Tak, wiem. Ale widziałem na żywo dużo takich już wiekowych obiektów i większość z nich była tego typu. Tutaj jest tylko góra drewniana ale bywałem w obiektach, które przy samym wejściu do środka już się chwiały.
@@samuelfellows6923 I wrote that I saw a lot of such objects and most of the old ones were built this way. Many of them had a wooden bottom. On wooden stilts. And when they were old, the whole building was able to move even after entering it.
@@beakytzw more like 1 house and empty of any human. Just the fridge would take the whole output from the turbine and yet maybe more than it can produce.
This Thing has at best 5 kW. A single Kettle needs 1000 Watt, an Oven or Stove even 2-4 kW. You could power a single House with this Turbine but would have to watch the fuck out which Devices you switch on at the same Time. So using this Turbine for Hydroelectricity is a rubbish Idea.
You would be amazed by the amount of electricity this turbine is capable of producing. Someone could make a lot of money feeding clean energy into the grid.
I feel as if someone in my profession is going to have to retrieve your body if you don’t restore the infrastructure/ safety measures with this apparatus….
The turbine itself was manufactured in 1949. Previously, another, smaller one was installed there. At the beginning of the nineties, it underwent a slight renovation. And about 7 years ago, she had wooden fingers in the gear replaced because the previous ones broke. And about every 10 years, overhaul of the upper bearing (thrust, disc).
Yes, I know, it would be better. This one was installed here over a dozen years ago and has remained. I personally thought about switching to a cross flow turbine.
Hello .. The smallest turbine works on water .. How much does it need one cubic meter per second .. How much does it produce for example from 1 megabyte to 5 megabytes and how much is it in dollars .. Thank you, my esteemed sir ..
A water turbine can drive a wide variety of devices. They used to be widely used to drive mills, sawmills, forges and many other plants. They can also run generators. In this case, the turbine was driving the grain mill.
@@davebeckley2584 tak, są zrobione z twardego drewna. Okrąg jest z żeliwa w który są wkładane ,,zęby" i zapieranie drewnianymi klinami. Oczywiście wszystko musi mieć odpowiedni kształt i do każdej turbiny było to dopracowywane indywidualnie.
I wouldn't like to walk up on this wooden floor! Otherwise, if the cabin didn't explode yet, because of the enormous torque, you got there, especially when you start the turbine. Or, did anyone not notice, how the hole building started to " shake" 🤔😂❓
What most folks mistake for HP is torque. HP is calculated by rpm. These old machines had low HP numbers because of low speed. But huge amounts of torque. That's the power of the technology at the time. Torque turned vast amounts of machinery, hence line shafting. Not fast, but tremendous twisting power. Remember an old steam engine at rest has the most torque/power applied to its wheels because the full force of the steam pressure is applied by the pistons is applied to the wheels. Now days we are mistaken by car engine HP numbers. High rpm, but low torque.
Wrong! HP is calculated by both torque and speed combined. The small take off wheel from this turbine have same HP value as the big wheel but at lower torque and higher speed. HP is simply a different unit for Power like Watts and 1 HP = 746W . It is based of the amount of work done per seecond. 1 watt = a joule/second of work. A low speed machine can have huge amount of HP if torque is high. The the other way around, is also true. A universal motor in say a power tool spinning at 30000 rpm have a quite low torque but uses the speed instead to still get a high wattage. A gearbox can then lower the high rpm from this motor and at same time it increases the torque by the same amount but the power of the machine in HP or Watts is same at both ends of the gearbox. Same amount of work is produced in total. Another very similar example to this turbine are modern hydro power plants using similar turbines that spin at at most maybee 500 rpm but each turbine can still output 100s of MW of electricity because the torque they produce is enormous.
As you walk into the mill you can either stay to the left and view the flywheel in motion or or you can veer right and experience one of the most horrifying deaths possible. Choose wisely.
Fajnie, że ktoś w końcu wrzucił film pokazujący proces uruchomienia młyńskiej turbiny Francisa :) Jest możliwość zanurzenia kamery przy łopatkach sterujących i pokazanie pracującego wirnika?
