Will never happen their technology is 30 years out of date and 20x more expensive than modern techology - forget the 2,500 years of dangerous waste it produces. - absolutly crazy thinking
@@Paulstracywootten dude, you are the one out of touch. You think investors would be coming their way for an old tech?. We have lots of patents under SMRs, it has been reported countless times that SA has been ahead and we don’t have banana engineers and scientists here we have world class leaders despite the challenges in our country. But it’s fine, since you are a prophet with Bushiri type of prophecies, we will wait and see if you are correct. But being all negative will never change some of our minds, that won’t happen… we read a lot some of us to fall for that.
Southern Africa has the potential to be one of the richest if not the richest part of the world. Unfortunately our political class are unable to grasp this
Didnt know this was a thing, but fits in nicely with my vision for SA. We have a large pool of IT talent here and AI will need both them and loads of power. IMO SA should host AI data centers and development. and excess power can be dumped into the grid or power local grids.
i spoke to an engineer in Australia last week who told me they are installing a few of these small reactors in America. one small unit the size of a aircon unit can power an entire suburb. very interesting
Have a think and leave the negativity alone. S.A. Has the people and the people with a will. The time is right for the people to take the country to its potential. Mr. Blom was also correct when he spoke about new tech that is being developed. Stay safe and keep the hope going.
Always makes good listening when you guys invite competent knowladgable people when it comes to such topics and not clueless politicians and journalists!
What a pity there wasn't the political hunger to just be the best, because knowing this was already well on its way 30y ago hurts my brain. Where are all the other BIG PICTURE thinkers to blow wind into the sails of something like this? Are they really so few and far between?
Politicians currently in the power position in SA don't want progressive solutions, they want to keep profiting from the natural resources that's in abundance in SA.
An excellent exposition, Kelvin. I have been won over. I had for a long while been skeptical. My skepticism was based on my observations of the developments surrounding the PBMR while I was an electrical engineer at NECSA. (I am retired now.) It now appears, to my satisfaction, that this greatly scaled-down version of the PBMR is much more technically feasible.
South Africa has had many important scientific breakthroughs and discoveries. I think we should 'listen carefully' to this Professor. He might have found a good way forward. I have been doing (amateur) research into Nuclear power for a long time. I think Nuclear is the only practical way to provide reliable base load power supply.
Great stuff, if our politicians could make it a habit to get advice from academia. SA would have been very far with less problems. We entertain a lot of political debates lacking scientific evidence.
SOUTH AFRICA HAD POTENTIAL 30 YEARS AGO. NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 5 YEARS FUTURE. CLEARLY, ONE STEP FORWARD....30 STEPS BACKWARDS ....NO WAY WILL THIS HAPPEN !!!!
There have been submarines that run on onboard nuclear energy for a few years. Why not use a nuclear submarine in each seaport of SA to power SA? How would the production cost compare?
Unfortunately here in Australia a first world country we cannot even manufacture motor cars. Hopefully we can import these reactors from South Africa a third world country
Great Podcast but did the Russians , Americans , French & British not have small "minituarized" reactors that where used to power Submarines, Boats & Aircraft Carriers etc !! ? ..... just asking !!?
Nuclear waist, have you looked at Netherlands vertical solar pannels, have you looked at water tidal power generation. What about geo thermal power generation, wind turbines. All has no radiation problems and cost like 1% of your uraniam. That will kill you.
South Africa has a significant number of brilliant people, and also sadly EX South AFricans (eg: Elon MUsk), who can make a plan and do amazing stuff. Unfortunately they are outnumbered by more politicians who are not only incompetent but steal MORE stuff the we can produce. Stuff being the operative word. With our current politicians we are totally stuffed.
This is quite funny to hear, about 30 years ago I knew a guy in Pretoria who was a Physicist, he worked for the South African Atomic Energy Corporation, I think it was called back then. His parents came from Holland but he grew up in South African and Matriculated form Afrikaans Hoer and attended Tukkies where he studied. He was gagged by orders but he mentioned that that they were working on new smaller reactors for electricity generation, but strangely enough he could talk for hours on how simple is is to build an ABomb, from his point of view of cause, but could not talk about electricity generation. I am not saying that the idea was born a long time ago, but it surely sound like it to me. I have no idea what happened to him, I left SA 2 years later, but for the right person I will share his name if anybody is interested, to find out if they were working on Pebble Reactors.
Shocking revelations have put the South African Road Accident Fund (RAF) under scrutiny, with a staggering R18 billion paid out to foreign claimants over the past five years, including some who were in the country illegally. As the fund's management faces criticism for straying from its original purpose, questions arise about its commitment to supporting local citizens injured in road accidents. With a backlog of 321,000 claims from South African citizens, the RAF's priorities are being called into question.
