Yu-Gi-Oh! - Vehicroid Archetype

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  • @Gg66dolphin
    @Gg66dolphin 4 місяці тому +193

    You can't give Syrus too much grief for combining roids and Cyberdark/Dragons when you have Chazz mashing THREE archetypes together in some Frankenstein monster of a deck

    • @GreenDinoRanger
      @GreenDinoRanger 4 місяці тому +36

      In Chazz's defence, he had anime-exclusive cards that made the Ojamas work well with his V-Z machines. Syrus had nothing that made his deck synergise with other archetypes or really anything effective against an opponent that didn't just rely on a single boss monster.

    • @VampirePrinceKRS
      @VampirePrinceKRS 4 місяці тому +12

      exactly. the Archetype's Syrus put together are all Machines. so even if he needs some random Dragon cards thrown in to just get the Cyberdark archetype to be it's very best the rest of his cards basically just need Machine support & can easily go together.

    • @TheWizardMus
      @TheWizardMus 4 місяці тому +20

      Yeah but he's The Chazz

    • @CyborgCharlotte
      @CyborgCharlotte 4 місяці тому +4

      @@TheWizardMusChazz The Chadd :P

    • @deuntaethomas7437
      @deuntaethomas7437 4 місяці тому

      I mean that's really any duelist

  • @marsella527
    @marsella527 4 місяці тому +36

    Honestly, hearing Zane laugh in the background is legit one of the funniest GX things I've heard (minus Zaloog Walken)

    • @jakew6162
      @jakew6162 4 місяці тому +2

      Zane knows Cyrus deck is lame😂

  • @DamianQualshy
    @DamianQualshy 4 місяці тому +18

    One of the best parts of this video was that one message from twitch chat
    "This deck has potential I swear"

    • @MarioMastar
      @MarioMastar 3 місяці тому

      SOMEONE will pull off that Flying elephant win in a legit duel.... SOMEONE will. XD

  • @dudebladeX
    @dudebladeX 4 місяці тому +193

    Unlike archetypes like Crystal Beast or Cyberdark, which modern support made go from OK to can lock the opponent if played right, Vehicroids would need a complete overhaul to make viable. Nothing about them synergies with the end strategy, and the lack of searchers and viable boss monsters. They didn't get an E - Emergency Call to let them get their monsters to their hand. They didn't get a Cyber Repair Plant to recycle their stuff. They just kinda tripped and kept tripping. I get that it's based off the Little Engine that Could, but in this case, it's not a steep mountain that Vehicroids are trying to surmount, it's a vertical wall.

    • @ViperRaiyu
      @ViperRaiyu 4 місяці тому +31

      They need the Gaia treatment. Make an entirely new core of cards to make it playable. The old Gaia support that was tied down to BLS was unplayable, but the new Magical Knight stuff makes it pretty okay. Vehicroids need a hard reboot like that.

    • @EvErLoyaLEagLE
      @EvErLoyaLEagLE 4 місяці тому +6

      more like trying to climb the inside of a giant stone wheel

    • @r3zaful
      @r3zaful 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@ViperRaiyui saw an article about vehicroid in japanese, it use vernalizers engine and expressroid recovery as ammo.

  • @WilliamHasMelted
    @WilliamHasMelted 4 місяці тому +92

    I see Kiteroid so often in Duel Links that I'm SHOCKED to see its not been printed in real life

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 4 місяці тому +1

      O
      M
      G

    • @cuauhtemocgonzales2530
      @cuauhtemocgonzales2530 4 місяці тому +4

      Lol one of the best Roid monster there is! I wish it was real though. Hopefully they can print it as a Speed Duel card

    • @FSKyurem
      @FSKyurem 4 місяці тому +2

      I often joke about Kiteroid when I’m playing Master Duel because of its exclusiveness to Duel Links

    • @deuntaethomas7437
      @deuntaethomas7437 4 місяці тому +1

      I am just as shocked

    • @thedarkspirit5084
      @thedarkspirit5084 2 місяці тому +1

      To think that Kiteroid is still relevant to today's Duel Link Meta Decks because of Link Monsters and stopping their attacks.
      Because I use Sphere Kuriboh protection and battle position change. But does nothing against Link Monster attacks.

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 4 місяці тому +136

    This gives me an idea…
    You know how a lot of Superheroes have their own iconic vehicles (The Batmobile, the Invisible Jet, The Spider Buggy, etc…)
    I was thinking that HERO monsters can have their own “HERO-Mobile” Roid monsters that would serve as their own vehicles of choice. Especially since their users were besties in the GX anime.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 4 місяці тому +32

      Burst Bike!
      Bubble Boat!
      Spark Scooter!
      Wild Wheelboard!!!

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 4 місяці тому +4

      Make it Rider Fusion!
      1 on your field and 1 in your Hand!

    • @FlushedTTV
      @FlushedTTV 4 місяці тому +3

      Well, I create custom cards for fun. Let's see how this turns out

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 4 місяці тому +4

      @@FlushedTTV
      Well let’s start with mashing together existing monsters…
      Maybe Avian gets his own Jetroid? And it has effects that mash together, like Jetroids own + “Feather Shot”?

    • @luckypikachu4892
      @luckypikachu4892 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Ramsey276one Avian Airplane

  • @thepanelbiter9915
    @thepanelbiter9915 4 місяці тому +167

    I love this archetype aesthetically. It reminds me of Pixar’s Cars or just toy cars from my childhood. I wish they got a serious update.

