when it comes to computers you should base it on the actual hardware or by Operating systems. i.e. the Apple IIe, Atari 800, Commadore 64 is one group. UK has its own micro computers. Japan has its own exclusive computers like MSX, Sharp, NEC. DOS, WIN95, XP, is one group. then you get into "modern" depending on the GPU.
You could take the old DOS-PCs or even more specific machines into account, but when I'm talking about "PC gaming" I'm referring to "modern" PC operating systems based on the Windows NT or the Linux Kernel. It's basically a thing of the 2000s.
if you want to properly stroke the PC Master Race ego you gotta have the RGB lights in a full size tower don't forget that if you paid alot for it you gotta tell everybody. duh.
I'd rather play a wii u over the garbage sound and garbage graphics of those pre nes systems that everyone old goes gooey for, I'm sorry maybe it's because I was born in the late 80s, but the atari 2600 and the commodore 64 do nothing for me
Southside Gamer I agree. I was Born in 84 and anything Pre Nes I respect and find interesting but I can't buy it. I just don't find enjoyment in it at all. The only Atari Console I own is the Jaguar. Lol. But there are some Gems on that system and Playing it through S Video on my CRT looks really nice.
I bought a Wii U not too long ago for about £200 but it had EVERY game I was interested in for the system and I must say it was a good system. The Game Pad was a mis-marketed aspect of the console. After a short time playing with it I had a "Ahhh I get it now"
StuRoRo Yeah, I have been really irritated Nintendo didn't release the new features on the Switch Ports as download or even DLC for the Wii U versions of the game.
Chase Redd with only 10 million sold worldwide and its library of games being quite expensive, i would guess that there just hasn't been enough gamers picking the machine up on the used market to push it up the list, i was happy to see it up as high as it was, it does deserve to be higher imo but like i said.....
Well there WERE other games than Halo and Sega (while the amount of Sega titles alone makes for a quite different system than the PS2). Ninja Gaiden, Riddick, Knights of the old Republic, Jade Empire, Chrimson Skies 2, Yager... combined with more sophisticated Sega exclusives like Otogi 1&2 or Panzer Dragoon Orta, it felt very different to the PS2, at least to me. As for the Dreamcast - yes, many games where ported later on, but thats the point: They were just ports, and there was just one home, and the fact that many of that ports did great on other systems just shows that software alone isn't enough to sell hardware. Plus, while the DC had a very short lifespan, unlike other failed systems it managed to have a widespread library with at least two or three quality titles in every major genre: 3D platformer? Sonic Adventure 1&2, Rayman 2 Racing? Metropolis Street Racer, 24H Le Mans, F355 Challenge Lightgun Shooter? House of the Dead 2, Confidental Mission JRPG? Skies of Arcadia, Grandia 2 Western Style RPG? Record of Lodoss War, Silver 3D Fighter? Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive 2, Project Justice Rival Schools 2 2D Fighter? Marvel VS Capcom, Guilty Gear X, Street Fighter 3, Capcom VS SNK 1&2, King of Fighters, Garou Mark of the Wolfes Adventure? Shenmue 1&2, Headhunter, The Nomad Soul 3D - Shooter? Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, MDK2 Sports? Virtua Tennis 1&2, the whole 2K(!) - series Trendsports? Jet Set Radio, Tony Wawk 1&2 Puzzle? Chu Chu Rocket, Bomberman Horror? Resident Evil 2, 3 and Code Veronica, Alone in the Dark: the new Nightmare Rythm games? Samba de Amigo, Space Channel 5 Part 1&2 2D Shooter? Ikaruga, Zero Gunner 2, Border Down, Sturmwind, Bangai O...........(that one would fill a book alone) Also complete unique games like REZ, Seaman (wish they had THAT ported) So - yes, a lot of these franchises shifted to other systems and many or even most were successfull there, but thats just a testament to how much the small but quality filled library was overlooked back then, ignoring that essentially it had good titles for every taste - in about 2 years! Just for comparison - what had the PS3 after two years? While I definetly wouldn't say ist number one, I would totally agree with its place on the List.
If you are talking about old MS-DOS PCs and their set of very good exclusive games, I would argue it deserves that position as those games are often forgotten.
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My favorite home consoles: 1. Sega Genesis/Sega Mega Drive. 2. Sony PS2. 3. Sony PS3. And 4. Nintendo Wii U. And my favorite handheld console of all time: Game Boy Advance SP (AGS-101).
You're not the only one that had a Super Nintendo back in the early 90s I had one as well with super Mario allstars...there was a lad a year or so younger than me that had a Sega mega drive though that lived up the road from me so I also got my sonic in as well back then....my first console was a master system in about 92 I think although I did have a commodore 64 and a z x spectrum at some point aswel in the early 90's
SNES and Mega Drive were pretty much even in my school, here in the midlands. I was known as a bit of an Amiga and SNES fanboy, I remember my friend made fun of me for owning a Mega Drive, until he played Sonic 2 and agreed that It was just as much fun as Mario World. Good channel mate. Keep up the good work! I still disagree with you on the NES. I was 10 years old in 1990, Captain N the game master was my Saturday morning cartoon of choice, and I was so jealous of my mates NES!
The cool thing about the SNES Mini is that you can mod it to house virtually the entire SNES library. I did that with mine and now can play Super Mario All Stars with little to no effort.
Keep in mind that Retro Gamer Magazine has had an influx of international readers the last of couple of years, so the audience has become much more diverse. This also explains why Nintendo scores better than one might expect in this poll, considering British gaming history. This became especially evident in the top 150 games in the 150th issue, where Nintendo had a much bigger presence than in the top 100 from four years earlier.
The Super Nintendo is my favourite console of all time, so it's nice to see it get top spot. Being a UK list though, I am pretty shocked that the neither the PS1 or Mega Drive got number 1 spot though, those systems were ridiculously popular here back in the day (and a lot more people owned Mega Drives than Super Nintendos when I was a kid!).
