I was working in the garage, this morning, working on rebuilding an old window fan. I used some Loctite for reassembly. After it cured I realized that I had left off a collet and had to disassemble. Thanks to you I knew how to do that! Thank you so much for the education! God Bless you and your whole family.
Another nicely done bit. When I know I will be needing to do some silver soldering, I try to plan ahead so that I can wait for a time when my wife will be gone for a few hours. While watching the painting with deep concentration I had a thought hit that I might do if I were ever to build one of these machines. Picture the oil tank with a little area not yet painted. Now staged below the unpainted area I picture a very little figurine in overalls with a paint roller on a wee pole, all in tribute to the opening of early episodes of Red Dwarf. I need therapy. Or a beer. Or a beer with a therapist.
Brass can be nice, but it is difficult to clean in that location and it is out of context for this full size engine installation .... hence painting it the same colour as the engine . . . .
I gotta hand it to you keith! The amount of videoes you are currently making is staggering,also fun to hear your life story in 4 minutes.also love the steam clinic page.keep up the good work.i hope you found this coment useful!
On using a drill chuck for holding milling cutters: I had tried that on occasion and what I found is that when using a spiral cutter it creates a downward force on the chuck which can pull the chuck off its taper mount.
I had one experience with a cutter pulling out. It was on a CNC mill, the cutter partially pulled the chuck down against the part being milled, then tried to move sideways. My Boss was not impressed, but he was the one who said to use it.
Sorry to go into expert mode here but the main reason milling with a drill chuck is frowned upon is because of the morse or Jacobs taper coming loose with side loads but your milling machine is r8 taper and I can't imagine that drill chuck coming off the arbour any time soon so I think your quite alright with the way you do things! Wonderful video!
Hi Keith. I might have to go look at the Blackgates website for this pump, I've been looking for a very very small pump to fit to one of my Wilesco portable marine plants, the smaller the better realy as there's not very much space to go around. Thanks for using your fingers as a comparision.
Sir, You say you always doit wrong and put too much silver solder on a joint to show how not to do it. I was wondering if the next time you have to silver solder more than one joint on the same type of piece , or number of pieces if you might consider doing one or two in the case of multiple pieces, the "Right" way so us neophytes might get a glimpse of someone whoknows what they're doing, doing it? Thanks.
Mr Appleton may I ask was the use of brass in the tank construction a necessity or could steel have been used? the reason I'm asking is because I thought the unpainted tank was an absolute work of art and I was just curious if you painted it for function or personal preference I figure the latter but in either case a beautiful job none the less
it is a piece of standard 1 inch square brass oil tank material as used in small mechanical lubricators. I bought it from Blackgates Engineering at the same time as the pump.
If you were to make another one of these, would you make all the holes first so no swath resides in the tank after you tap all the mounting holes? How did you lean the current tank so nothing gums up the works?
In the video I show a large hole in the top of the tank - under the end of the pump where the pickup pipe goes in. The pipe is 5/32" and the hole is one Imperial drill size larger :-)))
Hi, i have never tried to silver solder. Do you think the ends could be soft soldered instead? Keep up the good Work, i am always looking forward to see your videos?
Hello Keith! I was wondering how the pressure equalizes inside the tank as you pump the oil out. Are you fitting the feed pipe with a seal? Since you haven't put any holes into the tank wall I am afraid you'll create a vacuum inside that works against you. Greetings from Germany!
In the video I show a large hole in the top of the tank - under the end of the pump where the pickup pipe goes in. The pipe is 5/32" and the hole is one Imperial drill size larger :-)))
Not a complaint or criticism, I think I would have drilled and tapped the holes for the pump mount before soldering the end caps. I would not like to have any chips of brass inside the tank.
it is a piece of standard 1 inch square brass oil tank material as used in small mechanical lubricators. I bought it from Blackgates Engineering at the same time as the pump.
