David Chalmers - Are We Living in a Simulation?
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- Could our entire universe have been created by a super-intelligent species, just like computer scientists write software to simulate chemical reactions or the weather? It may sound silly, but with the exponential increase in computing power, it could be conceivable? And if for humans, why not for others? If our universe were a simulation, how could we tell?
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David Chalmers is an Australian philosopher specializing in the area of philosophy of mind and philosophy of language. He is Professor of Philosophy and co-director of the Center for Mind, Brain, and Consciousness at New York University.
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the closer to the truth you really are, the closer to knowing that you are further away from it than ever
I don't buy this idea
@@jonathanjollimore7156 Wasn’t selling it JJ
The ultimate truth is unknowable, all other truths are relative truths only…relative truths are knowable…the ultimate truth beyond knowing
Peace 🐰
@@Williamb612 It's idea I don't know the answer if its true or not but not really a subscriber too it
He went ham when customizing his character 🤣
David hasn’t looked this good since the 1984 album.
🤣 might as well jump, go ahead jump!
The dot matrix printer in the background is a nice touch. 😃
no it is an MRI machine
It’s the ‘black cat’
@@Williamb612 Its a Dot Matrix plotter printer...you can see the paper underneath.
That guy proves we are in a simulation. Only a program could create such a uniquely bizarre NPC.
He never makes a proof. But he explains why it might be likely.
This clip convinces me that the audio only radio is still the best medium ever.
LOL
Either we’re living in a simulation and David has time traveled from 1987 for the interview or he moonlights in a Def Leppard cover band called Mute Cheetah
One of my favourite discussions on the channel, David's a great guy
Is this an old video? I'm sure I've seen this ages ago! Or it could just be a glitch in the matrix! 🤷♂️
I think it is, Chalmers has not had his hair that long for some years.
@@Coneelfrancis These are reruns from public television; you might've seen it there. (from the "About" section) "On the air continuously since 2000, Closer To Truth is broadcast weekly on PBS and public television stations in the U.S. "
It's extremely old. Chalmers today has short thinning grey hair.
@@raffriff42 True, these are from a long running PBS television series. It hasn't been on the air continuously since 2000 however. It was off the air in 2002 and from 2004 through 2007.
I'm not sure if it's still being made. It seems to have been sidelined by the pandemic. The only Closer To Truth-ish stuff that's been done over the past year and a half are the remote one on one Zoom chats that appear sporadically on this channel called "Closer To Truth: Chats". They're not much like the television show.
Kuhn is 77 so the show might be gone for good now.
Even the last season wasn't actually new shows but old interviews with new special effects.
What if...
billions of years in our simulation equates to 1 second in the "next level up" universe.
We could have been placed into the simulation to figure out some kind of physics/mathmatical challange that they have not yet discovered - so we ourselves are Artifical Intelligence working for the universe 1 level above us. We are doing their work for them, but we have far more time than they do. They could be "us"
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This is some good convo... I wish people would talk about it more.
Love the video! thanks for making this. I have to say though as a bit of constructive criticism the phasing on Mr. Chalmers mic really brings down what is otherwise an excellently produced video.
The Spinal Tap of Philosophy 😳
Ha!
😂🤣😂
LOL
beautiful programme, very strong arguement.
I love Simulation Theory. I find that at the base of many individuals core/fundamental values precepts, etc. derive from ones stance on their mortality. Either you are eternal(whatever your belief) or you are not. Many people who are uncomfortable with their inevitable demise avoid any options that might reduce their relevance or destroy their ego, Simulation Theory being one of them. A Mind Forever Voyaging... an old Atari word based game I played when I was 10 or 12, maybe - similar to Zork- exposed me to the concept that I might be software. That, along with all the Ray Bradbury and Issac Asimov I read, as a child. Enjoying your video documentation of these wonderful dialogues!
Well, yeah, every body dies, as every dream ends :)
I expect a better discussion than just having fun.
I postulate that any simulation is got to have a clock. Without a clock, a simulation does not move forward.
The fact that the time itself has a lowest possible value , plank's time, means that we do have a clock signal. That is one step closer to decide if we are indeed in a simulation.
@i Syndicates you are correct. He stays forever.
@traditional arts first you would need to Define confidence within something undefinable.
When you miss punctuation it's hard for me to know whether you make a statement or ask a question.
