I recommend getting a CRT desktop monitor in addition to a regular CRT TV. CRT desktop monitors can utilize higher resolution numbers than regular CRT TVs. Using VGA adapters you can hook it up to almost anything. Retroarch and Lakka look amazing on a CRT monitor. Especially when also using CRT shaders in Retroarch.
The circuitry inside CRTs is well understood at this point. There is at least one effort that I've seen to create a custom built CRT chassis circuit in 2024. The only thing that is not currently within the grasp of the broader hacker community is making tubes. The general idea is understood but not the nuances of the manufacturing process. With enough determination though I believe we may see production of new tubes for the enthusiast some day. Someone needs to track down the engineers that worked on CRT tubes for the big manufacturers and document as much knowledge about the industrial processes as possible.
Maybe the owner of tesla motors could be have visión to make a lot money in a near future building a crts?,the tubes are the big problem with a somes ic's
The “only thing” happens to be the big elephant in the room. Not only would the CRT need to be remade, but the equipment needed to do that as would be as well. There are also the environmental implications to consider - the leaded glass and potentially toxic phosphor coating. No easy way around the fact that this is already considered hazardous waste - I doubt the governments involved will be quick to allow more to be manufactured.
@@lcdjr85 realy?,do you think so all government are worry for toxics like phosphor etc, think about the lithium in a electric cars and all tech stuff,,thats gonna be the big problem in a near future,vs the old petroleum industry's,the lithium vs smoke,how many years need the lithium for be degraded?directly to the ground and water.the lithium its the gold,and the government and global elite dont say nothing
ebay is full of "universal chassis" for tubes, i've got one from jomac (well known aussie that fixes CRT chassis and also makes universal chassis) on a 29 inch TV tube in an arcade candy cab. The great thing about the arcade universal chassis is that its got RGB input right on the chassis (using the 5 pin RGBS jamma connector). Making the glass tubes though - i just can't see how that will be done again. To make it worthwhile you need economics of scale to bring the price down and i just don't think there are enough retro-loving customers out there to do that. On the positive side - there are a LOT of tubes still out there. To this day, tubes are being found out on kerb sides from people discarding them. So i think we will still have them at least beyond our lifetimes.
@@lcdjr85 i wonder if it would be possible to try making different display technologies with the same intended results? i know feds and seds which use similar principles behind crts were being researched and made but not sold by companies . they were later disregarded for some reason. some articles say it's because of costs which would be dissapointing to the max. to disregard a heavily researched technology and not give it a single shot. they had dedicated divisions to researching these so it's a mystery to me.
Love this video - I recently dived into CRTs and got a little Sony PVM to start things off. I’m looking for a great consumer set to modify - got the skills just need the opportunity. Keep up the great vids
Recently got two crts. A daewoo tube that I bought myself in 1996 and found in my father's attic. And then a Sony Trinitron from the early 2000's. Unfortunately the picture on both is no longer in order. If only the repair of these devices wasn't so damn expensive. I'll keep them for now and maybe one day i get the chance to fix them both.
I wouldn’t hold my breath. The audiofiles kept that industry from ever really dying completely in the first place, and the barrier of entry is pretty low. Not to mention the fact that one person is likely a repeat customer due to new music coming out every day. I don’t think the same could be said for CRT’s, and there are still plenty of orphan CRT’s available for free or close to it.
Vinyl is very easy to make. It's like saying, "Well if you can make a plastic disc you can make a B-17 flying fortress". The components of a CRT are unfortunately in that space where it requires an industrial factory setup with large capital investment, and modern corporations would require a large install base to justify such a setup. I'm sure if you had a dedicated super-rich sponsor you could do it... but I suppose that's our best pie-in-the-sky hope. That some billionaire like Musk cares so much about their retro gaming they fund a crazy unrealistic venture just to get it done. But they'd probably just shrug and settle for emulation instead of blowing a hundred million on it. It really doesn't help that all western governments would try to block it due to "green" concerns.
@@zeriel9148 green or hypocrisy governments?,the litium and new tech devices are gonna be a big problem,many interesting $ with all green mafia around the globe,cheers
@6:22 does anyone else hear that super high pitched mosquito tone when he walks to the back of the TV? I remember always hearing this sound every time a CRT TV is turned on. I have ear buds in so it might not be heard as easy over the phone speaker, but I can hear it! It takes me back
Smaller portables can be great for 240p, reason I say this is due to there usage, generally speaking it's low. Most people would put a portable like a 14" in a spare bedroom or kitchen leaving them with low running hours. Over here in the UK they are all RGB scart so it's a no-brainer for you guys over the pond to get em modded, it's really well worth doing.
