I just somehow stumbled on this video, loved it, did not understand anything, bought the game. Played for 2 hours, returned to this video and in 19 minutes I am going! Great job, to the point, quickly, without too much ballast :)
I can't listen to you at full normal talking speed at all, but moving you to 0.75 made this all a lot more interesting to watch cause I could properly pay attention and enjoy. Really interesting stuff - never seen anything like this before!
The update that released this morning fixes the Synchroscope breaker being auto-closed on startup. It's supposed to be open before you sync. Otherwise, you'll blow the City's grid and get a warning message
Some people I know invited me to watch the startup of a 1960's 100MW gas turbine generator. Ten gas turbines driving a single generator, It seemed like a good idea at that time. This was a periodic test, it is only occasionally used for peak loading. It had one old school synchronizers with spinning needle. Fun to watch. They said the test cost $10,000 in fuel.
The amount of Fuel which gets burned in Power Stations is quiete impressive. I live near a Coal Power Plant, which Burns around 80000 metric Tons of lignite every day. Thats Just a little Bit under 1 Ton per second, or about two truckloads while you read this. To scrape the lignite Out of the earth, some of the largest, self moving Machines ever built are digging 24/7 through the Ground. If the Mining ends, it will take decades to flood the hole, creating the third largest Lake in Germany- If someone Figures Out where we can get about 2 Billion m3 of Water 😂
@@walterbishop2 I used to travel from US to Germany on a freighter testing LM2500 for the navy. Engine room had a mechanical counter for barrels of bunker C. It would just go click, click, click. Down in the stern they had two rings on the propeller drive shaft separated by 3 feet. They how much the shaft twisted to determine the torque. That was a big shaft!
This is the startup video. The file runs normally on my computer. Somehow it ended up sideways when loaded on YT. ua-cam.com/video/0Q9YJJ97WqM/v-deo.html
As a physics phd student I started watching your videos, and I must say that I have absolutely loved your content for a while now. Amazing tutorials for such a niche community ! Keep up the great work.
@@Zlonk7 The frequency was not quite matched (48 Hz vs 51 Hz), and the generator voltage was about 2000 volts lower than it should have been. The synchroscope appears to run at 1/10 the speed it actually would for gameplay purposes (especially as the difficulty setting is on Easy), as the sync light should be spinning around at 3Hz. With a mismatched frequency, even if the breaker was closed in at the in-phase point, the grid would inflict a lot of torque on the generator to bring it up to speed, so much torque that it could literally twist a very heavy generator structure off of its mountings, or at least damage it through the resulting stresses. With a generator voltage too low, the grid treats the generator like a motor to drive, and the sudden influx of power (until the generator voltage comes up) can cause arcing and damaging of the generator's electrical components. You have to match the generator frequencies closely by changing the turbine speed to typically less than 1Hz, and the voltage has to match. The "excitation voltage" control shown is how the voltage is adjusted. Big electrical generators use an electromagnet in its rotor to generate and control the magnetic field that the main electrical power is generated from. By changing the voltage powering that magnet (excitation voltage), you can change the voltage output of the generator independent of its speed. Only once frequency, phase, and voltage is closely matched can you close the breaker without damaging your generator or blacking out the city.
I hope you said good bye to your turbine-generator-set. Synchronised with 41 hz would have killed it. I know your synchronoscope said your run slightly fast and was at 12 o’clock but that’s just wrong. Your turbine ist just at 2500 rpm roughly while the grid turns with 3000 rpm. This is an immense force that your machine have to swallow when pulled in the grid with 500 rpm difference. Technically the Synchro-device compares the speeds of your turbine with the grid. Is your rpm slightly over 3000 it says too fast and if your turbines turns slower then 3000 it says too slow. You can close the generator switch in both directions but it’s necessary to know what happens in both cases. Too slow and your generator consumes energy from the grid until it reached 3000 rpm (runs like a motor), too fast and your machine need to slow down by feed more energy into the grid (for a really short period of time) which is most times the better option, because in real life there are plenty of safety mechanisms for preventing running as a motor in the grid instead as a generator.
Good video explaining everything, but I think you went a little fast hopping back and forth between the stations as you were telling how and what you were doing. Still better than not knowing what to do in the first place. I haven't gotten past day two yet without something major happening :)
Thanks for the video! I do have one problem though, my generator keeps overproducing power, even so much so that my resistor banks can't keep up and I have to set the bypass at like 60%. Do you know how to fix this?