You know what I mean
The most important show I watch.
Ok Yoda
What if you are the programmer of this simulation and, to fully experience it, you immersed yourself in the simulation taking on the role of a typical simulated character, unaware that you are actually the creator of it all? When the simulation is over, do you return to ground reality? Would you have programmed in an afterlife? Or the option to reincarnate and play another round?
actually it was Plato in the Allegory of the Cave who first thought of that
I know that Plato gets credit for it, as far as the western world goes, but Vasisthas Yoga went into this a lot more in depth, and its not ranked as being older by modern standards but it is most definitely much older, or at least the stories from it are. In a lot of ways simulation theory is really just vedanta in more modern jargon.
does he use amp simulator of valve tubes?
Few of the conclusions I have made based on science. Correct me if I am wrong:
Scientific proofs that we live in a simulation:
1) Quantum Entanglement: If information can be passed between the two entangled particles kept at any distance in universe instantly than that clearly means that some CPU has access to each and every particle of the world and everything is connected and we live in a simulation.
2)Speed of Light Limit: There is an upper limit on the speed consciousness can travel, which is speed of light. This means this is the speed at which the CPU builds the realtime simulation for the observers like in a video game and you cannot go faster than speed of light.
3) Time changes with speed: The person traveling in space with higher speed, time will be slower for him. At speed of light the time stops. A person traveling in space with astronomical speed will age slower than his friend on Earth of the same age. This should not be possible in an organic world as technically both the persons have spent same time being alive.This can only be possible in a Simulated world where the time/age is being perceived differently by the simulation(CPU) as its calculating it based on formulas of which time is a variable.
4) Double Slit Experiment: At quantum level, the particles behave as per the observer or the consciousness. And also we cannot determine the position of any elementary particle unless it is being observed. This clearly shows that the simulation has limited memory and cannot store information of each and every elementary particle unless it is being observed by a consciousness and is creating real time information about it only when needed(being observed).
It’s creation not simulation, because look it’s bloody elegant. More elegant and complicated than anything you can ever do or ever understand. You can’t create this universe with living beings. Not the eternal souls we have.
I used to love him on that show Growing pains.
I love how he says he takes simulation theory seriously when he doesnt even take combs seriously. Gotta love this guy. :D I will add I do genuinely like him and know he's brilliant. : )
Comb is simulation.
apparently he doesn't Take the simulation theory serious. He was just being tongue in cheek .
Anyone who has played the GTA5 computer game can tell you that it puts you in a new world in your own computer that you and others control. The idea has gone through our heads that we are living in just are larger much more detailed version.
Does Chalmers' "there should be no glitches" argument apply to *hardware* bugs or just software?
The days are coming when Perfect Nonsense will make Perfect sense and we may end up saying, Nothing makes sense.
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I don't know. To be honest your question is a mishmash of words.
They say that one perceive about GOD by looking at nature and its wonders also Known as Natural Theology.
You wrote God and Herself. The kind of GOD Jews and Christians talk about is not a Male or Female. He has reveled him self as a Man, Father, Warrior, Lover and Mother too while being Infinite, All knowing, Omnipotent and so on.
He don't Like idols and deities. He don't explain himself. He said to Moses "I am who I am."
@@murphymerryliz and You are Right.
Those in power have always created chaos so they could rule over it and lap up all of our juices.
Nothing DOES make sense! It's the only logical premise!! From nothing comes nothing
@@101whoarewe not a her but yes ❤️
great production
This is just the subject I enjoy listening to , brilliant mind , thank you.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE IDEA OF SIMULATION IT IS ALWAYS CONNECTED TO COMPUTER, VIDEO GAMES,... OR SOMEONE OR SOMETHING ELSE CREATING THE WORLD. YET, EVERY NIGHT WE CREATE A SIMULATION AND ARE IN IT AT THE SAMETIME OURSELVES WHEN WE DREAM. AS FAR AS HISTORY GOES WE BEEN DREAMING FOR MANY YEARS BEFORE COMPUTERS AND VIDEO GAMES WERE INVENTED YET BECAUSE OF IT NOW WE THINK OF "THE SIMULATION" AND CONNECT IT TO THINGS WE DO EXTERNALLY. YET WE'VE BEEN SIMULATING ALL THIS TIME. THAT'S ON TOP OF LIVING WITHIN THE WORLD OUR BRAIN CREATES FOR US THROUGH OUR SENSES. WHICH IS SIMULATING WITHIN A SIMULATION.