I had that exact same Toshiba TV in my bedroom. I'm disabled and live with my parents. In 2010, my dad decided even though my TV was perfectly fine, I needed a current HDTV. I'd honestly rather have that Toshiba back.
@@phantoslayer9332 I'm still upset all these years later. Technology updates never interested me. If I wanted to watch an older show I'm happy enough buying a DVD set.
Thanks, I like your video! Here's a youtube video I want to share with you and everyone! The title is : Continuous Electric Display (CED) In this video, I will do a short demonstration of a new analog display technology, made with static electricity. It is a technique (similar to crt) that uses the Jacob's Ladder effect.
@@jnhartonI know I keep too much junk around my place, but it’s stuff that I value and it has fond memories, even if no one else appreciates it. But I know what you mean, once that habit of hoarding sets in it’s a nightmare and it can ruin your life and personal relationships.
yaaaaaaayyyyy that's my favorite non-trinitron tv! I have been holding off on RGB modding mine bc component looks pretty good on it, but I might have to do it now
If no company produces crts, even small ones, for retrogamers and nostalgics, there will be no future. Fortunately, many have been produced, there are still new old stock, so those who are passionate about it can buy and keep it safeguarded.
They could mimic a CRT by adding a LCD or OLED dot mask behind a curved glass and mimicking the electron scanning image generation. It wouldn't be exactly the same but it could be done with current components, without restarting a cathode tube factory.
The CRT's future is short. But I don't think that it's as short as what people are making it out to be. I keep seeing a growing interest in preserving these heavy boxes. But we are never getting new ones manufactured again. It is my understanding that they aren't cost effective anymore to produce. And that's a shame. It would be nice if some specialty shop were to make these things to demand. I'd imagine that such things would be pricy as hell, though.
Yes, unfortunately their potential customers already turn their noses up to the $150 Trinitron - myself included. New runs will undoubtedly cost hundreds, if not thousands more. And they’ll probably be low quality on top of that.
Lots of TVs (Toshiba AF, Sony Wega, etc) have video processing routines and filters built into the component input, that hurt the picture rather than help. The RGB mod bypasses said processing and filtering for a cleaner picture.
@@cliggsterTrue. But that’s why calibration is necessary on any input you plan on using. For instance, the over-saturated Component example in this video was guaranteed “pre-calibrated” as I’ve never seen component look THAT bad after even a mild tune-up thru the service menu (unless the tube itself was on its way out). Properly calibrated, you’d be hard pressed to tell the difference in a double-blind comparison. I have that exact Toshiba model and it was overly bright and “bloomy” on component when I first got it. Now, after about an hour in the service menu, it looks crisp via component and not at all “red-saturated” like in the video.
It’s almost weird that you are making your own SCART input. They feature on every CRT in UK & Europe as standard. I was surprised when I found out that they weren’t commonly used in USA. My guess is that the blank panel you cut into is intended for SCART on European models of that TV. I picked up an HDMI to SCART adapter a few weeks ago that I’ll be trying out on my old Panasonic. Nice vid. Thx
Missed you, man. Really cool to see an actual Samsung tube. Rare as Hen's Teeth. Hiding inside a Hyundai, no less. I wonder how it stacks up against a Sony monitor tube? Anyway, looking forward to your streams. If I'm not there, I'm probably ded.
@@Hyperion856Working CRTs will probably last during the rest of our lifetime. For those who are very young right now however, they might not see many CRTs near the end of their lifetime.
@@Hyperion856I always wonder about retro tech in general if there is enough of a market for someone to keep making CRT’s or anything else that has been discontinued like 3dfx graphics cards or even reproduction old cars.
Crts from 80 years ago are still being worked on and restored. CRTs will be around as long as the passion for the hobby/addiction exists. I've saved over 50 working sets myself. Running out of space though.
I just bought a 2006 32" widescreen Panasonic CRT TV (it's flat fronted oddly) for £30. Super high quality and probably one of the last mass produced CRTs sold here, so thinking it'll last me until 2040-ish. Sadly it's 100Hz so won't work with my lightguns and unlike smaller TVs and monitors, I found it cheap because it's near impossible to lift by myself. Heavy is one thing, but when I have lifted it up, it's so damn big, I can't get through doorways!!
I have a 2005 Sony 28" widescreen. When i got it it only had about 600 hours on the tube. Its 50/60hz, has S-Video aswell as RGB and games look incredible on it. I just need to sort out some geometry issues and its good to last me many years.