Happy to see the Dreamcast high up on the list, higher than i expected even though it is my favorite console alongside the Saturn, not that surprised the snes took top spot, once thinking about the demographic of the magazine in question, it was going to be 1 of the 2 16 bits consoles! i had the Mega Drive and the Snes and at the time they were both equal in my eyes but now the Mega Drive for me is the superior of the 2 based on the fact my Mega Drive library is now more than double the size of my Snes, the MD clearly has far more titles that suit my likes! WTF is PC doing on there though? its ridiculous, the Sega game gear or 3DO lost out on a top 30 spot because of the PC? Criminal! Talking of criminal, the N64, come off it! 20th should be as high in the list as it could possibly get!
I want try to read the minds of the people that voted the Dreamcast so high, but for me, I think it's a great retro system because so many of it's games were arcade ports. Not that I'm saying arcade ports are inherently superior, but when I play old games, I prefer titles that are designed for short play time, rather than something that would take days or weeks to play a single game.
I am afraid the Master System wasn't the first system to be released in both regions Japan and Europe. It is believed that even the Magnavox Odyssey (1972) was released in all three regions. If not that, one of the 1977 Pong console clones is likely to be. Even if not, then the Sega SC-3000 (1983) was for sure released in Europe and Japan, so was the Atari 2600 (1983 in Japan)
Always pleased to see Super Nintendo beat Mega Drive ;-) Ace video It's weird how you always infer the NES and SNES weren't popular in the UK; when I was a kid it was 50:50 in ownership terms. Far more people had a NES vs Master System without a doubt.
My personal top ten: 10. Sony Playstation 2 9. Sega Saturn 8. Nintendo Gamecube 7. NEC PC Engine 6. Sega Dreamcast 5. Sony Playstation 4. Neo Geo 3. Nintendo Entertainment System 2. Sega Mega Drive 1. Super Nintendo Entertainment System
Mixed bag of a list. All my favourites are on there: Amiga 500, Dreamcast, Master System, N64. I disagree with NES and PC. I hadn’t heard of NES until 1998 when I read a Zelda retrospective
Well I agree with your stance 100% on the N64, MD and a few others. But I don't understand your perspective on the OG Xbox and the 6th gen as a whole which was the greatest gen for 3d gaming imo. So you'd rather put more focus into the color palette of the games rather than their gameplay? Certainty you can see how ridiculous that is lol? Despite that, great vid.
I think the original DS got a higher spot than the 3DS due to GBA backwards compatibility. It was also easy to mod with a flash cart to add GB/GBC, NES, SMS, and 2600 games via emulation at full speed as well as mixed results with SNES and Genesis/Megadrive game emulation
Wbowen05 thats not a valid reason to vote for it though is it!? Its about the system and its library of games, peripherals etc! Besides you can mod psp, xbox, Wii etc to do the same so its not as if its the only machine capable of such things, did they get hoisted up the because of this too?
Your list surprises me sir! It's important to remember that no Amiga before the Amiga 4000/1200 models offer anything new than the Summer 1985 Amiga (AKA Amiga 1000) so the technology is released just a couple of years after the C64/Speccy 128k (ie the one with sound chip) or CPC464. Sadly few technically competent coders ever emerged and only a handful of talented musicians and pixel artists. I still remember being in awe of my shiny Amiga 1000 running Marble Madness almost arcade perfect in 1986 though.
I had a cousin and an uncle on different sides of my family that each had a Turbografx 16 so I got to play on once a month at least back in it's day. Bonk's Adventure, Military Madness, Blazing Lasers, Splatterhouse, Bloody Wolf, Alien Crush. I got to play all that stuff despite my parents not buying one for me (they got me a Sega Genesis instead, not that I'm complaining about that). So I have a soft spot for the P.C. Engine/Turbografx and wish it was higher on the list because it's an amazing system.
I've gotta disagree with your DS assessment. 3DS has first party titles and JRPG's mostly with some good eshop games, but the DS has a large and deep library across all genres much like the PS 1 & 2, MegaDrive, and 360.
It's very interesting to realise how many systems there is out there. I don't have any strong feeling about the list as the snes and megadrive are indeed for the best consoles of all time for me. But I really enjoy this video because it's very informative, it would be good to do a video about the top 30 games of all times. I would say golden eye N64, and DuckTales would easily be on the list. Great content and thank you for sharing.
As an American, it's interesting to see other regions lists. The NES here would be much higher than 10. I love seeing different opinions. That is one of the reasons I read this magazine myself
When ever I see a list "voted on by readers/public" it's not worth getting worked up over where things place. Most people will only vote for systems they've owned themselves. So systems that didn't sell well, no matter how good they were on there own merits, have no chance of ranking well. For example, the Atari Lynx seemed like a technological miracle when it released and had a game library that, while rather small, was really quite good and pulled off some arcade ports better than I would have thought possible. Same goes for the Turbo GrafX.
Joel ressler a small library of games is surely also taken into consideration anyway so that would also hinder it in itself! The thing with gaming consoles is price and marketing can contribute massively to how well a console sells! Get it wrong in the beginning and it doesn't matter how good your machine is! The Sega Saturn is a classic example of this!