    • @RFDN0
      @RFDN0 4 місяці тому +5

      The newest fusion monster is a reference to power rangers.

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 4 місяці тому +7

      @@RFDN0 And Stealth Union is GaoGaiGar.

    • @brandonscott5544
      @brandonscott5544 4 місяці тому +2

      PIXAR CARS COMPARISON.

    • @JEZ346
      @JEZ346 4 місяці тому +2

      It reminds me more of the Astro mega ship from Power Rangers in space

    • @dom8429
      @dom8429 4 місяці тому +1

      serious question: can they update yugioh cards? I feel like once printed you can't add 'counts as vehicroid' to new prints because what if I still have an old one where this is not stated?

  • @FruityGroovy
    @FruityGroovy 4 місяці тому +47

    Should point out that Super Vehicroid - Stealth Union is actually a reference to one of most popular mechs in the Brave series, GaoGaiGar. All of its fusion materials is a reference to the different machines that make up GaoGaiGar, except for Truckroid, who takes the place of Galeon/GaiGar.

    • @genesisera8364
      @genesisera8364 4 місяці тому +5

      They really made a GaoGaiGar reference and then make it suck, huh.

    • @SenseiRaisen
      @SenseiRaisen 2 місяці тому +1

      @@genesisera8364 sadly.

    • @SenseiRaisen
      @SenseiRaisen 2 місяці тому +1

      Also the new one looks a reference to Metroplex from Transformers.

  • @squeaksqueakimaknight
    @squeaksqueakimaknight 4 місяці тому +39

    If Konami simply just did a mass naming overhaul and made the names of all the cards in the archetype into "Vehicroid" cards, it would easily fix a chunk of the archetype's issues

    • @laszlokaszas1003
      @laszlokaszas1003 4 місяці тому +4

      But it's funny that Dark Jeroid also part of it

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts 4 місяці тому +7

      I mean
      If they made summoned skull and og gazelle part of archetypes by including "this card is also always treated as an x archetype card" , it can work with these too and, it could indeed fix a lot
      But if they need a gameplan, or a way to get salvation, they need *really good support* repaired genex controller style, you know?
      Either than or a structure deck R

    • @MarioMastar
      @MarioMastar 3 місяці тому

      THey did fix Frog the Jam after all this time by renaming it Slime Toad to FINALLY be able to remove the "Except Frog the Jam" line from every frog card. Though I guess now it's a "Toad" card but I don't think it had issues with Toads (even though the monster is not a Toad either, it's explicitly named that according to the flavor text). Plus something similar happened in the German (or Korean?) version where one card due to a language specific grammatical change caused the card to have a far more powerful effect than any other language, so people would literally import that version of the card in thier deck with a note translating what it did so they could play the superior version until they fixed it with a reprint.

  • @PairOfHands3301
    @PairOfHands3301 4 місяці тому +16

    I love that they looked at Vehicroids, gave them UFOroid which is a machine searching version of Giant Rat and co.
    And their reaction was "this will be game breaking. Make it a level 6 1200/1200 monster stat!"

    • @bibigamer502
      @bibigamer502 4 місяці тому

      The 1200/1200 kinda makes sense but why level 6?

    • @genesisera8364
      @genesisera8364 4 місяці тому

      @@bibigamer502 whom the fucketh knows?
      In the anime they had Syrus tribute Drillroid to summon it and then Syrus immediately goes into Power Bond to fuse UFOroid and Tempest into UFORoid Fighter so the battle destruction/floating effect literally never came up.
      [Even tho Power Bond also fusion summons with materials from the hand, so I assume it's for the viewers' benefit to see UFOroid hit the field at least once before it gets used as material so they know what it looks like]

  • @Kupomasters57
    @Kupomasters57 4 місяці тому +79

    Yeah once you play syrus archetype. You QUICKLY understand WHY the writers of GX gave syrus zanes archtypes.

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 4 місяці тому +33

      Also degraded Zanes character all together. Trying to claim Syrus surpassed Zane despite nothing of the sort happened

    • @MarioMastar
      @MarioMastar 3 місяці тому

      @@soukenmarufwt5224 Really is a shame. I saw no reason for Zane to go from a competent and respectful top duelist trying to help his horribly insecure brother get better through hints of tough love to a nearly broken man who needed power at all costs cause some prick named Aster Phoenix beat him and mobsters broke a deal with him. Syrus didn't even have any likeable qualities that made us WANT to see him surpass Zane or grow as a character. He always struck me as comic relief to the end because unlike Joey who really made it his mission to get better at duel monsters, Syrus never seemed like he wanted to get better by actually learning the game and studying his duels, heck he only got promoted to Ra Yellow because of a gambit from Crowler that had nothing to do with him and only served to push his rivalry with Hassleberry. I get the whole "Always in the shadow of my brother" but again....Syrus made NO effort to actaully GET better.... like maybe do some practice duels and really study when to best use Powerbond instead fo keeping it in his back pocket for a year and just HOPING the one time he plays it is good enough to impress Zane. NOT how you get good at a strategy game....
      Hehe still love the character though XD He's pathetic to a fault, but he's ... well... he's Zane's little brother!

  • @dragonmaster613
    @dragonmaster613 4 місяці тому +69

    Fusions that have specific materials may have been unplayable, but they made more sense than the non-specific summoning. Just look at Jumbo Drill, he actually looks like a combination of the three.