@@GunsGuy1990 Pomimo wieku tej turbiny wszystko działa. Może już nie idealnie ale da się zatrzymać i regulować obroty. Kiedyś w wolnej chwili coś nakręcę. Widzę, że kolega też jest pasjonatem takich sprzętów jak i ja. Ciekawe są turbiny banki-michella i bardzo podobne ossberger. Niestety u nas praktycznie niewystępujące.
@@adameno2161 Zgadza się, jestem fanem techniki i swego czasu mocno zagłębiłem się w temat turbin wodnych. Zwłaszcza interesowały mnie te typu reakcyjnego - Francis, Deriaz czy Kaplan bo wydaje mi się że najlepiej wykorzystują potencjał mocy wody. Tym co mnie natchnęło do drążenia w temacie był młyn w mojej okolicy z poziomym Francisem - niestety od dawna niesprawny :(
@@GunsGuy1990 To z tego co piszesz rozumiem, że gdzieś w obszarze górskim lub podgórskim masz lokalizację bo tam często były francisy poziome montowane i w zabudowie. Oglądałem kiedyś elektrownie w Złotnikach Lubańskich na francisach ale to inna bajka. Deriazy to do siłowni szczytowo-pompowych. Normalnie na duże spady to Francis albo kaplan. Ten drugi łatwiejszy w uzyskaniu energii poprzez regulację kierowniczą i łopat, tak myślę. Śmigłowa to taki bardzo ubogi kaplan co zabiera połowę mocy i sterowności a na bardzo duże spady to peleton ale u nas też z nim lipa.
Yes it is a Francis turbine. Most of the information on the internet says that these are high-headroom turbines. But they were also produced for low bleeds. And used quite often. From what I remember, the main difference was the rotor construction, the height and width ratio. And the speed of rotation. Currently, Francis turbines are not used for drops below 5m.
Reading some of your other comments you said it was part of an old grain mill operation. I find it interesting that it was left in place and that and able to spin freely like that. Here where I'm from unless there is a new owner who is going to use it right away; by law water powered devices such as this and sluicegates must be removed or at the very least permanently disabled for the safety of people with less brains than common sense.
I remember couple old mills my area Ozarks still spin if turned. Water now that's not happen again for some but most get welded or few screws hold them so ppl can not get spinning get hurt. Two that burned up from school party's after good Friday night game.
Torque is the amount of work force applied. HP is a measure of work done over time. Kida like a weight lifter. Torque = how much he/she can lift. HP How many times can they do it over and over in time continuously.
Don't worry, I know this and many people in my family have died in similar devices. I think he will survive. Soon I want to gently run this ruin, but it's just so that it works. Soon I want to record the rotor and adjust how it looks. The recording will be operational by the end of the year.
The scary thing is that the shed that houses the gears looks like it's just about to collapse over the turbine itself 😬
Tak, wiem.
Ale widziałem na żywo dużo takich już wiekowych obiektów i większość z nich była tego typu.
Tutaj jest tylko góra drewniana ale bywałem w obiektach, które przy samym wejściu do środka już się chwiały.
🇬🇧 - ?, we speak in English, and don’t understand polish, please translate into English 🙂
@@samuelfellows6923 I wrote that I saw a lot of such objects and most of the old ones were built this way. Many of them had a wooden bottom. On wooden stilts. And when they were old, the whole building was able to move even after entering it.
@@adameno2161 - 🙂 thanks
EPA is going to have a kitten! Unless that's on private land, then the landlord insurance company would be in for a small surprise.
Me: I am a fan of guitars and history
UA-cam algorithm : watch that Francis turbine, you 'll love it.
Me :...
Look how old that thing is. There is tons of history in that old rusty metal and creaky boards. That fits at least one of your criteria.
But you loved it
It would be good to see that renovated.
And there is sits when it could be fixed up and making free power for some people.
