I've had a grand tourer (BMW 6 Series coupé, E63, LCI) for 13 years. I really like it, but the Aston Martin Vantage, the DB9 and the Maserati Granturismo are next level and timelessly gorgeous.
Why does any one care about looking rich. There not that happy. And yes a money pit. Why be something your not. I see plenty of luxury cars, Mercedes, and everything else in the city, and they live in dumps.
I’d agree with all but the Jaguar F Type. They have a good reliability rating, you can get them serviced for under £400 and as it shares many mechanical components with the very common v6 XF, repair work and replacement part costs aren’t that bad.
I'd love to see Most easily upgradeble cars from you or similar. e.g. the Mk2 scirocco gets a 30% bhp increase from a stage 1 with no mods. Mk2 TTS gets the same 0-60 as a TTRS, again with a stage 1 remap requiring no mods
Nice idea. Audi S5 with the 3 litre supercharged V6 a good amount of bhp gain with just a map and upgrading the pulley and belt on the supercharger. Would I'd say beat the NA RS5
Great list of great cars - well done. I will add to the other Jaguar XKR comments (current owner). I considered selling my XKR to upgrade to an F-Type but found the XKR roomier and more comfortable as compared with the F-Type cabin - more GT than sports car. Both are excellent and have beautiful lines, no question, but I decided to keep the XKR and am glad I did.
I got a memory in my camera roll of a DB7 a family member used to own 6 years ago this morning. They paid £13k for it back then. Remember it being a strange spec as it was red on red with steel grey alloys. Sounded pretty insane tho.
I’ve had a 2015 rs6 for the last 4 years and has been the most reliable car I’ve ever had,went stage 1 and had clutch slip afew times until I just re adapted the clutch’s with my obd2 reader and all is fine
Personal favorite GT, you are gonna hate me……my wife’s 2006 Lexus SC430 is just stunning. Owned since it was 3 years old it’s been bullet proof. It’s got 135K miles on it right now and still runs like new. We did update the audio system a couple of years ago with a touch screen unit with rear cam, satellite radio and gps plus we put all new speakers in and a new sub.
Not gonna hate you at all. I have the car that started it all for Lexus - the 4L V8 Toyota / Lexus Soarer - 30 years old, smooth as silk, engine and gearbox, spec'd up to blow Mercedes and BMW out of the water - fantastic Grand Tourer
Was tempted by one the other day but they are so ugly🤣 they don't have a good reputation for driving either but at least supposedly very reliable if you can get parts that is.
@@richsan4923 you should drive one. As for parts, my dealer can get pretty much everything OEM in a day or two. Really a solid touring car. Set the cruise control on 80 and enjoy the ride.
Has to be a convertible for me. I just sold my Z3M roadster & replaced it with a low mileage R231 SL500 in hyacinth red with cream leather. It corners really well. Nice & flat hardly any body roll. No scuttle shake. I think Chris Harris knows his cars well & he loved the AMG63. Mine's not the AMG SL63 admittedly. But not much less power or performance. It's more than enough. In fact I'm in awe of it. The fact it takes an extra 200 or 300 milliseconds to reach the legal speed limit compared to the AMG is immaterial. 0-60 in 4.5s effortlessly is fine with me. It doesn't even feel like it's trying, there's so much torque. Sounds like I have 4 V twin superbike engines under the bonnet :-) I'm loving it to bits. I considered an SLK55. But they're almost as expensive. A great little V8 roadster, but less car for the money. Plus I'm 6 foot tall so it felt a bit cramped
I am 17 now and Maserati GT with the 4.7 is my “attainable” dream car that I will try to buy in the future, it’s looks so magnificent and sounds even better. Its truly mind boggling that they are these cheap now.
Go for it!!! I'm 41 now and whilst time can pass quickly at times it's on your side as you are 17🙂 Find a way of earning and saving an extra £20 a day and by the time you are 21 you will have cheaper insurance and a nice pile of money for your car. Do it right and don't make rushed decisions and old cars are the best fun you can have.
Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato is my favourite tourer. However I don't have the £10 million they can cost. It was a racer for the road with a built in roll cage underneath it's quilted roof liner . The fantastically flowing curves inspired the iconic DB5 everyone knows today. It was faster, lighter and most probably more enjoyable that the DB5.