@@ericritchie6783 Thanks! Apparently, (according to some online forums) it's not possible to do with this model, but that's not to say for certain. I have several other monitors and another TV I can use the lightguns on, but they're small and was hoping for the larger screen for a better experience.
Those Panasonic and Sony widescreens are perfect for Xbox 360/PS3 and up. Was given a 30" Wide Sanyo Vizon a while back. Picture is suprisingly good. Wasn't to bad to pick up but I can confirm I had a harder time moving it in and out of my narrow halways and doors.
@@drknstodstny4141 I remember all the earlier TVs we had were on a wheeled stand. The ones that didn't were called "portable" TVs, but the later massive wide-screen teles did away with wheels even if they were on a nicely designed stand.
Personally i wish CRTs were a thing again since Vinyl Record Players are. But the cost to make a CRT today and manufacture is lost. And alot of money to try and even do now sadly. Unless someone just throws Millions into the Old Concept again. I don't see it happening. But if i was a Millionare winner. Thats something i would Personally try to make again for people just for the hell of it. Because CRTs helps culture the point of what old films and games look the best on Its just a fact. Watching Jurassic Park or playing Street Fighter 2 is just ment to be on a CRT. Its the Experience that Matters the most i think.
guy who has import a few cars from japan (where everyone still smokes). i found the best cleaner for literally wiping away that jdm cig tar is Castrol Super Clean. you're welcome.
There's really no need for crts to make a comeback anyways. You'll never convince the public there's a better value in buying a heavy antiquated box tv over all the new display technologies flatscreens have developed. I personally do not miss them.
I still use old SD CRTs for my retro consoles, but CRT phosphor emulation gives me even better picture quality (at least on the static image) when I choose to emulate PVM-style phosphor masks. I have never seen PS2 480i/p games look so sharp and detailed. For example, I can barely read the mini map in GTA SA on my SD CRT, while I can read everything on my emulated PVM. CRT displays may die one day, but their legacy will live forever thanks to phosphor emulation.
I mean we could always start manufacturing them again if there was enough interest and capital investment. Granted that they're kind of power hungry and someone would need to relearn a lot of technical knowledge and skills. Would be interesting if somebody could figure out an alternate method for electron emission and controlling the beam that was a little less energy intensive.
I think with all the modern technology, Sony could figure out how to make them better than before and more affordable. But I've seen videos on how they are made and is rather a very dangerous process.
That’s just the thing. The interest is probably not as high as you’d think, and the investment needed is probably way larger than you imagine. Sure, Sony could “figure it out” as someone else suggested, but they’ll never do that. There’s no money left in it. People think the $300 Trinitron on eBay is expensive? Just you wait till you see what a new one for a very small market would cost. Hell, people have collected old computers for ages. But do you see Apple building a “throwback” SE/30? Won’t happen.
I have one of these models but I think the IR receiver is dead - means I can’t switch inputs from RF since there’s no way to do that without a remote. Any tips / advice on this?
@@jimbotron70 lmao yeah, I bought 2 model compatible Toshiba remotes and a Harmony remote - verified with a phone they're blasting IR but the TV isn't picking them up
Well i think is posible build a CRT in the next 100 years..with 3D print and other new technogy to replicate old Things..but now the 70% of CRT on the Market will die en next 20 years..maybe a multimillonarie guy can revive CRT on This years
I have a general question about CRTs that I can't find an answer to online. If the TV has been standing around unused for years and you want to use the it again, can you just plug it in and use it without any risk or is there something to watch out for? So should you let the tube warm up first or something similar? An electrician once told me that a cold start after years of not using it could make damage because of the high voltage...I haven't used my Bang & Olufson 4200 CRT for good four years now, but I want to use it again and don't want to do anything wrong. before I stored the TV, it was working perfectly. Would be very thankful for an answer. ^^ Great videos on your channel btw. liked and subscribed. 👍🏻
I you buy a brand new one still in the box and use it only for gaming only and sometimes old movies in 2024 would you get a good amount of years out of it? Or is it better to find them used for free or like $25 and then when they go bad just get another because so cheap…??? Trying to figure what’s the better route??
Not enough people to fix them. Not enough worth while ones because scarcity, condition, and high prices. I have a 34xbr970 that Im going to attempt to recap. I have no choice but to learn. I will accept the fate when my crt's die.😢
If you truly love CRTs, it would ve worthwhile to fix any of them for it's own sake and to share the CRT experience with someone who never had the opportunity. At the very least, it would be worth salvaging working tubes, high voltage components, and the analog circuitry for use with better/different digital control, signal decoding.