I could talk with this guy for hours in a bar, seriously somebody buy this dude a beer and have the most important conversation of your life...
What we create in our minds if believed without doubt is our reality!!
Notice the MRI machine in the background
Also let’s be clear, the guy with the blonde wig has done mushrooms 🍄
Or DMT
@@waelsalih8838 maybe both
@@Williamb612 probably both
not bath salts though
Not a wig ..
I totaly agree.. Video game.. Amazing simulation
Wow, David Lee Roth really knows his metaphysics
🙄 Dumbass, that’s not David Lee Roth. It’s Spiccoli... maybe you don’t recognize him because he grew up and moved to Australia.
The real questions you should ask : how did God program himself ? If he has always existed and was always omnipotent, where does his intelligence/thinking comes from ? What rules are ruling his mind since he is the one making the rules, and how can he make rules if his mind has no rules yet ?
Dizzying. Around and around we go.
As a Philosophy Major (Amongst other things, since I'm a Triple-Major), this is one of those lessons we learn early on in Philosophy of Religion.
This brings up the argument of causation. Everything is caused, and everything is a cause to an effect. However, there is an uncaused cause, and that uncaused cause is God. This brings up specific arguments under CA and TA. I'm still taking Philosophy of Religion this semester, therefore I can not give a deeper answer on CA and TA. But if it's something you're interested in, I suggest maybe taking a loot at it!
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What is CA and TA ? But I think that this question has never been answered since saying "the uncaused is God" is like just giving a name (and not an explanation) to the problem of causality. Btw "uncaused" does not exist as far as I know, is that american English ?
These have been posted before right?
Fascinating
'The Thirteenth Floor' film, recommend, vs Matrix
Interesting movie
This conversation shows all the sophisticated insight of a couple of high school students (which may not be the same as high-school students) sitting around BSing about Life, the Universe, and Everything.
And indeed, less interesting than Mother Sereda's nihlistic ('Sereda' is an anagram of 'erased') description of the Creation in 'Jurgen':
"It is as a chessboard whereon the pieces move diversely: the knights leaping sidewise, and the bishops darting obliquely, and the rooks charging straightforward, and the pawns laboriously hobbling from square to square, each at the player's will. There is no discernible order, all to the onlooker is manifestly in confusion: but to the player there is a meaning in the disposition of the pieces."
"I do not deny it: still, one must grant--"
"And I think it is as though each of the pieces, even the pawns, had a chessboard of his own which moves as he is moved, and whereupon he moves the pieces to suit his will, in the very moment wherein he is moved willy-nilly."
"You may be right: yet, even so--"
"And Koshchei who directs this infinite moving of puppets may well be the futile harried king in some yet larger game."
"Now, certainly I cannot contradict you but, at the same time-!"
"So goes this criss-cross multitudinous moving as far as thought can reach : and beyond that the moving goes. All moves. All moves uncomprehendingly, and to the sound of laughter. For all moves in consonance with a higher power that understands the meaning of the movement. And each moves the pieces before him in consonance with his ability. So the game is endless and ruthless: and there is merriment overhead, but it is very far away."
Were in a simulation
Coz we are all one flow of energy
You put it so simply I can’t disagree
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You better study more about energy
Everything is energy
@@timothygiles3737 I would focus less on the world 'simulation' and more the idea that you are in any way separate from your reality. If you are infinitely connected -- and yes, you infinitely are, because that is infinitely where you come from -- everything is made of the same stuff, it is essentially a systemic illusion being cast upon itself that you are having this present experience at all. Sure, it's all happening, but what's happening is a game being played out and the stuck together bits of consciousness are the chess pieces. If the Universe is "real" (in the classical sense of the word) would that in any way be different from a Universe that is simulated, but has all the same laws of physics. We could be having a similar experience in the "real universe" or the "fake universe." The 'fake-verse' is still real to the participants. Maybe the universe is just a holographic sphere of infinite calculations projecting a 'simulated' reality within itself.
@@timothygiles3737
Coz you are not real
Do you know what is the real you
Just like the smartphone "realme"
Can this be recursive ie there is no groundlevel universe?
Base reality is where these simulations are created imo.
