Thanks guys, great infomercial as usual. I've had my square crimping tool from "a well known online supplier" for nearly two years. I got the kit with insulated ferrules for a job changing dozens of ceiling tubes to LEDs in schools terminating Hager Clik roses and, even sounding like a castanet, which mine doesn't really, it's a cost effective bit of kit. There are too many choices of ferrules to stick to a single one and as you mentioned, it depends what is available, so I fit to size and not colour. If I was working 8 hours a day every day on panel wiring i might splash out but not many of us could justify the cost of your ones.
I have both Preciva crimp tools (hex and square) and have had no issues in the year that ihave been using them. They come with a box of ferrules and a soft case which is a huge bonus. I am sure the Wiha tool is far better quality but it comes at a price. Good review guys
I've been using a Cembre ferrule crimper for the last 15 years, upgraded to the Wiha 18 months ago as mine only went up to 10mm and having a 16mm on tap is bloody handy at times ... when it comes to tools .. buy once, cry once
I was told, on a TE Connectivity course, that should only twist to restore the manufacturers lay of the cable and they you can normal achieve that by gently drawing the strands between finger and thumb.
I wish they would make a tool that picked up and sorted your ferrules. For when you accidentally lift the box up without shutting the lid, throwing them all over the floor or the back of the van.
The final bit of crimping occurs when you tighten down the terminal screw. They tend not to look square or hexaganol after that treatment. The small sizes often goes completely flat. However, no matter, as the ferrule will have done its job by maintain excellent electrical contact with all those fine wires and protecting them from being partly cut through by the rotating terminal screw at the clamping point. Personally, I think class 2 would also benefit from ferrules to contain the "strand spreading" under a screw terminal. Not such an issue with cage type terminals.
As someone has already mentioned in comments wiedmuller have been doing professional crimpers for years. Their quality were exceptional but lately have diminished. I've now switched to facom so much better. As a panel builder and wireman you can't beat them.
Problems in pcm control panels I’ve seen is square crimp in half moon lug. But worse is trouble shooting when wires are combined and crimped, would like the kick the lazy assembler in the nuts. I will mostly solder single wires when combining.
I've been using Weidmuller for years definitely worth the money, clean and spray a little wd40 on them now and then thay will last a long time ,pair I have now been going over 20years panel building
I bought the £12 eBay crimper. It included delivery and 1000 assorted ferrules. The Knipex version is virtually identical and retails at a local authorised dealer at £135+vat. Did an extensive wiring job with it and it worked perfecly throughout. Some branded stuff is just not worth the outlay.
You’ve missed entirely the very simple and clear point that’s been made - it did the job, and done at the price point of the consumer. It’s not about the feel is it? That isn’t of primary concern. Opinions are all well and good but if they’re born out of flogging and promoting someone’s product then the bias governing that opinion is all too evident.
I've brought 2 versions of the Variocrimp by Wago. I purchased direct from Germany worked out much cheaper. Wago's are usually cheaper from Gemany too. If you're buying in bulk that is.
i have 3 of them for crimp types I don't use often. they are pretty garbage quality, stiff mechanisms, poorly fitting jaws etc... fine for small amounts of work but if it's something you use every day hundreds of times a day get decent ones.
So did I and sent them back after trying some test crimps, the arm was loose, the mechanism was pants with poor adjustment, and it got sent back for a refund, then ordered a Wiha pair which were much better made
I would add that you should look around at the German/Austrian tool makes, in General they all make the same or similar things from each other. Some make for one another also. The Wiha in the video is also made by Gedore as part code 3416437 and for around £100 is it a great deal less than the Wiha crimper. Same tool, who makes for who, anyones guess.
Nice. There is a specialised ferrule crimper as you showed that there is a special jaw that fits into standard crimping pliers to crimp these Ferrules. Would you choose one over the other?
From my experience weildmuller crimpers and second to none in quality crimp and durability , I've been using the same one constantly for years thousands of crimps and no issues and feels the same since knew but are pricey but will last forever , only negative they only go to 4 sq typically
The ocasional crimper observation is important! I believe durability and maintaining crimp quality over time costs a lot: I found ABB crimping pliers on e-bay, used, for around 1,000 dollars (including die set).
At first I use Ferrules. But as the wire gauge gets thicker and thicker, Ferrules won't cut it. In this episode, you showed us a Ferrule with HEX and SQUARE results. Any Ferrule crimpers that produces a "rectagular" head that best fits MCBs? What terminal should be used when using 8mm² to 35mm² wires to be connected to MCBs? THANKS!