I think it would be interesting to see if SA might not express interest in the CANDU reactor design, given its simplicity and that any country with the industrial capacity to produce steel piping should be able to do it. No large specialized forging facilities for making a pressure vessel needed.
Tipical a thing from people who have no idea about elestricity thinking 300 years old and working the same as 300 years ago start learning that amps is used a hour and voltage is a costante this two are making watt.
Yes. The pepple bed project is helium nuclear reactors. There was one that needed approval, but it was rejected a few years back. The site, plans, everything was in order... the government rejected it. But I belive there are great need for it.
I think the conversation should be about what about investing in Nuclear Fusion. Nuclear energy is going to be a thing of the past. Nuclear fusion is the same process that powers stars like the sun. Scientists have been promising fusion energy as a new, clean source of power for decades without commercial success. And not as dangerous. The breakthrough came in December of 2022. This is the future
This technology is not new, it is decades old, why has it not been introduced? More money has been wasted and stolen than this project would need. Where is the resistance? As an interviewer, why are you asking such superficial questions?
@@fancyIOP because it is now focussing on becoming a source of "green" hydrogen, investing heavily. Also it has just secured a World Bank loan worth billions to expand the grid
The people involved was still employed by Escom in the 1990s. This project if you like has been going for a very long time...way more than 10 years. Closer to 30.
this DR is so far out of date with reality that its embarrasing listnening to him. lets take the indonesia story - HVDC is perfect to transport electricity over water - and the Reason Europe has addoped this technology. Nuclear power stations ate 20X more expensive to construct than renewable technology. plus they cost $0.02c per kwhr. it takes 7-10 years to install these dangerous waste producesers for over 2,500 years. SA has 820,000 sqkm of desert and semi desert- absolutlu ideal for renewables - and we only need 50 Sq km to replace the entire coal, and nuclea power plants in SA with a 50% head room. i chaleneg this so called outdated proffessor to a debate anytime!
Also how long does the panels last before we habe to replace it and where does all the waste go? Battery storage cost how much? Do we have enough natural resources to create those Batteries and how long before those need to be replaced?
😂You are too quick to answer, he’s talking about SMRs. I see you are part of the “greenies”. What he’s saying is true, he’s an engineer, he knows what he’s talking about which he has had experience of 30yrs not what he read about from a 1986 book like you did.
One of the great minds of SA, I can’t wait to see their work in existence all over SA and globally😇.
Will never happen their technology is 30 years out of date and 20x more expensive than modern techology - forget the 2,500 years of dangerous waste it produces. - absolutly crazy thinking
@@Paulstracywootten dude, you are the one out of touch. You think investors would be coming their way for an old tech?. We have lots of patents under SMRs, it has been reported countless times that SA has been ahead and we don’t have banana engineers and scientists here we have world class leaders despite the challenges in our country. But it’s fine, since you are a prophet with Bushiri type of prophecies, we will wait and see if you are correct. But being all negative will never change some of our minds, that won’t happen… we read a lot some of us to fall for that.
Southern Africa has the potential to be one of the richest if not the richest part of the world.
Unfortunately our political class are unable to grasp this
Make no mistake, once they do see it, they loot it.
🤣
Believe me they are grasping it, with both hands....
South Africa is The Country to follow. When the time is right. And support our country for all its people.
They grasp it very well. They are just trying to fathom how to capture it.
Didnt know this was a thing, but fits in nicely with my vision for SA. We have a large pool of IT talent here and AI will need both them and loads of power. IMO SA should host AI data centers and development. and excess power can be dumped into the grid or power local grids.
YES, AND ALSO GET RID OF "BEEEEE"....THEN MABYE !
i spoke to an engineer in Australia last week who told me they are installing a few of these small reactors in America. one small unit the size of a aircon unit can power an entire suburb. very interesting
Size of an Aircon? Con yes, nuclear power no.
very informative - thanks . A real pleasure to listen to a very competent person , after all the politicians
The old people who initiated Koeberg were the visionaries. Respect. Everything since is.a.joke.
No, this MPBR technology is ground breaking. Development was at pelindaba back in '70s and '80s
Cheap energy solutions are no joke.
Best of luck to the team! We believe in you!
Someone with the means and business savvy needs to invest in this amazing South African!
Better just lots of South Africans so the middle and poor can get dividens for there money
We need more people like this not foolish political people with no economic ambitions that sellout our best scientist to the world.
Have a think and leave the negativity alone. S.A. Has the people and the people with a will. The time is right for the people to take the country to its potential. Mr. Blom was also correct when he spoke about new tech that is being developed. Stay safe and keep the hope going.