It is recursive; that is the groundlevel: reality is a recursive, intrinsic language exhibiting dual self-containment as it executes read-write operations. The base recursive meta-identity distributes over all of reality and enforces coherence in the process. Look up ctmu.
If we were in a simulation, then what about the domain that is being simulated from, it doesn't answer where that place came from. Its merely kicking the problem down the road
Are We Living in a Simulation? - I hope so, it would be horrible if all this was real!
I can only imagine they first shot the interview with the MRI on but decided against it.
They should have filmed this with one of them laying inside of the MRI
I accidentally left a gold ring on once... wondering why my finger was jumping... then felt around and ooops. Obviously not much actual gold in the ring lol.
THE MRI IS ALWAYS ON
Please pass this message to the developer , “ I believe my character was supposed to be wealthy and handsome “🤔
please allow me to introduce myself, I am a man of wealth and taste 👅
@@Williamb612 lol bealzebub
@@pb.f.1 pb: You guessed my name 😈 👅
3:15 many documented accounts all through out history of people just disappearing while walking down the street as if they walked into another dimension or a rip in the fabric of space. Sounds like a glitch somewhere.
I just don't get it. Let me just start with a quote. "It's not that reality is imitating a computer, it's that the computer is imitating reality." Why on earth does there need to be only 2 different theories on simulation? Why does everyone think 'fake' when we talk about simulations? Why does there need to be a giant computer somewhere, and some alien or advanced physical being as a programmer? Sometimes I'm shocked out how juvenile some of these ideas sound that are coming from the greatest minds on the planet when it comes to simulation. Chalmers at least brought up the idea that information may be fundamental, but that still doesn't mean that we live in a programmed reality. Like Chalmers said, it could have started with some very fundamental laws and 'exploded' and evolved from there.
What if fundamental reality (the larger reality that encompasses ours) IS consciousness (information based) at the core, and consciousness is discrete or digital in nature (initially comprised of on/off states)? Our computer technology could be a natural part of the course of our evolution, and is only mimicking what is fundamentally a truth already. Think about math and physics, and evolution. What if it all just started with an algorithm or some basic physical laws by conscious awareness and then it naturally evolved? That would mean consciousness is the 'computer' and the 'programmer', and those terms are only metaphors to try and describe what is by nature a fundamental truth. It's similar to a video game except video games ARE programmed realities with worlds already initially set up. They aren't evolved realities (yet).
Might sound silly but gamers have the best tools to understand how this works. I like to think of the simulation as a learning lab or playground for consciousness. In a simulation created by consciousness (information) the computer (consciousness) computing the simulation can't be inside the simulation. That's kinda illogical. It has to be 'outside' of it. Take a look at a video game on your flat screen monitor. A video game developer will be very familiar with the idea that you have coordinates in that virtual world, and you can move in 6 degrees (3 dimensions) as far from the game world of 'matter' as you want, forever, in empty virtual space. And no matter how far you travel into empty space it is magically contained within the confines of the computer/monitor. You could think of that virtual world as our Universe, then it becomes very easy to comprehend how the Universe could be 'infinite', but yet still have a whole reality outside of it that is more fundamental and even more real. The player sitting at the desk outside of that virtual universe is the consciousness controlling the actor inside of the simulation. The actor is only an avatar. If that avatar dies, the player doesn't. The player just moves on to a new experience, a new game, and a new character.
Again, all these computer terms are only metaphors and everything is consciousness and information at the core. So, this simulation theory where consciousness is at the core can already explain how our universe may be infinite in all directions, it explains reincarnation, it explains free will, it explains 'God' or the 'Programmer' idea, it explains the paranormal, it explains multi dimensions and the aliens in those other realities... in fact, it can explain just about every mystery that we ponder today better than pretty much any other theory. And the ideas are pretty simple really. It's all information, and you could say that every reality, even realities more fundamental than ours, are 'virtual' in nature. Your hand never actually touches a basketball. Why do you think it is always explained as invisible 'forces' of nature? Magic. No, it's just information or 'programming' enforcing physics and rules, same reason why a video game character can't fall through the ground or walk through walls. Technology could be a natural course of evolution in a universe that is fundamentally created from information in the first place. And again, It's not that our reality is imitating a computer, it's that our computers are imitating fundamental reality.
It make sense think about it , we're beings which likes "simulations ", we like narratives , stories , games , being in other perspectives( movies) .