I reckon the snes will forever remain my favourite console. So many great games. I had one until a few years ago when I had to sell it because I was low on money to pay rent to my landlord. It was heartbreaking having to let it go 😢
For EU/UK gaming scene the milestones were 2600, C64/ZX/CPC route. ST/Amiga route, mostly Megadrive due to pi$$ poor US Gold/Activision/Ocean arcade conversions of horrible quality we didn't mind 50 quid for OutRun/Afterburner etc) or SNES for Ghouls n Ghosts/SF2, straight onto PS1/Saturn and on. The PC really didn't sell to home users here until Acorn gave up and Atari and Commodore were gone though. Luckily the frustration of DOS gaming incompatibility with your config was missed out by most and Windows was very crash happy before XP in 2002
The Nes was popular here in the UK when I was growing up in the 90s. Everyone I knew was retro gaming before it became a thing. Actually the NES still had the odd release coming out for it while the Snes was out for a very long period much like the Master System being a budget version of the Megadrive at the time. I even still have a catalog where Nintendo was releasing games for all three platforms. Not trying to be fanboy but I genuinely remember the Nes being popular here in the UK. Also I remember the micro computers being kind of old hat during the prime of the Nes and Master System in the UK Also the Dreamcast is held in high regard because despite games being ported to other platforms. The games were designed with the Dreamcast as the lead platform and played best on the console. Especially games like Marvel vs Capcom 2 that were one for one like the Arcade because the Dreamcast version is the Arcade Plus at the time it came out nothing came close to it in terms of graphics. All of the latest games made everything that was on the older platforms like Ps1 and N64 look old. Take Rayman 2, Soul Reaver and Marvel Vs Capcom 1 as examples. Also the Super Nintendo was wildly popular here in the West Midlands everyone I knew had Snes and Sega was owned by less people but quite similar in stance to the Snes. Street Fighter 2 was the game of my childhood among me and my friends and that game defined purchases of consoles. I remember hiring an American copy of Super Street fighter 2 and everyone came around to play it because everyone wanted to know what the Snes version or Super Street Fighter was like due to the disappointingly less than Arcade perfect Megadrive version. Although in hindsight I quite like that version too especially with the hacks to improve the colour pallette and speech audio
In UK Mega Drive was certainly ahead of SNES and tbh the UK library of SNES games at the time was missing some of the greatest titles. Mega Drive was the better purchase back in the day and it had a better library.
lol running out of ideas to troll the youtube audience? MY LIST 1. Playstation 3 - but only if you got the one with all of the backward compatibility 2. Super Nintendo - cause USA USA USA USA 3. Gamecube - dont forget to put the gameboy player on the bottom 4. Xbox360 - cause xbox live rules 5. Dreamcast - it only lived 2 years but gosh darn it had arcade perfect conversions of street fighter
don't you know the myth of how Nintendo saved the gaming industry in the West. technically it started with the NES being sold as a toy but SNES set the standard of the Nintendo Seal of Quality.
OLE SammyOLE Nintendo did not save the gaming industry in the west! Oh just noticed you said it was a myth! Thats cool then, i thought it was something you believed was true!
That music that's playing during the Atari Lynx segment sounds like some of the music from Checkered Flag on the Atari Jaguar. Is that accurate or is it my imagination?
The first is the NEOGEO, all users of snes and genesis of the time would have sold their soul to have one. And you know it. Their game library is a different story.
I would have put the Mega Drive over the SNES, but overall the list seems fairly reasonable, but things like Commodore I’ve very little experience with. I might have put the 2600 higher I suppose.
I'm suprised not to see the Gameboy Colour (I have to spell it correctly even if Nintendo can't) make the list. I loved mine and thought the library of games was very underrated, though admittedly a backlit screen would have helped its cause.
Can only think that the SNES came in #1 based on the fact that the SNES Classic was released so recently released with full speed, full screen games. As this is a UK poll you have to factor in that the SNES in PAL regions was a far from brilliant gaming experience in period, PAL conversions of SNES titles were typically very poorly done, I don't know if this was down to the system it's self (in terms of coding) or just lazy ports from developers, the result was games that were noticably slower than their NTSC counterparts with big borders at the top and bottom of the screen and a "squashed" look to the graphics. Sega Megadrive games from the same period suffered much less from this, which makes me think it may have been that converting games on the SNES was in someway more difficult. It took until 1999 and the release of the Sega Dreamcast for this issue to be resolved as you could run games in 60Hz mode provided you had a compatible TV.
They only considered the game system's own games when making the list no backward compatibility that's why the DS is above the 3ds. Also the DS has a bigger library of games than the 3ds, it has what many would consider the best Pokemon games ( Heartgold/Soulsilver) plus many games that appeal to retro gamers such as Megaman Zero collection, Jump ultimate stars, the Castlevania games, and many more 2D titles
I was referencing this video on twitch (joesteinman) and PC winning a spot. Just with Microsoft and MS DOS Windows 95-xp-7-10 whatever these are each a selection for the top 30 consoles. For me Windows 10 is the best console of all time because I can play almost every game ever made and then MS DOS!
Strange, you say you loved the N64 in its time but in retrospective it is a bit shyte (agree there), yet you don't see that it is tthis same dynamic in reverse that places the Dreamcast this high.
I think the correct term for "PC" in this case would be "windows" Because windows is the platform that runs the majority of PC games. Arguably, "Steam" could be counted as its own platform, even though it runs on Windows.
i know it's a personnal Top 30 but i'can't understand how the Dreamcast can be over the Saturn with it's tiny library and very little exclusives titles ....
The Sega GENESIS would never make my top five. Great system, just not worthy of top five. And yes, 3DS should be FAR higher. Dreamcast would be higher on my list. PC isn't a games console. Sega CD would be on my list just for Snatcher. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head.
I'll agree that an entry as vague as 'PC' should not be in a list like this. The platform can literally play most of the games on the list already from a modern perspective, hell it can even play Wii U games! From a retro perspective, the C64, Amiga, Amstrad and IBM PC also qualify as 'PCs'. Very vague indeed.
I quite like the PC Engine. I don't own one but I've played quite a few of its games and it contains some of the best NES ports (better than the NES versions) and plenty of excellent exclusives.
Honestly, I tend to just go through all the roms and pick out whatever sounds interesting so I'm probably not the best to ask, but the Bonk games were the console's flagship Mario equivalent so I'd go with them and I guess the Adventure Island and Wonder Boy games which generally had different names to the Sega versions so you'll have to look that stuff up. My personal pick for a good game is Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu. It's a pretty good side scroller.
