"I carry my flag for my country. I carry my flag for the love of man. I bleed my knees for [love of] man, for the horrible things I did in Vietnam. I want man to find a better solution than death and killing. Can you honestly say I don't love my country, just 'cause I want to find a better solution than killing and hate? I want man to love and live. Bring all men back, find something better than war. What is it that makes a man love his country, to try and find a better solution than war? I don't know about the communist party or the nazis, I'm a human being! And I don't want to kill anyone, I want to find a better solution than hate in our country!" ~An anguished Vietnam Vet
@@Ivan_StandWithUkraine That's your take away? These young men were told they were fighting for Democracy in SE Asia. I'm more inclined to believe the veterans who were there than some keyboard warrior such as yourself. Then Congress and public opinion tied the hands of the military. Meanwhile, the MIC profited from the war and the CIA played their little games behind the scenes running guns and drugs! Don't be such a sap!
This is real as real has it gets, they were protesting for the war, my dad's younger brother was in the army and in the Vietnam. Lots of people hated it. Thanks for sharing this video Mr hoffman film maker.🎞️🎥🥺
My deepest respect to him and all Americans who don't won't to participate in war's. Actually, thanks to everyone who against this way of moneymaking. "War is just a racket" Smedley D. Butler
This is why I have always been in support of vets, but never the military. War is abominable. It sickens me that we still use the murder of other human beings to decide the outcome of conflicts between nations and further sickens me that we call soldiers heroes for bringing death to other humans.
It will be that way until the end of time. People want to kill you, so you must kill them. Protecting the rights of others, fighting the forces of communism, and all that. It's one thing to protest a war and the government, but spitting on those who wanted to fight for freedom ain't no better.
I remember that everyone we knew was affected by the war in Vietnam. Friends, family, everyone in the neighborhood lost someone. And there was such a divide between my parents generation and my grandparents. And the damage done to the psyche of those who made it home. I was just a baby, but I remember my father just missed his best friend Joe on leave by 3 days. I remember seeing my Uncle Joe in my grandmothers kitchen, before he went back. And it was devastating when we learned he was KIA a few weeks later. My stepdad had flashbacks and nightmares his entire life and would wake up screaming years later. They were so young. There has to be a better way!
@Jami Nova... Thanks, you for sharing your memories with us as sad as they are and the sacrifices your family went through. I pray for the day Peace will come to your stepdad and all who served in Vietnam and are still fighting that war.
What are you doing here? You are a conservative, the GOP has passed laws that let people run over protesters with their cars. You would have been in the National Guard at Kent state.......
I look back at the many different types and ages of people who came together to make their common desire for peace heard. Those were powerful times for ordinary people, and we believed we could change the world. Today in America I see so much division and vitriol, and I wonder how it is that ordinary people have become so polarized and disempowered that they no longer believe they even HAVE a common voice. Thank you David, I remember this time, and the reaction to American students being gunned down on American soil by American Army Reserves. So much changed that day. May this coming New Year lead people back to a saner kind of discourse, and a remembrance that we have more in common as humans than the things we let divide us.🖤🇨🇦
I just got Medically Discharged from the Army. The Army in it’s current state is terrible. Instead of a MRI and figuring out what was wrong they said will just get you out all treatment has failed. Yes I also wanted out because it was either that or i killed my self on a Range Day. I can understand how it feels be thrown away, to seem and treated as a disposable conscript. But at the same time I can see the people only voting to contribute to the problem. I know why I served. But I always asked my self what else is there to serve for? Why should I even serve? I can do the same by being with my family. Nothing is worth saving or worth dying for. I wish history didn’t have to repeat it self. I never though I would have more in common with Vietnam Veterans then any other generation. I am not conserving suicide just simply speaking the truth.
@@NotOnDrugs Trust me I have dead friends too. I joined at 22 and most of my friends were fresh out of high school. The War on Terror was basically over and most of dying was caused by suicide by the terrible leadership, new policies and regulations. My new fight is for reform and hopefully be part of something to save this country. It’s one thing to serve and to see your oath go from meeting something to becoming irrelevant. It’s another thing to see the country you swore to protect slowly fade away.