I find it incredible how everyone jumps on the concept of computer simulations, completely ignoring that our computational brains have been simulating realities within fiction for millenia :P
It wasn’t originally Descartes idea. Ibn Sina, or Avicenna, was the first philosopher to come up with the idea of knowledge by presence, of consciousness without the body, in his flying man thought experiment 600 years prior to him.
Also, there’s no way for us to know that we’re in a simulation, because it would require us to be able to access information outside of something we’re effectively constrained by.
Whether our reality is a simulation matters not when it comes to the question of how anything came to be in the first place. Perhaps our way of thinking has evolved in such a way that we are incapable of conceptualizing anything that does not require a point of origin.
We a living in a Game. There is always a way to get to the next level. I think therefore I am.
What about rene de cartes evil demon theory?
no ,you are therefore you think 😉
David's hair very cool!
I wish I had this man as a teacher in middle school.
'Simulation', implies that we are doing this for a reason. A reason feels good to me. It's the first time I've ever experienced 'logic + existence has meaning = OK :)'.
The simulation is real like any video game. Our problem is that we identify with it while actually being out of it.
Wow, seem you build a time machine and when back to the 80's rocker look...
The question of “physical” or “virtual” is a matter of perspective.
Imagine a computer game so complex that the character is self-aware, and experiences their environment as we experience ours; they see things and feel things, can’t walk through walls, etc. To us, their world is virtual; to them, physical.
Imagine you turn the screen off. To you, their world vanishes, but to them, the world persists as it had before; they have the same experiences whether the screen is on or not. To us it’s virtual, to them it’s physical. So physicality is simply a relationship, not a property. Our world can be thought of in the same way.
Just an idea.
When your only tool is a hammer everything looks like a nail. Our technology could have evolved in a variety of different ways. It so happens that we came up with computers, so, naturally, we postulate that we ourselves might be in a super-advanced game.
Well said. Back in the day it was a steam engine.
@common SCIENCE the world is not an illusion buddy, sorry to break it for you.
In Hinduism, the world/universe is called "maya", literally translated as "illusion".
I've thought about this a lot, but wouldn't a programmer want to remove the capability to even conjure up the idea of simulated worlds? I mean, why inject free will or cognizance into the world? the only issue I have is that we are born with the assumption that our laws of physics are THE laws of physics. That our programs are THE ways to program. I think that discredits the simulation argument a bit. I know about Descartes skepticism, but why not employ that in a way that asks "What do I know?" I think ABOUT physics therefore physics is. I sound like an idealist or Berkeleyan philosopher when I say this, but I really mean that the simulation that we often postulate seems unlikely given the fact that we are already born assuming the physical structures of reality.
Maybe I am overcomplicating this, but think of it in another way. When we die, should we be scared or worried? Not necessarily as we are simply extensions of our parents in regard to being personality copies. This is a bit similar to Daniel Dennett's negation of the 'I'. I guess you could call them clones, but what I mean is that our brains have already preconditioned us to think in the way that our parents think. We unknowingly view the world as if we were them. this also undermines free will a bit. essentially, I am using preconditioned information to show that we are an infinite extension in this universe. I hope I'm making sense.
I am pretty much saying that our preconditioned selves have originative properties.
incredibly interesting and thought-provoking conversation
I agree with david
It's odd that his eyebrows don't move at all when he talks.
Lol. Now I can't stop looking lol
Interesting observation 🧐
Lmaoo proof of simulation
Wasn't expecting the comments to be this great
Death dreams and the matrix are the same thing. When we dream we enter the matrix
Actually Plato described the model of our experiential world as a reflected version of the real one. He compared our experience to that of being inside a cave and that we a are only able to apprehend fleeting shadows and light reflected upon the cave walls, the source of which is the bright expansive world outside, the real world. But we only perceive it dancing upon the flat inner wall. With the model of the Kabballah, it is the impulse toward exponential multiplicity, or, copying that delineates the fall away from first cause. With each new duplication, there is more degradation, until restoration from the original master realm becomes necessary!
It does give an answer to the question why we seem to be the only ones out there (unless the aliens are for "advanced level") But what about how the universe of the programmer looks? Perhaps this universe is really simple compared to that.
