I completely agree about note-taking. Paper and physically writing stuff down cannot be beaten for learning. It also creates and binds neural information., in ways computers cannot do. Why many do not do these simple things and then complain they cannot learn is unfathomable.
Writing thongs down when I am studying a language is very important to me. I do use apps, but only as a secondary source for some pratice and for additional information about the language. And sometimes I forget the apps and go weeks or months without using them. But I keep watchimg lessons and writing them down.
Yes, it's awesome. When I'm learning languages, I usually try to learn about a whole new topic at the same time. For example, chess and Mandarin. I know more about Mandarin than chess, so I try to learn chess first, new Mandarin vocab comes as a bonus. About car engine in Japanese, chainsaw and woodcutting work in Swedish, and so on. L1 Finnish (and music LoL)
Wow, that's a very impressive and ambitious approach. But I can clearly see why it could work. When I was making research about language learning topic on neuroscience, I came across some papers looking into that. Music definitely plays a factor in such topics. I've been also playing chess since I was a child, on and off. Brain is like a muscle, when one uses it to learn/practice something, it naturally may help on other fields positively as a side effect. Thanks for sharing...
🌈🌈🌈 I use to write a lot of my content or information down in a notebook. I got bored of that kind of thing, so I seldom do it anymore. I do more listening than anything.🌈🌈🌈 I am learning Swahili, Brazilian Portuguese, Dutch, Modern Standard Arabic. It is my first official day of learning the Filipino language.🌈🌈🌈
I also do a lot of listening at times when I’m starting or trying to improve a language. This method is covering the aspect of physically recording the consumed content, which can/should also be audio input often times. So it’s not negating any other type of media. My goal is to motivate people, especially younger generations about learning. And writing in some form I believe is an essential element to instill discipline. Enjoy the journey with your languages 🙂
@@FelixGibson-zz1dr Hopefully you’ll gain more clarity after the upcoming videos, because I’ll try to cover more aspects and mention some supplementary elements. Taking notes (writing) has always been an effective way to retain information, but often neglected in this day and age. ‘Timeless’ in this context doesn’t mean it doesn’t take time, it refers to the method’s longevity. It literally helped people for thousands of years and will keep helping in the future as well…
How long does it take to build one page starting at a zero knowledge point? How much of your language study is focused on Building vs. Practicing? How much of your language practice is solo vs. partner? I'm learning Hebrew, using the Tony Marsh approach, I spent about an hour building a page, in the Past Tense for 'to go', I went to school, in Simple, Continuous, Perfect and Imperfect. One line, I went, second line, to school, so I know which word is the verb. The other word is the vocabulary. (I may reorganize this into a single line system.) I still have to do Present, Future and Conditional. I'm focusing on the four basic verbs of the core verbs, Be, Have, Go, and Do. What is your list of core verbs?
Hi, sorry for the late reply. I try to address all your questions with numbers. 1. Filling one page takes from 10 minutes to 1.5 hour, but I often come back and add new things to a page when I learn something short and relevant to the topic. A finished page doesn't have to look perfectly organized in the end, the main purpose of it is giving some clues to your brain to remember certain things. 2. Depends on the language, my level in the language, where I currently am or how many people I have access to. Solo practice is mostly focused on listening and maybe shadowing. I developed an app (named Langlogy) to speed-up my process (not fully released to the public yet, but soon will be), one feature it has is practicing with an AI partner in the target language in a fun way. 3. Honestly, for most languages, I lean more towards avoiding complex grammar and not worrying about covering every single rule/detail. That would be memorizing, which is what most schools do, yet you rarely see someone getting good at a language just by relying on a traditional language class in school. Caring grammar less may not make you an expert in the language but it can create a more sustainable learning experience that you actually enjoy improving more in the long term. It is also worth mentioning, each language comes with its own set of priorities, the verbs / words you learn in one language first may not be equally important for a different language. 4. My core list also varies, for example currently I am learning Thai organically (but not studying it very systematically, at least not yet), and to give you an example for me saying 'it's delicious' is more important than saying 'I am running' because I am visiting different restaurants in Thailand, meeting with local chefs these days. But if you were to visit an Olympic Games host country, the former expression could have been more relevant in that country's language. In other words it is all about context. I think if you focus more on which parts of the language are more meaningful to you in real life, you are going to enjoy and improve faster. After all it is not about completing a task or curriculum, it's about communicating in most cases. When I get the chance, I will talk more in-depth about this topic in the future videos.
