In a way, it was kinda sad. Since Palpatine controlled both situations, both clones and droids had to fight one another because of the government's orders. Both of their leaders betrayed both of the groups.
@@TheMail518it’s even sadder when you consider that the droids were capable of developing their own personalities and feelings. That’s why they were periodically wiped. To prevent them from becoming aware enough of their actions.
What I find fascinating about this episode is that we finally see how everyone outside of "main characters" really thinks about The Clone Wars. Even someone as far up and as informed as Rex doesn't know the whole story. He didn't tell the very shrewd Super Tactical Droid who figured out something funny was going on but didn't figure out everything. If he had he would have realized that there was no need to fight people who were technically on the same side. Palpatine does know the whole story of The Clone Wars. Vader might as well. Kenobi, Yoda, and maybe Ahsoka and Maul know the whole story but beyond that it seems like no one gets what the Clone Wars were really all about. But regular people like Zeb and Ezra? They just know that one day the war between the CIS and Republic...just stopped. In as strange and as vague a fashion as it started.
@@higztv1166 But even then they wouldn't get the whole story. If they did, then they are either in a tight circle group with the Emperor or they were executed.
I feel so bad for Battle Droids. They're actually such nice droids (like the one that apologized to Zeb) they were just programmed to fight an unjust cause.
Actually, part of the point of the story is that they were programmed to fight a JUST cause. The Republic was corrupt to the core, which is why Palpatine was able to manipulate it and overthrow it. The problem was he had planned ahead and the CIS leadership was largely infiltrated by his pawns, including Dooku as one of the primary leaders. He deliberately sabotaged the war effort of the CIS and ensured the Republic would wipe them out, getting rid of any potential troublemakers (as well as a large source of opposition to the eventual Empire) in advance of taking over. Then he used the clones to wipe out the Jedi and created the Empire using that "crisis" as an excuse and retired the clones since he didn't need them any more and their loyalty had been to the Republic.
@@GMSirLawrence yes, bot all of them but if the main brain of the confederation was a sith, no matter how noble the commanders were they were sacrificed. I read from one comic where palpatine orcestrated one separatist admiral because he was too good and noble.
Erza is by far the best Star Wars character when he ask the biggest question to the two Clone wars character that never thought of it. “If none of you won, who did?
'both weak enough, then the empire took over' think your history might be a bit off there Ezra, the clones were plenty strong because if they weren't the empire wouldn't have even been established
Bigglesworthicus In a way he's not wrong. I mean the war changed everyone's views about aliens and Jedi etc, to the point where Palpatine could easily come in and "save" everyone. So in a way, the wars had weakened everything and everyone.
I know I'm late but he's also talking about how the clones were forced to kill their Jedi companions and since they fulfilled their true purpose, they were deemed obselete and were replaced by Stormtroopers. So the clones didn't win either.
Ezra was referring to Rex, who was committed to the Republic and removed his inhibitor chip so as to not be effected by Order 66. The Republic was institutionally weakened by the Clone Wars, so he's not wrong... from a certain point of view.
Bigglesworthicus yes, but the clones eventually did get weaker over the course of their service to the republic/ empire due to their accelerated aging. THAT led to naturally-born stormtroopers taking over (the empire in this case, since most clones are considered Republic soldiers)
Also Palpatine was playing both sides from the beginning. His apprentice Dooku was essentially commanding the opposing separatist war effort, so they were never even supposed to win.
Something I just realized, is that most Seperatist droid's prime directive was, word for word "liberate planets from the tyranny of the Republic", and all it would take to make them question their programming, thus stalling them, would be to have them define the technical term of tyranny and have them compare it to the current situation (take Christophsis or Ryloth for example), where more often than not, the Seperatists were utilizing tyrannical tactics.
Most of the separatist worlds had very legitimate grievances with the Republic, the mere action of going to war to reclaim secessionist worlds is tyrannical for a republic, and the droids would thus easily reconcile the means with the ends.