In my simulation, I am 81 going on 82 and wondering why I watched that clip all the way through. Doesn't the simulator have anything better for me to do, or watch? I think I will look around on UA-cam and see. Thanks simulator.
what would qualify to own the definition and/or attribute “real” in the first place, since in a situation where the realness of anything depends on not knowing/defining what’s real or not real, there’s is no obvious reference point to distinguish between this real/simulated kind of approach. Suppose we can discover, as as real a sensation as pain some clues that unmistakingly piont to a simulated version of reality and can prove it. We’d conclude something which is “more real” than us, is simulating us, but to what level of realness are we attributing this realness to the simulator? what if that which runs our simulation, is simulated itself again? So, given that any level of simulation, is detectable by observers that inhabit this level of simulation that up till then they considered to be real, where would this end? How real does real need to be to not be distinguished as being simulated at all? Foremost, shouldn’t we try and create simulations, that have built in an easter egg, so that those we ourselves simulate, could come to a conclusion that they are being simulated by something more real than itself? Could one of these creations transcend itself and hence become a part of our supposed level of realness on it’s own? Would it, if designed properly, become possible for any subjective experience to infinitely travel up and down through all these levels of supposed realness/ simulations, only to keep ending up with this same questions again?
Therefore i conclude, no matter what level of realness or simulation you think you inhabit, the question can always be asked.
Unless answering this question leads to discovering infinite levels of reality we’d have to conclude there is only one.
The mechanism of turtles all the way down is Mother Nature's secret to there being anything; if you believe that this is a simulation than you will have to travel an infinite journey to find out.
Nice discussion considering many missing pieces.
Yeah, the infinite fractal beauty of reality.
And if you believe that you are god, then you will find it out at some point.
Consciousness is the mechanism we use to connect to the biological human robots, much in the same way a computer is connected to a satellite and send down “invisible” back and forth instructions to use a drone and receive the images and other data. And the universe isn’t infinite but it appears that way as all we can get is views that make it appear far away. We haven’t got anywhere the movie theater screen that gives the illusion. And the speed of light is a constant in much the same way a movie projector must be set at a certain rate to move the pictures in the film to make it appear that it is real. Lots more if you have a serious interest.
We are not a processor based simulation. This would be archaic technology for an advanced civilization. We are a set it and forget it creation. The fundamental particle is the cellular automaton known as the atom. We haven’t a clue of what the atom really is about.
Built into the program is your own question of is it isn’t it. You need to get beyond that question or you will go around in circles.Every maze is inbuilt with and in and an out. You will be inbuilt with self limiting thoughts and ideas confidence weaknesses these won’t enhance you operational functions ie clear positive thinking. We talk about Self Belief, belief is something we know can create not just self assurance but calm thinking. More solutions arrive when you are relaxed. The is it question is a distraction that takes you off focus. Takes you to thinking you are defined solely by external forces. You are more than that not only can you find the exit to your maze you can go inside and redesign it.
4:00 man went full Jeff Goldblum on us.
Everyone talk about the simulation hypothesis but no one really pinpoints exactly why there would be such a simulation.
The reason is quite obvious though, just answer the question "what do we produce here on earth that a civilization eons ahead of our civilization would have a hard time producing?"
There is one specific type of molecule that takes the "world simulation" to run it's entire length of existence to produce...
Guesses?
A side note consider the equation e=mc2 and how it defines borders and a prison.
Wow, just wow
This is a testable hypothesis. We should be able to consciously effect the wave function and the resultant probabilities.
A great man once said, "ye canna change the laws o' physics".
If the universe is a digital construct then why are ALL it's outputs analogue?
Humans can easily know things-in-themselves given that the thing is understood in the epistemic reference frame in which it exists. Cups aren’t usually, if ever, quantum objects. Cups are composed of entities that at lower or higher levels of differentiation/integration act differently.
If a cup were moving near the speed of light, or shrunk to the quantum level or thrown into a black hole, there would be things about the nature of the cup that we couldn’t fully explain. I don’t live in those reference frames, but my reference frame exists, so a cup is known in itself (qua *cup*) in my reference frame. Is a molecule of H2O a collection water? How about a cup? Where’s the specific point in space-time where it changes from water to not-water? Water is what a mere collection of H20 can’t get to, but what a sufficient system of H20 interactions is. Infinity isn’t [-♾,♾] but (-♾,♾).