Can't go out like that. You'll be hurting your loved ones. Use your experience n pain to better the situation even if it'd not for yourself than for others . You mean something . You can't just giv. Look e up . 🙏🙏 look into alternate medicine. Maybe research DMT , mushrooms . We have to do our own work be responsible for ourselves because the system does not care , doctors follow flow charts that are written by the pharmaceuticals instead of fixing the initial issue . Politicians are ALL looking to line their pockets at whatever cost and they are getting bolder and bolder about it
@@gusc6785 I am not suicidal. But I cannot deny that it would have been a easy choice to make and to act upon while I was still in. If you can’t understand why it is so easy to talk about. It’s because you aren’t in now or gotten in out in the last 5 years. Not trying to insult or anything just what it is
@@NLYS27 thank you for speaking your truth. That takes a lot of courage. It also takes a lot of courage just to keep on living sometimes. One day at a time, please keep on. Your perspective is so valuable. I admire you for speaking up and telling us how it is in the Army.
To NLYS27 -- as one left behind to deal with a suicide of a son. Please get what help you need. But don't harm yourself..... The saying may seem hokie, but still true. Suicide permeant solution for temporary problem.
I understand. Always. Still. Then and now. I protested the Vietnam War then - while volunteering my time to put together “gift packs” for the soldiers fighting in that horrible, unnecessary war. 💕
@@madashell7224 I never understood that, and certainly never saw it where I lived. I was a Navy kid living in a Navy town and always cared about the soldiers.
As you know David each Vietnam Veteran alive, or decease has their own thoughts and feeling about the Vietnam war and the protesters on the streets and on college campuses. I respect those who served in Vietnam like David Christian and Bill Ehrhart that you have feature here on your channel and those who protested the wrongness of that war as long as they did it peacefully. I know there are those Vietnam Veterans and Vietnam Nurses who have and are still fighting that war 20. 30, 40, 50. years later after coming home. thanks David Hoffman.
As you mention in your description this protest took place one week after the National Guard shot live ammunition into the crowed of unarmed college students at Kent State University May 4th, 1970, the names below are the 4 college students who lost their lives on that day. Jeffrey Glenn Miller March 28, 1950 - May 4, 1970 Allison B. Krause April 23, 1951 - May 4, 1970 William Knox Schroeder July 20, 1950 - May 4, 1970 Sandra Lee Scheuer August 11, 1949 - May 4, 1970
Sorry David. Couldn’t watch the whole thing. I remember it all too well. This, the TV reports, the body bags coming home, Johnson as President and profiting off the war, the Hanoi Hilton, Jane Fonda, and vets fresh from the war sitting in my college classroom getting spit on. There were no good sides then.
did i see pete seeger? I demonstrated by cutting pieces of paper with the words ‘johnson moordenaar’ and put them on the washing line with pegs. the police came right away and i spent the day in a police station. I walked along with the demonstrations against the vietnam war in amsterdam.
Hi, David, another very interesting and full of sense video material on your channel. I believe, that those were the times, that did change the whole world for good. Even though not immediately and not necessarily for the better. In my country, Bulgaria, women nowadays enjoy big freedom from traditional work in the villages. But only in the past 20-30 years of freedom from communist oppression, mainly after our joining the European Union. This sort of came late for us. Communists did some things, which were good here, but also did wrong deeds all the way up untill 1989, and later. So, the results are now being: freedom for the sexes, but many of our families died. The latter I mention here, their endings, being caused mostly by all the crimes and corruption our national post-communism mafia committed and organised. And today this channel also comes to remind me of the times we had before communism ended in my country, Bulgaria. And shortly after it ended - when we still had illusions about both America and Russia. Now, with broken families, free of illusions about who is more noble - communists or capitalists, East or West, Antifa or Bulgarian national ultras - freedom is good, but it is also a lonely, and sometimes empty time. So, your little films take me as if back to the part of me and my family I have lost. May God bless you, David Hoffman filmmaker and all people around you, who have meaning! 🌟🎄
He never said that they were the only group there that day. Read the description box. He said he thought that the Black Panthers were the most violently attacked that day because they were perceived as threatening.
@@joannego856 I did read the whole description. "After the march, a few hundred militants spread through surrounding streets, causing limited damage. Police attacked the most threatening crowds (as I remember, these were Black Panther Party protesters) with tear gas and made a number of arrests." Many of us were there that day. I lived right next to DC and attended innumerable marches through the years. There were a lot of threatening groups. NOT just the Panthers. I was asking him to elaborate on what the Panthers were doing. Mr. Hoffman couldn't be everywhere. We were scattered all over and saw a lot of violence from the police and protesters of every age and color.
@@TheLisab56 No offense intended. I just thought that he did clearly state which group(s) he saw the police attacking. Your perspective and memories are valuable. Thanks for sharing.
