Why are you drip-feeding these video clips? Just post the whole talk like every other institution of any credible reputation does. Why play the gatekeeper role, especially given the context surrounding the two speakers? Weird.
The other day i clicked on a destiny video covering zizek out of curiosity and he immediately put it on 1.5 speed and i am honestly surprised by how much it improves my conprehension of what zizek is saying.
I love that Yanis makes the point about Obama/Trump. I have said this out loud to so many people but in the US everyone has such short memories. There are more connections between Trump and Obama as well. One of them being that Obama was a larger than life personality cultivated "from within" the party machine. Trump was a larger than life personality cultivated "from without". It took the first to pave the way for the second, in so many respects.
Nader described Obama perfectly. A corporate centrist with no regard for the working person. Like every president from the last two years of Carter, basically right wingers protecting the wealthy and instituting austerity for the working person.
This is happening in Brazil, the alliance with capitalists who are agreeable to the change in mode of production and support revolutionary media and so on, look up Eduardo Moreira
Why have largely Hispanic counties in South Texas and the California Central Valley overwhelming have supported trump? As someone from the California Central Valley, I can tell you the horrors of our open borders policies with Mexico is felt directly and bluntly by the people of my home region. The drugs brought in by the Mexican drug cartels has devastated an entire generation both white and Hispanic, the mass immigration, the the instability, the fear of knowing violent psychopathic drug cartels that control large parts of the southern border are just a dimes throw away from us etc. also most Hispanics here in south Texas and the California Central Valley aren’t immigrants but are +3rd,4th,5th generation so the anti-immigrant stuff doesn’t bother them, why should it?
Sad to hear. Why not trying the more difficult path and offer an economic and life style perspective to all young people, which might be a game changer in this conflict. Education by not practicing false patriotism with saluting the flag daily, but talk about the hoax of the "American dream". Money doesn't buy wealth !
The billionaires may avoid talking about the climate crisis issue, but they sure are manipulating democracy as if we were just minutes from systemic collapse, like who would do anything to stop them? nobody
sadly i fear parties got the opposite thing and are moving more to the right already as it happened with reagan and Thatcher just that this cycle around we have not enough resources to have a third cycle with the common retrograde amnesia that everyone has regarding this lesson, when the third time comes around rationing policies will already be a necessity as mark fisher wrote
I suggest that Zizek and Varoufakis need to take a SLEEPING PILL , while Trump plays his FOUR years of CAPITALISM 🙂( and then they can come back and start 'pontificate' again in 2028 🙂)
I agree with both of these guys however I believe they’re underestimating the power of propaganda in the post-truth society. They’re extremely knowledgeable themselves and that’s biased their views on what has influenced the average Joe in America (especially MAGAs), the bias being that they think the people were making semi-educated decisions whereas I argue that they based their decisions almost purely on populism and the media talking points within the Overton Window.
"Trump woke up in the middle of the night and stopped a US navy attack on Teheran"...Trump was the one that gave the order to attack 😂. If Yanis had even half of Bernie's political intuition, Mera25 wouldn't be out of Parliament.
Comparing USA political things and Greek ones is literally the stupidest thing i have ever read in yt. Political scene and how a party gets to be in the pariliament is pretty different in these two countries. One is an imperialist country, the mother of capitalism and a world power (i guess still the first one until the dolar falls off) and the other is a small country with no power enough to even be independent.
@@REd-ru5ce well it's a good thing literally no one is comparing the two then. I'm saying Varoufakis' understanding of how to build a political movement in any country, be it Greece or US is shit.
@@Alexed.w Well, movements usualy are not built by a politician or even a political party. On the contrary, Parties should be built by movements. In this case parties can have ties to the rest of society and not being cut off, like it is happenng thought USA history. Also, mera25 in Greece was never a huge party. Even when it was in the parliament it only had small numbers. What they were saying from the stance was against the local oligarchs who own the media, who own the oil and ships and the distribution of energy and who own even the teams. No wonder they never appear in the biggest media channels. Also, Varoufakis alone was thown so much dirt on 2015 which was based on stupidly false propaganda. Ofc he did mistakes. Also one thing, you have to understand that you actually did compare two different situations. A political persons actions are in accordance to the political field hes playing on. Bernie is playing in the USA political scene and Varoufakis in a completly different. Ofc their actions cant really be compared without putting them in context.