The grid frequency of 51Hz is actually pretty accurate for the real grid, in low load the grid will be high on frequency and on a heavily loaded grid it will be slightly low. That is used in plants as a control cue to open or close the turbine inlet valves to reach a 'target' of 50Hz. Too fast means less heat demand and too slow means more heat demand, which acts as a throttle for the entire plant. "Generator load" logic really isn't accurate yet, when the generators produce voltage it will only cause current (and power) to flow once some component is demanding it. In real life, there is no electrical power that you need to dump somewhere, if there is no load on the plant, the turbine is either bypassed or out of the steam circuit and you only need to dump thermal energy through the condenser. But I can understand why they designed it this way for gameplay reasons.
My grid is 60hz here.. I noticed I can't 'speed' up the turbine to give more load to the grid, only vent steam by? My turbine would sync at 3600rpm, then raise load to make like 10MW at 4050rpm of load. *in real life
Excellent video, I love the enthusiasm, I am still wildly overwhelmed by this game and regularly break everything in my plant, but hey, it's all part of the fun right?
Oh man I was so mad at how the turbines used to be set up. I operate actual reactors and got the rest of the start up just fine until i started the turbine.just suddenly making power while I am off grid and no throttle. Still not great but its way better than before
nice tutorial, can you maybe think about to create a tutorial for add more steam generator and how to handle them? I mean, how to handle a full equiped Reaktor room with all upgrades?
Nice new features, still weirdly... fake. like if someone heard about them and doesn't know WHY those things look like that. Synchro scope does one rotation per second *per 1Hz differance*. Or how game still shows power like around 5000KW, but you generate 300MWh energy per hour so the numbers on those displays are 60 times too small as you don't build 5MW nuclear reactors.
I just somehow stumbled on this video, loved it, did not understand anything, bought the game.
Played for 2 hours, returned to this video and in 19 minutes I am going!
Great job, to the point, quickly, without too much ballast :)
I can't listen to you at full normal talking speed at all, but moving you to 0.75 made this all a lot more interesting to watch cause I could properly pay attention and enjoy. Really interesting stuff - never seen anything like this before!
The update that released this morning fixes the Synchroscope breaker being auto-closed on startup. It's supposed to be open before you sync. Otherwise, you'll blow the City's grid and get a warning message
Some people I know invited me to watch the startup of a 1960's 100MW gas turbine generator. Ten gas turbines driving a single generator, It seemed like a good idea at that time. This was a periodic test, it is only occasionally used for peak loading. It had one old school synchronizers with spinning needle. Fun to watch. They said the test cost $10,000 in fuel.
The amount of Fuel which gets burned in Power Stations is quiete impressive. I live near a Coal Power Plant, which Burns around 80000 metric Tons of lignite every day. Thats Just a little Bit under 1 Ton per second, or about two truckloads while you read this. To scrape the lignite Out of the earth, some of the largest, self moving Machines ever built are digging 24/7 through the Ground. If the Mining ends, it will take decades to flood the hole, creating the third largest Lake in Germany- If someone Figures Out where we can get about 2 Billion m3 of Water 😂
@@walterbishop2 I used to travel from US to Germany on a freighter testing LM2500 for the navy. Engine room had a mechanical counter for barrels of bunker C. It would just go click, click, click. Down in the stern they had two rings on the propeller drive shaft separated by 3 feet. They how much the shaft twisted to determine the torque. That was a big shaft!
This is the startup video. The file runs normally on my computer. Somehow it ended up sideways when loaded on YT. ua-cam.com/video/0Q9YJJ97WqM/v-deo.html
As a physics phd student I started watching your videos, and I must say that I have absolutely loved your content for a while now. Amazing tutorials for such a niche community ! Keep up the great work.
Thanks for this. I love how the "Objectives" in the game are nothing even remotely resembling an operating manual or checklist.
FYI you didn't actually synchronize that correctly, but the game is pretty forgiving.
What was the problem?
@@Zlonk7 There wasn't 87 pages of paperwork to be filled out and 17 safety briefings
@@Zlonk7 The frequency was not quite matched (48 Hz vs 51 Hz), and the generator voltage was about 2000 volts lower than it should have been. The synchroscope appears to run at 1/10 the speed it actually would for gameplay purposes (especially as the difficulty setting is on Easy), as the sync light should be spinning around at 3Hz. With a mismatched frequency, even if the breaker was closed in at the in-phase point, the grid would inflict a lot of torque on the generator to bring it up to speed, so much torque that it could literally twist a very heavy generator structure off of its mountings, or at least damage it through the resulting stresses. With a generator voltage too low, the grid treats the generator like a motor to drive, and the sudden influx of power (until the generator voltage comes up) can cause arcing and damaging of the generator's electrical components.