Why are you not brazing instead of silver soldering . Ive always worked on larger masheens could never afford these model engines . Maybe now im close to 50 i might get time and be able to get some of these . Nice job on the oil pump tidy little job
Keith Appleton im still not really clear on the difrences wouldent a model just do less work but still be able to do work. Sorry im about to start building an engine model size withe the intent of using it to drive a rotisserie over a fire that both provide the cooking heat and the heating for the boiler its a verry small power requirement so i thaught a "model" engine would do the work
Hi Keith -- I would suggest you put your Patreon & PayPal links in the description as 'boilerplate'. I had to hunt around for them. I think if you are asking for cash to help out, please make it easy for us in return. No, not saying your begging, you make good videos so I think it reasonable for a few bucks a month.
There is a Link to Patreon at the end of the video .... but I will put a link at the front - I forgot - too much editing so far today - 2 videos ......
Like your video's very much. But would is be possible to very shortly explain what the part does or is when you mention it, i.e. a crossbar?? I'm not an expert, and often don't have a clue what you are making.... Maybe I am immune to the steam jargon? Still like watching though :-).
@@keithappleton Keith, that is true. But a clear varnish coat would keep the brass from tarnishing. The pump is beautiful. I love your videos as they are quite informative.
G'day Keith the patreon sub is better how you are going to do it monthly, I would like to increase my annual contribution when it runs out. I personally get a lot out of your videos Keith and if I was to buy DVD's of a similar content it would be a hell of a lot more! This oiler has given me an idea thanks mate and the backing music is really peace full, great!! Regards John
in all honesty, i would have fitted the pump first. those chips from the taped holes would bother me. they might not actualy do anything inside..but i would KNOW they are in there from tapping the holes. i get pretty irked by such things.
I was working in the garage, this morning, working on rebuilding an old window fan. I used some Loctite for reassembly. After it cured I realized that I had left off a collet and had to disassemble. Thanks to you I knew how to do that! Thank you so much for the education! God Bless you and your whole family.
Another nicely done bit. When I know I will be needing to do some silver soldering, I try to plan ahead so that I can wait for a time when my wife will be gone for a few hours.
While watching the painting with deep concentration I had a thought hit that I might do if I were ever to build one of these machines. Picture the oil tank with a little area not yet painted. Now staged below the unpainted area I picture a very little figurine in overalls with a paint roller on a wee pole, all in tribute to the opening of early episodes of Red Dwarf.
I need therapy. Or a beer. Or a beer with a therapist.
I can’t believe you painted the brass. Brass is beautiful.
Brass can be nice, but it is difficult to clean in that location and it is out of context for this full size engine installation .... hence painting it the same colour as the engine . . . .
I gotta hand it to you keith! The amount of videoes you are currently making is staggering,also fun to hear your life story in 4 minutes.also love the steam clinic page.keep up the good work.i hope you found this coment useful!
Keith I really enjoy your videos and your sense of humor please keep up the good work
I don't really mind watching you paint but I love your music. Excellent craftsmanship.
Hi Keith have just started setting up my 3 1/2 inch gauge Tich using information from your video,s and all has gone well, Thanks Nigel Cox.
I like the oil pump/reservoir... a nice idea
That pump is going to look very smart on the engine.
Great video!
Nice video! What machine do you find to be the handiest?
All of them have their uses for specific jobs }:-)))
I see you're a fan of climb milling, it makes a nice finish.
On using a drill chuck for holding milling cutters: I had tried that on occasion and what I found is that when using a spiral cutter it creates a downward force on the chuck which can pull the chuck off its taper mount.
This one is on an R8 Taper with a long drawbar through the centre of the spindle that firmly holds it in place . . . .
Same here, except the chuck is attached to an R8 adapter with a Jacobs taper.
Do you use Loctite 603?
But yes, that is good information about what to avoid when using a drill chuck for holding a milling cutter.
I had one experience with a cutter pulling out. It was on a CNC mill, the cutter partially pulled the chuck down against the part being milled, then tried to move sideways. My Boss was not impressed, but he was the one who said to use it.