I am the original owner of a 2014 F Type with 15k miles. This car has had no issues. It’s been cheaper to operate than any other sports car I’ve ever owned.
Maserati GT Sport (second gen/as of 2012). Fantastic value for money: good in all weather (even light snow with winter tyres), practical (a proper 2+2), engine sound divine, excellent steering (if equipped with robotised manual gearbox), image (no one will key it and most will complement you on your choice), community/Maser owner club is great and full of enthusiasts and maintenance costs and reliability are reasonable (if you buy a properly locked after and serviced car). Downsides: consumption and infotainment (but you don't care about those things if you are considering pretty much any of the cars selected in this video).
I have a mint Aston Martin six-speed manual cabriolet, DB9. One identical to mine recently sold on Bring A Trailer ...California for the Canadian equivalent of $105, 000.00. They are very rare. What makes one appear even richer is to afford to pull up to the pump and actually fill it with gasoline. It's an impressive trick. Another impressive trick you can do with one is an oil change: $1,199.00. In other words, if you can't afford it, don't buy one....and definitely don't let the dude at the corner garage anywhere near it.
That make you look rich but most will put you in the poor house with parts/maintenance costs. Oddly enough most of the people I know that are quite wealthy drive around in either newer pickup trucks, Toyota Landcruisers, Jeeps or Camrys and of the not so wealthy that want to look like they are, drive around in old Mercedes, BMWs, and Audis that they can't afford the maintenance on.
I’m a 911 guy. Last change I was definitely going to have a V8 Vantage instead. Test drove several. Lovely thing. Great noise. Buying these cars is not the problem. Many can do that nowadays. What they often forget however is that when new, these cars were not cheap, so neither is the maintenance. £4k for a clutch sent me back to a service-every-2-years 911. Anyway, on this list the V8 is a sports car not a Grand Tourer, same for the Jag and the Beemer’s a sports saloon.😏
I like the Mercedes CLS a lot, the same body style as the Panamera with cheaper price and easier maintance. Those kind of body shaped cars are grow on me day by day, those shooting brakes :D
As is always the case with exotic cars .. it’s not the purchasing it’s the running costs … & potential mechanical failures.. there’s a reason why they are seemingly a bargain … outside of a Manufactures Warranty you’ll want extremely deep pockets!! 💰 💰
For over 20s XK8 or XKs Jag drop like a stone in value and the time to buy is over 5 years old with a good Jag Warrant i keep them to age 10 years old and then get rid I have one of the last convertables and i am tempted to keep this one they give a great GT experience and running costs are low compared with AM I dont like F TYpe as its more of a sports car
Favourite GT is a very tricky one since the lines of what a GT is are pretty blurred. The F Type is questionably more of a sports car, especially since it's less practical than my Cayman. The Panamera is probably a GT, but surely that makes the GS450h one too and that's a luxury saloon. The M6...well I only mentioned the GS450h because that's what I drove an M6 back to back with. I've said this before, but how disappointing the M6 was compared to the GS is what made me realise the "meh it's about as good as the GS overall" Porsche was actually incredible. The M6 might be a decent car, or it might be a pile of utter garbage, all I know is that comparing it to a GS450h or 981CS really doesn't do it any favours! Honestly though it's not that hard of a choice for me anyway, big fan of the current gen Conti GT and that is unquestionably a GT.
Current gen Conti is a beaut, there was a lovely one at LCCS! For me, rogue one, I’d have the McLaren GT just because I’m pretty sure no one else would have it (with good reason!)
my dad has a db9 and it is amazing it was only 30k for a FLAPPY PEDAL NATURALLY ASPIRATED V12 btw the astons are really good w vid Edit: it was actually 26k
Tell me not, in mournful numbers, the F-type is but an empty dream! For Jaguar's soul is not dead, it may just slumber and things go on and strongly wander to new horizons that soon will be seen.
Mercedes S Coupé S63 as Chris Harris said of his own “the best GT of them all..how have Mercedes managed to keep this a secret?” I have one…it’s the perfect GT. And I’ve a lot of great cars.