@@mexdrago3009 I agree with all your points in your first comment. I also agree with your second comment. It definitely isn’t easy for the inexperienced as they could potentially get injured or at the very least end up damaging something inside the CRT permanently.
I don't understand the amount of time spent on bashing whomever smoked around that TV. Literally almost everyone use to smoke back then. It's not that big of deal.
Never understood the appeal of CRTs. They are SD and not in HD. Dim, bland colors, and heavy as a tank, and not very large sizes. Modern television are so much more better IMO. Give me an OLED any day of the week.
Maybe you were born in the mid 2000s or later and therefore experience zero nostalgia? SD looks just fine on appropriately sized television, HD is nice but kind of overrated. You don't need super high resolution to enjoy television or playing video games. Brightness and colors can vary quite a bit depending on manufacturer, target market, and the quality of the product. The display sizes and weight are just fundamental limitations of the technology itself. OLEDs (organic led) displays can suffer burn-in, become dim with use, and the individual "pixels" will eventually fail completely. Give it ten years of regular use and you'll wish you hadn't gone with OLED tech...
nahhh crt is life, the image is just different, i bought a couple of em priced at 2.5k when they were manufactured for a few bucks and they are amazing
They can natively display a 240p signal, and display it in a visually distinct way from pixel monitors. The closest an Oled can achieve is an imitation, with a retrotink 4k and a scanline filter its a fine imitation, but still not on par with the visual effect and motion clarity of a well maintained CRT with component inputs.
I wish you could take a look at my retro gaming bang Olufsen RGB scart TV. its perfect condition cosmetically, but have some issues which need to be resolved and repaired. but... Im from Ukraine
Save them ALL
I want a crt so badly. These videos always remind me of the TV's and monitors i wish i had kept.
Just keep looking
Facebook marketplace is place to be
I recommend getting a CRT desktop monitor in addition to a regular CRT TV.
CRT desktop monitors can utilize higher resolution numbers than regular CRT TVs.
Using VGA adapters you can hook it up to almost anything. Retroarch and Lakka look amazing on a CRT monitor. Especially when also using CRT shaders in Retroarch.
The circuitry inside CRTs is well understood at this point. There is at least one effort that I've seen to create a custom built CRT chassis circuit in 2024. The only thing that is not currently within the grasp of the broader hacker community is making tubes. The general idea is understood but not the nuances of the manufacturing process. With enough determination though I believe we may see production of new tubes for the enthusiast some day. Someone needs to track down the engineers that worked on CRT tubes for the big manufacturers and document as much knowledge about the industrial processes as possible.
Maybe the owner of tesla motors could be have visión to make a lot money in a near future building a crts?,the tubes are the big problem with a somes ic's
The “only thing” happens to be the big elephant in the room. Not only would the CRT need to be remade, but the equipment needed to do that as would be as well. There are also the environmental implications to consider - the leaded glass and potentially toxic phosphor coating. No easy way around the fact that this is already considered hazardous waste - I doubt the governments involved will be quick to allow more to be manufactured.
@@lcdjr85 realy?,do you think so all government are worry for toxics like phosphor etc, think about the lithium in a electric cars and all tech stuff,,thats gonna be the big problem in a near future,vs the old petroleum industry's,the lithium vs smoke,how many years need the lithium for be degraded?directly to the ground and water.the lithium its the gold,and the government and global elite dont say nothing
ebay is full of "universal chassis" for tubes, i've got one from jomac (well known aussie that fixes CRT chassis and also makes universal chassis) on a 29 inch TV tube in an arcade candy cab. The great thing about the arcade universal chassis is that its got RGB input right on the chassis (using the 5 pin RGBS jamma connector).
Making the glass tubes though - i just can't see how that will be done again. To make it worthwhile you need economics of scale to bring the price down and i just don't think there are enough retro-loving customers out there to do that.
On the positive side - there are a LOT of tubes still out there. To this day, tubes are being found out on kerb sides from people discarding them. So i think we will still have them at least beyond our lifetimes.
@@lcdjr85 i wonder if it would be possible to try making different display technologies with the same intended results? i know feds and seds which use similar principles behind crts were being researched and made but not sold by companies . they were later disregarded for some reason. some articles say it's because of costs which would be dissapointing to the max. to disregard a heavily researched technology and not give it a single shot. they had dedicated divisions to researching these so it's a mystery to me.