You will need to export the numerous sa hungry kaders first .....
🤣🤣🤣
Always makes good listening when you guys invite competent knowladgable people when it comes to such topics and not clueless politicians and journalists!
Imagine if someone built a motor efficient enough to Ron on split water, how long would that person be allowed to live.
What a pity there wasn't the political hunger to just be the best, because knowing this was already well on its way 30y ago hurts my brain.
Where are all the other BIG PICTURE thinkers to blow wind into the sails of something like this? Are they really so few and far between?
Politicians currently in the power position in SA don't want progressive solutions, they want to keep profiting from the natural resources that's in abundance in SA.
As long as you exclude the prevailing political party, it might be doable.
An excellent exposition, Kelvin. I have been won over. I had for a long while been skeptical. My skepticism was based on my observations of the developments surrounding the PBMR while I was an electrical engineer at NECSA. (I am retired now.) It now appears, to my satisfaction, that this greatly scaled-down version of the PBMR is much more technically feasible.
South Africa has had many important scientific breakthroughs and discoveries. I think we should 'listen carefully' to this Professor. He might have found a good way forward.
I have been doing (amateur) research into Nuclear power for a long time. I think Nuclear is the only practical way to provide reliable base load power supply.
Great stuff, if our politicians could make it a habit to get advice from academia. SA would have been very far with less problems. We entertain a lot of political debates lacking scientific evidence.
SOUTH AFRICA HAD POTENTIAL 30 YEARS AGO.
NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 5 YEARS FUTURE.
CLEARLY, ONE STEP FORWARD....30 STEPS BACKWARDS ....NO WAY WILL THIS HAPPEN !!!!
This is the way to go!
The new powerstation is it based on the peble bed system developed in south Africa.
No, the pebble bed reactor developed in Germany.
Before they get money to build it it’s already stolen 😂
There have been submarines that run on onboard nuclear energy for a few years.
Why not use a nuclear submarine in each seaport of SA to power SA?
How would the production cost compare?
Is it possible to get a view how helium gas based cooling sy stem is safer than the molten salt cooling sy stem?
It's time to get the MPC members and the PA for live debate Alec.
What will the cost be of such a reactor? Why not mention it?
SA must become the Switland for BRIICKS
This is such old technology... They have been making submarines for decades that can stay underwater for years with the reactor even producing oxygen.
Unfortunately here in Australia a first world country we cannot even manufacture motor cars. Hopefully we can import these reactors from South Africa a third world country
SA not third world.
Great Podcast but did the Russians , Americans , French & British not have small "minituarized" reactors that where used to power Submarines, Boats & Aircraft Carriers etc !! ? ..... just asking !!?
Nuclear waist, have you looked at Netherlands vertical solar pannels, have you looked at water tidal power generation.
What about geo thermal power generation, wind turbines. All has no radiation problems and cost like 1% of your uraniam. That will kill you.
South Africa has a significant number of brilliant people, and also sadly EX South AFricans (eg: Elon MUsk), who can make a plan and do amazing stuff. Unfortunately they are outnumbered by more politicians who are not only incompetent but steal MORE stuff the we can produce. Stuff being the operative word. With our current politicians we are totally stuffed.
Very interesting presentation.
🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 Our people!
This is quite funny to hear, about 30 years ago I knew a guy in Pretoria who was a Physicist, he worked for the South African Atomic Energy Corporation, I think it was called back then. His parents came from Holland but he grew up in South African and Matriculated form Afrikaans Hoer and attended Tukkies where he studied. He was gagged by orders but he mentioned that that they were working on new smaller reactors for electricity generation, but strangely enough he could talk for hours on how simple is is to build an ABomb, from his point of view of cause, but could not talk about electricity generation. I am not saying that the idea was born a long time ago, but it surely sound like it to me. I have no idea what happened to him, I left SA 2 years later, but for the right person I will share his name if anybody is interested, to find out if they were working on Pebble Reactors.
The only thing South Africa has developed in regards to the PBNR is the world's most expensive PowerPoint presentation.
Built by who ?
The ANC caders ?
Shocking revelations have put the South African Road Accident Fund (RAF) under scrutiny, with a staggering R18 billion paid out to foreign claimants over the past five years, including some who were in the country illegally. As the fund's management faces criticism for straying from its original purpose, questions arise about its commitment to supporting local citizens injured in road accidents. With a backlog of 321,000 claims from South African citizens, the RAF's priorities are being called into question.
Dis nou erg.....SA is under siege
what is he talking about a clock time can be updated every second from any place
they call those things satelites
The fact of the matter is you will always need uranium to fuel the reactor compared to renewables. There is no energy silver bullet.