@@stephenbyrne2170the flaw with the separatists was that they all wanted independance from the Republic but for different reasons Some wantes to profit from a galaxy without a central government to do whatever they wanted, but others simply wanted to rule themselves without having to rely on a negligent and corrupt Republic that took everything in exchange of nothing Remember Palpatine didnt make the Republic corrupt, it was already stagnant and inefficient lomg before he became Chancellor
I always love this quote: the enemy of my enemy is my friend Those episodes are awesome. In the Clone Wars tv show, Dooku and the Jedi had to temporarily align against the pirates. In this episode, clones and droids are against the empire. It definitely mixes things up. Asajj Ventress and Obiwan against Maul and Savage. Ahsoka temporarily teamed up with Maul in both Rebels and Clone Wars (Clone wars was when clones turned against them and they had to unite). In rebels, Ahsoka was aligned with Maul against the sith inquistors
It's agitating that whatever side won the war, Palpatine wins. If Separatists defeated the Republic, Palpatine would still win and change into Darth Sidious forever (since the Republic would've died lol) Either way, the republic dies and is used by Sidious
It was a stupid decision to not have his squad join the rebels. Would have been cool to have a Droid squad against the empire in the briefing room with all the other rebels.
General Kalani: This is that first I've seen a Star Destroyer 1:01 The Separatist droids lost leaders and their planets to the Empire I think that robot knows the Republic became the Empire.
If you think about it, the Rebels and Separatists aren't too different from each other: -Both seceded from the ruling government, due to them being disillusioned about the way they were being treated by it -Both declare themselves as an independent group (Confederacy of Independent Systems, Alliance of Free Planets) -Both plan to take down the government -Both use more curve-shaped ships against the triangular Star Destroyers of the galactic government
I think Dave Filoni said something along the lines of Kalani joining the Hutts for missions and then joining the Rebels after the destruction of the first Death Star
Ezra was right. Neither the Republic or the Separatists won the Clone Wars. The Empire won because it destroyed the Republic from the inside, thanks to Palpatine. I'd be happy if General Kalani and his droid army joined the Rebellion.
Four things about how the Clone Wars ended : 1. The Jedi was wiped out after they were betrayed by the Clone sduring Order 66. 2. The Clones were decommisioned for they have no more uses. 3. The Droids Amry was shutdown with the Separatists was destroyed. 4. The Old Republic has fallen and from the Ashes, the Empire has rise.
Palpatine created the empire as soon as the clone war ended. The empire became the dominating power over the galaxy after the war. So yes, the empire won.
In korea,we call this situation as '어부지리'. It means 'The fisherman got a whole benefits'. And its also used as a political word. I think it is a right term for The Empire took over both Republic and Seperatist with ease.
Freedom from tyranny? No way. I grew up with most of the Clone Wars seasons, I know firsthand what the Separatist member races were like. They weren't revolutionaries. They wanted absolute power.
Its a good question. Why if no of you won, who did? The same if you ask in history the rest of an byzantine-roman and sassanide-persian forces. They fight so long eachother that a 3 faction destroy them as they were weak. In star wars its the empire, in our history the islamic arabs.
In a way Ezra is not wrong. Both the clones and droids were weak enough because almost all the clones were too weak to fight off the inhibitor chips and they were lost to the empire after executing almost all Jedi. Almost all the droids except for Kalani’s army were too weak to resist the shutdown order after Order 66 was executed. Both of them were no use for the Empire and the clones were replaced by human Stormtroopers and the battle droids were replaced by imperial droids! None of them won the clone wars because RIGHT when Grievous died, Anakin betrayed the Jedi Order (causing the deaths of Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin, and Mace Windu) and Sidious executed the order. Fives tried to warn everyone but no one listened!!!
What ever happened to Super Tactical Droid and remaining forces? I would have like to seen a future episode where they found a abandoned factory to replenish it's forces.
Where some see complications others try to see a simple version. Also when Ezra said when both armies were weak enough: stating that the Jedi were powerful warriors, clones were physical and mentally trained, and Droids had programming. But both droids and clones were expensive to make, why do you think the republic and sepertist were almost went to bankruptcy?
It wouldn't have worked during the actual clone wars, since during the actual Clone Wars there was no Empire and Ezra would have been on the side of the Republic.
i find it funny when the droid turned his blaster away from zeb, he actually apologised.
It was kinda funny, and the voice.... Heh heh
Another polite droid, just like the one from ROTS that even said "excuse me" and "you're welcome" when he handed over the lightsabers to Grievous.
more than funny, i think it's actually kinda cute how they're so polite sometimes
Despite being war machines, they kinda were nice at times, when not ordered to kill.
@@LTRX_ that last one wasn’t said in a very nice tone
Omg,those stormtroopers killed those droids with one precise shot.
Unfortunately, the plot armor was not with them
one of the stomtrooper has a clone voice
jh 64 really
@@yapyapthedestroyer2562 yea it sound like dee
jh 64 oh
Seeing droids and clones together brings back so much nostalgia. .this episode was lowkey dope
In a way, it was kinda sad. Since Palpatine controlled both situations, both clones and droids had to fight one another because of the government's orders. Both of their leaders betrayed both of the groups.