You have to match the generator frequencies closely by changing the turbine speed to typically less than 1Hz, and the voltage has to match. The "excitation voltage" control shown is how the voltage is adjusted. Big electrical generators use an electromagnet in its rotor to generate and control the magnetic field that the main electrical power is generated from. By changing the voltage powering that magnet (excitation voltage), you can change the voltage output of the generator independent of its speed. Only once frequency, phase, and voltage is closely matched can you close the breaker without damaging your generator or blacking out the city.
@@eddievhfan1984 thanks for the info
I hope you said good bye to your turbine-generator-set. Synchronised with 41 hz would have killed it. I know your synchronoscope said your run slightly fast and was at 12 o’clock but that’s just wrong.
Your turbine ist just at 2500 rpm roughly while the grid turns with 3000 rpm. This is an immense force that your machine have to swallow when pulled in the grid with 500 rpm difference.
Technically the Synchro-device compares the speeds of your turbine with the grid. Is your rpm slightly over 3000 it says too fast and if your turbines turns slower then 3000 it says too slow.
You can close the generator switch in both directions but it’s necessary to know what happens in both cases. Too slow and your generator consumes energy from the grid until it reached 3000 rpm (runs like a motor), too fast and your machine need to slow down by feed more energy into the grid (for a really short period of time) which is most times the better option, because in real life there are plenty of safety mechanisms for preventing running as a motor in the grid instead as a generator.
Good video explaining everything, but I think you went a little fast hopping back and forth between the stations as you were telling how and what you were doing. Still better than not knowing what to do in the first place. I haven't gotten past day two yet without something major happening :)
I also enjoyed the video but wished he would slow down for us slow people. lol
Thanks for the video! I do have one problem though, my generator keeps overproducing power, even so much so that my resistor banks can't keep up and I have to set the bypass at like 60%. Do you know how to fix this?
Loved the muse reference 😂
Patiently awaiting your next explaining video. Just if you don't mind, bring down the pace so I can keep up :P
Great video!
Its crazy that this 15 dollar game is still not as realistic as a Roblox game and just implemented turbine synchronization.
which game?
@@evanwatling3897 Realistic boiling water reactor
The grid frequency of 51Hz is actually pretty accurate for the real grid, in low load the grid will be high on frequency and on a heavily loaded grid it will be slightly low. That is used in plants as a control cue to open or close the turbine inlet valves to reach a 'target' of 50Hz. Too fast means less heat demand and too slow means more heat demand, which acts as a throttle for the entire plant.
"Generator load" logic really isn't accurate yet, when the generators produce voltage it will only cause current (and power) to flow once some component is demanding it. In real life, there is no electrical power that you need to dump somewhere, if there is no load on the plant, the turbine is either bypassed or out of the steam circuit and you only need to dump thermal energy through the condenser. But I can understand why they designed it this way for gameplay reasons.
My grid is 60hz here.. I noticed I can't 'speed' up the turbine to give more load to the grid, only vent steam by? My turbine would sync at 3600rpm, then raise load to make like 10MW at 4050rpm of load. *in real life
Excellent video, I love the enthusiasm, I am still wildly overwhelmed by this game and regularly break everything in my plant, but hey, it's all part of the fun right?
do you think the actual directer of a actualy nuke plant would have a cardiac event form the things protrayed in this game and what people do?
They'd have a cardiac arrest from just the fact that the control room is next to the reactor 😂
Oh man I was so mad at how the turbines used to be set up. I operate actual reactors and got the rest of the start up just fine until i started the turbine.just suddenly making power while I am off grid and no throttle. Still not great but its way better than before
this VR would be sick!
nice tutorial, can you maybe think about to create a tutorial for add more steam generator and how to handle them? I mean, how to handle a full equiped Reaktor room with all upgrades?
Each time my turbine breaks, what am I doing wrong? everything is within operational parameters...
can you get a meldt down in this game and what will happen ??
Does it come with the water bird toy like Homer Simpson?
A video that is titled "reactor startup" but has the startup sequence unexplained and in fast mode isn't great.
What is the name of this hame
the game is called "Nucleares" and is on steam
Nucleares
Nice new features, still weirdly... fake. like if someone heard about them and doesn't know WHY those things look like that.
Synchro scope does one rotation per second *per 1Hz differance*.
Or how game still shows power like around 5000KW, but you generate 300MWh energy per hour so the numbers on those displays are 60 times too small as you don't build 5MW nuclear reactors.
xD Don't worry guys, it's just Nuclear engineering.. Warning's are normal
wrong pump button when u pressed to switch off the pump when it was running dry,
kind of a thing like that
bob barker went to 99 just under $1.00
nuclear physics student who likes Muse here 🙏
man..... do a toturial where you explain what you do. what the button does....... i did not get shit from this.