I own an Audi S7 for far, far, FAR less cost than the RS7. Only difference is that the turbo's on the RS7 are forged rather than cast & those can easily be swapped out if one should care to do so. I bought my 2016 S7 with fewer than 19K miles on it in 2021 for $50K
Yeah, you can pick up a grand tourer that cost well into 6 figures when new for £20-30k second hand. However, repair and servicing bills will be for a £150k car, not a £30k one. It will also be immensely complex and need specialist attention, which puts it out of reach of the DIY mechanic. There's a reason expensive grand tourers depreciate so much and that reason is ruinous running costs. Still think it's a good idea?
I dont know if its a good idea but theyre easier to get access to at least for a year than a 200k car, everything depends on owning this cars in your preferences, id prefer to spend 1500 on db9 insurance than to go on vacation
Interesting list... HOWEVER, the first time something goes wrong with one of these, you're headed to the poorhouse. Especially true for the Astons and the Maser, both of which (alas) have horrifyingly bad reliability. The Germans are better, at least in terms of availability of parts and competent technicians. But even regular maintenance on a high-end GT car can be alarmingly costly: you don't want to know the cost of a brake job on any of these, and that's something that is inevitable. These things are the reason cars like this depreciate so far and so rapidly - the actual ownerhsip expereience caan quickly and easily become a nightmare. And I know, as I spent more than 30 years in the top-shelf car business.
if you are month to month or not a mechanic please dont buy anything that "make' you look rich. One fail part can make you wish you never looked rich. If you are a mechanic, itis perfect time to buy these amazing cars. Most of the cost is labor. Parts arent that much.
The Aston Martin DB9 is the pinnacle of car design IMO, will probably still be an icon 100 years from now.
I agree . It has the best design . Flawless
Brilliant information on what we can afford to buy, how about some videos on the maintenance on these cars please
Got to be the 928 GTS for me, had the privilege of driving around in 928 S2 in my younger days. Great video JB 👌
I've had a grand tourer (BMW 6 Series coupé, E63, LCI) for 13 years. I really like it, but the Aston Martin Vantage, the DB9 and the Maserati Granturismo are next level and timelessly gorgeous.
Db9 is the correct answer. Get the newest model you can afford, with the best service history. Just being a V12 will be desirable in the future.
i looove grand tourers. I literally cannot choose what one of these cars I like the most 😂
Great job JB!
Cars that will make you look rich and make you stay poor 😂
Agree. They're all money pit that will drain you poor... There's a reason the used ones are that cheap
Why does any one care about looking rich. There not that happy. And yes a money pit. Why be something your not. I see plenty of luxury cars, Mercedes, and everything else in the city, and they live in dumps.
Thanks, I needed the dose of reality to snap my ass back.
I’d agree with all but the Jaguar F Type. They have a good reliability rating, you can get them serviced for under £400 and as it shares many mechanical components with the very common v6 XF, repair work and replacement part costs aren’t that bad.
@@anthonybariek997which is the price of the annual maintenance?
I'd love to see Most easily upgradeble cars from you or similar.
e.g. the Mk2 scirocco gets a 30% bhp increase from a stage 1 with no mods.
Mk2 TTS gets the same 0-60 as a TTRS, again with a stage 1 remap requiring no mods
Good shout
Nice idea. Audi S5 with the 3 litre supercharged V6 a good amount of bhp gain with just a map and upgrading the pulley and belt on the supercharger. Would I'd say beat the NA RS5
Think percentage wise 150bhp saab 9-3 is the best goes up to 210bhp with a remap ( 40% )
"Good luck with the payments!"🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@@barryhorn869 Why Barry Why
Pay cash…..only one payment.
Great list of great cars - well done. I will add to the other Jaguar XKR comments (current owner). I considered selling my XKR to upgrade to an F-Type but found the XKR roomier and more comfortable as compared with the F-Type cabin - more GT than sports car. Both are excellent and have beautiful lines, no question, but I decided to keep the XKR and am glad I did.
No man f type doesn't come close hold onto it
I got a memory in my camera roll of a DB7 a family member used to own 6 years ago this morning. They paid £13k for it back then. Remember it being a strange spec as it was red on red with steel grey alloys. Sounded pretty insane tho.