Sweet, I'll check them out this weekend thanks. Yeah I've heard of Bonk, one of the console mascots pretty much right? I like picking roms at random too :-) Though I played a Die Hard for a video based on all games related to the source material
This article annoyed me a little, if anything it was the quotes people gave. One of the quotes for the Super Nintendo was "its the pinnacle of affordable platform gaming" (I'm paraphrasing because I can't find my copy). How could it be the "pinnacle of affordable platform gaming". Super Nintendo games was consistently £5-£10 more expensive than the Mega Drive equivalent game. Surely with that criteria the 8bit computers are the pinnacle of platform gaming with the selection of thousands of games going for just a couple of quid.
Nice list. I should consider to read retro gaming magazine. But the PC in a retro top 30 list?? Sure, in comparison to consoles, PC is superior in graphics. I use my PC for producing music. Internet browsing and some other useful tasks. The games I play on PC are running on emulators from older consoles. Have a handful games from this era, but for games that not run on emulation, I prefer a dedicated game console, like my PlayStation 4 and Nintendo Switch.
In no particular order...my personal list. 1. Neo Geo AES 2. NEO GEO Pocket Color 3. PC Engine/Turbo Grafx 16 4. Sega Master System 5. Sega Genesis 6. Sega Game Gear 7. Sega CD 8. Sega Saturn 9. Sega Dreamcast 10. Sony PS1 11. PS2 12. PS3 13. PS4 14. NES/Famicom 15. SNES/Super Famicom 16. N64 17. Gamecube 18. Wii 19. Wii U 20. Switch 21. Gameboy 22. Gameboy Color 23. GBA 24. DS 25. 3DS 26. Xbox 27. Xbox 360 28. Xbox One 29. PSP 30. PS Vita 31. 3DO 32. Sega Nomad
Over here in the states, I actually had my snes first. Friend's mom sold it to us in late 91, I believe to punish said friend. No idea what he did. Bought Zelda at release. By summer 92, I had a Genesis, and repeatedly bought games for the Sega over the Nintendo. Yes, I got Final Fight, Street Fighter 2, and all the RPGs, but EVERYTHING else was on Sega. As a collector with well over 1200 games, I don't own a SNES or an N64. No reason to. Got Zelda on gba, Squaresoft games on ps1, and a better version of final fight on the Sega cd! I'd rather buy Saturn games with that $$!
Enterprize 1701 oh, I meant between the snes and genesis. The VCS was my first as well, xmas 1983. I was 4, and my parents gave me theirs and bought me ET. I actually loved that game!
A PC is technically a microcomputer designed primarily for one person at a time. Technically, by this definition most consoles are designed for more than one person but that is kind of a stretch. I'd more say any computer with rewritable software, though even still that would still include the PS4, PS3, Xbox One, Xbox 360, Wii U, and even 3DS. I assume they refer to devices running Windows, MacOs, or Linux but just writing PC is rather weak. Even still if they mean that this should immediately become the number 1 as they can run all of these games with any controller and many for free. This one doesn't make sense.
A very weird list. The PC for example should either be on Nr.1 per default or not on the list at all.
when it comes to computers you should base it on the actual hardware or by Operating systems. i.e. the Apple IIe, Atari 800, Commadore 64 is one group. UK has its own micro computers. Japan has its own exclusive computers like MSX, Sharp, NEC. DOS, WIN95, XP, is one group. then you get into "modern" depending on the GPU.
You could take the old DOS-PCs or even more specific machines into account, but when I'm talking about "PC gaming" I'm referring to "modern" PC operating systems based on the Windows NT or the Linux Kernel. It's basically a thing of the 2000s.
it should be AMD vs Nvidia when discussing PC? full size tower pcs not laptops should only be considered.
You have a point there!
if you want to properly stroke the PC Master Race ego you gotta have the RGB lights in a full size tower don't forget that if you paid alot for it you gotta tell everybody. duh.
Even though the Wii U wasn't commercially succesful, I feel it should have made this list somewhere
I'd rather play a wii u over the garbage sound and garbage graphics of those pre nes systems that everyone old goes gooey for, I'm sorry maybe it's because I was born in the late 80s, but the atari 2600 and the commodore 64 do nothing for me
Southside Gamer I agree. I was Born in 84 and anything Pre Nes I respect and find interesting but I can't buy it. I just don't find enjoyment in it at all. The only Atari Console I own is the Jaguar. Lol. But there are some Gems on that system and Playing it through S Video on my CRT looks really nice.
I bought a Wii U not too long ago for about £200 but it had EVERY game I was interested in for the system and I must say it was a good system. The Game Pad was a mis-marketed aspect of the console. After a short time playing with it I had a "Ahhh I get it now"
StuRoRo Yeah, I have been really irritated Nintendo didn't release the new features on the Switch Ports as download or even DLC for the Wii U versions of the game.
Agree, its definately better than the Lynx and the GameCube imo
I think the Sega Saturn should've been at least top 10
Chase Redd Second the motion
Chase Redd with only 10 million sold worldwide and its library of games being quite expensive, i would guess that there just hasn't been enough gamers picking the machine up on the used market to push it up the list, i was happy to see it up as high as it was, it does deserve to be higher imo but like i said.....
you are absolutely right ! it should be first actually
Well there WERE other games than Halo and Sega (while the amount of Sega titles alone makes for a quite different system than the PS2). Ninja Gaiden, Riddick, Knights of the old Republic, Jade Empire, Chrimson Skies 2, Yager... combined with more sophisticated Sega exclusives like Otogi 1&2 or Panzer Dragoon Orta, it felt very different to the PS2, at least to me.