@@PolyglotPassportYour explanations are helpful and allow me to see how other people implement the Conversation Method. Have one notebook just for the target language. I should be able to develop 15-20 questions with answers per day or per session. In the beginning, I'm feeling my way around, so it may take a little more time, 1-2 hours, it's normal, but it is also content dependent. Review them and test myself. The Questions and answers should have real life relevance. If your going on a specific trip, like to China for a Kung Fu tour, then you will need to tailor the language learning for that environment. How often is a page built? Do you build a page and then review for a period of time before you begin another page or is it a page a day?
In the past I used it for a very short while. It’s a powerful option, but not my cup of coffee. I’ll explain why, and alternative tools in future videos…
@ I said it that was on purpose. Some people may hate it but I like playing and modifying words to my liking often, and I naturally make mistakes as well. But I believe that’s how languages evolve…
@@PolyglotPassport But the saying has always been not my cup of tea pretty much forever. It sounds like someone misspoke because English is not their first language.
@@michaelabercrombie7698As I said, it was intended. But you’re absolutely right, it’s a common occurrence (notice I still don’t label it as a mistake). On the other hand, I personally make a lot of mistakes in all languages I speak including my native one, and that’s okay… The message was received perfectly fine by whom it was intended for. I just see policing over languages as a barrier, it discourages people learning or practicing. That’s why I may sound a little defensive on this matter, please don’t take it personally :) You’re always welcome to watch my videos if you can bear the mistakes ☺️
In a future video I am planning to review Anki and maybe some other similar apps. But the point of this video is, that one can get results even without relying on Anki as well. There are many ways to improve a language. So I recommend not getting fixated on just one way of doing things. Just 'pen and paper' can be as powerful, people learned multiple languages long before the invention of computers and phones...
Pretty much, yes. It wouldn’t work, if one underestimates the power of simple, good old-school methods though. In future videos, I’ll try to cover some other key elements as well.
Sorry for the late reply. It's been a little hectic lately. I did mention the brand name in the video, they're Lamy A5 booklets. You can view the related part at 06:46 in the video (there is also a useful size guide there after a few seconds for you to pick the size I recommend). Keep in mind that any notebook would work similarly, I personally like lightweight notebooks more. Feel free to pick some alternative that's available in your region. Enjoy your studies...
Thank you :) Languages of the world should represent people, not the royal entities, the current population of Mexico is more than double of Spain's, not to mention Mexican population in the States (the same applies to some other South American nationalities as well)... I honestly don't understand why people don't take this as a factor. In one of my other videos, I showed only Spain's flag, because the topic I talked about was related to the unfortunate weather events that happened recently in Valencia etc.
This is very simplistic and not practical. Unfortunately, learning multiple languages that are really close to each other is by itself a wrong approach. I see lots of so called polygots giving quite deceiving information. Best is to learn the classical way. Learning languages nowadays are so easy that it is quite unnecessary to learn this method or that method. Just buy a textbook and learn.
Simplistic ways are often more practical compared to unnecessarily complex ways. I don’t think the languages that I’ve mentioned in the video are really close to each other. And even if they were, I don’t believe learning them together would be a “wrong” choice, the world doesn’t have to be so binary. Human brain is more capable than most people think. Maybe I explain this more in another video... There are naturally different methods that can be adopted in language learning, depending on what’s available around and learning preferences. One way doesn’t have to negate the other one, they can be utilized in a complimentary way. A person can freely share their experience/thoughts on their platform, that’s how people learn and perhaps find some inspiration from each other…
Studying close related languages simultaneously is only a bad thing if one starts all of them at the same time or almost at the same time. If one is already, say it, B1 in Spanish and then starts to learn Italian, it is so that confusing.
I actually like how Greek language sounds a lot. I wish I had more time for it though 😊 Hopefully one day I’ll be able to cover some of its basics at the very least…
Вы бы поставили флаг третьего рейха со свастикой на тетрадку для изучения немецкого языка? Так же и на тетрадку для изучения русского могли бы поставить другой флаг, РДК или хотя бы флаг российской оппозиции.
I completely agree about note-taking. Paper and physically writing stuff down cannot be beaten for learning. It also creates and binds neural information., in ways computers cannot do. Why many do not do these simple things and then complain they cannot learn is unfathomable.
I like displaying ur notes the way u did on ur table.
I"m glad you like it. Hope it helps on your language learning journey someway.
Writing thongs down when I am studying a language is very important to me. I do use apps, but only as a secondary source for some pratice and for additional information about the language. And sometimes I forget the apps and go weeks or months without using them. But I keep watchimg lessons and writing them down.
Yes, it's awesome. When I'm learning languages, I usually try to learn about a whole new topic at the same time. For example, chess and Mandarin. I know more about Mandarin than chess, so I try to learn chess first, new Mandarin vocab comes as a bonus.