@@TheMail518it’s even sadder when you consider that the droids were capable of developing their own personalities and feelings.
That’s why they were periodically wiped.
To prevent them from becoming aware enough of their actions.
What I find fascinating about this episode is that we finally see how everyone outside of "main characters" really thinks about The Clone Wars. Even someone as far up and as informed as Rex doesn't know the whole story. He didn't tell the very shrewd Super Tactical Droid who figured out something funny was going on but didn't figure out everything. If he had he would have realized that there was no need to fight people who were technically on the same side. Palpatine does know the whole story of The Clone Wars. Vader might as well. Kenobi, Yoda, and maybe Ahsoka and Maul know the whole story but beyond that it seems like no one gets what the Clone Wars were really all about.
But regular people like Zeb and Ezra? They just know that one day the war between the CIS and Republic...just stopped. In as strange and as vague a fashion as it started.
I'm pretty sure that people from urban wealthy planets who had access to more information could piece most of it together
@@higztv1166 But even then they wouldn't get the whole story. If they did, then they are either in a tight circle group with the Emperor or they were executed.
I REALLY wish Kalani had a group of Commando Droids.
Kalani would've use them against Ezra, Rex and Kanan
@@DLopez-ml5eu Considering commando droids had vibro blades (lightsaber proof material) it'd be nice to see them fight blade to blade for once.
Or supers
Stormtroopers: we have At-Ats what's your weapon?
Kalani with reasources from
My wild imagination: *OCTUPTARRAS*
Or Droidekas and Super Droids too
I feel so bad for Battle Droids. They're actually such nice droids (like the one that apologized to Zeb) they were just programmed to fight an unjust cause.
Actually, part of the point of the story is that they were programmed to fight a JUST cause. The Republic was corrupt to the core, which is why Palpatine was able to manipulate it and overthrow it. The problem was he had planned ahead and the CIS leadership was largely infiltrated by his pawns, including Dooku as one of the primary leaders. He deliberately sabotaged the war effort of the CIS and ensured the Republic would wipe them out, getting rid of any potential troublemakers (as well as a large source of opposition to the eventual Empire) in advance of taking over. Then he used the clones to wipe out the Jedi and created the Empire using that "crisis" as an excuse and retired the clones since he didn't need them any more and their loyalty had been to the Republic.
Freedom and independence from Galactic Republic's corruption and tyranny.
It suits well for me.
@@GMSirLawrenceyes but their real leaders had no interest to those things. They were only cannon fodder for Sith to take ower the galaxy.
@@rikuvakevainen6157 Not all Separatis leaders were Sith's puppets.
@@GMSirLawrence yes, bot all of them but if the main brain of the confederation was a sith, no matter how noble the commanders were they were sacrificed. I read from one comic where palpatine orcestrated one separatist admiral because he was too good and noble.
The droid who ran away shooting in the air then crushed by a walker had me dead😂
O my God
I love how they brought back the comedy of the battle droids that we loved in the clone wars
Erza is by far the best Star Wars character when he ask the biggest question to the two Clone wars character that never thought of it. “If none of you won, who did?
'both weak enough, then the empire took over'
think your history might be a bit off there Ezra, the clones were plenty strong because if they weren't the empire wouldn't have even been established
Bigglesworthicus In a way he's not wrong. I mean the war changed everyone's views about aliens and Jedi etc, to the point where Palpatine could easily come in and "save" everyone. So in a way, the wars had weakened everything and everyone.
I know I'm late but he's also talking about how the clones were forced to kill their Jedi companions and since they fulfilled their true purpose, they were deemed obselete and were replaced by Stormtroopers. So the clones didn't win either.
Ezra was referring to Rex, who was committed to the Republic and removed his inhibitor chip so as to not be effected by Order 66. The Republic was institutionally weakened by the Clone Wars, so he's not wrong... from a certain point of view.
Bigglesworthicus yes, but the clones eventually did get weaker over the course of their service to the republic/ empire due to their accelerated aging. THAT led to naturally-born stormtroopers taking over (the empire in this case, since most clones are considered Republic soldiers)
Also Palpatine was playing both sides from the beginning. His apprentice Dooku was essentially commanding the opposing separatist war effort, so they were never even supposed to win.
1:57 God in canon 💀
It is a stock quote too. You'll hear the droid that falls off the cliff in The Clone Wars movie using the same quote.