As for the Dreamcast - yes, many games where ported later on, but thats the point: They were just ports, and there was just one home, and the fact that many of that ports did great on other systems just shows that software alone isn't enough to sell hardware. Plus, while the DC had a very short lifespan, unlike other failed systems it managed to have a widespread library with at least two or three quality titles in every major genre:
3D platformer? Sonic Adventure 1&2, Rayman 2
Racing? Metropolis Street Racer, 24H Le Mans, F355 Challenge
Lightgun Shooter? House of the Dead 2, Confidental Mission
JRPG? Skies of Arcadia, Grandia 2
Western Style RPG? Record of Lodoss War, Silver
3D Fighter? Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive 2, Project Justice Rival Schools 2
2D Fighter? Marvel VS Capcom, Guilty Gear X, Street Fighter 3, Capcom VS SNK 1&2, King of Fighters, Garou Mark of the Wolfes
Adventure? Shenmue 1&2, Headhunter, The Nomad Soul
3D - Shooter? Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, MDK2
Sports? Virtua Tennis 1&2, the whole 2K(!) - series
Trendsports? Jet Set Radio, Tony Wawk 1&2
Puzzle? Chu Chu Rocket, Bomberman
Horror? Resident Evil 2, 3 and Code Veronica, Alone in the Dark: the new Nightmare
Rythm games? Samba de Amigo, Space Channel 5 Part 1&2
2D Shooter? Ikaruga, Zero Gunner 2, Border Down, Sturmwind, Bangai O...........(that one would fill a book alone)
Also complete unique games like REZ, Seaman (wish they had THAT ported)
So - yes, a lot of these franchises shifted to other systems and many or even most were successfull there, but thats just a testament to how much the small but quality filled library was overlooked back then, ignoring that essentially it had good titles for every taste - in about 2 years! Just for comparison - what had the PS3 after two years? While I definetly wouldn't say ist number one, I would totally agree with its place on the List.
I Still got my Super Nintendo from 1993 and I got the Sega Megadrive they be deserve be joint no.1
Aaaargh they be!
I agree! The 2 best consoles ever made in my opinion
If you are talking about old MS-DOS PCs and their set of very good exclusive games, I would argue it deserves that position as those games are often forgotten.
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My favorite home consoles:
1. Sega Genesis/Sega Mega Drive.
2. Sony PS2.
3. Sony PS3.
And 4. Nintendo Wii U.
And my favorite handheld console of all time:
Game Boy Advance SP (AGS-101).
Dustin Nunn Yes, I agree. My favourite GBA is the gameboy micro but that's because I'm a baby.
You're not the only one that had a Super Nintendo back in the early 90s I had one as well with super Mario allstars...there was a lad a year or so younger than me that had a Sega mega drive though that lived up the road from me so I also got my sonic in as well back then....my first console was a master system in about 92 I think although I did have a commodore 64 and a z x spectrum at some point aswel in the early 90's
Otto Schneider My brother had a nes
SNES and Mega Drive were pretty much even in my school, here in the midlands. I was known as a bit of an Amiga and SNES fanboy, I remember my friend made fun of me for owning a Mega Drive, until he played Sonic 2 and agreed that It was just as much fun as Mario World. Good channel mate. Keep up the good work! I still disagree with you on the NES. I was 10 years old in 1990, Captain N the game master was my Saturday morning cartoon of choice, and I was so jealous of my mates NES!
The cool thing about the SNES Mini is that you can mod it to house virtually the entire SNES library. I did that with mine and now can play Super Mario All Stars with little to no effort.
I would've wrongly guessed this top 5:
1.) Genesis
2.) SNES
3.) PS2
4.) PS1
5.) NES
Keep in mind that Retro Gamer Magazine has had an influx of international readers the last of couple of years, so the audience has become much more diverse. This also explains why Nintendo scores better than one might expect in this poll, considering British gaming history. This became especially evident in the top 150 games in the 150th issue, where Nintendo had a much bigger presence than in the top 100 from four years earlier.
The Super Nintendo is my favourite console of all time, so it's nice to see it get top spot. Being a UK list though, I am pretty shocked that the neither the PS1 or Mega Drive got number 1 spot though, those systems were ridiculously popular here back in the day (and a lot more people owned Mega Drives than Super Nintendos when I was a kid!).
Happy to see the Dreamcast high up on the list, higher than i expected even though it is my favorite console alongside the Saturn, not that surprised the snes took top spot, once thinking about the demographic of the magazine in question, it was going to be 1 of the 2 16 bits consoles! i had the Mega Drive and the Snes and at the time they were both equal in my eyes but now the Mega Drive for me is the superior of the 2 based on the fact my Mega Drive library is now more than double the size of my Snes, the MD clearly has far more titles that suit my likes!
WTF is PC doing on there though? its ridiculous, the Sega game gear or 3DO lost out on a top 30 spot because of the PC? Criminal! Talking of criminal, the N64, come off it! 20th should be as high in the list as it could possibly get!
I want try to read the minds of the people that voted the Dreamcast so high, but for me, I think it's a great retro system because so many of it's games were arcade ports. Not that I'm saying arcade ports are inherently superior, but when I play old games, I prefer titles that are designed for short play time, rather than something that would take days or weeks to play a single game.
I am afraid the Master System wasn't the first system to be released in both regions Japan and Europe. It is believed that even the Magnavox Odyssey (1972) was released in all three regions. If not that, one of the 1977 Pong console clones is likely to be. Even if not, then the Sega SC-3000 (1983) was for sure released in Europe and Japan, so was the Atari 2600 (1983 in Japan)
+Boojakascha I said it was the first Sega console to do so. The only pal region the SC 3000 made it to was Australia
+Top Hat Gaming Man
I am afraid it was also released in France, Italy and Finnland.
That Hyrule Field music playing at the beginning of the video made me nostalgia all over myself.
Always pleased to see Super Nintendo beat Mega Drive ;-) Ace video
It's weird how you always infer the NES and SNES weren't popular in the UK; when I was a kid it was 50:50 in ownership terms. Far more people had a NES vs Master System without a doubt.