That could probably power 2 homes
@@beakytzw I'd say more like 5-10
@@beakytzw more like 1 house and empty of any human. Just the fridge would take the whole output from the turbine and yet maybe more than it can produce.
@@mrosef007 you think that thing makes 100 watts with that much water turning it
@@mrosef007 you think that thing makes 100 watts with that much water turning it
100 years old and it still works. Who knew?!?
These videos are the waking nightmares of the energy people who want you to buy, buy BUY!
Fun to see an old piece of equipment like this still working.
This is really cool. I would not change it even if something else was better for the sake of originality
Hodgson Water Mill in Sycamore, Missouri has a Francis Turbine similar to this! It actually has two! A big one and a smaller one!
someone Needs to refurb that and start generating electricity
This Thing has at best 5 kW. A single Kettle needs 1000 Watt, an Oven or Stove even 2-4 kW. You could power a single House with this Turbine but would have to watch the fuck out which Devices you switch on at the same Time. So using this Turbine for Hydroelectricity is a rubbish Idea.
Ale zabytek, że jeszcze działa, kiedyś robiono naprawdę solidne rzeczy =)
A jakie wibracje w domu :)))
Some say that this is what powers snoop dog's weed grinder
Good one
Fo shizzle?
The soundtrack starting at 2:00 is so satisfactory !
Enormous torque 👍👍
I wasn't even there and that freaked me out! Awesome video!
Thanks
and now we all meet again thanks to the youtube algorithm
You would be amazed by the amount of electricity this turbine is capable of producing. Someone could make a lot of money feeding clean energy into the grid.
Thanks for your sharing
Bonjour, super top france
Афигеть, вот это высокие технологии! :)
I feel like I'm watching a Myst cut scene.
I was kinda hoping you named the turbine old Francis
I feel as if someone in my profession is going to have to retrieve your body if you don’t restore the infrastructure/ safety measures with this apparatus….
I've always wanted to control a building-sized machine
Really love the setting. :-)
Wonder how much it would take to fix up,and restore!!!
Nice
In this case, what acts as the distribuidor?
i couldn’t tell if the wheel in the water was turning
This is fascinating, where is this? Quite a large turbine compared to those I've been before, what is it driving? Sawmill?
It is located in the center of Poland and fueled the grain mill.
🌟 - please do a video of the grain mill 😀
sweeeeet!
Checkout the old grist mill in spring hope nc,,,,they have three just like-it generating power for Duke Energy at the head waters of the Tar river.
Is that near where Duke Energy let a massive amount of coal slurry spill into the river and fuck up the ecosystem? Fuck them.
Everybody gangsta until Kelso starts riding it
Neat
I feel like I just stumbled into some level of Riven or Myst.
that's quite cool, looks to be hooked into nothing, but still cool. also I cant read polish, so cant read the other replies.
I will try to write in English :-)
what was it used for?
It powered the grain mill
@@adameno2161 I was wondering that same thing, thanks for letting us know. Do you know any more about it? When it was built?
The turbine itself was manufactured in 1949. Previously, another, smaller one was installed there. At the beginning of the nineties, it underwent a slight renovation. And about 7 years ago, she had wooden fingers in the gear replaced because the previous ones broke. And about every 10 years, overhaul of the upper bearing (thrust, disc).
Sites like this all over the world that could be producing free electricity, that are not.
Is it a generator
Looks like you have not even 1 meter of pressure head, wouldnt a kaplan turbine be better suited for this case?
Yes, I know, it would be better. This one was installed here over a dozen years ago and has remained. I personally thought about switching to a cross flow turbine.
Hello .. The smallest turbine works on water .. How much does it need one cubic meter per second .. How much does it produce for example from 1 megabyte to 5 megabytes and how much is it in dollars .. Thank you, my esteemed sir ..
Hi .
I know this turbine is 50 horsepower and about 70 rpm. Unfortunately, I don't know what the water flow is.
Greetings.
1.21 jigawatts
It's still usable. Hook up a dynamo and charge your phone :)
is that spinning the generator?