It’s also Wiha - shop.tooltalk.com/products/wiha-automatic-stripping-tool-up-to-16mm?variant=36096291143843&Shoptimised+incremental&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_f7twrbE9AIVXIFQBh27JgOXEAQYAiABEgJdSPD_BwE
Just a small note: The top end of this tool is not 16mm sq but 10mm sq Twin since 2x10 mm sq is more than 16mm sq :D Besides that little mistake, great review
How do you crimp 4mm2 ferrule with an 18mm pin length - my crimper is designed for a maximum 12mm pin length. Do you try and crimp twice along the length or will one 12 mm crimp suffice in the middle or at the pointed end?
Is it my color settings on my computer thats off or is it the recording? Seems way more briight red than usual. Maybe time to go trough a rewire of the lighting in the studio? (Or the color settings on the camera/software if its on that end) As a sidenote; This channel sure has gotten big on pushing the greatness of the Ferrule's and Wago's onto the people, Cant complain though, Been loving them 👍
$180.00 vs $20.00 🤔 Well the $20 one works just fine... Not spending that much for the same thing basically ya it better be built better for $180 but I'm good with the $20 pair... JS 🤑🤣💯👍
Skimming through the IPC books gathering dust at work they showed a sliver of conductor strands poking out of crimp terminals to be acceptable, or flush with the crimp barrel end. Recessed conductors inside the crimp barrel were a no-go. At the back of uninsulated terminals, they showed that a tiny gap should be visible (i.e. the crimp barrel should not butt up to the cable insulation). Why? I have no idea, but anything military, space, aviation, or high-end industrial has to adhere to these rules. Take this information with a huge bag of salt, I don't have a single IPC certification.
With a great wire cutter you can have an almost flat wire end. And with practice and goot setup, you can strip insulation that fits right in the ferrule. No need to trim the strands or anything else. Most appliances (MCBs, RCBs, outlets, etc) take more than the ferrule length so why bother with a few tenths of wire poking out? Seems like your military is extra pedantric on useless things.
I use the Knippex version. It would have been interesting if you also put the "on line" retailer up against the Wiha, I know what we all would buy,.. but one wonders why you didn't.. maybe you guys did off camera, and the results were better than expected? 😂😂
I have personal issues using ferrule colored differently than the color coding of the cable, like brown on green and yellow CYA... also, it is hard to get the correct color for the diameter
Where is the link to the information about twisting the bare wire and protruding of the wire on the ferrule end? One more debate with some people on the twisting of the bare wire: Should you worry about introducing contaminants when twisting the bare wire which can possibly corrode your wire and cause problems?
I do like the Wiha crimping tools but at £200 a pop, it's a no from me. I note there wasn't really any critical analysis of cheaper Amazon ones other than "it rattles a bit". I love the "any angle" of that new Wiha one, but I will make do with a Preciva on the grounds that I don't want to spend £200 to be able to crimp at any angle...
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eFIXX Ferrule crimping series - inc colour chart download
www.efixx.co.uk/Know%20How/ferrules
It takes a certain kind of person to enjoy every second of this video, I’m glad to be one of them! 😃
Thanks guys, great infomercial as usual. I've had my square crimping tool from "a well known online supplier" for nearly two years. I got the kit with insulated ferrules for a job changing dozens of ceiling tubes to LEDs in schools terminating Hager Clik roses and, even sounding like a castanet, which mine doesn't really, it's a cost effective bit of kit. There are too many choices of ferrules to stick to a single one and as you mentioned, it depends what is available, so I fit to size and not colour. If I was working 8 hours a day every day on panel wiring i might splash out but not many of us could justify the cost of your ones.
I have both Preciva crimp tools (hex and square) and have had no issues in the year that ihave been using them. They come with a box of ferrules and a soft case which is a huge bonus. I am sure the Wiha tool is far better quality but it comes at a price. Good review guys
Thanks for the feedback
Invested in one about a month ago! Best thing ever
I've been using a Cembre ferrule crimper for the last 15 years, upgraded to the Wiha 18 months ago as mine only went up to 10mm and having a 16mm on tap is bloody handy at times ... when it comes to tools .. buy once, cry once
Didn't know Cembre made a crimper! I think the only thing I have from them is a marking genius, I'll have to take a look.
@@anne_frank_ best crimping gear in the world id say .. huge selection of kit ...
Buy once cry once 😂
I was told, on a TE Connectivity course, that should only twist to restore the manufacturers lay of the cable and they you can normal achieve that by gently drawing the strands between finger and thumb.