I'm surprised they both still respect Bernie Sanders 😂 Bro ended up squandering his own movement, telling his supporters they should vote for the very people that robbed him (twice) instead and turned into a clown 😂 Edit: Yanis seems to think this was merely a "mistake" by Bernie. I'd argue that it was not. The fact that he allowed himself to be robbed and sidelined twice, regardless of having a massive progressive following, and the fact that he extracted zero concessions from the Democratic Party in return for sheepdogging all that progressive support into them, suggests that Sanders was always a ruse. Sanders' political insignificance and flacidity today can largely be attributed to the progressive movement figuring him out and having these very same suspicions. He squandered a prime opportunity to coalesce a real rainbow movement behind him and eventually those who initially looked to Bernie, moved on to Trump, who actually looked to have strength and political courage.
What on Earth are you on bro. How can man be a ruse and be a public figure and elected politican with a populist/socialist platform for like 50 years or smh.
@@planettrax9754 he's a ruse because when he had a serious opportunity to become president and enact his espoused social democracy policies but he somehow lacked the courage of his convictions and asked his supporters to go against their principles twice... was my first post not clear as to why he was a ruse? 😂
@@scroopynooperz9051 If you think giving up your spot for another person from your own party in an electoral process is chickening out you don't know what politics is. Don't get me wrong I despise the decisions taken by the Democratic party and they were indeed done in a criminal manner just like Yanis described. But it is very naive to assume they were done out of a secret plan masterminded by Bernie to sell out all the left-leaning Dems electorate. He was pressured just like any other politician in the world that isn't backed by the millions of dollars that someone like Clinton or Biden had. He made a choice and confronted with fracturing the party or electing Trump he went with the safe option. As much as he is popular he is not backed by billionaires which would mean he would be obliterated in number of TV spots, advertising, rallies, etc. Also that country has zero left-wing political tradition and if he were to start a new party that would be easily obliterated by the 2-party system. In fact the populist wing of the Dems has already been destroyed when Clinton centrists decided the Democratic party should be more aligned to the right. His story of national recognition and a good shot at becoming president unfortunately happened in a post-Obama era at the same time that Trump did - if it were other times, maybe he would be the name from the Dems, who knows. Also cut the man some slack, dude is like 900 years old or smth
@@scroopynooperz9051 If you think giving up your spot for another person from your own party in an electoral process is chickening out you don't know what politics is. Don't get me wrong I despise the decisions taken by the Democratic party and they were indeed done in a criminal manner just like Yanis described. But it is very naive to assume they were done out of a secret plan masterminded by Bernie to sell out all the left-leaning Dems electorate. He was pressured just like any other politician in the world that isn't backed by the millions of dollars that someone like Clinton or Biden had. He made a choice and confronted with fracturing the party or electing Trump he went with the safe option. As much as he is popular he is not backed by billionaires which would mean he would be obliterated in number of TV spots, advertising, rallies, etc. Also that country has zero left-wing political tradition and if he were to start a new party that would be easily obliterated by the 2-party system. In fact the populist wing of the Dems has already been destroyed when Clinton centrists decided the Democratic party should be more aligned to the right. His story of national recognition and a good shot at becoming president unfortunately happened in a post-Obama era at the same time that Trump did - if it were other times, maybe he would be the name from the Dems, who knows. Also cut the man some slack, dude is like 900 years old or smth
Varoufakis started to talk about Amazon and Zizek couldnt wait to change the subject. Why? Because Zizek is not against the form but against the content of Amazon.
zizek is exactly right about trump as fetish object, the displacement of and repression of the real primal scene of the political, which is class struggle
@@adnausi Uh huh. Is that supposed to impress me? Am I supposed to bend the knee at their profundity that deals in commonplace falsehoods and shallow opinion of American politicts? I'm really profoundly disappointed in them. A lot of other thinkers can make the claim to deep analysis, so that doesn't distinguish them anyway. Have you ever seen thought critiqued by other first rate philosophers? It's never too charitable because stakes are incredibly high.
These guys still think Marxism is real, when it was disproven shortly after it was developed by Marx and abandoned by Lenin and Stalin and pretty much every other vanguardist movement. Then Zizek waxes on about Lacan and the Frankfurt School which are quite far from orthodox Marxism and never produced a single stable state. Meanwhile, Social Democracy ran for decade after decade as the solution while these people dawdled in their faculty offices and had chummy conversations about establishing gulags. And then they sit here repeating bad internet rumors about policy in the Social Democratic West and in the U.S. as if they are serious conclusions, because who cares about little details like facts when they are armed with their tattered theory! They don't have an empirical bone in their bodies and it shows. Not only this, Zizek keeps yapping how he's such a Hegelian. What the hell does that have to do with dialectical materialism? Marx copied Hegel's form but substituted the content and it was absolutely critical to adopt materialism for Marxism to be true. And yet here's Zizek saying he's a communist but adopting the reformed theology of Hegel? Zizek is a mess I cannot figure out why anyone cares what he thinks. In fact nobody who matters cares.