Sorry to go into expert mode here but the main reason milling with a drill chuck is frowned upon is because of the morse or Jacobs taper coming loose with side loads but your milling machine is r8 taper and I can't imagine that drill chuck coming off the arbour any time soon so I think your quite alright with the way you do things! Wonderful video!
Oh and I forgot, I just remembered that I also fitted the chuck to its taper with Loctite 603 :-)))))
Keith Appleton so your probably safer than Most of the imported ER collet chucks then !
Yes this ancient Jacobs chuck seems pretty bulletproof - I really must but some metric collets for my Clarkson though .....
Hi Keith. I might have to go look at the Blackgates website for this pump, I've been looking for a very very small pump to fit to one of my Wilesco portable marine plants, the smaller the better realy as there's not very much space to go around. Thanks for using your fingers as a comparision.
This pump is a perfect size for Mamod or Wilesco steam engines :-)))
On plumbing fittings a quick wipe with a wet rag on the hot solder cleans the new joint some I wonder will that work on a silver solder joint?
only up to a point before the rag bursts into flames :-))))
I love those litle machine parts, (art pieces) .
Great videos as usual. Thank you.
Sir, You say you always doit wrong and put too much silver solder on a joint to show how not to do it. I was wondering if the next time you have to silver solder more than one joint on the same type of piece , or number of pieces if you might consider doing one or two in the case of multiple pieces, the "Right" way so us neophytes might get a glimpse of someone whoknows what they're doing, doing it? Thanks.
Hi Keith
I am Very pleased with all your videos. Would be you able soft solder the oil tank on all the joints.
Yes because there is no heat on the component when it's in service . . .
Mr Appleton may I ask was the use of brass in the tank construction a necessity or could steel have been used? the reason I'm asking is because I thought the unpainted tank was an absolute work of art and I was just curious if you painted it for function or personal preference I figure the latter but in either case a beautiful job none the less
it is a piece of standard 1 inch square brass oil tank material as used in small mechanical lubricators. I bought it from Blackgates Engineering at the same time as the pump.
If you were to make another one of these, would you make all the holes first so no swath resides in the tank after you tap all the mounting holes? How did you lean the current tank so nothing gums up the works?
Once again - I flushed the tank to clean it out thoroughly before fitting the pump - I don't show every insignificant detail in the video .....
Did you alow for a vent in the oil tank.
I do like the little pump and tank.
In the video I show a large hole in the top of the tank - under the end of the pump where the pickup pipe goes in. The pipe is 5/32" and the hole is one Imperial drill size larger :-)))
How does the inside of that oil pump looks like??
I assume there is a ball bearing inside to work as a one way valve?
Two stainless steel ball bearings - one on the top of the inlet and the other on the outlet.
Hi, i have never tried to silver solder. Do you think the ends could be soft soldered instead?
Keep up the good Work, i am always looking forward to see your videos?
Yes the tank could be soft soldered, I just silver soldered it so I could show everyone how to do it, and it is stronger that way.
Very nice pump Kieth. May I borrow the idea? I'll have your name engraved on the tank.
Thanks again.
Hello Keith! I was wondering how the pressure equalizes inside the tank as you pump the oil out. Are you fitting the feed pipe with a seal? Since you haven't put any holes into the tank wall I am afraid you'll create a vacuum inside that works against you.
Greetings from Germany!
In the video I show a large hole in the top of the tank - under the end of the pump where the pickup pipe goes in. The pipe is 5/32" and the hole is one Imperial drill size larger :-)))
Not a complaint or criticism, I think I would have drilled and tapped the holes for the pump mount before soldering the end caps. I would not like to have any chips of brass inside the tank.
No chips inside the tank - I flushed it out, but didn't bother showing that on the video . . .
Small engine mechanic here, I worry about that kind of stuff. ;o)
Why Brass instead of steel ? Did you have the brass tube on hand or did you pick it up with the pump?
it is a piece of standard 1 inch square brass oil tank material as used in small mechanical lubricators. I bought it from Blackgates Engineering at the same time as the pump.
