues. But recently something happend (nothing related to the tool) and I had to resort to reinstalling windows 11, but this time the debloater tool is not removing the Edge completly. It's functionality is gone, but its still there.
I have been wondering with there custom window ISO, and been seeing Atlas os and Revi os being mentioned alot. Excluding using the tool again on a fresh install of windows 11. Which custom ISO would you recommned for a daily driver use, mostly for python programming, web browsing and docs and stuff.
Chris how come you don't add the Harden Tools to your iex package? (debloat)
Was wondering your opinion on this since Linus' video
Can you suggest an os with more security to run on an extremely slow low powered laptop ?Basically old celeron with 4 gigs of ram.
Would you say this is good for maybe in a virtual machine. Like maybe your proxmox gaming servers where you can snapshot the system before install.
How do you install this into a virtual machine (VMWare, in my case)? I'm looking at the installation instructions on their website, and it's not exactly leaping out at me. BTW I consider these security considerations to be a red herring, as MS has made a total bloated farce of Windows, but I need to run W10 in a virtual machine still in order to get some work done, and I need every last CPU cycle I can get. I don't click on phishing emails (I wouldn't even use email in this VM) and I have snapshots to roll back to.
Hey I just saw Linus's new video and see that you're going to ltx! That's awesome!
You can enable the update service by stripping out user policy controls forcing windows to create its own again
Great review, thanks. Answered all of the questions I had after watching the LTT puff piece 🙂
what antivirus would you recommend for Atlas considering no windows defender?
Great video. I think you're right, this isn't for the average user. I don't like AUC, but it is better than nothing. I do run Windows without Edge and any virus controls, but my go to is to reinstall. I also only use it for non-secure things like games. No email, shopping, banking or anything else that is personal goes on anything Microsoft.
Thanks for a great video. I might try this on bare metal with only one drive to see how it compares to a bolted Windows install, which is inspired by you video.
Hey new to the channel here, I heard atlas adds reg keys that are perminate on the os (even after reset) that can make anyone that works with atlas tap into peoples computers?
If i install the non-iso version on my windows 10 will it still keep my antivirus and my games on my c drive installed, drivers etc? Super curious using an i7 Alienware Alpha R1
Hi Chris Titus Tech. I have very important questions.(For me is important your answers.)
1. When is new CTT Windows toolbox release?
2. Is it offline?
3. Is it will have Windows Update and Windows Defender delet or shut down permanently options?
4. It will support Windows 10 : a. iot enterprise ltsc 2021 ?
b. enterprise ltsc 2021 ?
c. pro 2004 and 2009 ?
Thank you very much for your time and response.Have a good day.
For gaming, which system would you recomend? Windows 10 or Windows 11?
Chris what you think of ReviOS, it seems pretty legit, and it keeps Updates and Defender through a toggle tool, give it a check
Altlas OS seems interesting, but I wouldn't use it as a daily driver. Most likely in a VM
I read on the Atlas website it still needs a windows licence to activate the windows part of it. Is it possible to run it without and un-activated in a VM. Its not like I'd be using windows all the time.
I'm actually using Atlas Os and my old secondary computer just for simple and not very powerfull game or coding exercice (as I'm a student in IT) So I'm very happy with Atlas and yup don't use it as your primary and personnal and privacy computer ! Just be aware of that ! Great video !
good coverage,
I wonder if you'd make a video on topic of how much debloating (removal of features) actually helps (apart from seeing lower disk space usage or ram usage, which isn't even a "problem" nowadays with cheap RAM and SSDs) instead of just disabling services people don't need,
and another topic - how much security mechanisms and concerns should be leveraged from OS to other components (external backups, firewall in home network, VPNs, behavioral firewall like NetLimiter running on user's PC etc...) because in theory an "almost-offline" machine is much less vulnerable already?
I don't want to be seen as advertising but there's a guy on UA-cam that spent 2 weeks testing every single tweak, doing fresh installs etc. with LDAT tools and other benchmark tools. A relatively stock install is far better for both performance, compatibility and stability.
@@griffin1366 what's the name of the channel?
We are forgetting what are the operating systems for.
They're for:
1. Managing processes, memory, threads, mutexes / semaphores, etc.
2. Managing files and filesystems.
3. To support network (protocols stack, certificates, etc).
4. Managing devices.
Current Windows is a huge bloatware. My corporate laptop Windows directory is 43 GB! And it was freshly installed less than a year ago. With time it grows even larger!
I'm nostalgic about Windows NT 4.0, which needed a couple of hundreds of megabytes.
Yes, now there're cooler filesystems, different hardware, different network protocols. But it shouldn't consume so much disk space! And we do have examples - there're a lot of modern tiny Linux distrtos, consuming less than 1GB of disk space. And they're on a modern kernels, they're secure.
I do not need Windows Defender (It never catched any virus in my history), I hate meltdown mitigations. I never used restore points (I always disable them). They rarely helped me in case of problems with Windows and it's pretty easy to re-intall Windows and my set of tools.
I'm using Atlas in KVM, it saves a ton of disk space and it's much more responsible.
Duuudee, are you reading my mind?, I was just looking for a review for this OS, and I know your style.
Hey Chris, Canonical have said that they will stop supporting Flatpak in favour of Snap. What are your thoughts?
I thought of you when I watched that LTT video. I know it's not "secure" if it stripes out windows defender, but do you think that Atlas itself could come with malware? I thought maybe with the playbook it could be verified, but then I read on their website that they give you an iso. I'm a bit confused by the two distribution strategies
@@FelixVyra Yes, but sometimes these windows alternatives are distributed like that. Chris has a video saying never to trust these isos.
@@MarcelRobitaille That is very true. Never download an ISO that isn't from microsoft. But this is exactly the reason why Atlas is "safe".