About car engine in Japanese, chainsaw and woodcutting work in Swedish, and so on.
L1 Finnish (and music LoL)
Wow, that's a very impressive and ambitious approach. But I can clearly see why it could work. When I was making research about language learning topic on neuroscience, I came across some papers looking into that. Music definitely plays a factor in such topics. I've been also playing chess since I was a child, on and off. Brain is like a muscle, when one uses it to learn/practice something, it naturally may help on other fields positively as a side effect. Thanks for sharing...
🌈🌈🌈 I use to write a lot of my content or information down in a notebook. I got bored of that kind of thing, so I seldom do it anymore. I do more listening than anything.🌈🌈🌈
I am learning Swahili, Brazilian Portuguese, Dutch, Modern Standard Arabic. It is my first official day of learning the Filipino
language.🌈🌈🌈
I also do a lot of listening at times when I’m starting or trying to improve a language.
This method is covering the aspect of physically recording the consumed content, which can/should also be audio input often times. So it’s not negating any other type of media.
My goal is to motivate people, especially younger generations about learning. And writing in some form I believe is an essential element to instill discipline.
Enjoy the journey with your languages 🙂
I'm more confused after watching this video. What's the timeless method? Taking notes about the language learning experience?
@@FelixGibson-zz1dr Hopefully you’ll gain more clarity after the upcoming videos, because I’ll try to cover more aspects and mention some supplementary elements.
Taking notes (writing) has always been an effective way to retain information, but often neglected in this day and age. ‘Timeless’ in this context doesn’t mean it doesn’t take time, it refers to the method’s longevity. It literally helped people for thousands of years and will keep helping in the future as well…
@PolyglotPassport I agree. Writing things down works best for me.
How long does it take to build one page starting at a zero knowledge point?
How much of your language study is focused on Building vs. Practicing?
How much of your language practice is solo vs. partner?
I'm learning Hebrew, using the Tony Marsh approach, I spent about an hour building a page, in the Past Tense for 'to go', I went to school, in Simple, Continuous, Perfect and Imperfect.
One line, I went, second line, to school, so I know which word is the verb. The other word is the vocabulary. (I may reorganize this into a single line system.)
I still have to do Present, Future and Conditional.
I'm focusing on the four basic verbs of the core verbs, Be, Have, Go, and Do.
What is your list of core verbs?
Hi, sorry for the late reply. I try to address all your questions with numbers.
1. Filling one page takes from 10 minutes to 1.5 hour, but I often come back and add new things to a page when I learn something short and relevant to the topic. A finished page doesn't have to look perfectly organized in the end, the main purpose of it is giving some clues to your brain to remember certain things.
2. Depends on the language, my level in the language, where I currently am or how many people I have access to. Solo practice is mostly focused on listening and maybe shadowing. I developed an app (named Langlogy) to speed-up my process (not fully released to the public yet, but soon will be), one feature it has is practicing with an AI partner in the target language in a fun way.
3. Honestly, for most languages, I lean more towards avoiding complex grammar and not worrying about covering every single rule/detail. That would be memorizing, which is what most schools do, yet you rarely see someone getting good at a language just by relying on a traditional language class in school. Caring grammar less may not make you an expert in the language but it can create a more sustainable learning experience that you actually enjoy improving more in the long term. It is also worth mentioning, each language comes with its own set of priorities, the verbs / words you learn in one language first may not be equally important for a different language.
4. My core list also varies, for example currently I am learning Thai organically (but not studying it very systematically, at least not yet), and to give you an example for me saying 'it's delicious' is more important than saying 'I am running' because I am visiting different restaurants in Thailand, meeting with local chefs these days. But if you were to visit an Olympic Games host country, the former expression could have been more relevant in that country's language. In other words it is all about context. I think if you focus more on which parts of the language are more meaningful to you in real life, you are going to enjoy and improve faster. After all it is not about completing a task or curriculum, it's about communicating in most cases.
When I get the chance, I will talk more in-depth about this topic in the future videos.
@@PolyglotPassportYour explanations are helpful and allow me to see how other people implement the Conversation Method.
Have one notebook just for the target language.
I should be able to develop 15-20 questions with answers per day or per session. In the beginning, I'm feeling my way around, so it may take a little more time, 1-2 hours, it's normal, but it is also content dependent.
Review them and test myself.
The Questions and answers should have real life relevance.
If your going on a specific trip, like to China for a Kung Fu tour, then you will need to tailor the language learning for that environment.
How often is a page built? Do you build a page and then review for a period of time before you begin another page or is it a page a day?
So you don’t use anki?
In the past I used it for a very short while. It’s a powerful option, but not my cup of coffee. I’ll explain why, and alternative tools in future videos…
@@PolyglotPassportcup of tea but close.