My personal top ten:
10. Sony Playstation 2
9. Sega Saturn
8. Nintendo Gamecube
7. NEC PC Engine
6. Sega Dreamcast
5. Sony Playstation
4. Neo Geo
3. Nintendo Entertainment System
2. Sega Mega Drive
1. Super Nintendo Entertainment System
Mixed bag of a list. All my favourites are on there: Amiga 500, Dreamcast, Master System, N64. I disagree with NES and PC. I hadn’t heard of NES until 1998 when I read a Zelda retrospective
Well I agree with your stance 100% on the N64, MD and a few others. But I don't understand your perspective on the OG Xbox and the 6th gen as a whole which was the greatest gen for 3d gaming imo. So you'd rather put more focus into the color palette of the games rather than their gameplay? Certainty you can see how ridiculous that is lol? Despite that, great vid.
Retro Soul Yeah He’s been saying og Xbox ruined console gaming with “blocky, gray, 3D Games”. Because PS2 was definitely not going in that direction.
I think the original DS got a higher spot than the 3DS due to GBA backwards compatibility. It was also easy to mod with a flash cart to add GB/GBC, NES, SMS, and 2600 games via emulation at full speed as well as mixed results with SNES and Genesis/Megadrive game emulation
Wbowen05 thats not a valid reason to vote for it though is it!? Its about the system and its library of games, peripherals etc! Besides you can mod psp, xbox, Wii etc to do the same so its not as if its the only machine capable of such things, did they get hoisted up the because of this too?
Your list surprises me sir! It's important to remember that no Amiga before the Amiga 4000/1200 models offer anything new than the Summer 1985 Amiga (AKA Amiga 1000) so the technology is released just a couple of years after the C64/Speccy 128k (ie the one with sound chip) or CPC464. Sadly few technically competent coders ever emerged and only a handful of talented musicians and pixel artists. I still remember being in awe of my shiny Amiga 1000 running Marble Madness almost arcade perfect in 1986 though.
No Colecovision? Pah! Anyway great video sir!
17:26 platypus theme song :)
I feel old now....
I had a cousin and an uncle on different sides of my family that each had a Turbografx 16 so I got to play on once a month at least back in it's day. Bonk's Adventure, Military Madness, Blazing Lasers, Splatterhouse, Bloody Wolf, Alien Crush. I got to play all that stuff despite my parents not buying one for me (they got me a Sega Genesis instead, not that I'm complaining about that). So I have a soft spot for the P.C. Engine/Turbografx and wish it was higher on the list because it's an amazing system.
I've gotta disagree with your DS assessment. 3DS has first party titles and JRPG's mostly with some good eshop games, but the DS has a large and deep library across all genres much like the PS 1 & 2, MegaDrive, and 360.
The Speccy will always be my number one...
My first platform so will always have a special place in my heart. Was playing Commando the other night, class.
One of the classics of the system. I played it with my kempston Quickshot 2, and was a delight :D
Ace :-) It's still extremely playable. I had a joystick as a kid too, but can't remember which one it was. Gonna have another go now before bed ;-)
Very strange list...To each their own I guess.
If PC is in the list they should have included ARCADE as well.
Vita Vita Vita!!!!
BAD!!!. BAD RETRO8BIT!!
NO NO NO!!!!!!
It's very interesting to realise how many systems there is out there.
I don't have any strong feeling about the list as the snes and megadrive are indeed for the best consoles of all time for me.
But I really enjoy this video because it's very informative, it would be good to do a video about the top 30 games of all times.
I would say golden eye N64, and DuckTales would easily be on the list.
Great content and thank you for sharing.
Hey keeping up the quality of the channel
The sega megadrive should have been No.1. It's the greatest console of all time. I still play mine
Another bloody great video sir right im bloody off to play radiant bloody silvergun
As an American, it's interesting to see other regions lists. The NES here would be much higher than 10. I love seeing different opinions. That is one of the reasons I read this magazine myself
When ever I see a list "voted on by readers/public" it's not worth getting worked up over where things place. Most people will only vote for systems they've owned themselves. So systems that didn't sell well, no matter how good they were on there own merits, have no chance of ranking well. For example, the Atari Lynx seemed like a technological miracle when it released and had a game library that, while rather small, was really quite good and pulled off some arcade ports better than I would have thought possible. Same goes for the Turbo GrafX.
Joel ressler a small library of games is surely also taken into consideration anyway so that would also hinder it in itself! The thing with gaming consoles is price and marketing can contribute massively to how well a console sells! Get it wrong in the beginning and it doesn't matter how good your machine is! The Sega Saturn is a classic example of this!
Sega genesis and Super Nintendo definitely earned top spots. But if I were to judge sega megadrive would be number 1 and snes 2nd spot lol!
Nice Checkered Flag background music. May be a bad Jag game but the music is pretty decent.
I reckon the snes will forever remain my favourite console. So many great games. I had one until a few years ago when I had to sell it because I was low on money to pay rent to my landlord. It was heartbreaking having to let it go 😢
I'm surprised to see the Sega Dreamcast at 4# in your top. Great console.
For EU/UK gaming scene the milestones were 2600, C64/ZX/CPC route. ST/Amiga route, mostly Megadrive due to pi$$ poor US Gold/Activision/Ocean arcade conversions of horrible quality we didn't mind 50 quid for OutRun/Afterburner etc) or SNES for Ghouls n Ghosts/SF2, straight onto PS1/Saturn and on. The PC really didn't sell to home users here until Acorn gave up and Atari and Commodore were gone though. Luckily the frustration of DOS gaming incompatibility with your config was missed out by most and Windows was very crash happy before XP in 2002
PC Engine would be top 5 if it was my list
The Nes was popular here in the UK when I was growing up in the 90s. Everyone I knew was retro gaming before it became a thing. Actually the NES still had the odd release coming out for it while the Snes was out for a very long period much like the Master System being a budget version of the Megadrive at the time. I even still have a catalog where Nintendo was releasing games for all three platforms.