Young people should have more respect for “boomers”. They didn’t protest for likes on social media, they did so despite the rest of the nation being against them because they felt it was right and that they needed to fight for change.
If this is Jan 1973 Nixons second Inauguration then I was there as a 11th grader with a NYS peace group/ old style Dems. Took babysitting money to fund my bus seat. Parents let me go to DC
He should have never been in Vietnam. Recently I have spoken with Vietnam Vets and they do not share this man sentiment at all. They actually know a lot of inside details as they were Officers.
Not all of them, but I hear that a number of officers there were notorious for getting their men killed; to the point where there were at least several incidents of said officers being killed by their own units.
I was thinkingI haven't seen anything from David Hoffman on my feed for a while so had to go and look. Damn what a powerful video to stumble upon. Very appropriate for our current times considering the conflict in Ukraine. If anyone think thats a justified war and not a proxy war created by the sates the same as what they did in Iran, Afghanistan, Ethiopia and countless other countries then you need to take a step back and educate yourself on the matter outside from the mainstream media. PEACE
"I carry my flag for my country. I carry my flag for the love of man. I bleed my knees for [love of] man, for the horrible things I did in Vietnam. I want man to find a better solution than death and killing. Can you honestly say I don't love my country, just 'cause I want to find a better solution than killing and hate? I want man to love and live. Bring all men back, find something better than war. What is it that makes a man love his country, to try and find a better solution than war? I don't know about the communist party or the nazis, I'm a human being! And I don't want to kill anyone, I want to find a better solution than hate in our country!" ~An anguished Vietnam Vet
Grazie amico.
Love that poor guy who was a vet and turned against military solutions. Stop war. Let the generals and presidents work it out. Thanks David
The fortunate sons never have to fight. No one should have to go to war during peacetime, just to have a chance at a better life.
@@bwackbeedows3629 "I ain't no fortunate one" CCR. Great song. Good point.
They did work it out, and look what happened.
Thank you so much for the support Paul.
David Hoffman filmmaker
“I don’t want to kill anyone. I want to find a better way. “
Or rather «I don't want to protect anyone».
@@Ivan_StandWithUkraine That's your take away? These young men were told they were fighting for Democracy in SE Asia. I'm more inclined to believe the veterans who were there than some keyboard warrior such as yourself. Then Congress and public opinion tied the hands of the military. Meanwhile, the MIC profited from the war and the CIA played their little games behind the scenes running guns and drugs! Don't be such a sap!
This is real as real has it gets, they were protesting for the war, my dad's younger brother was in the army and in the Vietnam. Lots of people hated it. Thanks for sharing this video Mr hoffman film maker.🎞️🎥🥺
That looks painful! Thank you David. ❤
Not as painful as what he saw and did in Vietnam. That’s the whole point of his protest.
@@mesalouis8976 Yes, of course, none of that is lost on me. It still looks painful.
@@knelson3484 yes.
My deepest respect to him and all Americans who don't won't to participate in war's. Actually, thanks to everyone who against this way of moneymaking.
"War is just a racket" Smedley D. Butler
This hits on another level. Intense
every war is a banker's war
This is why I have always been in support of vets, but never the military. War is abominable. It sickens me that we still use the murder of other human beings to decide the outcome of conflicts between nations and further sickens me that we call soldiers heroes for bringing death to other humans.
It will be that way until the end of time. People want to kill you, so you must kill them. Protecting the rights of others, fighting the forces of communism, and all that. It's one thing to protest a war and the government, but spitting on those who wanted to fight for freedom ain't no better.
@@agingerbeardWorld War II is the only one people ever bring up lol
Thank you very kindly for all you've shared
💔💔💔 Remember Nam like it was yesterday 😥😫😭💔💔💔
All the best for you.
@@donflobert1762 Thank you
I remember that everyone we knew was affected by the war in Vietnam. Friends, family, everyone in the neighborhood lost someone. And there was such a divide between my parents generation and my grandparents. And the damage done to the psyche of those who made it home. I was just a baby, but I remember my father just missed his best friend Joe on leave by 3 days. I remember seeing my Uncle Joe in my grandmothers kitchen, before he went back. And it was devastating when we learned he was KIA a few weeks later. My stepdad had flashbacks and nightmares his entire life and would wake up screaming years later. They were so young. There has to be a better way!
@Jami Nova... Thanks, you for sharing your memories with us as sad as they are and the sacrifices your family went through. I pray for the day Peace will come to your stepdad and all who served in Vietnam and are still fighting that war.