A cup isn’t fully explainable at the quantum level because it has mass, thus gravity. That is, the limit as the understanding of a cup approaches quantum gravity, which is infinitely unexplainable given our *current* understanding of experimental quantum mechanics, or some other unexplainable physics, is something real, given that there exists a reference frame that is conscious of it. We have to understand consciousness to understand how our reference frame exactly fits into the picture. Even then, I suppose that can’t rule out an evil demon or higher-order species, but nothing in our current level of existence can.
Either way, it doesn’t seem likely that a simulation of a cup as we understand it could exist without a god-like being, and unless you have an actually infinite amount of time, I don’t think you could have such a being.
im dead 90% of these comments are of the Wayne's world reject from the dark void of the 80s dimension part of the programing and i love it.
Aeor….truly it doesn’t get any better than this…how could SNL make a parody of it…it could never reach the level of ludicrousness of the ludicrousness of what it is
If someone is controling our lives I think it's more powerful than a computer simulation. We are limited and we can't imagine something different.
@i Syndicates the simulation argument can be logically be disproved in many ways.
@i Syndicates Plato's Cave. Have you escaped yet?
There is no one except you who controls your reality. The essence of the natural simulation is to evolve its mind to such a degree that it becomes self-aware and woke up in understanding that all that exists - is itself, is you.
@@hajorm.a3474 I will be glad to hear at least one of the arguments against the simulation :)
@@lexastron So a jail sentence is totally under your control?
Hope that your character is saved to the main server before the next expansion. LOL
Yes, completely and in the real world this guy is a rock star...
This is what I'd expect the creator of our universe to look like coming down into our programmed world and tell us what it is.
at 1.5 speed it’s a metal song
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What if it's played backwards? Satan speaks! 😀
David Chalmers aka Reb Beach when is the next Winger album coming out?
Wow... you're right. I love the solo for Headed for a Heartbreak, and met Reb once, so take my upvote. BTW, This interview is actually like 12-13 years old. Dude looks way different now.
This guy's eyecontact is out of this world.
David Chalmers is a genius and a handsome Thinker.
I like the smile of Robert Lawrence Kuhn. Let the world smiles often, God bless everyone.
He sure will
LOL
That guy looks like a rock guitarist lol i always thought it’s a thumbnail of rock guitar or something relate to what i watched 😂😂😂
How do we even know if whatever we're looking at IS a "mistake" or "bug" in the simulation?
My hot take;
If it's a simulation, that implied it can be HacKeD... we should prolly look at how to do THAT...
Could consciousness and free will be so called "glitches" in simulated or consciously programmed universe?
@i Syndicates for a simulation, conscious programming could be a glitch.
@i Syndicates simulation could be consciously programmed
@i Syndicates a Spirit or God consciously program simulated universe
This is a glitch
The 70s look give s it away
Tom Campbell has arranged experiments around this subject. Check him out. Former NASA physicist who studies Consciousness.
He's not just weird. He's the dude who coined the phrase "The hard problem" claiming that we cannot solve, or even imagine what kind of solution could work, for "mind"/body construction.
You bring the ointment, he'll bring the fly. You bring the works, he'll bring the spanner. He dresses very hallowe'en but he's a lot more dangerous than he looks,.
6:19 spot on
In my opinion the foundational level of reality is mathematics/probability. All the other 'planes' are dependent upon mathematical precision and chaos of probability. It is not a coincidence that every part of reality is perfectly fitting to laws of mathematics.
Do we live in a computer simulation? It is plausible but I don't know if 'computer' is an appropriate word. I think the requirements to simulate our Universe is far beyond capability of any computer. This is something much more fundamental. We shouldn't be inducing general theory based on contemporary understanding of technology.
Imagination - Process of Pure Creation
The process of creation starts with thought
- an idea, conception, visualization. Everything you see was once someone's idea. Nothing exists in your world that did not first exist as pure thought.
This is true of the universe as well.
Thought is the first level of creation.
Next comes the word. Everything you say is a thought expressed. It is creative and sends forth creative energy into the universe. Words are more dynamic (thus, some might say more creative) than thought, because words are a different level of vibration from thought. They disrupt (change, alter, affect) the universe with greater impact.
Words are the second level of creation.
Next comes action.
Actions are words moving. Words are thoughts expressed. Thoughts are ideas formed. Ideas are energies come together. Energies are forces released. Forces are elements existent. Elements are particles of God, portions of ALL, the stuff of everything.