This dog-like devotion to the Palestinian issue is really showing, we're seeing here a promotion campaign for the Palestinian people, no matter what. Instead we have to ask ourselves and they (Janis and Slavoi) themselves, if their view of and sympathy for this topic isn't worth to become balanced by a MORE factual approach. Claiming innocence for anyone is just ridiculous.
only one side commits cri es agai st humanity every day, Israel. so your "balance" requirements are out of place and exhibit ignorance. pls stop. learn the history of the pa,Estonian struggle and then say whatever you want. but learn first the truth.
Why are you drip-feeding these video clips? Just post the whole talk like every other institution of any credible reputation does. Why play the gatekeeper role, especially given the context surrounding the two speakers? Weird.
They are milking Slavoj of all people for more ad revenue.
YT Algorithm favors 15-30min
@@Nicholas_Bonato but he's a commie
$$$$$$
Why is that an issue?
The other day i clicked on a destiny video covering zizek out of curiosity and he immediately put it on 1.5 speed and i am honestly surprised by how much it improves my conprehension of what zizek is saying.
It mitigates the impediment nicely!
I can feel the energetic comaradarie between these two. Lovely talk, in the middle of Varoufakis' book atm
Which one?
I love that Yanis makes the point about Obama/Trump. I have said this out loud to so many people but in the US everyone has such short memories. There are more connections between Trump and Obama as well. One of them being that Obama was a larger than life personality cultivated "from within" the party machine. Trump was a larger than life personality cultivated "from without". It took the first to pave the way for the second, in so many respects.
Nader described Obama perfectly. A corporate centrist with no regard for the working person. Like every president from the last two years of Carter, basically right wingers protecting the wealthy and instituting austerity for the working person.
Yall really slow-rolling the release on these. :(
Links to the unlisted parts 3 and 4 are in the description.
@@er... THANK YOU! I really appreciate you sharing that with me.
@@peteryankowsky 👍
Slavoj is still full of energy.
Two
interesting
people.
Thanks for
Sharing it.
why would you make this video unlisted? nobody is going to find it like this
It's at the first video's description somehow that's how I found it.
some of us will.
i did
the algorithm brought me here
Links to the unlisted parts 3 and 4 are in the description.
It goes on...
Why are these vids unlisted
you know why.....
A man hears what he wants to hear and siregards the rest - Paul Simon 'The Boxer' a long time ago
This is happening in Brazil, the alliance with capitalists who are agreeable to the change in mode of production and support revolutionary media and so on, look up Eduardo Moreira
Why have largely Hispanic counties in South Texas and the California Central Valley overwhelming have supported trump? As someone from the California Central Valley, I can tell you the horrors of our open borders policies with Mexico is felt directly and bluntly by the people of my home region. The drugs brought in by the Mexican drug cartels has devastated an entire generation both white and Hispanic, the mass immigration, the the instability, the fear of knowing violent psychopathic drug cartels that control large parts of the southern border are just a dimes throw away from us etc. also most Hispanics here in south Texas and the California Central Valley aren’t immigrants but are +3rd,4th,5th generation so the anti-immigrant stuff doesn’t bother them, why should it?
Sad to hear. Why not trying the more difficult path and offer an economic and life style perspective to all young people, which might be a game changer in this conflict.
Education by not practicing false patriotism with saluting the flag daily, but talk about the hoax of the "American dream".
Money doesn't buy wealth !
im much more interested in how you stumbled upon a philosophy video
Don’t forget Hispanics supported Bernie, and support economically populist ideas. Just look at who’s running Mexico
Jill stein. How rich.
I would like that £300 Billion spent on remigration. Thank you for asking.