@ I said it that was on purpose. Some people may hate it but I like playing and modifying words to my liking often, and I naturally make mistakes as well. But I believe that’s how languages evolve…
@@PolyglotPassport But the saying has always been not my cup of tea pretty much forever. It sounds like someone misspoke because English is not their first language.
@@michaelabercrombie7698As I said, it was intended. But you’re absolutely right, it’s a common occurrence (notice I still don’t label it as a mistake). On the other hand, I personally make a lot of mistakes in all languages I speak including my native one, and that’s okay…
The message was received perfectly fine by whom it was intended for. I just see policing over languages as a barrier, it discourages people learning or practicing. That’s why I may sound a little defensive on this matter, please don’t take it personally :) You’re always welcome to watch my videos if you can bear the mistakes ☺️
im happy to see a method with anki because i can literally never get into it😭😭 i use the app once then never use it again🙏 thank you for this video
In a future video I am planning to review Anki and maybe some other similar apps. But the point of this video is, that one can get results even without relying on Anki as well. There are many ways to improve a language. So I recommend not getting fixated on just one way of doing things. Just 'pen and paper' can be as powerful, people learned multiple languages long before the invention of computers and phones...
So: the "method" is "take notes in notebooks, and display the notebooks so they are easy to review"???
Pretty much, yes. It wouldn’t work, if one underestimates the power of simple, good old-school methods though. In future videos, I’ll try to cover some other key elements as well.
He also showed the layout of his notebooks: English in black, target language in blue, and grammar (kept to a minimum) in red.
A video foe German, please.
Thank you so much.
Unfortunately, it may not happen anytime soon because of other things happening in my life. But I hear you, now it's in my mind (:
A video about Japanese language please
@@JustIITbombay Not sure when I can find time for it, but sure thing, soon or later I will post a video about Japanese 🇯🇵🙂↕️
What is the notebook brand name please, so we can find to buy
he mentioned it's Lamy
Sorry for the late reply. It's been a little hectic lately. I did mention the brand name in the video, they're Lamy A5 booklets. You can view the related part at 06:46 in the video (there is also a useful size guide there after a few seconds for you to pick the size I recommend). Keep in mind that any notebook would work similarly, I personally like lightweight notebooks more. Feel free to pick some alternative that's available in your region. Enjoy your studies...
Spanish with Mexico flag? As a mexician im impressed its not spains flag.
Thank you :) Languages of the world should represent people, not the royal entities, the current population of Mexico is more than double of Spain's, not to mention Mexican population in the States (the same applies to some other South American nationalities as well)... I honestly don't understand why people don't take this as a factor. In one of my other videos, I showed only Spain's flag, because the topic I talked about was related to the unfortunate weather events that happened recently in Valencia etc.
then lets call it mexican language?
This is very simplistic and not practical. Unfortunately, learning multiple languages that are really close to each other is by itself a wrong approach. I see lots of so called polygots giving quite deceiving information. Best is to learn the classical way. Learning languages nowadays are so easy that it is quite unnecessary to learn this method or that method. Just buy a textbook and learn.
Simplistic ways are often more practical compared to unnecessarily complex ways.
I don’t think the languages that I’ve mentioned in the video are really close to each other. And even if they were, I don’t believe learning them together would be a “wrong” choice, the world doesn’t have to be so binary. Human brain is more capable than most people think. Maybe I explain this more in another video...
There are naturally different methods that can be adopted in language learning, depending on what’s available around and learning preferences. One way doesn’t have to negate the other one, they can be utilized in a complimentary way.
A person can freely share their experience/thoughts on their platform, that’s how people learn and perhaps find some inspiration from each other…
But a textbook will not make you sound native or achieve any level higher than B1.
@@thedinobros1218 I got to C1 level and full fluency in French by only reading through the textboos and audios and videos associated with the.
Studying close related languages simultaneously is only a bad thing if one starts all of them at the same time or almost at the same time. If one is already, say it, B1 in Spanish and then starts to learn Italian, it is so that confusing.
@@homayounmohtaat7885 You didn’t develop a French accent.
Next notebook for greek, please!
I actually like how Greek language sounds a lot. I wish I had more time for it though 😊 Hopefully one day I’ll be able to cover some of its basics at the very least…
too much vague , irrelevant chatter before getting to any points. I gave up.
Вы бы поставили флаг третьего рейха со свастикой на тетрадку для изучения немецкого языка?
Так же и на тетрадку для изучения русского могли бы поставить другой флаг, РДК или хотя бы флаг российской оппозиции.
это государственный флаг страны, язык которой он изучает.