Dude, LITERALLY just picked up that 14” Toshiba a couple weeks ago! Great little set! Impeccable timing on this video!
I have 10+ crts and they are not going anywhere. ❤my crts
Everyday we are more saving crt and make other to do the same,thanks bro
Yes here for the love!!
Love this video - I recently dived into CRTs and got a little Sony PVM to start things off. I’m looking for a great consumer set to modify - got the skills just need the opportunity. Keep up the great vids
I've been hunting for a Hyundai Q995 or Q910 for years now Steve, one of my absolute favourite CRTs to exist.
Recently got two crts. A daewoo tube that I bought myself in 1996 and found in my father's attic. And then a Sony Trinitron from the early 2000's. Unfortunately the picture on both is no longer in order. If only the repair of these devices wasn't so damn expensive. I'll keep them for now and maybe one day i get the chance to fix them both.
I appreciate your shout out to smaller CRT's in the trailer!
If vinyl can make a comeback then absolutely anything is possible.
I hope
I wouldn’t hold my breath. The audiofiles kept that industry from ever really dying completely in the first place, and the barrier of entry is pretty low. Not to mention the fact that one person is likely a repeat customer due to new music coming out every day. I don’t think the same could be said for CRT’s, and there are still plenty of orphan CRT’s available for free or close to it.
@@lcdjr85just takes vigilance and dedication
Vinyl is very easy to make. It's like saying, "Well if you can make a plastic disc you can make a B-17 flying fortress". The components of a CRT are unfortunately in that space where it requires an industrial factory setup with large capital investment, and modern corporations would require a large install base to justify such a setup. I'm sure if you had a dedicated super-rich sponsor you could do it... but I suppose that's our best pie-in-the-sky hope. That some billionaire like Musk cares so much about their retro gaming they fund a crazy unrealistic venture just to get it done. But they'd probably just shrug and settle for emulation instead of blowing a hundred million on it. It really doesn't help that all western governments would try to block it due to "green" concerns.
@@zeriel9148 green or hypocrisy governments?,the litium and new tech devices are gonna be a big problem,many interesting $ with all green mafia around the globe,cheers
@6:22 does anyone else hear that super high pitched mosquito tone when he walks to the back of the TV? I remember always hearing this sound every time a CRT TV is turned on.
I have ear buds in so it might not be heard as easy over the phone speaker, but I can hear it! It takes me back
Smaller portables can be great for 240p, reason I say this is due to there usage, generally speaking it's low. Most people would put a portable like a 14" in a spare bedroom or kitchen leaving them with low running hours. Over here in the UK they are all RGB scart so it's a no-brainer for you guys over the pond to get em modded, it's really well worth doing.
Superb video, Steve. Bravo!
@@tonyescobar3866 thanks!
I had that exact same Toshiba TV in my bedroom. I'm disabled and live with my parents. In 2010, my dad decided even though my TV was perfectly fine, I needed a current HDTV. I'd honestly rather have that Toshiba back.
God I’d hate that, I’m sorry
@@phantoslayer9332 I'm still upset all these years later. Technology updates never interested me. If I wanted to watch an older show I'm happy enough buying a DVD set.
Thanks, I like your video!
Here's a youtube video I want to share with you and everyone!
The title is : Continuous Electric Display (CED)
In this video, I will do a short demonstration of a new analog display technology, made with static electricity.
It is a technique (similar to crt) that uses the Jacob's Ladder effect.
I've been tempted to be a Robin hood of crts and grabbing all the free ones to save from the dump
Same! It hurts a bit to see CRTs just rusting away in a dump 😢. Wish I could save hundreds in a warehouse.
Be careful about that, while I understand the impulse you don't want to become that guy hauling dead electronics around for the rest of your life.
@@jnharton This is also true. It would be very difficult to get these out of our home if we amass a huge collection. We’d probably be stuck with ‘em.
Haha yeah... That's why I haven't done it. 😂
@@jnhartonI know I keep too much junk around my place, but it’s stuff that I value and it has fond memories, even if no one else appreciates it. But I know what you mean, once that habit of hoarding sets in it’s a nightmare and it can ruin your life and personal relationships.
I got that same model toshiba at a thrift store for 7 bucks a few year back... has component ports and mybackwards compatible ps3 looks amazing on it.
yaaaaaaayyyyy that's my favorite non-trinitron tv! I have been holding off on RGB modding mine bc component looks pretty good on it, but I might have to do it now
If no company produces crts, even small ones, for retrogamers and nostalgics, there will be no future. Fortunately, many have been produced, there are still new old stock, so those who are passionate about it can buy and keep it safeguarded.