    • @theorycrafters7281
      @theorycrafters7281 4 місяці тому +2

      They only did it to make the game faster

    • @dragonmaster613
      @dragonmaster613 4 місяці тому +3

      @@theorycrafters7281 I understand that, but I'm just referring to everything else about it. Nitpicking for sure

    • @theorycrafters7281
      @theorycrafters7281 4 місяці тому +1

      Oh I feel ya

    • @TheGloryXros
      @TheGloryXros 4 місяці тому +12

      FACTS. I think a good middle-ground approach to this would be to still have generic Fusion Summons, but have an extra effect that can only be used if you CORRECTLY Fused for the Monster using its actual materials.

    • @kr555wizard
      @kr555wizard 4 місяці тому +5

      @@TheGloryXrosyeah like red eyes dragoon is kinda like this, you can fuse it with incorrect materials but its way stronger if you use the right materials

  • @connortheandroidsentbycybe7740
    @connortheandroidsentbycybe7740 4 місяці тому +7

    16:53 "This is one of the best vehicroid monsters because you can use it in a better deck" is such a damning assessment of the vehicroid deck

    • @MarioMastar
      @MarioMastar 3 місяці тому

      That's like why many archetypes were doomed. Ironic how a LOT of cards like Jet Synchron which were designed to fix a problem in THEIR archetype ended up being absolutely broken when used in more powerful decks. and they can't ban the money maker, power creep decks that everyone brings to tournaments, so they ban Jet Synchron. or Ancient Fairy Dragon because of a loop with a particular field spell that isn't possible in Duel Links cause she's not only at 3, she's technically at 6 thanks to ancient Pixie dragon being in the game too. Firewall dragon was preemptively limited but I don't think his loop works either.

  • @cbdrawer9527
    @cbdrawer9527 4 місяці тому +25

    I always find it nice that despite the roids not being so good, they had one of the most busted archetypal skill in Duel Links, letting you search out any roid that's listed on a Fusion material. Gives you nearly every monster in the deck you needed.

  • @thunderstarchampion
    @thunderstarchampion 4 місяці тому +29

    Fun obscure fact about Gyroid: in the old GX GBA game, Duel Academy, this was one of the cards in some the best Final Countdown deck, which allowed ya to grind a lot of that games currency

  • @kawaii_toast6662
    @kawaii_toast6662 4 місяці тому +12

    Fun fact: In yugioh master duel, all the stats on the vehicroid secret box are half that of the cyber dragons secret box.

    • @arenbuffaloe6578
      @arenbuffaloe6578 4 місяці тому +5

      Man... They really gotta tell the truth like that, huh?

  • @KingJetLi
    @KingJetLi 4 місяці тому +3

    "Do you know what I found out?" Hilariously gold.😂😂

  • @AJ_Steele
    @AJ_Steele 4 місяці тому +10

    Another way to fix the archetype is to just change the “roid” portion of their names to all capital letters like they did with the HERO archetype

  • @empresscarrie6230
    @empresscarrie6230 4 місяці тому +5

    this archetype was my absolute favorite as a kid. i spent a lot of time and my parents money pulling for this and all i had to show for it was an ultimate uforoid which to be fair i thought was the coolest.

  • @dee2273
    @dee2273 4 місяці тому +5

    The slow decent into madness that was displayed as you sacrificed your soul to play vehicle-roids is interesting

  • @ixiahj
    @ixiahj 4 місяці тому +9

    It was one of the few machine fusion archtypes back in the day so it took advantage of power bond and remove limiter. Too bad its own name screwed it over.

  • @ixiahj
    @ixiahj 4 місяці тому +10

    I remember their win condition was in the anime. Use vehicroid connection zone to summon jumbo drill then use remove limiter on it. VCZ makes it immune to self destruct. It becomes a 6k piercing beat stick that you couldn't destroy with effects. This was strong when you didn't have a lot of options to remove a tower like that. I also remember remove limiter was unlimited back then. Lol.

  • @TrevorAllenMD
    @TrevorAllenMD 4 місяці тому +25

    Convinced Konami just hates “best friend” characters with what they did to -Roids & Red-Eyes. It’s sad how bad they’ve made them. Least they could have done is try to allow some synergy between -Roids and Speedroids but Cy really not allowed to have nice things.

    • @nuttybuddy7928
      @nuttybuddy7928 4 місяці тому +12

      Counter point: Blackwings and Salamangreats belong to “best friend” characters

    • @r3zaful
      @r3zaful 4 місяці тому +6

      Last time they release good card for "Best friend" it ended with eldlitch summon dragun set 3 floodgate pass.
      If you make a singular good card for unsalvageable archetypes it will end up abused in other deck.

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@nuttybuddy7928technically Yusaku's bestie is Kusanagi

    • @ianbraun271
      @ianbraun271 4 місяці тому

      @@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Yup, and he got a weak Codebreaker deck. But at least he served some great tacos.