On Freeloader Culture, False Flag- & Friendly Fire- Operations
The billionaires may avoid talking about the climate crisis issue, but they sure are manipulating democracy as if we were just minutes from systemic collapse, like who would do anything to stop them? nobody
sadly i fear parties got the opposite thing and are moving more to the right already as it happened with reagan and Thatcher just that this cycle around we have not enough resources to have a third cycle with the common retrograde amnesia that everyone has regarding this lesson, when the third time comes around rationing policies will already be a necessity as mark fisher wrote
slavoj is the real hawk tuah confirmed 13:23
I had to rewind
Pretty annoying that this whole thing isn’t just one video
I see no problem with Bernie’s instinct to focus on the “negative” whiny side of Leftism
2:37 freudian slip?
I suggest that Zizek and Varoufakis need to take a SLEEPING PILL , while Trump plays his FOUR years of CAPITALISM 🙂( and then they can come back and start 'pontificate' again in 2028 🙂)
I agree with both of these guys however I believe they’re underestimating the power of propaganda in the post-truth society. They’re extremely knowledgeable themselves and that’s biased their views on what has influenced the average Joe in America (especially MAGAs), the bias being that they think the people were making semi-educated decisions whereas I argue that they based their decisions almost purely on populism and the media talking points within the Overton Window.
I LOVE BOTH ❤
"Trump woke up in the middle of the night and stopped a US navy attack on Teheran"...Trump was the one that gave the order to attack 😂. If Yanis had even half of Bernie's political intuition, Mera25 wouldn't be out of Parliament.
Billionaires buy legislation. You fix that first.
Comparing USA political things and Greek ones is literally the stupidest thing i have ever read in yt. Political scene and how a party gets to be in the pariliament is pretty different in these two countries. One is an imperialist country, the mother of capitalism and a world power (i guess still the first one until the dolar falls off) and the other is a small country with no power enough to even be independent.
@@REd-ru5ce well it's a good thing literally no one is comparing the two then. I'm saying Varoufakis' understanding of how to build a political movement in any country, be it Greece or US is shit.
@@Alexed.w Well, movements usualy are not built by a politician or even a political party. On the contrary, Parties should be built by movements. In this case parties can have ties to the rest of society and not being cut off, like it is happenng thought USA history.
Also, mera25 in Greece was never a huge party. Even when it was in the parliament it only had small numbers. What they were saying from the stance was against the local oligarchs who own the media, who own the oil and ships and the distribution of energy and who own even the teams. No wonder they never appear in the biggest media channels. Also, Varoufakis alone was thown so much dirt on 2015 which was based on stupidly false propaganda. Ofc he did mistakes.
Also one thing, you have to understand that you actually did compare two different situations. A political persons actions are in accordance to the political field hes playing on. Bernie is playing in the USA political scene and Varoufakis in a completly different. Ofc their actions cant really be compared without putting them in context.
Yapping
The greens were the third party, and they clearly said what needs to be done.
I'm surprised they both still respect Bernie Sanders 😂
Bro ended up squandering his own movement, telling his supporters they should vote for the very people that robbed him (twice) instead and turned into a clown 😂
Edit: Yanis seems to think this was merely a "mistake" by Bernie. I'd argue that it was not. The fact that he allowed himself to be robbed and sidelined twice, regardless of having a massive progressive following, and the fact that he extracted zero concessions from the Democratic Party in return for sheepdogging all that progressive support into them, suggests that Sanders was always a ruse.
Sanders' political insignificance and flacidity today can largely be attributed to the progressive movement figuring him out and having these very same suspicions.
He squandered a prime opportunity to coalesce a real rainbow movement behind him and eventually those who initially looked to Bernie, moved on to Trump, who actually looked to have strength and political courage.
What on Earth are you on bro. How can man be a ruse and be a public figure and elected politican with a populist/socialist platform for like 50 years or smh.