Something I just realized, is that most Seperatist droid's prime directive was, word for word "liberate planets from the tyranny of the Republic", and all it would take to make them question their programming, thus stalling them, would be to have them define the technical term of tyranny and have them compare it to the current situation (take Christophsis or Ryloth for example), where more often than not, the Seperatists were utilizing tyrannical tactics.
Most of the separatist worlds had very legitimate grievances with the Republic, the mere action of going to war to reclaim secessionist worlds is tyrannical for a republic, and the droids would thus easily reconcile the means with the ends.
Geonosis, Umbara, Mandalore: allow us to introduce ourselfs
The Seperatists weren't revolutionaries. They wanted absolute power.
@@stephenbyrne2170the flaw with the separatists was that they all wanted independance from the Republic but for different reasons
Some wantes to profit from a galaxy without a central government to do whatever they wanted, but others simply wanted to rule themselves without having to rely on a negligent and corrupt Republic that took everything in exchange of nothing
Remember Palpatine didnt make the Republic corrupt, it was already stagnant and inefficient lomg before he became Chancellor
They said REPUBLIC tyranny. Not tyranny in general.
The droids really REALLY should have joined the rebellion.
Yeah
Unfortunately because of Original trilogy, this idea will never happen
But as a Clone Wars/Prequel fan I wanted this to happen in alternate universe
They should.
Someone should make an AU comic or video series about that.
2:38 Battle Droids are Canadian confirmed.
Rex: AYYY Wait a minute.
Kanan: Hold on, let him cook.
Ezra helped both sides see who the real enemy was, that being the empire. A pretty sharp kid!!
This episode brought back all of the CloneWars nestalgia. I love it. I also liked seeing Ezra and Zeb’s perspective on it.
I always love this quote: the enemy of my enemy is my friend
Those episodes are awesome. In the Clone Wars tv show, Dooku and the Jedi had to temporarily align against the pirates. In this episode, clones and droids are against the empire. It definitely mixes things up. Asajj Ventress and Obiwan against Maul and Savage.
Ahsoka temporarily teamed up with Maul in both Rebels and Clone Wars (Clone wars was when clones turned against them and they had to unite). In rebels, Ahsoka was aligned with Maul against the sith inquistors
Ahhh... Palpatine won the war
Not hard when he's the one that started it.
@@ThePathStrider tell that to Germany
@@ashtray8173 Hitler wasn't playing both sides like a puppet master.
It's agitating that whatever side won the war, Palpatine wins. If Separatists defeated the Republic, Palpatine would still win and change into Darth Sidious forever (since the Republic would've died lol)
Either way, the republic dies and is used by Sidious
@@ThePathStriderhe didn’t just start it.
He CONTROLLED it.
He played BOTH sides.
Like pieces on a chess board.
It was a stupid decision to not have his squad join the rebels. Would have been cool to have a Droid squad against the empire in the briefing room with all the other rebels.
True. Although Dave Filoni basically confirmed that the General would've joined the Rebellion after the destruction of the first Death Star.
General Kalani: This is that first I've seen a Star Destroyer 1:01
The Separatist droids lost leaders and their planets to the Empire
I think that robot knows the Republic became the Empire.
If you think about it, the Rebels and Separatists aren't too different from each other:
-Both seceded from the ruling government, due to them being disillusioned about the way they were being treated by it
-Both declare themselves as an independent group (Confederacy of Independent Systems, Alliance of Free Planets)
-Both plan to take down the government
-Both use more curve-shaped ships against the triangular Star Destroyers of the galactic government
I love the separatists droids they teamed up against the rebels
I Wonder if the super tatical droid joined the rebelion after the destrucstion of the first death star
He probaly did after hearing about it and thinking that their odds might of gone up after
I think Dave Filoni said something along the lines of Kalani joining the Hutts for missions and then joining the Rebels after the destruction of the first Death Star
Ezra was right. Neither the Republic or the Separatists won the Clone Wars. The Empire won because it destroyed the Republic from the inside, thanks to Palpatine. I'd be happy if General Kalani and his droid army joined the Rebellion.
dave filoni said that he would after the first death star was destroyed
2:39 "Sorry" 😂
Four things about how the Clone Wars ended :
1. The Jedi was wiped out after they were betrayed by the Clone sduring Order 66.
2. The Clones were decommisioned for they have no more uses.
3. The Droids Amry was shutdown with the Separatists was destroyed.
4. The Old Republic has fallen and from the Ashes, the Empire has rise.
Is their any comic or something where a droid army joins the rebellion or fights storm troopers? I think its such a awesome idea
I love it when the b1 thats was pointing the gun says sorry when they team up
0:52 you mean basic history Ezra?😂
It was worth it for the rebel group and the Separatist union to work together.