The trailer with the reminder to hit the like button was a pro move!
Love your videos! Keep up the great work saving the CRT!
They could mimic a CRT by adding a LCD or OLED dot mask behind a curved glass and mimicking the electron scanning image generation.
It wouldn't be exactly the same but it could be done with current components, without restarting a cathode tube factory.
The CRT's future is short. But I don't think that it's as short as what people are making it out to be. I keep seeing a growing interest in preserving these heavy boxes.
But we are never getting new ones manufactured again. It is my understanding that they aren't cost effective anymore to produce. And that's a shame. It would be nice if some specialty shop were to make these things to demand. I'd imagine that such things would be pricy as hell, though.
Yes, unfortunately their potential customers already turn their noses up to the $150 Trinitron - myself included. New runs will undoubtedly cost hundreds, if not thousands more. And they’ll probably be low quality on top of that.
Why install RGB when the TV already has YPBr?
Lots of TVs (Toshiba AF, Sony Wega, etc) have video processing routines and filters built into the component input, that hurt the picture rather than help. The RGB mod bypasses said processing and filtering for a cleaner picture.
@@cliggsterTrue. But that’s why calibration is necessary on any input you plan on using. For instance, the over-saturated Component example in this video was guaranteed “pre-calibrated” as I’ve never seen component look THAT bad after even a mild tune-up thru the service menu (unless the tube itself was on its way out). Properly calibrated, you’d be hard pressed to tell the difference in a double-blind comparison. I have that exact Toshiba model and it was overly bright and “bloomy” on component when I first got it. Now, after about an hour in the service menu, it looks crisp via component and not at all “red-saturated” like in the video.
Not the same.
Doing the RGB mod on this Toshiba is pointless…
@@cliggsterThere is virtually no difference back to back. I've tested heaps of CRTs with RGB scart and component. component,
It’s almost weird that you are making your own SCART input. They feature on every CRT in UK & Europe as standard. I was surprised when I found out that they weren’t commonly used in USA. My guess is that the blank panel you cut into is intended for SCART on European models of that TV. I picked up an HDMI to SCART adapter a few weeks ago that I’ll be trying out on my old Panasonic. Nice vid. Thx
Those toshibas have nice designs
Missed you, man. Really cool to see an actual Samsung tube. Rare as Hen's Teeth. Hiding inside a Hyundai, no less.
I wonder how it stacks up against a Sony monitor tube? Anyway, looking forward to your streams. If I'm not there, I'm probably ded.
Samsung tubes were p00p. I had one.
Yeah, now that you've finished it, I see that the tube black levels look pretty bad. But if they got better, that's good news.
They don't have a future, they will all die out in the end, though that may take many years due to them being stored and not used etc.
True but I think we still got awhile for them to stick around.
@@Hyperion856Working CRTs will probably last during the rest of our lifetime. For those who are very young right now however, they might not see many CRTs near the end of their lifetime.
All the more reason to enjoy CRTs while we still can!
@@Hyperion856I always wonder about retro tech in general if there is enough of a market for someone to keep making CRT’s or anything else that has been discontinued like 3dfx graphics cards or even reproduction old cars.
Crts from 80 years ago are still being worked on and restored. CRTs will be around as long as the passion for the hobby/addiction exists. I've saved over 50 working sets myself. Running out of space though.
It's kinda wild how we see tech as disposable just because something newer/better is out. Wasting our world's resources..
Let's hope
I just bought a 2006 32" widescreen Panasonic CRT TV (it's flat fronted oddly) for £30. Super high quality and probably one of the last mass produced CRTs sold here, so thinking it'll last me until 2040-ish. Sadly it's 100Hz so won't work with my lightguns and unlike smaller TVs and monitors, I found it cheap because it's near impossible to lift by myself. Heavy is one thing, but when I have lifted it up, it's so damn big, I can't get through doorways!!
I have a 2005 Sony 28" widescreen. When i got it it only had about 600 hours on the tube. Its 50/60hz, has S-Video aswell as RGB and games look incredible on it. I just need to sort out some geometry issues and its good to last me many years.
Potentially a 100hz set could be modified to run 50-60hz progressive? Presumably the yoke and flyback would be up to the job...
@@ericritchie6783 Thanks! Apparently, (according to some online forums) it's not possible to do with this model, but that's not to say for certain. I have several other monitors and another TV I can use the lightguns on, but they're small and was hoping for the larger screen for a better experience.
