I don't understand why they don't just straight up buff UA by like 50%. It is so underwhelming (below agony...) and a buff to it would only buff the area where Aff is lacking (single target) without affecting any form of AoE.
@@slipknotpurity00 by buffing UA. Or FM. Or XG… UA is a ST capped dot and does less damage than agony on ST. Thoughts? They could even make a new ST talent node against Dark Harverst but that’s too much for blizzard to figure out
So … the lock spec that handles movement requirements the worst and thus looses the most relative to patchwerk sims is still the lock spec that does the worst dmg under perfect (aka no movement) conditions. Absolutely no reason to play Aff outside your one per tier council fight.
@@lukelpogromca2033 remove malefic rapture , bring back legion afd and we gucci. Aff is way to stationnary. It doesn't fit the thematic of the class, you are supposed to be mobile and take avantage of it period.
@@lukelpogromca2033 bring back legion aff and we gucci. Aff is way to stationary, its doesn't fit the thematic of the spec. You are supposed to be mobile and take advantage of it. Make malefic rapture a dot who buff other dot on the target. Bring back saw the seed spam. And we gucci
Thank you for sims. Great job. I personally play Affli this season although bit pain sometimes :D. SH for raid mainly and Hellcaller for m+. I would be interested how you feel about hellcaller for m+ after this buff. I got feeling that this buff helps mainly hellcaller and the SL talent will be pain in ***, but could bring big value also.
They should just make necromancer class and make affliction spec from beginning because affli have 0 connections with demons anyways and also we could see some tank spec with bone magic
Destro: Has a 30 second CD that uncapped applies their DoT, and a very powerful short channel that gigascales with haste which also extends that DoT. Also their soul shards work on a factional soulshard system with guaranteed resource generation per DoT tick. On large pulls you will always have so many shards that you can sit there spamming your (instant cast) spender. Aff (The DoT spec): 30 second CD hard capped at 8 targets. No way of extending the DoTs outside of its 1 minute soul rot. Spec does not use fractional soulshard system, and thus does not have guaranteed resource generation per agony tick. 0 Other methods of generating shards outside of your 1 minute CD as SH Aff. Can genuinely run out of shards in a mass AoE scenario meaning you can't send your spender (your main damage source, also hard-casted btw) despite theoretically being in ideal conditions to sit there slamming it back to back like destro. Make it make sense. Can't even argue that making agony easier in AoE would make it do too much DPS, wither for HC Destro while being the significantly better and more consistent resource builder.
@@Paeddl Yeah, for the longest time I refused to play destro due to it being the boring spec (still is IMHO), and I hated the idea of the fractional shard system. But honestly after playing destro, give aff the fractional system for the love of God. Feels absolutely booty cheeks, especially in ST if RNGesus doesn't give you the shards. Feels like destro had every convenience/floe factor of their rotation, while aff has none of it. Its almost like playing a classic WoW spec vs playing a modern retail spec in terms of the clunky nature of aff. Destro's conveniences don't need nerfing because they're good, Aff needs to be modernised instead to bring it up to that level. Perfectly fine with demo keeping its non-decimal shard system because as a spec it works and flows very very well.
Wish they'd brought Shadowbolt closer to DS, it's so much nicer to play - I wish DS was purely an execute spell. Seeing SL buffed and STILL worse than AC in a simulation setting is also hilarious.
Make Oblivion cost 1 shard and able to move while channeling, would make it a fun ability. Of course then we'd never hear the end of it from Shadow Priests and Void Torrent
Great video! Still hoping they can remove Oblivion and just give Rapid Contagion back, instead, or keep Oblivion's name and just rework it into: "Causing all your Affliction Damage over Time effects to flare up in intensity, dealing 100% more damage 100% faster." It can still be a channel, and then they add the clause to it "Can be channeled while moving." With that it's done. You just get as many DoTs out as you can, then Oblivion and all DoTs tick 100% faster for 100% more damage for 3 seconds. They can shorten it's CD to 30 seconds, and then they could also make it so it uses all your current shards. For every shard you have when you use it, you get 1 second more plus an additional 20% damage and tick frequency added so you get way more damage out of bursting DoTs out. With all 5 shards you'd be able to channel it for 8 seconds, again while moving, and be able to make your DoTs tick 200% faster and deal 200% more damage over 8 seconds. They can also just make Oblivion Malefic Grasp, instead, and make it a passive to where: "Your Drain Soul empowers all DoTs on the target to tick 50% faster and deal 30% more damage." Another idea is just make Oblivion into "Your Drain Soul may now hit 2 additional targets with Corruption on them." If you have Shadow Bolt selected then you get 3 Shadow Bolts off at the same time, instead. So you get to channel Drain Soul into 3 targets affected by Corruption, or you get to hit 3 targets affected by Corruption with Shadow Bolt, instead. Maybe they will remodify Death's Embrace back to being a ramping execute again or buff the damage amp to 35% to make them an actual execute. Another idea: replace gambit and oblivion and rework them into: Malefic Grasp in place of Gambit to make Drain Soul channel or Shadow Bolt cast to empower DoTs for the duration of the channel and for SBolt it would give give 3 seconds of channeling Drain Soul into them with Malefic Grasp. In place of Oblivion you have the idea to make Drain Soul or Shadow Bolt castable while moving OR give them the multiple enemies hit thing, too, or both. Again, these are just all ideas to make Aff more DoT centered and what it used to be which was fantastic. It was very popular in Legion for a reason. Perpetual Unstability should just make UA do splash damage to all targets around it when you refresh UA, that or make it do splash damage to all targets affected by Corruption. Spriest has that with Psychic Link with Vampiric Touch. It feels very good , though I wish that also affected their DoTs, too, instead of just direct damage spells, or just their DoTs and nothing else would make me feel better with them. Creeping Death should be bumped up to 20% faster or 25%.