    • @Spanluver
      @Spanluver 3 місяці тому

      You are just salty that
      a) you didn’t get to see yugi clap joey and then donate his REBD back to him
      You know this to be true
      b) Joey lost when feeling the flame of Egyptian god in the shadow realm. He should have never been standing. That’s like saying Joey is better than a god
      Hahahahaha

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 4 місяці тому +19

    It's like Konami is going out of their way to make each wave of Vehicroid support bad and incompatible with each other
    The only other archetype who gets worse support is Red-Eyes

    • @bibigamer502
      @bibigamer502 4 місяці тому

      The funny thing is I actually like Red Eyes Black Dragon and feel bad for it

  • @rainbowdragon168
    @rainbowdragon168 4 місяці тому +77

    Please do the Libromancer archetype next. I would love to know what their lore is since it seems to be interesting. Also the reason why Shuttleroid was never printed internationally was basically because Konami may have violated the trademark or copyright on the U.S Space Shuttle when making the card and Konami is avoiding to print it or something like that

    • @azuredragon7415
      @azuredragon7415 4 місяці тому +4

      The gex archetype , besides jokes yeah the lore is actually really interesting so i would love to see it .

    • @rainbowdragon168
      @rainbowdragon168 4 місяці тому +3

      @@azuredragon7415Yeah the lore is interesting and I love playing with the deck in Master Duel

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 4 місяці тому +2

      Another Featherman incident...

    • @danielramsey6141
      @danielramsey6141 4 місяці тому

      So Why Won’t They Just RENAME IT THEN! Like ROCKET ROID! Or SPACE ROID!
      Seriously 🙄

    • @ajbXYZcool
      @ajbXYZcool 4 місяці тому

      ​@@danielramsey6141I don't think the name is the problem. I think it's the design of the monster itself.

  • @guinnessintheblood
    @guinnessintheblood 4 місяці тому +5

    I wonder if it was a mistake to keep these apart from Speedroids. It might be more personal, but I like it in games when two seemingly unrelated things work well together. Like how Necroid Shaman is shown in this video being a "Roid" Fusion monter, it just adds a lot of enjoyment for me

    • @zjzr08
      @zjzr08 3 місяці тому +2

      Knowing a "roid" archetype already existed makes me wonder why they still made the "Speedroid" in the firstplace rather than make a name that doesn't interfere with an existing one (especially also from a major anime character).

  • @megamanpwn3dmario
    @megamanpwn3dmario 4 місяці тому +3

    fun fact; super vehicroid Stealth union is a reference to GaoGaiGar, and 3 of the 4 monsters that make it up are identical to the machines in that show; the train, drill and jet. no lion for the main chest though.

    • @Yojimbo16
      @Yojimbo16 4 місяці тому

      It's the Stealth Plane, not the Jet that's used.
      Also as pointed out on the Yugioh Wiki, if you replace the Truck with the Jet, you can get GaoFighGar out of it.

  • @ethanjenkins5079
    @ethanjenkins5079 4 місяці тому +8

    I have fallen in LOVE with the Fallen Albaz and the SEVERAL archetypes that it pairs with. It also has a SUPER EXPANSIVE lore that would be a great undertaking to cover. I love using this card in masterduel and its boss monsters are hecka powerful.

  • @forgottenplayer7286
    @forgottenplayer7286 4 місяці тому +3

    So first things first, we need more fusion monsters, cards like patroid/jetroid/decoyroid should have more options to go into than pair cycroid or mobile base.
    Second, it'd be cool if they reworked some old cards like they did with Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon. They created "Neo Blue-eyes..."
    If they gave cards like steam gyroid a neo form to switch into more modern "Roid" decks, it'd make the card more viable. They can add it for pretty much all the lackluster cards. Give it Steamroid's effect, or make it easier to summon by updating the summoning conditions, maybe increase its attack or defense a bit.
    Third, they could also give these "Neo-Roid's" the (this is treated as a vehicroid) effect, making the fusion spell relevant again. This'll also give a win condition: create high atk monsters that are protected by the fusion spell, then swing over their opponent. Not the best win condition, but better than Pair Cycroid or Mobile base

  • @enlongjones2394
    @enlongjones2394 4 місяці тому +2

    They’ve made a bunch of cards that say “non-wind roid monster”, and then they keep making more wind roid monsters.

    • @bibigamer502
      @bibigamer502 4 місяці тому +1

      They like the roids as much as fire likes ice

  • @BlazingLee0610
    @BlazingLee0610 4 місяці тому +4

    Still love these cards. Would love to build an old school deck with them. Wanted to back in 2008 after the 5Ds starter deck released and I still do! Vehicroids need a total overhaul for today's Yu-Gi-Oh though.

  • @shutup611
    @shutup611 4 місяці тому +6

    Why didn't the support cards just say "Search for a roid monster except a speedroid" we see them do something like this with other cards notably any fusion search now says "except wave motion difusion"

  • @SowaraAkther1
    @SowaraAkther1 4 місяці тому +8

    Honestly, the Vehicroid had so much potential in my eyes. However, it was a train wreck to begin with. I'm hoping Konami can save this archetype, and they can with monsters like Kiteroid.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 4 місяці тому +1

      Hehe, "train wreck"

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts 4 місяці тому +1

      I mean they made genex have *a game plan* with a single link minster
      So perphaps..... it's not impossible

    • @draph91
      @draph91 4 місяці тому +1

      don't you mean a Steamroid wreck?