What are you doing here?
You are a conservative, the GOP has passed laws that let people run over protesters with their cars.
You would have been in the National Guard at Kent state.......
@@drewpall2598 Thank You!
@@jaminova_1969 Stepdad? Where's your real dad?
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Complimenti per i documenti che pubblica signor Hoffman.
I look back at the many different types and ages of people who came together to make their common desire for peace heard. Those were powerful times for ordinary people, and we believed we could change the world.
Today in America I see so much division and vitriol, and I wonder how it is that ordinary people have become so polarized and disempowered that they no longer believe they even HAVE a common voice.
Thank you David, I remember this time, and the reaction to American students being gunned down on American soil by American Army Reserves. So much changed that day. May this coming New Year lead people back to a saner kind of discourse, and a remembrance that we have more in common as humans than the things we let divide us.🖤🇨🇦
War never changes.
Wow what a powerful message
I just got Medically Discharged from the Army. The Army in it’s current state is terrible. Instead of a MRI and figuring out what was wrong they said will just get you out all treatment has failed. Yes I also wanted out because it was either that or i killed my self on a Range Day. I can understand how it feels be thrown away, to seem and treated as a disposable conscript. But at the same time I can see the people only voting to contribute to the problem. I know why I served. But I always asked my self what else is there to serve for? Why should I even serve? I can do the same by being with my family. Nothing is worth saving or worth dying for. I wish history didn’t have to repeat it self. I never though I would have more in common with Vietnam Veterans then any other generation. I am not conserving suicide just simply speaking the truth.
@@NotOnDrugs Trust me I have dead friends too. I joined at 22 and most of my friends were fresh out of high school. The War on Terror was basically over and most of dying was caused by suicide by the terrible leadership, new policies and regulations. My new fight is for reform and hopefully be part of something to save this country. It’s one thing to serve and to see your oath go from meeting something to becoming irrelevant. It’s another thing to see the country you swore to protect slowly fade away.
Can't go out like that. You'll be hurting your loved ones. Use your experience n pain to better the situation even if it'd not for yourself than for others . You mean something . You can't just giv. Look e up . 🙏🙏 look into alternate medicine. Maybe research DMT , mushrooms . We have to do our own work be responsible for ourselves because the system does not care , doctors follow flow charts that are written by the pharmaceuticals instead of fixing the initial issue . Politicians are ALL looking to line their pockets at whatever cost and they are getting bolder and bolder about it
@@gusc6785 I am not suicidal. But I cannot deny that it would have been a easy choice to make and to act upon while I was still in. If you can’t understand why it is so easy to talk about. It’s because you aren’t in now or gotten in out in the last 5 years. Not trying to insult or anything just what it is
@@NLYS27 thank you for speaking your truth. That takes a lot of courage. It also takes a lot of courage just to keep on living sometimes. One day at a time, please keep on. Your perspective is so valuable. I admire you for speaking up and telling us how it is in the Army.
To NLYS27 -- as one left behind to deal with a suicide of a son. Please get what help you need. But don't harm yourself..... The saying may seem hokie, but still true. Suicide permeant solution for temporary problem.
War does many things that cannot be unseen.
I understand. Always. Still. Then and now. I protested the Vietnam War then - while volunteering my time to put together “gift packs” for the soldiers fighting in that horrible, unnecessary war. 💕
@@madashell7224 I never understood that, and certainly never saw it where I lived. I was a Navy kid living in a Navy town and always cared about the soldiers.
Si comprende molto bene che il veterano era un uomo angosciato. ☮️
As you know David each Vietnam Veteran alive, or decease has their own thoughts and feeling about the Vietnam war and the protesters on the streets and on college campuses. I respect those who served in Vietnam like David Christian and Bill Ehrhart that you have feature here on your channel and those who protested the wrongness of that war as long as they did it peacefully. I know there are those Vietnam Veterans and Vietnam Nurses who have and are still fighting that war 20. 30, 40, 50. years later after coming home. thanks David Hoffman.
As you mention in your description this protest took place one week after the National Guard shot live ammunition into the crowed of unarmed college students at Kent State University May 4th, 1970, the names below are the 4 college students who lost their lives on that day.
Jeffrey Glenn Miller March 28, 1950 - May 4, 1970
Allison B. Krause April 23, 1951 - May 4, 1970
William Knox Schroeder July 20, 1950 - May 4, 1970
Sandra Lee Scheuer August 11, 1949 - May 4, 1970
God bless him
If only future politicians heard these men and took them serious. Our brutal foreign policy wouldn’t be what it is.