Or at least it's safe to install unlike custom ISOs. Probably not very safe to use unless you know what you are doing.
How cool, it just so happens I had been thinking of making my own 10 clean. Which I will still do, I slipstreamed XP with the service packs years ago because the updates were so long, I will look at Atlas mistakes and have my own 10 gamer, I run Linux Mint, I have since 2011, but I have an SSD with 10 on it, for a few of my games, and some updates for hardware. Thanks Chris, the timing for me on this was perfect ~Ramburner
I will still have security on the 10, that's one of the reasons I use Linux primarily.
You can manually reenable UAC btw, it just defaults to off.
I was hoping to use Atlas in a VM on linux for the few windows programs I still use. Primarily my CNC software, Daz Studio, and Zbrush. The few games I do play have linux options.
Hey Chris, this video was very helpful, if you have time to spare could you kindly look into Windows X Lite build ?
My 22H2 Atlas sometimes crashes completely... Also some programs just don't start. No error, nothing. I like that is fast, but it needs refining.
Hopefully can run my 2013 year laptop with this in the future with quiet fans. But definitely need Windows updates and ability to do serious hardening.
Even a couple of years ago this would have interested me for a gaming VM but with the Nobara distro on the one hand and Titus' toolbox on the other it's not of any practical use to me - though kudos to them for open sourcing the project and it'll be cool if they action some of your suggestions.
Hey Titus! How to fix hyprland screen annotation and screen sharing problem...? What to do in order to fix Wayland display compositor issue ...for example gromit-mpx doesn't work on hyprland...
This trouble realy deserves a separate video...
I hope you give attention to this comment Mr Titus
When I try to boot it it says getting services ready... and it just stays stuck there. Can someone help?
I am happy with the PowerShell script that you made...
what about key log reg shadow admins , it does not seem that everything is truly open ,
I really wish that microsoft would make an "advanced installer" where you can select what kind of things you plan to do on your PC and only install the features needed for that, but still have an option to add the other features in the future if it is something that you end up needing. Like for example I have not used a printer in years, and there for I don't need anything related to that on my PC.
its a dedicated task OS, so theres that, as far my experience, IT KICKS ASS !!!! ITS GOOOD if you only want to use 1 apliction, like music making, or video editing, or graphics design, WITHOUT all the BS in the background, soooo good !!!!! i like it a lot !!! I DO RECOMMEND FOR DEDICATED TASKS
I thought this was a very good review. I too had been lured in by the recent AtlasOS hype but became wary about installing after reading some of what was removed, or more specifically by what I didn't see in the summary. I didn't have time to deep dive so what you have done is a great summary and very useful.
It seems prudent to me, that many such stripped back installs are likely to be attractive to people getting into coding or IoT on a budget. From a naive perspective they will see a performant OS that flies on their low cost or old hardware, but they will be laid bare to the internet in the process. It's not good, so if a group wants to offer his type of OS well and good, but make the warnings overt so that newbies don't find out the harm way!
Im using AtlasOS + deepfreeze in my internet coffe stations, works like charm.
The Atlas OS playbook installer (AME) keeps getting flagged as a trojan by Windows security/defender.. Anyone else sees this?
VBS does have performance issue on older CPUs since they don't have dedicated hardware to handle it, so I wouldn't leave it on an older PC. It is also kinda why a lot of old CPUs aren't on the Windows 11 supported list (some should be able to handle it which isn't on the list).
i was following someone else's tutorial to make my pc faster and he featured the CTT tool. He guided us to also enable the remove microsoft edge option. I wasnt told that it would delete edge permanently. Does anyone know how I can get edge back?
The ctt tool create a restore point before doing it's tweaks so you can use the restore point and it probably return edge for you and just run the tool again for the same tweaks without the edge option or you could try run the tool with the option of edge removel with undo button but i think it will work more with a restore point
I only need Windows to have Daylight in my Apartment.
No seriously: I only need Windows to update my Alpha Cameras and Xperia Phones. If I don't run Mails and a Browser it should be fine with Atlas?
Can you make a video how to dual boot Windows 11 with secure boot enable and a Linux distro?
I've been trying to do it, but it's been very difficult or i'm doing something wrong
I was just thinking of a PalmOS launcher screen for Android. Oh the pre MMU days. I guess waiting for wine to get that good is an option. But linux-arm64-8-core kinda makes it a look see into power budgets. Surely a load programs, execute trace minify, all not needed for marked application set removed. Even going to feature blanks in the apps, for things not used. Automatic resource editor, and new lib triggers.
What do you think of Sentinel One?
Am I sounds correct? If it's lite weight custom windows, can we strip down unwanted things further and make it as container for linux, since it's open source can't it good way to run windows binary in linux, for example consider vanilla os it's immutable os and have container for every possible linux, I am open to discuss, share your thoughts, I hope someone will note this comment...
Can you make a video about Ghost Spectre Windows OS or Phoenix LiteOS ?
Some months ago,
I tried atlas for my dual boot-gaming machines.
And I didn’t get the Xbox controller to work.
Does it get better ? 😅
So, Chris, what would frighten you more; daily driving a Custom ISO like AtlasOS? Or running a genuine Windows 7 install?
I tried it out on a already installed version of Windows, did the job BUT! It locked me out as I used fingerprint login and lost access to network drives.
Just to add this was a spare laptop that I use for test like these
This OS is good if you want to have just an installation that doesn't access the internet, just like a embedded install and forget "server".
For a normal gaming and normal usage i would recommend ReviOS with Defender activated.
I'm interested as to what antivirus would you recommend other than windows defender?
Kaspersky, ESET
Atlas os or tiny 11 iso self built using builder as u suggested??
Hello, I turn off Windows, only Windows turns off, but the case does not turn off, please help me, thank you.