Affliction needs an aoe pet with an interrupt like demo's pet. that would be an increase in dmg too by 2%. Cant use Blueberry coz it doesn't have an interrupt.... just give us the felguard and boom problem sloved.
i feel like they going to fully destroy affliction with that changes , there is no other dps class out there which cant beat an affliction warlock in details in keys between 8-14
so what your saying is we didnt get buffed, unless u wanna add more dots to refresh on a hero talent that is not realy used? might as well say blizzard think they buffed something but they actualy didnt do anything.. fun when they are so clueless as devs that they think they buff us but it is literaly a nerf :P how are u this bad as at your job as a dev :P
mate i really would love to play Aff somtimes again but the last time i really liked it was in Legion... i know it was OP but it was a hell of fun and since the that Stream Ion mentioned No King rules forever Aff and we have to be honest is/was dead or at least not fun...
Affliction needs a complete overhaul. All our Dots should be instant cast and they should do way more damage upfront. Sync VT with Agony and get rid of the stupid targeting circle for Vile taint
this spec is forever dogshit in my book when adds can die almost immediately to all the CD's other classes/specs have, and does just fucking average when they dont die as fast and you need to spend ~8s to setup AOE like seriously what the fuck is the appeal on this spec
if we had a season where every dungeon was like algethar academy with huge pulls of non-important mobs and 1 priority target, and they fixed agony applications in AOE, affliction would be the best lock spec by far. it's just niche, it gets its time in the meta but it's hard to do that without either totally reworking the spec and stripping it of its niche, creating content which specifically caters to specs with this niche (spriest, dev evoker) or outright buffing it so that it's too strong to not be played. enhance is the same, it is pretty aoe capped so this season being lots of smaller pulls and it being SO strong are why it can be meta. personally i will be playing mop classic when it's out just to play a strong version of affliction
1) Buff UA bu 100% 2) Buff seed explode range by 200% or give back StS, becouse we cant spread corruption in raid on any boss with seed. Its just doest hit anything except the boss. And we dont have time to cast seed on adds, coz everything dies in 3 sec. Those 2 changes and aff become top 5 in raid.
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I don't understand why they don't just straight up buff UA by like 50%. It is so underwhelming (below agony...) and a buff to it would only buff the area where Aff is lacking (single target) without affecting any form of AoE.
All that for a 50K DPS increase?...Gonna need more to help Aff catch up.
Just delete aff
They clearly don’t want Aff to be good in ST. They have the numbers, they know by how much they are buffing classes.
@@slugfest513 They can't figure out how to make it good on single target without dominating council fights. Aff parses on Silken are huge.
@@slipknotpurity00 by buffing UA. Or FM. Or XG…
UA is a ST capped dot and does less damage than agony on ST. Thoughts?
They could even make a new ST talent node against Dark Harverst but that’s too much for blizzard to figure out
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Bring back Legion Aff, gimme Malefic Grasp
So … the lock spec that handles movement requirements the worst and thus looses the most relative to patchwerk sims is still the lock spec that does the worst dmg under perfect (aka no movement) conditions. Absolutely no reason to play Aff outside your one per tier council fight.
even on a council fight, destro with mayhem feels on par and is more fun to play
@@tellusrs7773It does. Just sayin it’s the only fight where you can play Affliction during prog without it being a questionable move.