I’ve had a 2015 rs6 for the last 4 years and has been the most reliable car I’ve ever had,went stage 1 and had clutch slip afew times until I just re adapted the clutch’s with my obd2 reader and all is fine
Personal favorite GT, you are gonna hate me……my wife’s 2006 Lexus SC430 is just stunning. Owned since it was 3 years old it’s been bullet proof. It’s got 135K miles on it right now and still runs like new. We did update the audio system a couple of years ago with a touch screen unit with rear cam, satellite radio and gps plus we put all new speakers in and a new sub.
Not gonna hate you at all. I have the car that started it all for Lexus - the 4L V8 Toyota / Lexus Soarer - 30 years old, smooth as silk, engine and gearbox, spec'd up to blow Mercedes and BMW out of the water - fantastic Grand Tourer
Was tempted by one the other day but they are so ugly🤣 they don't have a good reputation for driving either but at least supposedly very reliable if you can get parts that is.
@@richsan4923 you should drive one. As for parts, my dealer can get pretty much everything OEM in a day or two. Really a solid touring car. Set the cruise control on 80 and enjoy the ride.
Has to be a convertible for me.
I just sold my Z3M roadster & replaced it with a low mileage R231 SL500 in hyacinth red with cream leather. It corners really well. Nice & flat hardly any body roll. No scuttle shake.
I think Chris Harris knows his cars well & he loved the AMG63. Mine's not the AMG SL63 admittedly. But not much less power or performance. It's more than enough. In fact I'm in awe of it.
The fact it takes an extra 200 or 300 milliseconds to reach the legal speed limit compared to the AMG is immaterial. 0-60 in 4.5s effortlessly is fine with me. It doesn't even feel like it's trying, there's so much torque. Sounds like I have 4 V twin superbike engines under the bonnet :-)
I'm loving it to bits. I considered an SLK55. But they're almost as expensive. A great little V8 roadster, but less car for the money. Plus I'm 6 foot tall so it felt a bit cramped
I am 17 now and Maserati GT with the 4.7 is my “attainable” dream car that I will try to buy in the future, it’s looks so magnificent and sounds even better. Its truly mind boggling that they are these cheap now.
Go for it!!! I'm 41 now and whilst time can pass quickly at times it's on your side as you are 17🙂
Find a way of earning and saving an extra £20 a day and by the time you are 21 you will have cheaper insurance and a nice pile of money for your car. Do it right and don't make rushed decisions and old cars are the best fun you can have.
Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato is my favourite tourer. However I don't have the £10 million they can cost. It was a racer for the road with a built in roll cage underneath it's quilted roof liner . The fantastically flowing curves inspired the iconic DB5 everyone knows today. It was faster, lighter and most probably more enjoyable that the DB5.
Mine too🥰
no love for the jag XK?
DB9....Perfection.
I am the original owner of a 2014 F Type with 15k miles. This car has had no issues. It’s been cheaper to operate than any other sports car I’ve ever owned.
Hi JB. Any chance of doing ULEZ cars under £5k, £3k etc? Sport and Luxury?
Maserati GT Sport (second gen/as of 2012). Fantastic value for money: good in all weather (even light snow with winter tyres), practical (a proper 2+2), engine sound divine, excellent steering (if equipped with robotised manual gearbox), image (no one will key it and most will complement you on your choice), community/Maser owner club is great and full of enthusiasts and maintenance costs and reliability are reasonable (if you buy a properly locked after and serviced car). Downsides: consumption and infotainment (but you don't care about those things if you are considering pretty much any of the cars selected in this video).
I've never really thought about M6's but was behind one yesterday and the noise it made was quite something.
I seriously was about to write down Audi rs7 and what a surprise? It’s number 1!! Nice choice , really sad Audi never build a real 2 door gt
Please see 2008-2012 S5 4.2 with a manual
Nice list! That Audi in the end of the video looks like a Bugatti Chiron for the "poor" drivers ^^
Love my F type which is supposidly a GT. 5ltr V8 and on a run over 30mpg. Can't complain!