Gary and Gordon two ferrule electricians on the lose !😁🐔
absolute unit of a ferrule
I wish they would make a tool that picked up and sorted your ferrules. For when you accidentally lift the box up without shutting the lid, throwing them all over the floor or the back of the van.
You are the best, guys. So much attention to details, just what I needed)
The final bit of crimping occurs when you tighten down the terminal screw. They tend not to look square or hexaganol after that treatment. The small sizes often goes completely flat. However, no matter, as the ferrule will have done its job by maintain excellent electrical contact with all those fine wires and protecting them from being partly cut through by the rotating terminal screw at the clamping point.
Personally, I think class 2 would also benefit from ferrules to contain the "strand spreading" under a screw terminal. Not such an issue with cage type terminals.
As someone has already mentioned in comments wiedmuller have been doing professional crimpers for years. Their quality were exceptional but lately have diminished.
I've now switched to facom so much better.
As a panel builder and wireman you can't beat them.
Problems in pcm control panels I’ve seen is square crimp in half moon lug. But worse is trouble shooting when wires are combined and crimped, would like the kick the lazy assembler in the nuts. I will mostly solder single wires when combining.
Weidmuller ferrule crimpers and Weidmuller cable strippers are the best hands down - try them and see ✌🏻🙌🏻
Defo I recommend weidmuller crimp 100s doing panel working
I've been using Weidmuller for years definitely worth the money, clean and spray a little wd40 on them now and then thay will last a long time ,pair I have now been going over 20years panel building
I bought the £12 eBay crimper. It included delivery and 1000 assorted ferrules. The Knipex version is virtually identical and retails at a local authorised dealer at £135+vat. Did an extensive wiring job with it and it worked perfecly throughout. Some branded stuff is just not worth the outlay.
might look the same, but doesn't feel the same! - just our opinion
You’ve missed entirely the very simple and clear point that’s been made - it did the job, and done at the price point of the consumer. It’s not about the feel is it? That isn’t of primary concern. Opinions are all well and good but if they’re born out of flogging and promoting someone’s product then the bias governing that opinion is all too evident.
wow - that's a lovely piece of kit, but I almost fell off my chair at the price!
Do you use ferrules on service entrance cables (such as in panel boards)? If yes, what type of ferrules should you use?
I've brought 2 versions of the Variocrimp by Wago. I purchased direct from Germany worked out much cheaper. Wago's are usually cheaper from Gemany too. If you're buying in bulk that is.
We’ll have to search one out
What was the supplier name? Could you please help me for the supplier company if you have their contacts?
It seems that 360° rotating crimping pliers does not have traditional force adjustment? Cannot adjust the crimping force?🤔
I recommend Preciva crimping tool 20 pounds doing a job
I agree
I have that one and it is defn good for the price tbh
i have 3 of them for crimp types I don't use often. they are pretty garbage quality, stiff mechanisms, poorly fitting jaws etc... fine for small amounts of work but if it's something you use every day hundreds of times a day get decent ones.
@@Savagetechie true
I suppose I'm definitely not great at judging quality as I only use them once in a while 😄
So did I and sent them back after trying some test crimps, the arm was loose, the mechanism was pants with poor adjustment, and it got sent back for a refund, then ordered a Wiha pair which were much better made
@@paulypyro ouch
I guess I got lucky with my Preciva ones lol
I would love to see your evaluation of trapezoidal crimpers and when they might be a better choice vs square. (E.g. Weidmuller PZ 4)
I would add that you should look around at the German/Austrian tool makes, in General they all make the same or similar things from each other. Some make for one another also. The Wiha in the video is also made by Gedore as part code 3416437 and for around £100 is it a great deal less than the Wiha crimper. Same tool, who makes for who, anyones guess.
Nice. There is a specialised ferrule crimper as you showed that there is a special jaw that fits into standard crimping pliers to crimp these Ferrules. Would you choose one over the other?
From my experience weildmuller crimpers and second to none in quality crimp and durability , I've been using the same one constantly for years thousands of crimps and no issues and feels the same since knew but are pricey but will last forever , only negative they only go to 4 sq typically
Thay do have larger size crimpers
The ocasional crimper observation is important! I believe durability and maintaining crimp quality over time costs a lot: I found ABB crimping pliers on e-bay, used, for around 1,000 dollars (including die set).
How much????
@@addygrubber5351 Should buy two at that price, what a steal lol.
At first I use Ferrules. But as the wire gauge gets thicker and thicker, Ferrules won't cut it.
In this episode, you showed us a Ferrule with HEX and SQUARE results. Any Ferrule crimpers that produces a "rectagular" head that best fits MCBs?
What terminal should be used when using 8mm² to 35mm² wires to be connected to MCBs?