Not trying to be fanboy but I genuinely remember the Nes being popular here in the UK.
Also I remember the micro computers being kind of old hat during the prime of the Nes and Master System in the UK
Also the Dreamcast is held in high regard because despite games being ported to other platforms. The games were designed with the Dreamcast as the lead platform and played best on the console.
Especially games like Marvel vs Capcom 2 that were one for one like the Arcade because the Dreamcast version is the Arcade
Plus at the time it came out nothing came close to it in terms of graphics. All of the latest games made everything that was on the older platforms like Ps1 and N64 look old.
Take Rayman 2, Soul Reaver and Marvel Vs Capcom 1 as examples.
Also the Super Nintendo was wildly popular here in the West Midlands everyone I knew had Snes and Sega was owned by less people but quite similar in stance to the Snes. Street Fighter 2 was the game of my childhood among me and my friends and that game defined purchases of consoles.
I remember hiring an American copy of Super Street fighter 2 and everyone came around to play it because everyone wanted to know what the Snes version or Super Street Fighter was like due to the disappointingly less than Arcade perfect Megadrive version. Although in hindsight I quite like that version too especially with the hacks to improve the colour pallette and speech audio
My brother had one I just hated waiting half an hour for a game toload then crash in five mins, lol
I would say the Game Boy was the first Nintendo system to sell well in the UK.
Dreamcast is my top console of all time.
Preach.
3ds better be on here
I'm thinking about subscribing to Retro Gaming Magazine. Do they cover more obscure and overlooked games of old as well?
What is the music played on the c64 entry?
I thank they for got about the Sega Genesis!
My first games console at 4 yrs old and loved Alex the kid
long live to SNES
In UK Mega Drive was certainly ahead of SNES and tbh the UK library of SNES games at the time was missing some of the greatest titles. Mega Drive was the better purchase back in the day and it had a better library.
bloody well done!!
First you tell me to relax then you give me a riddle about the Switch. You sir are maniacal! 😜
lol running out of ideas to troll the youtube audience?
MY LIST
1. Playstation 3 - but only if you got the one with all of the backward compatibility
2. Super Nintendo - cause USA USA USA USA
3. Gamecube - dont forget to put the gameboy player on the bottom
4. Xbox360 - cause xbox live rules
5. Dreamcast - it only lived 2 years but gosh darn it had arcade perfect conversions of street fighter
What does the Super Nintendo have to do with the U.S.?
don't you know the myth of how Nintendo saved the gaming industry in the West. technically it started with the NES being sold as a toy but SNES set the standard of the Nintendo Seal of Quality.
+OLE SammyOLE Hmm, interesting
OLE SammyOLE Nintendo did not save the gaming industry in the west! Oh just noticed you said it was a myth! Thats cool then, i thought it was something you believed was true!
OLE SammyOLE The Nintendo seal of Quality was a thing back in the NES days.
Its quality control
That music that's playing during the Atari Lynx segment sounds like some of the music from Checkered Flag on the Atari Jaguar. Is that accurate or is it my imagination?
"The Atari TWOOO six-hundred" Cracked me up
Really odd how different the markets in UK and Germany were in the 8 and 16 bit eras
The first is the NEOGEO, all users of snes and genesis of the time would have sold their soul to have one. And you know it.
Their game library is a different story.
I would have put the Mega Drive over the SNES, but overall the list seems fairly reasonable, but things like Commodore I’ve very little experience with. I might have put the 2600 higher I suppose.
San Francisco rush 2049 was on this as well as n64 amazing games for Dreamcast
I'm suprised not to see the Gameboy Colour (I have to spell it correctly even if Nintendo can't) make the list. I loved mine and thought the library of games was very underrated, though admittedly a backlit screen would have helped its cause.
You are the first person I have heard both agree with me on the GameCube being your go to if that generation and that generation being ok at best
Can only think that the SNES came in #1 based on the fact that the SNES Classic was released so recently released with full speed, full screen games. As this is a UK poll you have to factor in that the SNES in PAL regions was a far from brilliant gaming experience in period, PAL conversions of SNES titles were typically very poorly done, I don't know if this was down to the system it's self (in terms of coding) or just lazy ports from developers, the result was games that were noticably slower than their NTSC counterparts with big borders at the top and bottom of the screen and a "squashed" look to the graphics. Sega Megadrive games from the same period suffered much less from this, which makes me think it may have been that converting games on the SNES was in someway more difficult. It took until 1999 and the release of the Sega Dreamcast for this issue to be resolved as you could run games in 60Hz mode provided you had a compatible TV.
They only considered the game system's own games when making the list no backward compatibility that's why the DS is above the 3ds.
Also the DS has a bigger library of games than the 3ds, it has what many would consider the best Pokemon games ( Heartgold/Soulsilver) plus many games that appeal to retro gamers such as Megaman Zero collection, Jump ultimate stars, the Castlevania games, and many more 2D titles
I was referencing this video on twitch (joesteinman) and PC winning a spot. Just with Microsoft and MS DOS Windows 95-xp-7-10 whatever these are each a selection for the top 30 consoles. For me Windows 10 is the best console of all time because I can play almost every game ever made and then MS DOS!
Strange, you say you loved the N64 in its time but in retrospective it is a bit shyte (agree there), yet you don't see that it is tthis same dynamic in reverse that places the Dreamcast this high.
I think the correct term for "PC" in this case would be "windows" Because windows is the platform that runs the majority of PC games. Arguably, "Steam" could be counted as its own platform, even though it runs on Windows.
i know it's a personnal Top 30 but i'can't understand how the Dreamcast can be over the Saturn with it's tiny library and very little exclusives titles ....
It's not personal, it was voted on by people all over the world on social media. Not just the UK, THGM.
harder to understand in this case
I love the vita a lot but I get why it isnt on the list. Most people just arent aware of its great library.
What is a PC?