OK, I didn't watch the whole thing, but if they can build it WHY NOT USE IT HERE FIRST ffs?
Can SA keep a few reactors before they explore them?
I think it would be interesting to see if SA might not express interest in the CANDU reactor design, given its simplicity and that any country with the industrial capacity to produce steel piping should be able to do it. No large specialized forging facilities for making a pressure vessel needed.
What about the nuclear waste?
But we had small nuclear small power developed in SA years ago, sold to ? Or no money to keep tech going.
What happened to this?
Clever people can think for them self stupid people follow stupid people
And i am a very stupid person like a donkey i need to hit that rock 10 times
to remember it were a rock not a turtle
How fear of nuclear power is hurting the environment. ( Michael Shellenberger at TEDSummit )
Tipical a thing from people who have no idea about elestricity thinking 300 years old
and working the same as 300 years ago start learning that amps is used a hour
and voltage is a costante this two are making watt.
Watt? 😅
Export to where?Iran and friends?
Your website please
Use the pension funds to build these smr's, they will give the best return on investment while giving us a chance to grow our economy.
Is Elon Musk listening?
Good for electrical cars, less pollution.
Well done Kelvin! From your classmate in Standard 5. June Packham😅
Is he talking about pepple bed reactors?
Yes. The pepple bed project is helium nuclear reactors. There was one that needed approval, but it was rejected a few years back. The site, plans, everything was in order... the government rejected it. But I belive there are great need for it.
And bee,? How are they going to smudge this brain away?
Chernobyl, by default, also has wild animals around it.
I think the conversation should be about what about investing in Nuclear Fusion. Nuclear energy is going to be a thing of the past. Nuclear fusion is the same process that powers stars like the sun. Scientists have been promising fusion energy as a new, clean source of power for decades without commercial success. And not as dangerous. The breakthrough came in December of 2022. This is the future
Its great, but it's not ready yet
This extinction rebellion crowd are so tiresome.
What about Thorium, as a nuclear power as opposed to Uranium ❤
Been overexposed to thorium?
It's more expensive than uranium.
Suggestion for you. October ends ' song is goinna go viral. React to it and join tthey hype train!
If you think this country will be the same after 5 years you are living in a dream world , dream on .
Hopefully it will have less racists by then
❤❤❤
why not expoting wind from windhoek to europe?
you will have something like wind egs
Passionate, but I’m not sure practical.
This technology is not new, it is decades old, why has it not been introduced? More money has been wasted and stolen than this project would need. Where is the resistance? As an interviewer, why are you asking such superficial questions?
Dream on.
😂😂😂😂
😞😞😞 Namibia will never adopt this technology.
Why not?.
@@fancyIOP because it is now focussing on becoming a source of "green" hydrogen, investing heavily. Also it has just secured a World Bank loan worth billions to expand the grid
Try unobtanium, given your reigning sa context.
Get real man.
It is common cause (amoungst engineers) that it takes 10 years to certify a nuclear reactor. How is it possible to ship in 5 years.
It's rubbish.
Pls do some research before changing feet.
This has been going from the 1990's...
The people involved was still employed by Escom in the 1990s. This project if you like has been going for a very long time...way more than 10 years. Closer to 30.
this DR is so far out of date with reality that its embarrasing listnening to him.
lets take the indonesia story - HVDC is perfect to transport electricity over water - and the Reason Europe has addoped this technology.
Nuclear power stations ate 20X more expensive to construct than renewable technology. plus they cost $0.02c per kwhr. it takes 7-10 years to install these dangerous waste producesers for over 2,500 years.
SA has 820,000 sqkm of desert and semi desert- absolutlu ideal for renewables - and we only need 50 Sq km to replace the entire coal, and nuclea power plants in SA with a 50% head room.
i chaleneg this so called outdated proffessor to a debate anytime!
Make contact with biznews and set it up 😊
Do try to remember that for 12 hours per day there is no sun.....
50km2 of solar could be great in the middle of the day...whatcha gonna do an night??
Also how long does the panels last before we habe to replace it and where does all the waste go? Battery storage cost how much? Do we have enough natural resources to create those Batteries and how long before those need to be replaced?
😂You are too quick to answer, he’s talking about SMRs. I see you are part of the “greenies”. What he’s saying is true, he’s an engineer, he knows what he’s talking about which he has had experience of 30yrs not what he read about from a 1986 book like you did.
Hahahahaha. Another joke please...
What about Thorium, as a nuclear power as opposed to Uranium ❤
This reactor is flexible and can take basically anything.
It's more expensive.
What about Thorium, as a nuclear power as opposed to Uranium ❤