A water turbine can drive a wide variety of devices. They used to be widely used to drive mills, sawmills, forges and many other plants. They can also run generators. In this case, the turbine was driving the grain mill.
Is this thing free?
This is renewable energy (green energy), not free energy.
how much is the head difference in water. in meters
it's not too big. At normal water levels, around 1.5 or 2 meters.
Imagine swimming near that
I have submechaniphobia id be fucking terrified
Fascynujący. Co to zasilało?
Młyn wodny. Na tabliczce znamionowej ma 50 🐎
Dave Beckley Poszczególne zęby kół zębatych są bardzo wyjątkowe.
@@davebeckley2584 tak, są zrobione z twardego drewna. Okrąg jest z żeliwa w który są wkładane ,,zęby" i zapieranie drewnianymi klinami. Oczywiście wszystko musi mieć odpowiedni kształt i do każdej turbiny było to dopracowywane indywidualnie.
Fajnie że działa mimo tylu lat.
Gdzie takie cuda są?
Przepraszam, ale nie chcę podawać żadnych szczegółów związanych z lokalizacją.
I wouldn't like to walk up on this wooden floor! Otherwise, if the cabin didn't explode yet, because of the enormous torque, you got there, especially when you start the turbine. Or, did anyone not notice, how the hole building started to " shake" 🤔😂❓
It reminds me of "resident evil" game's
Привет из России.Это водяная мельница? Спасибо.
да это была водяная мельница.
What most folks mistake for HP is torque. HP is calculated by rpm. These old machines had low HP numbers because of low speed. But huge amounts of torque. That's the power of the technology at the time. Torque turned vast amounts of machinery, hence line shafting. Not fast, but tremendous twisting power. Remember an old steam engine at rest has the most torque/power applied to its wheels because the full force of the steam pressure is applied by the pistons is applied to the wheels. Now days we are mistaken by car engine HP numbers. High rpm, but low torque.
Wrong! HP is calculated by both torque and speed combined. The small take off wheel from this turbine have same HP value as the big wheel but at lower torque and higher speed. HP is simply a different unit for Power like Watts and 1 HP = 746W . It is based of the amount of work done per seecond. 1 watt = a joule/second of work. A low speed machine can have huge amount of HP if torque is high. The the other way around, is also true. A universal motor in say a power tool spinning at 30000 rpm have a quite low torque but uses the speed instead to still get a high wattage. A gearbox can then lower the high rpm from this motor and at same time it increases the torque by the same amount but the power of the machine in HP or Watts is same at both ends of the gearbox. Same amount of work is produced in total. Another very similar example to this turbine are modern hydro power plants using similar turbines that spin at at most maybee 500 rpm but each turbine can still output 100s of MW of electricity because the torque they produce is enormous.
@@johnpekkala6941 Thats why my 400hp motor bike cant pull a trailer :)
Exactly, but a 400 hp lorry easily can. Speed vs torque.
HP: 75
Torque: 12000000
Safe as houses
Is that the screen shaking or an earthquake?
This tremor is unfortunately the vibration caused by the turbine.
@@adameno2161 ahh
Na jakiej to jest rzece ?
Przepraszam, ale nie chcę podawać żadnych szczegółów związanych z lokalizacją.
@@adameno2161 stawiam na rzekę S
As you walk into the mill you can either stay to the left and view the flywheel in motion or or you can veer right and experience one of the most horrifying deaths possible. Choose wisely.
You could jump on the wheel and see how long it takes to be thrown through the wall.
@@mrfingers4737 that is certainly an attractive alternative yes.
Fajnie, że ktoś w końcu wrzucił film pokazujący proces uruchomienia młyńskiej turbiny Francisa :) Jest możliwość zanurzenia kamery przy łopatkach sterujących i pokazanie pracującego wirnika?
Ciężkie do wykonania. Duży napływ wody i potrzebny dobry sprzęt do takiego nagrania (nie mam). Może kiedyś w przyszłości.
@@adameno2161 Ok, czy jest szansa pokazać regulację prędkość obrotów turbiny? Czy kierownica sterująca nie jest zbyt mocno zardzewiała?