I have a mint Aston Martin six-speed manual cabriolet, DB9. One identical to mine recently sold on Bring A Trailer ...California for the Canadian equivalent of $105, 000.00. They are very rare. What makes one appear even richer is to afford to pull up to the pump and actually fill it with gasoline. It's an impressive trick. Another impressive trick you can do with one is an oil change: $1,199.00. In other words, if you can't afford it, don't buy one....and definitely don't let the dude at the corner garage anywhere near it.
Good luck maintaining them
I drive a 2018 DB11. The most beautiful car I have ever seen.
I own my favorite, the Jaguar XKR. I get the same body lines as the Aston Martin and the advantage of more reasonable cost of replacement parts.
Great video
That make you look rich but most will put you in the poor house with parts/maintenance costs. Oddly enough most of the people I know that are quite wealthy drive around in either newer pickup trucks, Toyota Landcruisers, Jeeps or Camrys and of the not so wealthy that want to look like they are, drive around in old Mercedes, BMWs, and Audis that they can't afford the maintenance on.
Gran turismo is my favourite
My personal favourite GT is the Lamborghini Espada.
2009 DB9. Yes!
I’m a 911 guy. Last change I was definitely going to have a V8 Vantage instead. Test drove several. Lovely thing. Great noise. Buying these cars is not the problem. Many can do that nowadays. What they often forget however is that when new, these cars were not cheap, so neither is the maintenance. £4k for a clutch sent me back to a service-every-2-years 911. Anyway, on this list the V8 is a sports car not a Grand Tourer, same for the Jag and the Beemer’s a sports saloon.😏
My personal favorite modern grand tourer is the dbs, but when it comes to all time favorites i would have to pick the 1976alfa romeo spider
Aston Martin DBS (2007 - 2012) is my favourite tourer.
5ltr Jaguar XKR beats F-Type for me as it's more of a grand tourer (although I am biased owning one!)
4.7 V8 Vantage manual trans, bar none 👍👍👍
It would be nice if you said what year
I like the Mercedes CLS a lot, the same body style as the Panamera with cheaper price and easier maintance.
Those kind of body shaped cars are grow on me day by day, those shooting brakes :D
My fav is the Mazda 6 GTR 2021 Carbon Edition.
my favorite GT is the Lexus LC 500 convertible. :)
Kia Stinger Grand Tourer is my favorite
Where is the Jaguar XK?
As is always the case with exotic cars .. it’s not the purchasing it’s the running costs … & potential mechanical failures.. there’s a reason why they are seemingly a bargain … outside of a Manufactures Warranty you’ll want extremely deep pockets!! 💰 💰
For over 20s XK8 or XKs Jag drop like a stone in value and the time to buy is over 5 years old with a good Jag Warrant i keep them to age 10 years old and then get rid I have one of the last convertables and i am tempted to keep this one they give a great GT experience and running costs are low compared with AM I dont like F TYpe as its more of a sports car
Favourite GT is a very tricky one since the lines of what a GT is are pretty blurred. The F Type is questionably more of a sports car, especially since it's less practical than my Cayman. The Panamera is probably a GT, but surely that makes the GS450h one too and that's a luxury saloon.
The M6...well I only mentioned the GS450h because that's what I drove an M6 back to back with. I've said this before, but how disappointing the M6 was compared to the GS is what made me realise the "meh it's about as good as the GS overall" Porsche was actually incredible. The M6 might be a decent car, or it might be a pile of utter garbage, all I know is that comparing it to a GS450h or 981CS really doesn't do it any favours!
Honestly though it's not that hard of a choice for me anyway, big fan of the current gen Conti GT and that is unquestionably a GT.
Current gen Conti is a beaut, there was a lovely one at LCCS! For me, rogue one, I’d have the McLaren GT just because I’m pretty sure no one else would have it (with good reason!)
@@CarsWithJB McLaren GT is a car that makes no sense, but I do think it's a really good car anyway!
Has to be the F Type. Much more modern than most of the others.
my dad has a db9 and it is amazing it was only 30k for a FLAPPY PEDAL NATURALLY ASPIRATED V12
btw the astons are really good w vid
Edit: it was actually 26k
Fave GT? DB9 or a 612.
Because looking rich is important in life 😵💫
My favourite grand tourer would be an Audi RS7 or RS6 if it counts
Oh it's in the list
Also buy is one think, keep and maintain it, is another story
these cars may be cheap where you are but here in the states there still very expensive
XKR ??