THANKS!
What make/model is the wire stripper used @10:00 in the video?
It’s also Wiha - shop.tooltalk.com/products/wiha-automatic-stripping-tool-up-to-16mm?variant=36096291143843&Shoptimised+incremental&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_f7twrbE9AIVXIFQBh27JgOXEAQYAiABEgJdSPD_BwE
I love the remarks about some of the comments you have. Scary stuff….
Just a small note: The top end of this tool is not 16mm sq but 10mm sq Twin since 2x10 mm sq is more than 16mm sq :D Besides that little mistake, great review
How do you crimp 4mm2 ferrule with an 18mm pin length - my crimper is designed for a maximum 12mm pin length. Do you try and crimp twice along the length or will one 12 mm crimp suffice in the middle or at the pointed end?
Is it my color settings on my computer thats off or is it the recording? Seems way more briight red than usual.
Maybe time to go trough a rewire of the lighting in the studio? (Or the color settings on the camera/software if its on that end)
As a sidenote; This channel sure has gotten big on pushing the greatness of the Ferrule's and Wago's onto the people, Cant complain though, Been loving them 👍
You guys are so funny haha keep up the grate videos ⚡️⚡️
Sticking with my £130 knipex one as there is no need to upgrade to a new one!!!!
$180.00 vs $20.00 🤔
Well the $20 one works just fine...
Not spending that much for the same thing basically ya it better be built better for $180 but I'm good with the $20 pair... JS 🤑🤣💯👍
Skimming through the IPC books gathering dust at work they showed a sliver of conductor strands poking out of crimp terminals to be acceptable, or flush with the crimp barrel end. Recessed conductors inside the crimp barrel were a no-go. At the back of uninsulated terminals, they showed that a tiny gap should be visible (i.e. the crimp barrel should not butt up to the cable insulation). Why? I have no idea, but anything military, space, aviation, or high-end industrial has to adhere to these rules. Take this information with a huge bag of salt, I don't have a single IPC certification.
Great info
With a great wire cutter you can have an almost flat wire end. And with practice and goot setup, you can strip insulation that fits right in the ferrule. No need to trim the strands or anything else. Most appliances (MCBs, RCBs, outlets, etc) take more than the ferrule length so why bother with a few tenths of wire poking out? Seems like your military is extra pedantric on useless things.
I use the Knippex version. It would have been interesting if you also put the "on line" retailer up against the Wiha, I know what we all would buy,.. but one wonders why you didn't.. maybe you guys did off camera, and the results were better than expected? 😂😂
I have personal issues using ferrule colored differently than the color coding of the cable, like brown on green and yellow CYA... also, it is hard to get the correct color for the diameter
Where is the link to the information about twisting the bare wire and protruding of the wire on the ferrule end?
One more debate with some people on the twisting of the bare wire:
Should you worry about introducing contaminants when twisting the bare wire which can possibly corrode your wire and cause problems?
Here you go - goies.com/Weidmuller_Ferrules_White_Paper.pdf
In terms of contaminants it’s not an issue we’ve ever experienced.
Tnks 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
could you do a video on the best screwdriver for uk wiring accessories. cheers
I was thinking!⚠️ it would be a good idea to tin the bare ends with solder after crimping. 😳
Absolutely not, makes the termination much more susceptible to work hardening fractures
@@Simon350S What are you talking about, fractures where?
Solder tends to flow over time with screw connectors so isn’t allowed in UK regulations
@@efixx What do you mean by solder flow over time.
I have these Top tool 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Where can get such amazing tools
We’ve put a few links in the description
The writing covers the whole video😂
Ici on a donné un torsion de dix conducteurs pour les entrer dans la ferrule, on doit laisser les brins droits.
I do like the Wiha crimping tools but at £200 a pop, it's a no from me. I note there wasn't really any critical analysis of cheaper Amazon ones other than "it rattles a bit". I love the "any angle" of that new Wiha one, but I will make do with a Preciva on the grounds that I don't want to spend £200 to be able to crimp at any angle...
It is hard to justify $200 vs $25 crimper. No one denies that wiha is better, is the difference worth $175 dollars?
Any one got a Deligo multi crimper as seen on tv.
You didn't even show the crimp quality of the cheap crimper!
My Ex wife was a bit feral that's why I'm divorced
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knipex make a simlar one 97 53 18
Yes we’ve previously reviewed the Twistor
Ferrule off
I left a comment on this last week . Now it’s not hear why
Maybe my comments are no longer welcome 😭
We don’t delete comments
Queira um sextavado desse mais e muito caro kkk