  • @mr2oxking
    @mr2oxking 4 місяці тому +5

    If they make some of the manga cards it will do a little better.
    The unfortunate thing is that any new support we get for this archetype will most likely connect it to the cyberdark archetype instead of its own archetype

  • @thexdatabase
    @thexdatabase 4 місяці тому +2

    15:38 cool artwork wasted
    and its a reference to gaogaigar

  • @carolynbossom2297
    @carolynbossom2297 4 місяці тому +3

    One of my personal favorite combos with this archetype is using chain material, and vehicroid connection zone. It's a bit slow, but this can cheat out all of their vehicroid fusions, while also being protected by chain materials destruction effect

  • @supervegito8340
    @supervegito8340 4 місяці тому +12

    Fun fact: the vehiroid support cards DONT JUST WORK FOR THEM. It uses the suffix “roid” so it works with nekROID shaman, speedROID as an archetype, and even more

  • @nziom
    @nziom 4 місяці тому +4

    They need a branded fusion like effect and that would barely be enough to make them playable

  • @ValianceGames
    @ValianceGames 4 місяці тому +1

    16:13 My eye literally twitched. Feels like Game Freak designed this archetype with how many monkey's paws there are

  • @bluegetsuga8396
    @bluegetsuga8396 4 місяці тому +7

    Challenge accepted. I'll make the best Vehicroid support the world has ever seen. Also, why is Mixeroid a wind monster? Why Konami, why?!

  • @benjam015
    @benjam015 4 місяці тому +2

    Super Vehicroid - Stealth Union is also a reference to GaoGaiGar Anime in case no one noticed just minus the Lion Chest Piece

  • @davidwhidden9337
    @davidwhidden9337 4 місяці тому +6

    Needs more extra deck options other than Fusion.
    Like a Link or Synchro Monster that has you summon the construction or emergency vehicles.
    More spell support to special summon with a cost of some sort.
    Or let's be honest. It needs a whole rework.

    • @Dratspider
      @Dratspider 4 місяці тому

      a complete ground up rework is the best way to go about it. any amount of support to make them playable, let alone viable would have to be so good or generic that the support would get banned leaving them exactly where they are.

    • @draph91
      @draph91 4 місяці тому

      You know I think Link works better than Synchro, it fits with the vehicle theme

  • @WarBuilder5426
    @WarBuilder5426 4 місяці тому +2

    They would need a massive retrain. As a Transformers fan, I'd kinda like to see them lean more into a Transformers aesthetic if they did, mostly because I find a lot of the vehicroids to look like they belong in the Toon archetype. It feels like an archetype they'd need to do something akin to what they did with Ishizu's cards and effectively go "gut everything, we're starting from scratch."

  • @ryancasey9763
    @ryancasey9763 4 місяці тому

    20:57 "punching down" is one of the funniest things you've said in this video and trading cards i love it

  • @crimsontyphoon8308
    @crimsontyphoon8308 4 місяці тому +2

    My faves ❤ such fond memories from school with this archetype

  • @anthonythomas305
    @anthonythomas305 4 місяці тому

    Awesome video. Nice job talking about Sy's archetype

  • @arcanegale285
    @arcanegale285 4 місяці тому +2

    I think that the vehicroid deck has potential for being saved
    They just need a few things changed/added:
    1) naming scheme overhaul
    2) Spell card searcher (E-Call but for them)
    3) 1 more generic-esque fusion (Pair Cycroid like but instead of 2 with the same name maybe 3 with different ones?)
    4) some form of protection
    5) 1 or 2 more support cards similar to Mixeroid.

    • @jakew6162
      @jakew6162 4 місяці тому

      Don’t forget adding the manga roids monsters and spells/traps as well

  • @toumabyakuya
    @toumabyakuya 4 місяці тому +2

    Another cool fact about Stealth Union is that it is based on GaoGaiGar. Not only its materials are the same required to form GaoGaiGar, but its effects reference GaoGaiGar's powers as well.

    • @GenesicKaiser
      @GenesicKaiser 4 місяці тому +2

      And let's not forget, the Solidroads (They need to be printed, would likely be generic and usable) are Getter Robo forms.

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 4 місяці тому

      @@GenesicKaiser Could you tell me their names? Tried searching but got nothing.

    • @GenesicKaiser
      @GenesicKaiser 4 місяці тому

      @@toumabyakuya Solidroad Alpha, Beta and Gamma. Alpha looks like Getter 1 with Getter 2's head and GGG's StealthGao, Solidroad Gamma looks like Getter 3 + Getter Poseidon and looks like it's out of Megaman Exe (Even has arm cannons resembling 1st Armor X's Buster that shoots out cyclones). Beta looks the least Getter like, kinda Stelva/Gunbuster like. In the manga, they form via 3 plane like roids, much like the Getter Machines.

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 4 місяці тому

      @@GenesicKaiser Thanks. Still couldn't see them at all no matter how I searched them. They sound cool, though.

  • @polocatfan
    @polocatfan 4 місяці тому +2

    I mean the fusion protection effect of dragonroid can work with cyberdark, so you technically could run it in that.
    also the two newest vehicroids are wind so they're unsearchable. that's literally the only reason why.

    • @sasir2013
      @sasir2013 4 місяці тому +1

      yeah, it's practically tailored to be used with cyberdarks. It's not really vehicroid support

  • @leviosdraekion6993
    @leviosdraekion6993 4 місяці тому +1

    14:03 for future reference the odds of us getting a Cyber Dragon Eins is so low it is comical. My reasoning is because we already have a card that could be considered it. The card is Cyber Dragon. It's the first Cyber Dragon made after the prototype.

  • @Sta_cotto
    @Sta_cotto 4 місяці тому +7

    Now I feel like designing an entire set of synergistic retrains for this archetype

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 4 місяці тому

      Oh boy! Good luck with that!.