Those Panasonic and Sony widescreens are perfect for Xbox 360/PS3 and up. Was given a 30" Wide Sanyo Vizon a while back. Picture is suprisingly good. Wasn't to bad to pick up but I can confirm I had a harder time moving it in and out of my narrow halways and doors.
@@drknstodstny4141 I remember all the earlier TVs we had were on a wheeled stand. The ones that didn't were called "portable" TVs, but the later massive wide-screen teles did away with wheels even if they were on a nicely designed stand.
Personally i wish CRTs were a thing again since Vinyl Record Players are. But the cost to make a CRT today and manufacture is lost. And alot of money to try and even do now sadly. Unless someone just throws Millions into the Old Concept again. I don't see it happening. But if i was a Millionare winner. Thats something i would Personally try to make again for people just for the hell of it. Because CRTs helps culture the point of what old films and games look the best on
Its just a fact. Watching Jurassic Park or playing Street Fighter 2 is just ment to be on a CRT. Its the Experience that Matters the most i think.
guy who has import a few cars from japan (where everyone still smokes). i found the best cleaner for literally wiping away that jdm cig tar is Castrol Super Clean. you're welcome.
Thanks 💨 🚬 😎
Stubble doesn't equal a mustache 😊
"who says secondhand smoke isn't dangerous?"
That would be Penn & Teller on their HBO show "Bullshit!"
post "Save a crt please" in all ,its a part of history,
They’ll survive in this house
Love my 14AF
do you know how to fix the horizonal stretch on the toshiba 14
They can live if companies continue to make games and movies for it... but so much has moved towards 4k and what not.
Another cool mod is sharpness mod.
I dont want crts to die ): I still haven't gotten one and they are so cool 😭
There's really no need for crts to make a comeback anyways. You'll never convince the public there's a better value in buying a heavy antiquated box tv over all the new display technologies flatscreens have developed.
I personally do not miss them.
Not mine. All 5 are doing great.
I’m interested in an FV310 that when powered on it intermittently has a pop noise and then powers off.
Common?
Run or take a chance?
I still use old SD CRTs for my retro consoles, but CRT phosphor emulation gives me even better picture quality (at least on the static image) when I choose to emulate PVM-style phosphor masks. I have never seen PS2 480i/p games look so sharp and detailed. For example, I can barely read the mini map in GTA SA on my SD CRT, while I can read everything on my emulated PVM. CRT displays may die one day, but their legacy will live forever thanks to phosphor emulation.
I mean we could always start manufacturing them again if there was enough interest and capital investment.
Granted that they're kind of power hungry and someone would need to relearn a lot of technical knowledge and skills.
Would be interesting if somebody could figure out an alternate method for electron emission and controlling the beam that was a little less energy intensive.
@@jnharton once Retrotink finds a way to make an upscaler that is 1 to 1 with CRTs we will be good to go! He isn't that far off really.
I think with all the modern technology, Sony could figure out how to make them better than before and more affordable. But I've seen videos on how they are made and is rather a very dangerous process.
@@onetwo6039 Industrial processes usually pose some degree of hazard, it's just the nature of manufacturing stuff from molten metal, hot glass etc.
That’s just the thing. The interest is probably not as high as you’d think, and the investment needed is probably way larger than you imagine.
Sure, Sony could “figure it out” as someone else suggested, but they’ll never do that. There’s no money left in it. People think the $300 Trinitron on eBay is expensive? Just you wait till you see what a new one for a very small market would cost.
Hell, people have collected old computers for ages. But do you see Apple building a “throwback” SE/30? Won’t happen.
I think someone will start making CRTs again.
I use this same CRT and I'm way too scared of getting zapped to do any maintenance on it inside D:
What I would try is working your way up if possible. First get basic knowledge them try and discharge a tiny portable CRT. Be very careful though.
I have one of these models but I think the IR receiver is dead - means I can’t switch inputs from RF since there’s no way to do that without a remote. Any tips / advice on this?
Are you sure isn't the remote?
@@jimbotron70 lmao yeah, I bought 2 model compatible Toshiba remotes and a Harmony remote - verified with a phone they're blasting IR but the TV isn't picking them up
When you make cap kits how do you match esr values? Do you just retain physical size and call it good?
Well i think is posible build a CRT in the next 100 years..with 3D print and other new technogy to replicate old Things..but now the 70% of CRT on the Market will die en next 20 years..maybe a multimillonarie guy can revive CRT on This years
easy sub
Is the sony 40xbr700 good for 5th generation and back gaming??