The beginning is God. The end is action. Action is God creating - or God experienced.
Hang on. There's one thing more I have to tell you. You are always seeing what by your terms you would define as the "past," even when you are looking at what is right in front of you.
I am?
It is impossible to see The Present. The Present "happens," then turns into a burst of light, formed by energy dispersing, and that light reaches your receptors, your eyes, and it takes time for it to do that.
All the while the light is reaching you, life is going on, moving forward. The next event is happening while the light from the last event is reaching you.
The energy burst reaches your eyes, your receptors send that signal to your brain, which interprets the data and tells you what you are seeing. Yet that is not what is now in front of you at all. It is what you think you are seeing. That is, you are thinking about what you have seen, telling yourself what it is, and deciding what you are going to call it, while what is happening "now" is preceding your process, and awaiting it.
To put this simply, I am always one step ahead of you.
My God, this is unbelievable.
Now listen. The more distance you place between your Self and the physical location of any event, the further into the "past" that event recedes. Place yourself a few light-years back, and what you are looking at happened very, very long ago, indeed.
Yet it did not happen "long ago." It is merely physical distance which has created the illusion of "time," and allowed you to experience your Self as being both "here, now" all the while you are being "there, then"!
One day you will see that what you call time and space are the same thing.
Then you will see that everything is happening right here, right now.
This is....this is....wild. I mean, I don't know what to make of all this.
When you understand what I have told you, you will understand that nothing you see is real. You are seeing the image of what was once an event, yet even that image, that energy burst, is something you are interpreting. Your personal interpretation of that image is called your image-ination.
And you can use your imagination to create anything. Because - and here is the greatest secret of all - your image-ination works both ways.
Please?
You not only interpret energy, you create it. Imagination is a function of your mind, which is one-third of your three-part being. In your mind you image something, and it begins to take physical form. The longer you image it (and the more OF you who image it), the more physical that form becomes, until the increasing energy you have given it literally bursts into light, flashing an image of itself into what you call your reality.
You then "see" the image, and once again decide what it is. Thus, the cycle continues. This is what I have called The Process.
This is what YOU ARE. You ARE this Process.
This is what I have meant when I have said, you are both the Creator and the Created.
I have now brought it all together for you. We are concluding this dialogue, and I have explained to you the mechanics of the universe, the secret of all life.
Okay.
Now as energy coalesced, it becomes, as I said, very concentrated. But the further one moves from the point of this concentration, the more dissipated the energy becomes. The "air becomes thinner." The aura fades. The energy never completely disappears, because it cannot. It is the stuff of which everything is made. It's All There Is. Yet it can become very, very thin, very subtle - almost "not there."
Then, in another place (read that, another part of Itself) it can again coalesce, once more "clumping together" to form what you call matter, and what "looks like" a discreet unit. Now the two units appear separate from each other, and in truth there is no separation at all.
This is, in very, very simple and elementary terms, the explanation behind the whole physical universe.
Wow. But can it be true? How do I know I haven't just made this all up?
Your scientists are already discovering that the building blocks of all of life are the same.
They brought back rocks from the moon and found the same stuff they find in trees. They take apart a tree and find the same stuff they find in you.
I tell you this: We are all the same stuff. (I and the Father are One Energy)
We are the same energy, coalesced, compressed in different ways to create different forms and different matter.
Nothing "matters" in and of itself. That is, nothing can become matter all by itself. Jesus said, "Without the Father, I am nothing." The Father of all is pure thought. This is the energy of life. This is what you have chosen to call Absolute Love.
This is the God and the Goddess, the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. It is the All-in-All, the Unmoved Mover, the Prime Source. It is that which you have sought to understand from the beginning of time. The Great Mystery, the Endless Enigma, the Eternal Truth.
There is only One of Us, and so, it is THAT WHICH YOU ARE.
This guy looks very cool and smart!
We know of this as a possibility, but I don't see how we could ever understand its nature or get much in the way of confirmation or control ?? We measure everything based on laws in this universe/simulation, but couldn't they be entirely different elsewhere? Haha I just feel agnostic on this, like there's nowhere else to go beyond acknowledging it as a possibility, but maybe I don't understand it properly? I guess nothing can be ruled out in our relationship with the "higher world(s)" and how we could hypothetically engage with them.