    • @GoldRichness
      @GoldRichness 4 місяці тому +2

      I mean gate guardian got that treatment so why not this too?

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts 4 місяці тому

      Same
      OFF TO DUELING BOOK WE GO

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts 4 місяці тому

      ​@@GoldRichness repaired genex controller: did someone say *ULTIMATE OFFERING?!*

    • @GoldRichness
      @GoldRichness 4 місяці тому

      @@idosarts_and_krafts lmao, true

  • @DerpyHippo
    @DerpyHippo 4 місяці тому

    This is one of my favorite archetypes of all time, Red-Eyes and Blackwing are my other two favorites, I’m really happy to see this video

  • @joshuagrandison7219
    @joshuagrandison7219 4 місяці тому +2

    Drillroid actually was pretty decent around the time flip effects and walls like Spirit Reaper and Marshmallon were still relevant. It was a stronger Sasuke Samurai, able to get past annoying stall monsters and the 1600 ATK was pretty good. But it's long past irrelevant now and even back then spell and trap based removal was a little more versatile.

  • @armityle1
    @armityle1 4 місяці тому +7

    I truly love hearing the opinion of someone that suffered with this archetype. It feels so raw and honest.

  • @deadlyart02
    @deadlyart02 4 місяці тому

    Love your content man

  • @xakuray5522
    @xakuray5522 4 місяці тому +1

    I feel like 2 spell cards could almost salvage this archetype, - sent 2 non-wind "roid" monsters with different names from your deck to the GY; add 1 "roid" monster to from your deck to your hand. Hopt
    - Fusion summon 1 "roid" fusion monster by banishing materials from your hand or GY. You can banish this card from the GY; special summon a "roid" monster from the GY in defense position.

  • @acebesttheiris134
    @acebesttheiris134 4 місяці тому

    Happy New Year to your channel.

  • @flamefyr
    @flamefyr 4 місяці тому +5

    Man, I loved this deck in high-school. Was my favorite of the GX archetypes and while it only won me a handful of games, I'll never forget when I pulled off a UFOroid Fighter ftk!

    • @draph91
      @draph91 4 місяці тому +1

      Impressive

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 4 місяці тому +2

    1. I feel like a good way to help this deck would be to print a toolbox of low level fusions with simple but strong effects. (Non-target removal, bouncing, negation etc)
    It would make Mixeroid's frankly ridicilous cost actually worth running.
    2. To this day I don't get why Shuttelroid and Kiteroid aren't available/real cards yet.

  • @PKSparkxxDH
    @PKSparkxxDH 4 місяці тому +2

    You can distort the audio, but I still recognize that Mario Kart 64 "You lose" tune LOL

  • @brokendoll3368
    @brokendoll3368 4 місяці тому +3

    Ambulanceroid works well with expressroid (in theory) since it allows you to special summon both the monsters you are returning. Problems: first of all you can't get both on board easily, second your two additional monsters probably won't do anything. Though you could use Speedroids and synchro with them

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts 4 місяці тому

      Infinitrack anchor dril: i mean
      He's kinda right...... Even I can't do that

  • @ninomitchell2039
    @ninomitchell2039 4 місяці тому +2

    Good thing about expressroid too is that it's a non-once-per-turn, generic summon, machine duplication target. Not that I think it's a good target or a 3 of, unless you side a copy or 2, but it's not a bad target at least in a roid deck.

  • @TheGoodOne1998
    @TheGoodOne1998 4 місяці тому +2

    What makes Stealth Union even worse, as a fan of mecha, is that it most likely based on GaoGaiGar.

  • @OutlawStar26ep
    @OutlawStar26ep 4 місяці тому +1

    I believe the way to make Roids work(as in: have an identity and goals, not be meta) lies in the 5 German number Roids from the manga plus the gy fusion spell
    Change Einroid's effect to work when sent to the gy in anyway (EX:Megaroid city or a Link Kuriboh) and give numbers 3-5 good effects like searching(for the field/fusion spells and counter trap) when sent to gy, then you have something to aim for. since Dragon and Mixer (and one for one) can get you to it consistently
    plus the 5 manga roids could all have a shared effect to be counted as the named roid fusion materials so you can just used them to make the older Vehicroid fusion if you need too
    Also if this archetype gets a way to search for Limiter Removal it can aim for an OTK goal. that card is already in the Vehicoid pack in Master Duel

  • @shulkash8799
    @shulkash8799 4 місяці тому +4

    Hope some day that the manga roid cards get printed someday, there is still hope.

    • @ronaldmcdonald4103
      @ronaldmcdonald4103 4 місяці тому

      I want chazz's anime exclusive spells that actually made hid ojamas go with the rest of his deck

  • @Jerao
    @Jerao 4 місяці тому +1

    Fun fact: Super Vehicroid Stealth Union is a reference to King of Braves Gaogaigar almost identically

  • @spartanmagnus9176
    @spartanmagnus9176 4 місяці тому +2

    There needs to be a crossover between speedroid and vehicroid cards. Cards that focus on the roid aspect of the name and focus on fusion summoning with synchro monsters.