Mercedes Benz CL 500, the smallest engine you can get is a V8 and it looks absolutely stunning
I guess if I'm buying a GT car, I need to drive it, not just see how it looks. But, that stated, I'd go for an Aston Martin, probably.
Bentley gt. Space, pace comfortably and quality interior
CL63 AMG
You can also find 2005-2009 Audi S8 for around 25-30k
Expensive cars that look expensive. Wow, dude invented hot water
Tell me not, in mournful numbers, the F-type is but an empty dream! For Jaguar's soul is not dead, it may just slumber and things go on and strongly wander to new horizons that soon will be seen.
Missed Lexus there LC is a cracking car with free warranty up to age 10 what a deal
2005-06 Jaguar XKR coupe with Recaro seats.
Mercedes S Coupé S63 as Chris Harris said of his own “the best GT of them all..how have Mercedes managed to keep this a secret?” I have one…it’s the perfect GT. And I’ve a lot of great cars.
I own an Audi S7 for far, far, FAR less cost than the RS7. Only difference is that the turbo's on the RS7 are forged rather than cast & those can easily be swapped out if one should care to do so. I bought my 2016 S7 with fewer than 19K miles on it in 2021 for $50K
How are the running costs?
The number 10. jaguar F type looked the richest to me.
'09 DB9 is just fine.
Problem with most older cars like this, they are mostly worth it if you repair them yourself
Everyone loves Grand tourer 😂 Not only you
Yeah, you can pick up a grand tourer that cost well into 6 figures when new for £20-30k second hand. However, repair and servicing bills will be for a £150k car, not a £30k one. It will also be immensely complex and need specialist attention, which puts it out of reach of the DIY mechanic. There's a reason expensive grand tourers depreciate so much and that reason is ruinous running costs. Still think it's a good idea?
I dont know if its a good idea but theyre easier to get access to at least for a year than a 200k car, everything depends on owning this cars in your preferences, id prefer to spend 1500 on db9 insurance than to go on vacation
The 812 gts is the best gran tourer with the Aston dbs coming in second
11:36 man, cars are so much cheaper in uk, in europe audi rs7 2014 is like 40 000 pounds cheapest, from 45 000 euros up...
You missed the jaguar XKR
10 Depreciated Gran Touring supercars with very high expense repair cost, the black holes of repair cost
E63 v10 brilliant
Jaguar xkr should hav been on the list
lmfao "make you look rich" until they "actually make you poor" when you start dealing with the maintenance costs
Do an easy to maintain car
totally inpractical
.....and spend money like rich people too - for the maintenance !
my 2010 xkr is 503 bhp and very quick
The e55 amg is the best old gt car v8 mean looking cars ever
DB9
Interesting list... HOWEVER, the first time something goes wrong with one of these, you're headed to the poorhouse. Especially true for the Astons and the Maser, both of which (alas) have horrifyingly bad reliability. The Germans are better, at least in terms of availability of parts and competent technicians. But even regular maintenance on a high-end GT car can be alarmingly costly: you don't want to know the cost of a brake job on any of these, and that's something that is inevitable. These things are the reason cars like this depreciate so far and so rapidly - the actual ownerhsip expereience caan quickly and easily become a nightmare. And I know, as I spent more than 30 years in the top-shelf car business.
I live in Germany and after watching this video I'm wondering how come that used German cars are cheaper in the UK than in Germany?
Bristol 411 series 4
if you are month to month or not a mechanic please dont buy anything that "make' you look rich. One fail part can make you wish you never looked rich. If you are a mechanic, itis perfect time to buy these amazing cars. Most of the cost is labor. Parts arent that much.
Maserati should be one through five out of ten.
Alternate title, "Unreliable money pits that will let real car people know that you are a poor trying way too hard to look rich."
CL600 V12
BMW 8 series👍
Ferrari 599 gtb #1 GT
Jaguar, Aston, Maserati, Bently are very exotice brands and audi rs7 is no 1..??
None of the cars from 1980 to present will be classics. If it has an ECU there will be no parts! Sad but true.
Hi how are you doing
shouldve did the cl63 not sl
S63 coupe
Definitely DB9