@@GunsGuy1990 Pomimo wieku tej turbiny wszystko działa. Może już nie idealnie ale da się zatrzymać i regulować obroty. Kiedyś w wolnej chwili coś nakręcę. Widzę, że kolega też jest pasjonatem takich sprzętów jak i ja. Ciekawe są turbiny banki-michella i bardzo podobne ossberger. Niestety u nas praktycznie niewystępujące.
@@adameno2161 Zgadza się, jestem fanem techniki i swego czasu mocno zagłębiłem się w temat turbin wodnych. Zwłaszcza interesowały mnie te typu reakcyjnego - Francis, Deriaz czy Kaplan bo wydaje mi się że najlepiej wykorzystują potencjał mocy wody. Tym co mnie natchnęło do drążenia w temacie był młyn w mojej okolicy z poziomym Francisem - niestety od dawna niesprawny :(
@@GunsGuy1990 To z tego co piszesz rozumiem, że gdzieś w obszarze górskim lub podgórskim masz lokalizację bo tam często były francisy poziome montowane i w zabudowie. Oglądałem kiedyś elektrownie w Złotnikach Lubańskich na francisach ale to inna bajka. Deriazy to do siłowni szczytowo-pompowych. Normalnie na duże spady to Francis albo kaplan. Ten drugi łatwiejszy w uzyskaniu energii poprzez regulację kierowniczą i łopat, tak myślę. Śmigłowa to taki bardzo ubogi kaplan co zabiera połowę mocy i sterowności a na bardzo duże spady to peleton ale u nas też z nim lipa.
1:55 u r welcome
8.34 lbs. per gallon, 7.48 gallons per cubic foot. Get that shit moving and what do you get? Force.
@Muckin 4on nature abhors an even number.
That thing is haunted.
😂
get an industrial motor attach a belt on that thing buy an inverter there you go free electricity for your house
See this video : ua-cam.com/video/4tOIlp2fukE/v-deo.htmlsi=Ktfnm8V-2UF-Gc1G
Also get a grid tie inverter and send electricity back to the grid.
Looks more like a Kaplan. I didn’t think the Francis was a low head turbine.
Yes it is a Francis turbine. Most of the information on the internet says that these are high-headroom turbines. But they were also produced for low bleeds. And used quite often. From what I remember, the main difference was the rotor construction, the height and width ratio. And the speed of rotation. Currently, Francis turbines are not used for drops below 5m.
Can’t see the turbine but the water intake room and the presence of wicket gates suggest a vertical Francis.
Reading some of your other comments you said it was part of an old grain mill operation. I find it interesting that it was left in place and that and able to spin freely like that. Here where I'm from unless there is a new owner who is going to use it right away; by law water powered devices such as this and sluicegates must be removed or at the very least permanently disabled for the safety of people with less brains than common sense.
I remember couple old mills my area Ozarks still spin if turned. Water now that's not happen again for some but most get welded or few screws hold them so ppl can not get spinning get hurt.
Two that burned up from school party's after good Friday night game.
This is scary to look at, imagine being there.
I commented before this video had 100 comments
Зато он не подумал о безопасности
old grist mill ? ;-)
Yes
@@adameno2161 ....thumbs up Adam from Lake George, NY ..USA ;-)
Torque is the amount of work force applied. HP is a measure of work done over time. Kida like a weight lifter. Torque = how much he/she can lift. HP How many times can they do it over and over in time continuously.
About 70 turns
and 50 horses
Death trap
Don't worry, I know this and many people in my family have died in similar devices. I think he will survive. Soon I want to gently run this ruin, but it's just so that it works. Soon I want to record the rotor and adjust how it looks. The recording will be operational by the end of the year.
Anyone else here with submechanophobia wonder why they click on these videos to torture themselves? 😅
Me !
Easy 10kw
The jerks :-(
Shit you run that with the housing in such a state ? WOW . The whole thing is shaking for fucks sake
Fuckers mint
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I commented before there was more than 10 comments.
This was lame