  • @MightySuki
    @MightySuki 4 місяці тому +2

    At least they can be somewhat playable in character duels in speed duels for fun :)

  • @renaldyhaen
    @renaldyhaen 4 місяці тому +1

    I think we can fix it if we:
    1. Give a "Roid" searcher but fusion-lock. Speedroid can only fusion. It is enough to prevent them from using Speedroid because the speed itself has a lot of restrictions too.
    2. Fusion spell that can use a monster from the deck or an extra deck like Lunalight Fusion.
    3. In archetype E-Tele please

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 4 місяці тому +2

    Also need to do an updated Vendread video since they added a few new support cards.

  • @batriam5921
    @batriam5921 4 місяці тому +2

    I mean sure with a lot of effort it can be saved. But Konami printing the new support as wind monsters after specifically deciding that their effects won't work on wind monsters does not give me much hope. it's like printing branded support that says "this card isn't and can never be treated as fallen of albaz"

  • @ishmaelvilmenay3340
    @ishmaelvilmenay3340 4 місяці тому +3

    They have to make them like magnets in a way add a better version of them mix with them.

  • @AceOBlade
    @AceOBlade 4 місяці тому +1

    Lol all the hype of the effect and then half original attack XD

  • @jaycross320
    @jaycross320 4 місяці тому

    Yayyyyyy love an upload

  • @fafnir2076
    @fafnir2076 4 місяці тому

    Fusion conscription, fusion deployment can tutor for specific materials. King of the swamp for polymerization consistency, and substitution. Minor things to help lol

  • @VorjuMeidear
    @VorjuMeidear 4 місяці тому

    Since I mostly played Machines for ages and mained Cyberdragon for most of my time playing, I of course had to play those at least for a while. Haven't played it for ages, but seeing you fail motivated me to find a way making them playable, so thank you for this task! xD

  • @RedDragonForce2
    @RedDragonForce2 4 місяці тому +1

    A duel analysis of Cyrus’s final duel would be amazing to see this year!

  • @endyenderman69
    @endyenderman69 4 місяці тому +1

    Here’s my idea to make vehicroids slightly better
    1. The main roids (not speedroids) they pull a summoned skull and add a little thing at the bottom saying that they are always considered vehicroid cards and possibly changing mixer and dragonroid’s effects to search a vehicroid instead of a non wind roid

  • @LightingbladeShen
    @LightingbladeShen 4 місяці тому

    In Yugioh Tagforce 3 (basically oldschool yugioh) you could get a few of them out with a hyper specific trap and fusion card, non searchable and then have a pretty 'unaffected by any card effect' beatstick.
    CHain Material and Vehicroid connection zone

  • @mr.thekid3827
    @mr.thekid3827 4 місяці тому +2

    To be honest, Vehicroids deserved better. They still should be an underdog type deck, but, this is just sad, man. To make them better they'd need:
    1.) A full Archetypal rename (or an errata that makes them all count as 'Vehicroid' monsters) and change their effects to just specifying Vehicroids. So instead of 'non-wind roid monsters' ON FREAKING WIND MONSTERS (I cannot overstate how much that pisses me off by the way) they get access to everything in archetype, and it'd mean those fusion monsters can be summoned BY their fusion spell
    2.) A lot more search power, better starters and extenders, because they need some way to search fusion spells or ways to turn one monster summon into a bunch of other monsters so they can afford to run MORE fusions. To be honest though, there's no good way to make just one or two new cards that would solve this problem, without making some Uber-Busted fusion monster that's a 1 Vehicroid contact fusion (BECAUSE YOU'RE LOCKED INTO FUSION SO IT CAN'T BE A LINK 1, THANKS FIELD SPELL) that lets you summon from deck AND add stuff to hand.
    3.) Better bosses, the ones they have, while good, are a bit much work for the payoffs, like for god's sake just remove that halving atk from Stealth Union and, EVEN WITH the super restrictive summoning requirements of 4 SPECIFIC NAMED MONSTERS that are all PRETTY BAD- it would be a good boss monster. But to be honest, they need more, more generic like Pair Cycroid, more stats like Barbaroid, and better effects like Stealth Union (but not the attack halving). It doesn't have to have all of those, hell if it was like, 3 generic roids, 1500 atk, give it truckroid's stat stealing via equip spells, let it attack twice but not directly, and deal piercing, you've got a really good boss that would be reasonable to go into, and sure it's got no protection, but that's what the archetypal fusion spell is for! Or if you wanna make it REALLY good, make it untargetable, bam, need a non-targeting banish, or battle to out it. (Or an effect negate but shh)
    4.) Better ways to get INTO their bosses, give them an Archetypal specific Brilliant Fusion. Only summons Vehicroids, only sends Vehicroids, hell give it a similar thing where they lose stats but make it so you discard a monster to give it its stats back. Could even go a step further on restrictions and make it so it can only send specifically named ones, so you can still get stuff like Stealth Union, Jumbo Drill, even Cyrus' favorite card-
    5.) Better effects on their other monsters. Yes, they're an old archetype, their monsters shouldn't have good effects, but like, Gyroid's once per turn battle protection ain't gonna cut it chief. This'll basically mean retrains would be needed, or there'd need to be a card that gives them effects like how Weather Painters do it.
    Overall, basically what needs to be done, is something similar to the new Gate Guardian archetype, where you make totally new monsters based on the old ones, and some that use the old ones in new ways. Like make a new Gyroid that's immune to any destruction once per turn, but also make it so it can special summon itself from hand if you control another Vehicroid. Call it Vehicroid - Gyroid, and make it's name always count as Gyroid for naming purposes, or make it mirror Cyber Dragons where they copy the needed names while on field. Vehicroid - Dragonroid, give it nearly the exact same effect, but let it do something more than be a dragon in grave, let it like- copy the name of a Vehicroid from somewhere and let it be banished as a fusion material the turn it does that. Do something totally silly, like, make some Vehicroid that can fusion summon using an opponent's monster by treating their monster as a Vehicroid name that you banish from deck, call it like, Towroid, off of a Tow Truck. Make stuff off of sillier things too, we have Cycroid, make Unicycroid, which can tribute itself to summon a Vehicroid from deck, but can summon two if they're normal monsters, so you have a reason to run regular Cycroid to give you more just, generic materials, sure it'd put garnets into your deck, but it's fun flavor!
    Overall, the deck would need a LOT to come back, and by that point it'd be very different, but still keeping the heart and soul of the silly sentient Vehicles, just in a more modern time.
    Anyway, I really like Libromancers, I know they weren't ever used in the anime, but I think we've moved past the point they can be used, and I'd love a deck breakdown mostly for the story of the characters, because it seems to jump around a lot and some things are kinda unclear to me, but I think it'd be a fun story all the same