No Ezra a little off the empire didn’t win, the rebel alliance didn’t win, nor the republic or the separatists. It was just palpatine.
Palpatine who just likes to play around.
Palpatine created the empire as soon as the clone war ended. The empire became the dominating power over the galaxy after the war. So yes, the empire won.
I guess there is no such thing as a timeless enemy
The past repeats itself just back in 3636 BBY
the kiss cartoon watermark in the top left is just so cool
I love battle droids
In korea,we call this situation as '어부지리'. It means 'The fisherman got a whole benefits'. And its also used as a political word.
I think it is a right term for The Empire took over both Republic and Seperatist with ease.
Er like killing 2 birds with 1 stone ?
@@drifter4trainingYup. '일석이조', that's what we also said.
General Kilani knows why the clone wars was both sides before clone operation 66 on the Jedi and beginnings of the Galactic Empire
Morality triumphs over ignorance!
I would’ve loved for Kalani to come to Ezra’s aid during the final battle on Lothal and fight Thrawn with a CIS fleet.
Freedom from tyranny? No way. I grew up with most of the Clone Wars seasons, I know firsthand what the Separatist member races were like. They weren't revolutionaries. They wanted absolute power.
count dooku and general grievous kinda twisted the ideologies of the CIS tbf
Erza has a fair point nether them win the clone's war's day's
Its a good question. Why if no of you won, who did? The same if you ask in history the rest of an byzantine-roman and sassanide-persian forces. They fight so long eachother that a 3 faction destroy them as they were weak. In star wars its the empire, in our history the islamic arabs.
In a way Ezra is not wrong. Both the clones and droids were weak enough because almost all the clones were too weak to fight off the inhibitor chips and they were lost to the empire after executing almost all Jedi. Almost all the droids except for Kalani’s army were too weak to resist the shutdown order after Order 66 was executed. Both of them were no use for the Empire and the clones were replaced by human Stormtroopers and the battle droids were replaced by imperial droids! None of them won the clone wars because RIGHT when Grievous died, Anakin betrayed the Jedi Order (causing the deaths of Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin, and Mace Windu) and Sidious executed the order. Fives tried to warn everyone but no one listened!!!
you are right
@@Kevin-fq9wt and Bad Batch season two proved it!!!
Shades of Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ashoka fighting the droids.
Probably one of the few good episodes of rebels
What ever happened to Super Tactical Droid and remaining forces? I would have like to seen a future episode where they found a abandoned factory to replenish it's forces.
From the sounds of it they kinda bounced around the galaxy for a while until after the battle of yavin when they joined up with the alliance
1:40 difference of ex-clone and the 3 are recruited ones I guess,,
1:56
What I can’t understand is…
HOW DID THEY NOT NOTICE A GIANT METAL CAMEL ABOVE THEM?!
Sometimes, I want to compare Kalani and Shockwave from Transformers. They are both similar somehow
Imagine if he has some super battle droids
So it's actually that simple to resolve the clone wars... A kid could do it by just saying a few lines..
Where some see complications others try to see a simple version.
Also when Ezra said when both armies were weak enough: stating that the Jedi were powerful warriors, clones were physical and mentally trained, and Droids had programming.
But both droids and clones were expensive to make, why do you think the republic and sepertist were almost went to bankruptcy?
It wouldn't have worked during the actual clone wars, since during the actual Clone Wars there was no Empire and Ezra would have been on the side of the Republic.
@@Coyoteprime Dooku was quite rich,plus Sidious being a high funder
@@Coyoteprime The separatists never into bankruptcy the whole point of the droid army was that they were cheap to manufacture
Who else would like to see this as a battlefront map
I never seen this episode before I would like to see it.
The jedi,...only peace keepers who are in prepetual war
When you're a Gary stue everyone at some point likes you, gives you many chances, and you fave little to no threats
CIS would have won the war if Palpatine wasn’t ploting
(Captain Rex) Aw, wait a minute. 2:03
Or butter yet battle droids join the rebellion
This is what Caine was right *"That Prick was a Cheater"*
They need to bring General Kalani back for the live action universe.
Would be cool to have him fight alongside Ezra.
Freedom 😂😂😂
B1-268!! NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never seen imperial ships before 1:02
I wish Kanan didn’t die
0:56
2:36
So who win the clone war
Palpatine did
The Sith
When dumb meets dumber
WQRTC
0:34