Technique can always be improved. Whether one wants to or not; that is the question. 😅 Interesting that you experienced paddle flutter with the Euro. That might mean the catch and pull was off kilter (angle) or the high hand was not stabilizing the paddle adequately. Flutter means lost pressure and efficiency. You might want to paddle more with the Euros to smooth them out and lose the flutter before you start really applying force. Always hard to do a proper A/B comparison when you’ve spent so much time with A versus B. Interesting nevertheless to get your on-water observations as you give it a go. Appreciate the effort!
I have heard from a kayak paddler who was paddling before the wing was invented that flutter is always an issue with the euro blade. And why should I bother with a blade that flutters when the neither of my three wing paddles has any flutter no matter how hard I paddle it?
You can't expect to compare a wing which you usually paddle to a euro blade which you obviously do not know how to paddle because you have gotten so used to the wing :) Engineer talk wise, with euro, the majority of the force produced is near the middle of the stroke, whereas with the wing, due to it's sticky traits, it is more linear. For euro, and this is also similar with greenland paddles, it is like the clutch is engaged more in the start and the end of the stroke. Give the euro a few slow sessions to feel the blade and then you will be ready for a more detailed review. But overall, having tried all three paddle types, I am a wing guy :) Hope that insight helps. Cheers!
Thanks for your insights. But for me the major advantage of the euro paddle was to demonstrate how wonderful the wing paddle is. That's why I recommend all wing paddlers to paddle a few km with a euro so that they better appreciate the wing. I do plan to paddle the euro again, but with a different size blade on each side to see how they compare. And then again with the two smaller blades I have.
@@CCRAPresearch If you are interested in paddling forward 99% of the time then I have to agree. The wing has less slip at the catch and the mid stroke. The end of the stroke the efficiency tails off with both and thats why people shouldn't leave the blade in past their body. Flats are great for the full range of steering strokes but that doesnt apply to a ski.
Technique can always be improved. Whether one wants to or not; that is the question. 😅 Interesting that you experienced paddle flutter with the Euro. That might mean the catch and pull was off kilter (angle) or the high hand was not stabilizing the paddle adequately. Flutter means lost pressure and efficiency. You might want to paddle more with the Euros to smooth them out and lose the flutter before you start really applying force. Always hard to do a proper A/B comparison when you’ve spent so much time with A versus B. Interesting nevertheless to get your on-water observations as you give it a go. Appreciate the effort!
I have heard from a kayak paddler who was paddling before the wing was invented that flutter is always an issue with the euro blade.
And why should I bother with a blade that flutters when the neither of my three wing paddles has any flutter no matter how hard I paddle it?
You can't expect to compare a wing which you usually paddle to a euro blade which you obviously do not know how to paddle because you have gotten so used to the wing :) Engineer talk wise, with euro, the majority of the force produced is near the middle of the stroke, whereas with the wing, due to it's sticky traits, it is more linear. For euro, and this is also similar with greenland paddles, it is like the clutch is engaged more in the start and the end of the stroke. Give the euro a few slow sessions to feel the blade and then you will be ready for a more detailed review. But overall, having tried all three paddle types, I am a wing guy :) Hope that insight helps. Cheers!
Thanks for your insights. But for me the major advantage of the euro paddle was to demonstrate how wonderful the wing paddle is. That's why I recommend all wing paddlers to paddle a few km with a euro so that they better appreciate the wing.
I do plan to paddle the euro again, but with a different size blade on each side to see how they compare. And then again with the two smaller blades I have.
@@CCRAPresearch If you are interested in paddling forward 99% of the time then I have to agree. The wing has less slip at the catch and the mid stroke. The end of the stroke the efficiency tails off with both and thats why people shouldn't leave the blade in past their body. Flats are great for the full range of steering strokes but that doesnt apply to a ski.
In the UK, we call these "asymmetric" paddles. Agree, they don't lock on to the water the same, particularly as you try to apply more power.
What is your very favorite paddle?
Well, can you test now and let us know the difference - strawberry vs cocoanut? That would be interesting.
Your stroke is what's making you feel fatigued. You might like the euro paddle more in dynamic water.
Arm paddler.
Yes, paddling involves the arms-I can’t imagine padding without them!
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