They buff 3 talents we still won't use, feels bad man.
its funny cause if they just made a bunch of 2 node talents 1 node it wouldve made the dead talents more viable to use anyway
@@Rabieluh just the warlock designer ruining our class as usual
I'm sorry but which ones were they supposed to buff? The ones everyone uses? Dumbass take.
@@lukelpogromca2033 remove malefic rapture , bring back legion afd and we gucci.
Aff is way to stationnary.
It doesn't fit the thematic of the class, you are supposed to be mobile and take avantage of it period.
@@lukelpogromca2033 bring back legion aff and we gucci.
Aff is way to stationary, its doesn't fit the thematic of the spec.
You are supposed to be mobile and take advantage of it.
Make malefic rapture a dot who buff other dot on the target.
Bring back saw the seed spam.
And we gucci
Thank you for sims. Great job. I personally play Affli this season although bit pain sometimes :D. SH for raid mainly and Hellcaller for m+. I would be interested how you feel about hellcaller for m+ after this buff. I got feeling that this buff helps mainly hellcaller and the SL talent will be pain in ***, but could bring big value also.
They should just make necromancer class and make affliction spec from beginning
because affli have 0 connections with demons anyways and also we could see some tank spec with bone magic
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Yes sir
Starting to believe the speculation that AI is doing their buffs/nerfs nowadays.
Nah. AI would be more effective.
Not touching Aff anymore until they make Agony in AOE less annoying
Destro: Has a 30 second CD that uncapped applies their DoT, and a very powerful short channel that gigascales with haste which also extends that DoT. Also their soul shards work on a factional soulshard system with guaranteed resource generation per DoT tick. On large pulls you will always have so many shards that you can sit there spamming your (instant cast) spender.
Aff (The DoT spec): 30 second CD hard capped at 8 targets. No way of extending the DoTs outside of its 1 minute soul rot. Spec does not use fractional soulshard system, and thus does not have guaranteed resource generation per agony tick. 0 Other methods of generating shards outside of your 1 minute CD as SH Aff. Can genuinely run out of shards in a mass AoE scenario meaning you can't send your spender (your main damage source, also hard-casted btw) despite theoretically being in ideal conditions to sit there slamming it back to back like destro.
Make it make sense.
Can't even argue that making agony easier in AoE would make it do too much DPS, wither for HC Destro while being the significantly better and more consistent resource builder.
@@zwabTheRealOne Yeah shard generation is another problem, not to mention Vile taint costs a shard while cataclysm doesnt.
Feels like they hate Aff
@@Paeddl Yeah, for the longest time I refused to play destro due to it being the boring spec (still is IMHO), and I hated the idea of the fractional shard system.
But honestly after playing destro, give aff the fractional system for the love of God.
Feels absolutely booty cheeks, especially in ST if RNGesus doesn't give you the shards.
Feels like destro had every convenience/floe factor of their rotation, while aff has none of it.
Its almost like playing a classic WoW spec vs playing a modern retail spec in terms of the clunky nature of aff.
Destro's conveniences don't need nerfing because they're good, Aff needs to be modernised instead to bring it up to that level.
Perfectly fine with demo keeping its non-decimal shard system because as a spec it works and flows very very well.
Wish they'd brought Shadowbolt closer to DS, it's so much nicer to play - I wish DS was purely an execute spell.
Seeing SL buffed and STILL worse than AC in a simulation setting is also hilarious.
Make Oblivion cost 1 shard and able to move while channeling, would make it a fun ability. Of course then we'd never hear the end of it from Shadow Priests and Void Torrent
I say, just make it a giant, shadowy umrder ball. Kind of like those giant orbs in dawnbreaker.
@@censorthispuertorican That would be sweet
Great video! Still hoping they can remove Oblivion and just give Rapid Contagion back, instead, or keep Oblivion's name and just rework it into: "Causing all your Affliction Damage over Time effects to flare up in intensity, dealing 100% more damage 100% faster." It can still be a channel, and then they add the clause to it "Can be channeled while moving." With that it's done. You just get as many DoTs out as you can, then Oblivion and all DoTs tick 100% faster for 100% more damage for 3 seconds. They can shorten it's CD to 30 seconds, and then they could also make it so it uses all your current shards. For every shard you have when you use it, you get 1 second more plus an additional 20% damage and tick frequency added so you get way more damage out of bursting DoTs out. With all 5 shards you'd be able to channel it for 8 seconds, again while moving, and be able to make your DoTs tick 200% faster and deal 200% more damage over 8 seconds.
They can also just make Oblivion Malefic Grasp, instead, and make it a passive to where: "Your Drain Soul empowers all DoTs on the target to tick 50% faster and deal 30% more damage."