Reformists get so used to making excuses for each other they lose all sense of shame eventually
@@planettrax9754 he's a ruse because when he had a serious opportunity to become president and enact his espoused social democracy policies but he somehow lacked the courage of his convictions and asked his supporters to go against their principles twice... was my first post not clear as to why he was a ruse? 😂
@@scroopynooperz9051 If you think giving up your spot for another person from your own party in an electoral process is chickening out you don't know what politics is. Don't get me wrong I despise the decisions taken by the Democratic party and they were indeed done in a criminal manner just like Yanis described. But it is very naive to assume they were done out of a secret plan masterminded by Bernie to sell out all the left-leaning Dems electorate. He was pressured just like any other politician in the world that isn't backed by the millions of dollars that someone like Clinton or Biden had. He made a choice and confronted with fracturing the party or electing Trump he went with the safe option. As much as he is popular he is not backed by billionaires which would mean he would be obliterated in number of TV spots, advertising, rallies, etc. Also that country has zero left-wing political tradition and if he were to start a new party that would be easily obliterated by the 2-party system. In fact the populist wing of the Dems has already been destroyed when Clinton centrists decided the Democratic party should be more aligned to the right. His story of national recognition and a good shot at becoming president unfortunately happened in a post-Obama era at the same time that Trump did - if it were other times, maybe he would be the name from the Dems, who knows. Also cut the man some slack, dude is like 900 years old or smth
@@scroopynooperz9051 If you think giving up your spot for another person from your own party in an electoral process is chickening out you don't know what politics is. Don't get me wrong I despise the decisions taken by the Democratic party and they were indeed done in a criminal manner just like Yanis described. But it is very naive to assume they were done out of a secret plan masterminded by Bernie to sell out all the left-leaning Dems electorate. He was pressured just like any other politician in the world that isn't backed by the millions of dollars that someone like Clinton or Biden had. He made a choice and confronted with fracturing the party or electing Trump he went with the safe option. As much as he is popular he is not backed by billionaires which would mean he would be obliterated in number of TV spots, advertising, rallies, etc. Also that country has zero left-wing political tradition and if he were to start a new party that would be easily obliterated by the 2-party system. In fact the populist wing of the Dems has already been destroyed when Clinton centrists decided the Democratic party should be more aligned to the right. His story of national recognition and a good shot at becoming president unfortunately happened in a post-Obama era at the same time that Trump did - if it were other times, maybe he would be the name from the Dems, who knows. Also cut the man some slack, dude is like 900 years old or smth
Why does Varoufakis come across as such a snake to me? He seems to ooze insincerity.
Varoufakis started to talk about Amazon and Zizek couldnt wait to change the subject. Why? Because Zizek is not against the form but against the content of Amazon.
What?
@ime499 Zizek's theoretical background does not allow him to be against the form of Amazon.
@@ime4991 hahahaha do you even expect a reasonable answer? Bro its yt here, everyone says whatever shit is in his head.
@@dillegitante why
@@REd-ru5ceeho knows
zizek is exactly right about trump as fetish object, the displacement of and repression of the real primal scene of the political, which is class struggle
These guys a spewing so many half-baked ideas and dropping so many myths and context-free pretend facts it is almost unwatchable. This is not serious.
Every word they said was rooted in deep analysis.
@@adnausi Uh huh. Is that supposed to impress me? Am I supposed to bend the knee at their profundity that deals in commonplace falsehoods and shallow opinion of American politicts? I'm really profoundly disappointed in them. A lot of other thinkers can make the claim to deep analysis, so that doesn't distinguish them anyway. Have you ever seen thought critiqued by other first rate philosophers? It's never too charitable because stakes are incredibly high.
These guys still think Marxism is real, when it was disproven shortly after it was developed by Marx and abandoned by Lenin and Stalin and pretty much every other vanguardist movement. Then Zizek waxes on about Lacan and the Frankfurt School which are quite far from orthodox Marxism and never produced a single stable state. Meanwhile, Social Democracy ran for decade after decade as the solution while these people dawdled in their faculty offices and had chummy conversations about establishing gulags. And then they sit here repeating bad internet rumors about policy in the Social Democratic West and in the U.S. as if they are serious conclusions, because who cares about little details like facts when they are armed with their tattered theory! They don't have an empirical bone in their bodies and it shows.
Not only this, Zizek keeps yapping how he's such a Hegelian. What the hell does that have to do with dialectical materialism? Marx copied Hegel's form but substituted the content and it was absolutely critical to adopt materialism for Marxism to be true. And yet here's Zizek saying he's a communist but adopting the reformed theology of Hegel? Zizek is a mess I cannot figure out why anyone cares what he thinks. In fact nobody who matters cares.
do some reading.
I think you need to read a few more books before you can say things that anyone will take seriously.
This dog-like devotion to the Palestinian issue is really showing, we're seeing here a promotion campaign for the Palestinian people, no matter what. Instead we have to ask ourselves and they (Janis and Slavoi) themselves, if their view of and sympathy for this topic isn't worth to become balanced by a MORE factual approach. Claiming innocence for anyone is just ridiculous.
only one side commits cri es agai st humanity every day, Israel.
so your "balance" requirements are out of place and exhibit ignorance.
pls stop.
learn the history of the pa,Estonian struggle and then say whatever you want.
but learn first the truth.
LOL
What an impotent coversation.
How impotent everyday Americans