Do u think my sony wega kv-hs420 would make use of a rgb mod?
That is a mighty worn gamers nexus mod mat! Is there a universal RGB-TTL to Analog RGB mod pcb?
I have a general question about CRTs that I can't find an answer to online. If the TV has been standing around unused for years and you want to use the it again, can you just plug it in and use it without any risk or is there something to watch out for? So should you let the tube warm up first or something similar? An electrician once told me that a cold start after years of not using it could make damage because of the high voltage...I haven't used my Bang & Olufson 4200 CRT for good four years now, but I want to use it again and don't want to do anything wrong. before I stored the TV, it was working perfectly. Would be very thankful for an answer. ^^ Great videos on your channel btw. liked and subscribed. 👍🏻
excellent video. Sunthar mod kit sold out. any idea when will they be in stock ?
Also, do you think you could just add a toggle switch to make selectable audio inputs on the toshiba?
I was watching my state of the art OLED yesterday and i truly believe the quality of the colors (besides black) is still not as good as CRT
I you buy a brand new one still in the box and use it only for gaming only and sometimes old movies in 2024 would you get a good amount of years out of it? Or is it better to find them used for free or like $25 and then when they go bad just get another because so cheap…??? Trying to figure what’s the better route??
Where did you get the recap kit?
Of course, where you been? There's whole subreddits jizzing to them lol
Where can I find someone in my area where they can professionally service a crt?
Hey Steve! Is that a Sony KV-32FV310 at 17:38? 😊
What is the advantage of doing an RGB MOD to a set that already has component? I'm curious...
Not enough people to fix them. Not enough worth while ones because scarcity, condition, and high prices. I have a 34xbr970 that Im going to attempt to recap. I have no choice but to learn. I will accept the fate when my crt's die.😢
If you truly love CRTs, it would ve worthwhile to fix any of them for it's own sake and to share the CRT experience with someone who never had the opportunity.
At the very least, it would be worth salvaging working tubes, high voltage components, and the analog circuitry
for use with better/different digital control, signal decoding.
@jnharton I already gave one of my crt away to someone that needed, but fixing them isn't an easy task for the inexperienced.
@@mexdrago3009 I agree with all your points in your first comment. I also agree with your second comment. It definitely isn’t easy for the inexperienced as they could potentially get injured or at the very least end up damaging something inside the CRT permanently.
are CRTs going to be a lost technology that we won't be able to recreate in the future?
They already are.
So technically, any CRT can be rgb modded using a mux mod?
Hi interested in seeing how much for you to sell me a toshiba 20' with an RGB mod, shipped to me, thanks
I have about 17 crt tvs stored , I’m 48 so so they will last me till I check out..
Im in the same way,every day we are more "saving a crt" and making concience
I've never found one that didn't work
CRTs dead? lol NO!
I don't understand the amount of time spent on bashing whomever smoked around that TV. Literally almost everyone use to smoke back then. It's not that big of deal.
Never understood the appeal of CRTs.
They are SD and not in HD. Dim, bland colors, and heavy as a tank, and not very large sizes.
Modern television are so much more better IMO. Give me an OLED any day of the week.
You’d be surprised what a good CRT can do, but hey, you do what you like! More CRTs for us 😂
Maybe you were born in the mid 2000s or later and therefore experience zero nostalgia?
SD looks just fine on appropriately sized television, HD is nice but kind of overrated. You don't need super high resolution to enjoy television or playing video games.
Brightness and colors can vary quite a bit depending on manufacturer, target market, and the quality of the product.
The display sizes and weight are just fundamental limitations of the technology itself.
OLEDs (organic led) displays can suffer burn-in, become dim with use, and the individual "pixels" will eventually fail completely.
Give it ten years of regular use and you'll wish you hadn't gone with OLED tech...
nahhh crt is life, the image is just different, i bought a couple of em priced at 2.5k when they were manufactured for a few bucks and they are amazing
OLEDs have worse motion clarity, even my CX with BFI, it’s good, but nowhere near as good as my Trinitrons
They can natively display a 240p signal, and display it in a visually distinct way from pixel monitors. The closest an Oled can achieve is an imitation, with a retrotink 4k and a scanline filter its a fine imitation, but still not on par with the visual effect and motion clarity of a well maintained CRT with component inputs.
I wish you could take a look at my retro gaming bang Olufsen RGB scart TV. its perfect condition cosmetically, but have some issues which need to be resolved and repaired. but... Im from Ukraine