Which era? I have a liking for the 486/Pentium era and the games that accompanied that era.
The Sega GENESIS would never make my top five. Great system, just not worthy of top five. And yes, 3DS should be FAR higher. Dreamcast would be higher on my list. PC isn't a games console. Sega CD would be on my list just for Snatcher. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head.
The Saturn and N64 should swap places on this list!
I say anything Sega is #1
I'll agree that an entry as vague as 'PC' should not be in a list like this. The platform can literally play most of the games on the list already from a modern perspective, hell it can even play Wii U games! From a retro perspective, the C64, Amiga, Amstrad and IBM PC also qualify as 'PCs'. Very vague indeed.
It seems like a good list, regardless of the region you live in.
Thanks for calling out youtube sellouts on Switch
PC = DOS and Windows. My favorite(and pretty much only) platform since 90's.
Ah the nintendo 64.. the only console that even though i had fun with OoT and Goldeneye... that i rly regreted to buy.
I quite like the PC Engine. I don't own one but I've played quite a few of its games and it contains some of the best NES ports (better than the NES versions) and plenty of excellent exclusives.
Played Die Hard for it the other day, was shite .First PC Engine game I ever played, so not great first impressions ;-) What games are good?
Honestly, I tend to just go through all the roms and pick out whatever sounds interesting so I'm probably not the best to ask, but the Bonk games were the console's flagship Mario equivalent so I'd go with them and I guess the Adventure Island and Wonder Boy games which generally had different names to the Sega versions so you'll have to look that stuff up. My personal pick for a good game is Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu. It's a pretty good side scroller.
Sweet, I'll check them out this weekend thanks. Yeah I've heard of Bonk, one of the console mascots pretty much right? I like picking roms at random too :-) Though I played a Die Hard for a video based on all games related to the source material
Yes, Bonk was the mascot for Hudson. And that's cool, I enjoyed Die Hard Arcade.
CrAzYgIrL That’s my number 1 😀
Great video
The Switch only at #30? It should have been a lot higher. It's an awesome console so far.
This article annoyed me a little, if anything it was the quotes people gave. One of the quotes for the Super Nintendo was "its the pinnacle of affordable platform gaming" (I'm paraphrasing because I can't find my copy). How could it be the "pinnacle of affordable platform gaming". Super Nintendo games was consistently £5-£10 more expensive than the Mega Drive equivalent game. Surely with that criteria the 8bit computers are the pinnacle of platform gaming with the selection of thousands of games going for just a couple of quid.
Ps1 fifa 97 was first game n I was hooked
Nice list. I should consider to read retro gaming magazine. But the PC in a retro top 30 list?? Sure, in comparison to consoles, PC is superior in graphics. I use my PC for producing music. Internet browsing and some other useful tasks. The games I play on PC are running on emulators from older consoles. Have a handful games from this era, but for games that not run on emulation, I prefer a dedicated game console, like my PlayStation 4 and Nintendo Switch.
If you could only take 1 console and all its games with you to live on a desert island, what would you choose?
PS2. If only because the catalogue is so huge
V3n0m7 GBA. Giant library, double backwards compatable, comfortable to play/look at, and it's mostly 2d games.
first: AMIGA
second: ZX SPECTRUM
and then the rest (random order ;) ) cheers
From what I see on the the forums there's alot of people who don't live in the UK read it so can't really be called a UK list
The best handheld ever at the time it came out, blew Nintendo away
I thought the gba would be in the top 10 but 15 is still pretty good
1-ps1
2-snes
3-genesis
4-Sega Saturn
5-nes
6-n64
7-Dreamcast
8-turbo grafix 16
In no particular order...my personal list.
1. Neo Geo AES
2. NEO GEO Pocket Color
3. PC Engine/Turbo Grafx 16
4. Sega Master System
5. Sega Genesis
6. Sega Game Gear
7. Sega CD
8. Sega Saturn
9. Sega Dreamcast
10. Sony PS1
11. PS2
12. PS3
13. PS4
14. NES/Famicom
15. SNES/Super Famicom
16. N64
17. Gamecube
18. Wii
19. Wii U
20. Switch
21. Gameboy
22. Gameboy Color
23. GBA
24. DS
25. 3DS
26. Xbox
27. Xbox 360
28. Xbox One
29. PSP
30. PS Vita
31. 3DO
32. Sega Nomad
PC Engine and Neo Geo AES should be much higher closer to the top.
Over here in the states, I actually had my snes first. Friend's mom sold it to us in late 91, I believe to punish said friend. No idea what he did. Bought Zelda at release. By summer 92, I had a Genesis, and repeatedly bought games for the Sega over the Nintendo. Yes, I got Final Fight, Street Fighter 2, and all the RPGs, but EVERYTHING else was on Sega. As a collector with well over 1200 games, I don't own a SNES or an N64. No reason to. Got Zelda on gba, Squaresoft games on ps1, and a better version of final fight on the Sega cd! I'd rather buy Saturn games with that $$!
YJZep My first console was an Atari 2600, I didn't have many games for it though
Enterprize 1701 oh, I meant between the snes and genesis. The VCS was my first as well, xmas 1983. I was 4, and my parents gave me theirs and bought me ET. I actually loved that game!
easily one of the weirdest lists ever, what are you guys smoking over in the UK
Cold Drip Gaming Probably Tesco green leaf tea.
A PC is technically a microcomputer designed primarily for one person at a time. Technically, by this definition most consoles are designed for more than one person but that is kind of a stretch. I'd more say any computer with rewritable software, though even still that would still include the PS4, PS3, Xbox One, Xbox 360, Wii U, and even 3DS.
I assume they refer to devices running Windows, MacOs, or Linux but just writing PC is rather weak. Even still if they mean that this should immediately become the number 1 as they can run all of these games with any controller and many for free. This one doesn't make sense.
N64 aye goldeneye, and San Francisco rush 2049 great games