Sorry David. Couldn’t watch the whole thing. I remember it all too well. This, the TV reports, the body bags coming home, Johnson as President and profiting off the war, the Hanoi Hilton, Jane Fonda, and vets fresh from the war sitting in my college classroom getting spit on. There were no good sides then.
HIStory…HERstory…OURstory…
Was thinking he'd be like Cotton Hill.
did i see pete seeger? I demonstrated by cutting pieces of paper with the words ‘johnson moordenaar’ and put them on the washing line with pegs. the police came right away and i spent the day in a police station. I walked along with the demonstrations against the vietnam war in amsterdam.
You did.
David Hoffman filmmaker
Back when the left was anti-war.
What kind of camera did you use back then?
16mm Auricon Pro.
David Hoffman Filmmaker
Did you do any filming of the 1968 DNC in Chicago ?
I did not. But the cameramen who were there did an amazing job.
David Hoffman filmmaker
who is that man what's his story
How did this generation grow up to then send my generation to war? What went wrong?
Hi, David, another very interesting and full of sense video material on your channel. I believe, that those were the times, that did change the whole world for good. Even though not immediately and not necessarily for the better. In my country, Bulgaria, women nowadays enjoy big freedom from traditional work in the villages. But only in the past 20-30 years of freedom from communist oppression, mainly after our joining the European Union. This sort of came late for us. Communists did some things, which were good here, but also did wrong deeds all the way up untill 1989, and later. So, the results are now being: freedom for the sexes, but many of our families died. The latter I mention here, their endings, being caused mostly by all the crimes and corruption our national post-communism mafia committed and organised. And today this channel also comes to remind me of the times we had before communism ended in my country, Bulgaria. And shortly after it ended - when we still had illusions about both America and Russia. Now, with broken families, free of illusions about who is more noble - communists or capitalists, East or West, Antifa or Bulgarian national ultras - freedom is good, but it is also a lonely, and sometimes empty time. So, your little films take me as if back to the part of me and my family I have lost. May God bless you, David Hoffman filmmaker and all people around you, who have meaning! 🌟🎄
What was it that Mohamed Ali said after he got thrown in jail for refusing draft service for the veitnam war?
A brave man it needs to have balls to do this kinda stuff
Mr. Hoffman. Please elaborate. I do not remember that it was solely the Black Panthers. There were many other groups there.
He never said that they were the only group there that day. Read the description box. He said he thought that the Black Panthers were the most violently attacked that day because they were perceived as threatening.
@@joannego856 I did read the whole description. "After the march, a few hundred militants spread through surrounding streets, causing limited damage. Police attacked the most threatening crowds (as I remember, these were Black Panther Party protesters) with tear gas and made a number of arrests." Many of us were there that day. I lived right next to DC and attended innumerable marches through the years. There were a lot of threatening groups. NOT just the Panthers. I was asking him to elaborate on what the Panthers were doing. Mr. Hoffman couldn't be everywhere. We were scattered all over and saw a lot of violence from the police and protesters of every age and color.
@@TheLisab56 No offense intended. I just thought that he did clearly state which group(s) he saw the police attacking. Your perspective and memories are valuable. Thanks for sharing.
@@joannego856 None taken.☮
Did he have a permit(s)???
...things more onerous now!!
today, we still get suckered into war. ukraine smh
Young people should have more respect for “boomers”. They didn’t protest for likes on social media, they did so despite the rest of the nation being against them because they felt it was right and that they needed to fight for change.
Looks like Andy Kaufman
Just say NO
If this is Jan 1973 Nixons second Inauguration then I was there as a 11th grader with a NYS peace group/ old style Dems. Took babysitting money to fund my bus seat. Parents let me go to DC
It seems Russia has become the new Vietnam.
He should have never been in Vietnam.
Recently I have spoken with Vietnam Vets and they do not share this man sentiment at all. They actually know a lot of inside details as they were Officers.
Not all of them, but I hear that a number of officers there were notorious for getting their men killed; to the point where there were at least several incidents of said officers being killed by their own units.
I was thinkingI haven't seen anything from David Hoffman on my feed for a while so had to go and look. Damn what a powerful video to stumble upon.
Very appropriate for our current times considering the conflict in Ukraine. If anyone think thats a justified war and not a proxy war created by the sates the same as what they did in Iran, Afghanistan, Ethiopia and countless other countries then you need to take a step back and educate yourself on the matter outside from the mainstream media. PEACE