  • @ToniBingi
    @ToniBingi 4 місяці тому +3

    I hate that they went with 'non-WIND "roid" monster', when they could have done what some other archetypes have done and said 'Machine "roid" monster (except "Speedroid" monsters)'.

  • @KaoruMzk
    @KaoruMzk 4 місяці тому +1

    To paraphrase Rata: These are a bunch of random pack filler cards with no synergy that were printed as an archetype for whatever reason.

  • @dragonflier289
    @dragonflier289 4 місяці тому

    Good ol vehicroids. Reminds me of the tag duel you and I were in way back before 2020 back on that one emulator. You forgot to swap decks when we started and I had to win with my Trains on my own basically.

  • @GeargusArchfiend
    @GeargusArchfiend 4 місяці тому

    Stealth Union: "Who are you?"
    Chaos Ancient Gear Giant: "I'm you, but better in every way"

  • @Championoko
    @Championoko 4 місяці тому +1

    1:26 I was wonna say what that there is no support even for the lols until I saw that and said out loud THAT IS RIGHT REALITY IS THE BEST COMEDY.

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 4 місяці тому +2

    Super Vehicroid-Mobile Base is straight up Metroplex from Transformers. You know an archetype is some garbage when they have a busted Counter Trap like Emergeroid Call and it does nothing to help them.

  • @Cannon5
    @Cannon5 4 місяці тому +1

    My mom asked me if i finished the dishes i said "vehicroids" she smiled because she knew they were washed

  • @trevorrose3769
    @trevorrose3769 4 місяці тому +4

    Would you consider covering the Naturia archetype in the future? I’m trying to get my girlfriend into casual Yugioh and I heard that Naturia is a beginner friendly archetype.

  • @kingdededef2400
    @kingdededef2400 4 місяці тому

    Back in early 2018 after legendary duelist Joey came out, I made a vechiroid deck profile & took it to my locals. I was able to bet a dark magician player & an altergeist player. Deck was heavily dependent on getting mobile base out on the field. But, you managed to get him on the field along side the field spell & limited removal easy OTK.

  • @TonyGG6300
    @TonyGG6300 4 місяці тому

    Wow, this video makes me wanna start a project where I take old and forgotten archtypes like "Roids" and give them a small boost in effects and card design and make fun proxy decks out of them.

  • @kolbymiller3440
    @kolbymiller3440 4 місяці тому +1

    I just wonder how much would change if all the monsters got "vehicroid" added to their names and all the effects that say "non wind roid" changed to "vehicroid"

  • @EarthSpirit.easyzdota
    @EarthSpirit.easyzdota 4 місяці тому +1

    I KEEP HEARING “UMMMM” EVERY 30s IN THE BG MUSIC

  • @Supersoga
    @Supersoga 4 місяці тому

    16:19 😂😂😂😂😂😂 i had to pause because i was laughing too hard.

  • @bigoxy1
    @bigoxy1 4 місяці тому +1

    Finally, some good fucking content.

  • @benjaminseelking9483
    @benjaminseelking9483 4 місяці тому +1

    So, basically, we need to build a Timemachine and go back to when these Cards where originally designed, and tell the Designers to improve their Ideas

    • @sasir2013
      @sasir2013 4 місяці тому

      that's right, we need to go back in time to when these cards where originally designed, and tell the designers to improve their ideas

  • @neovoltron25
    @neovoltron25 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm surprised there's no Gaogaigar reference for Stealth Union.

  • @thevideogamemafia568
    @thevideogamemafia568 4 місяці тому

    When I was a kid I had a Steamroid, and it’s still one of my favorite cards

  • @LuxonReverse
    @LuxonReverse 4 місяці тому

    Wait TGS just confirmed He loves Truck-kun that's amazing lol Love the vids!!

  • @nattynorth
    @nattynorth 4 місяці тому +1

    I remember pulling expressroid anx the roid trap that let you draw 2 in the pack that introduced the speedroids and I think at some point during design they intended to make the archetypes mixable as they were aware of the dark jeroid ruling before bringing out speedroids. To be honest I don't think there is any reason to restrict design because of that fear and they should design new support without worrying about supporting speedroid

  • @isamelzorrilla5639
    @isamelzorrilla5639 4 місяці тому +1

    Hi TGS Anime I love this and I hope you have a good day