Another idea is just make Oblivion into "Your Drain Soul may now hit 2 additional targets with Corruption on them." If you have Shadow Bolt selected then you get 3 Shadow Bolts off at the same time, instead. So you get to channel Drain Soul into 3 targets affected by Corruption, or you get to hit 3 targets affected by Corruption with Shadow Bolt, instead.
Maybe they will remodify Death's Embrace back to being a ramping execute again or buff the damage amp to 35% to make them an actual execute.
Another idea: replace gambit and oblivion and rework them into:
Malefic Grasp in place of Gambit to make Drain Soul channel or Shadow Bolt cast to empower DoTs for the duration of the channel and for SBolt it would give give 3 seconds of channeling Drain Soul into them with Malefic Grasp. In place of Oblivion you have the idea to make Drain Soul or Shadow Bolt castable while moving OR give them the multiple enemies hit thing, too, or both.
Again, these are just all ideas to make Aff more DoT centered and what it used to be which was fantastic. It was very popular in Legion for a reason.
Perpetual Unstability should just make UA do splash damage to all targets around it when you refresh UA, that or make it do splash damage to all targets affected by Corruption. Spriest has that with Psychic Link with Vampiric Touch. It feels very good , though I wish that also affected their DoTs, too, instead of just direct damage spells, or just their DoTs and nothing else would make me feel better with them.
Creeping Death should be bumped up to 20% faster or 25%.
for 12k...dps when we are doing 1.4m~...ill take AC over SL anyday and save myself a GCD/headache.
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Affliction needs an aoe pet with an interrupt like demo's pet. that would be an increase in dmg too by 2%. Cant use Blueberry coz it doesn't have an interrupt.... just give us the felguard and boom problem sloved.
Maaaaaan i wish they would make cataclysm base line. Destruction feels like it needs it. And on a shorter cd
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i feel like they going to fully destroy affliction with that changes , there is no other dps class out there which cant beat an affliction warlock in details in keys between 8-14
Why would you play aff when hellcaller destro exists?
so what your saying is we didnt get buffed, unless u wanna add more dots to refresh on a hero talent that is not realy used? might as well say blizzard think they buffed something but they actualy didnt do anything.. fun when they are so clueless as devs that they think they buff us but it is literaly a nerf :P how are u this bad as at your job as a dev :P
mate i really would love to play Aff somtimes again but the last time i really liked it was in Legion... i know it was OP but it was a hell of fun and since the that Stream Ion mentioned No King rules forever Aff and we have to be honest is/was dead or at least not fun...
He meant this king will rule no more 🤣 he misread his queue card .
down with malefic rapture, PLEASE
Buffs? If these are buffs am an astronaut.
I've given up on Warlock completely, they cannot be trusted to balance us.
bro they need to remove all the damn 2 point nodes on affliction its insane that they havent addressed that
Hopefully 11.1
Affliction needs a complete overhaul. All our Dots should be instant cast and they should do way more damage upfront. Sync VT with Agony and get rid of the stupid targeting circle for Vile taint
use an @cursor macro ?
this spec is forever dogshit in my book when adds can die almost immediately to all the CD's other classes/specs have, and does just fucking average when they dont die as fast
and you need to spend ~8s to setup AOE like seriously what the fuck is the appeal on this spec
if we had a season where every dungeon was like algethar academy with huge pulls of non-important mobs and 1 priority target, and they fixed agony applications in AOE, affliction would be the best lock spec by far. it's just niche, it gets its time in the meta but it's hard to do that without either totally reworking the spec and stripping it of its niche, creating content which specifically caters to specs with this niche (spriest, dev evoker) or outright buffing it so that it's too strong to not be played. enhance is the same, it is pretty aoe capped so this season being lots of smaller pulls and it being SO strong are why it can be meta. personally i will be playing mop classic when it's out just to play a strong version of affliction
Soul shard generation needs less RNG!
Absolute clueless devs 😂😂
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yes sir
Dev gotta show some work to their boss and us clients before Christmas. anyway we are not gonna use Affliction in this tier Raid. GG
1) Buff UA bu 100%
2) Buff seed explode range by 200% or give back StS, becouse we cant spread corruption in raid on any boss with seed. Its just doest hit anything except the boss. And we dont have time to cast seed on adds, coz everything dies in 3 sec.
Those 2 changes and aff become top 5 in raid.
honestly this is fine aff stans get a little boost but it doesnt shift the hierarchy at all
MAGA-Make Affliction Great Again
Remove malefic rapture
classic buffs to irrelevant talents
lmao they still dont know hwo to balance aff