Ok, It just seemed a shame to paint it, it looked so nice in the plane brass.
it wouldn't stay shiny for long and would be fiddly to clean .....
Alway good Keith thanks
Great music!
Most of the items you mention are not in the online Blackgates catalog.
You should mention this to them.
The might get a lot more orders from us.
Yes I know, they are not always 100% together with the catalogue, but if you drop them an Email, that usually works :-)))
Why are you not brazing instead of silver soldering . Ive always worked on larger masheens could never afford these model engines . Maybe now im close to 50 i might get time and be able to get some of these . Nice job on the oil pump tidy little job
Brazing is a higher temperature process. Silver Soldering is fine for these small parts
why cover that lovely looking oil pump tank in paint? should have polished it up and left it
On a working engine, it would not keep it's polished look without maintenance/polishing regularly. Paint also acts as an anti-corrosion coating.
I agree, especially Green.
what is the difrence between a small full size steam engine and a large model steam engine?
The small full sized Steam Engine is designed to do work.
Keith Appleton im still not really clear on the difrences wouldent a model just do less work but still be able to do work. Sorry im about to start building an engine model size withe the intent of using it to drive a rotisserie over a fire that both provide the cooking heat and the heating for the boiler its a verry small power requirement so i thaught a "model" engine would do the work
Hi Keith -- I would suggest you put your Patreon & PayPal links in the description as 'boilerplate'. I had to hunt around for them. I think if you are asking for cash to help out, please make it easy for us in return. No, not saying your begging, you make good videos so I think it reasonable for a few bucks a month.
There is a Link to Patreon at the end of the video .... but I will put a link at the front - I forgot - too much editing so far today - 2 videos ......
My Patreon address is www.patreon.com/keithappleton
Right - put a link in the beginning, the end and in the boilerplate at the bottom. People look in different places for the same things.
Like your video's very much. But would is be possible to very shortly explain what the part does or is when you mention it, i.e. a crossbar?? I'm not an expert, and often don't have a clue what you are making.... Maybe I am immune to the steam jargon? Still like watching though :-).
I wonder how much time I would spend unscrewing that cap before I finally figured it out.
}:-)))
hi i am a patriot subscriber hi keith i wonder what steam items that you have for sale at the moment ?
Keith, I was hopping to see the primer going on the tank, what happened?
I like to leave something to the imagination :-)))))
Keith, that pump is really pretty. It's a shame you painted the base. But the black looks good on the pump.
a brass tank would soon tarnish and be difficult to clean.
@@keithappleton Keith, that is true. But a clear varnish coat would keep the brass from tarnishing. The pump is beautiful. I love your videos as they are quite informative.
Can you show us a soldering operation where you put just enough solder on, instead of too much? Thanks.
I would, but it doesn't show up on video very well - but the next time that I do any silver soldering I will - just for you :-)))))
Great! Thanks!
Can't you do it instead of mr Apleton ?, he is to busy posting videos to us who like what we see and not looking for mistakes .
G'day Keith the patreon sub is better how you are going to do it monthly, I would like to increase my annual contribution when it runs out. I personally get a lot out of your videos Keith and if I was to buy DVD's of a similar content it would be a hell of a lot more! This oiler has given me an idea thanks mate and the backing music is really peace full, great!! Regards John
Keith, I really enjoy your videos. Is it possible to give you say five quid periodically? Without committing to giving you a pound a month?
yes of course - very kind thank you :-))))
OK, can I do that thru Patreon? or some other way?
in all honesty, i would have fitted the pump first. those chips from the taped holes would bother me. they might not actualy do anything inside..but i would KNOW they are in there from tapping the holes. i get pretty irked by such things.
Relax, I know what I'm doing - I flushed the tank thoroughly before fitting the pump - I don't show every tiny detail on the video :-)))