Very ahead of their time. I don't think they wrote their own songs, but they certainly did bring those very edgy lyrics to life in a way that demonstrates they might not have had the easiest of childhoods. The 60s started to get real much earlier than 1968....
I've been getting Shangri-Las related UA-cam clips and enjoy them all. Even though the adults were sending this up, Mary stayed in the song's character and was a pro.
Indeed. I had no idea where the clip came from. Strangely enough, I watched I've got a Secret quite often, even though I was maybe 10. I wonder if I saw this episode.
Shutout to my Coworker Barry Brown, Mary's husband. When they first met Barry had no idea who she was. Now all he does is talk about her and loves sharing all video's of his true love. Still going strong Barry 💖 Mary.
I must admit, the teens showed truly professional grace when SA and RG mugged-up their performance for a cheap laugh. Always loved the Shangri-Las: really, really sweet girls (oops! did I say that out loud?!)
@@aliceshaw8265 They didnt write the song, Shadow Morton, Ellie Greenwich and some others did...it was a finished song but without vocal track, they SLs added it. They made it their own, they are one of my very favorite groups ever and this is one of my favorite songs. I even have Mary Weiss's autograph.
I had such a crush on adorable Betsy Palmer; she was so wonderful on this show. I was so heartbroken when we lost her earlier this year. I still am, of course
I was six that year, Jennie L. My Mom, an high school director of choirs hired many of her girls to baby sit me. And yes, they had extensions and bee hive dos, too. Friday nights, they'd come set Mom's hair ... love back-atcha ! Viva AcquaNet ;)
I was "in vitro" at this time, as my mom figured out she was pregnant w/ me just a couple weeks after this show. I thought the Shangri-Las were a quartet. The lead singer's sister was also part of the group, at least for part of the time.
@ Jon H. - I have just discovered that the girls had several good songs that charted,but nothing as successful as 'Leader of the Pack '. Betty(19), was lead singer Mary's(15) older sister and had to step off the stage for a time, when she became in a 'family way '. If course,they made other excuses at time. My how they(the times) have changed.
"Leader of the Pack" became Billboard Magazine's # 1 hit record the week of Nov. 28, 1964, bumping off the Supremes' "Baby Love" from the coveted position. "Pack", however, stayed at # 1 for only one week. The song spawned a parody, "Leader of the Laundromat", by the Detergents.
It was replaced At number one by “Ringo” by Lorne Greene. Of course, the Beatles and the Supremes (and to a certain extent the beach boys) were the dominant group in 1964, but in the fall of that year there were some great number ones like leader of the pack and Ringo, Mr. lonely by Bobby Vinton, And everybody loves somebody by Dean Martin.
This is Great!! Nice to see this old Vintage TV stuff!| Mary Weiss, the Lead Singer of The Shangri-Las died on 01/22/2024 at Age 75. Robert Goulet is my distant cousin via common French ancestry.
That's right. It was a shame. The "adults" took advantage of a song that was no 1 in the country, something they could never do and made it all about them
Unfortunately, you are correct. The older generation (our parents) didn't get rock and roll. They had grown up with swing in the 30's-40's and the stream of song crooners that followed after. Not that Sinatra, Vaughn Monroe and Guy Michell (to name three) were bad. But every generation needs its own identity. Music is perhaps the strongest factor in that. Chances are their parents didn't get the music they listened to. The cycle just repeats over and over.
I had only ever seen this from 5.12 onwards and thout it pathetic when the motorbike rolled on to stage. Now that I've seen the entire thing I think it's utterly humiliating to the Shangri-Las. However, they and the song were bigger and better than the disrespect they faced and this is still an amazing song today.
Cannot agree more, the host showing his disdain for R&R and his comedic talents. Few ever worked harder than both sets of twins on creating and perfecting the girl group sound. Screw the bit.
This was completely normal at the time...the group just showing up to lip-sync had little entertainment value to a game show audience of the mid 60's,...which were comprised of all ages and most were not fans of pop music aimed at teens.....Many in the audience seemed to be very amused.
This song is interesting--it seems goofy, and Steve Allen and Robert Goulet show it no respect, but Mary Weiss is mesmerizing and finds some serious depth. You can laugh, but it is tough to be a teenager.
I was very disappointed at how Steve Allen didn't even acknowledge the girls. Not a particularly well mannered host. I always liked him before. Now I'm a bit less of a fan. Mary was soulful and beautiful. Teenage angst at it's finest.
@@tonysantiago255 Agree. They had the number 1 record in the country and he ignores them. They sang the song on his show, giving him big ratings and he treats them like garbage.
This is a prefect example of the chasm that used to exist between "serious" music and that rock and roll stuff the kids were into. Rock had its revenge by plowing over all those singers like Steve Allen and Robert Goulet that made fun of it. This reminds me of Elvis having to sing to an actual hound dog on Steve Allen's show. The Shangra-las show poise despite Goulet's stupid motorcycle stunt
Ain't true, he featured young Jerry Lee Lewis on his first nation wide tv appearance and praised him, which made JLL become famous. He even named his son Steve Allen. I doubt, he "hated" Rock and Roll. In his own words he loved "excellence" in music, wether it may be polka, country or rock...
@@markusr7421 Totally agree, Markus. I was a big Steve Allen fan as a kid, my dad was a Jazz musician and Steve did celebrate a variety of musics on his own late night show, as well as his playing own piano Jazz. I think the producers of this quiz show made them do this corny bit.
I used to watch this show (originally developed by Allen Sherman, remember him?). And none of the panelists had any knowledge of the lines they were reading. We used to say things like "Squaresville"
Yes, I read that just the other day, that Billy Joel is the perpetrator of those fabulous piano chords in "Walking in the Sand". Wow. Did he play on their other songs too? Makes sense, these young ladies were teenagers from Queens and Billy Joel would have been about 15 years old, from Long Island, just starting to play school dances. Maybe they had an associate in common? He claims he never got paid for the gig. I'll bet these young ladies were not paid fairly for their amazing work either. I know they didn't write their own songs, but they certainly brought these rather dark edgy songs to life. Listening to a lot of their stuff now, it really holds up even today. No wonder Amy Winehouse liked them. 🎶🎵🎶
@@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 I don't actually know if Billy Joel got onto other commercial recordings. And if he did, they probably weren't hits. Another odd bit of trivia, is that all of them - the Shangri-Las, Billy Joel, Mort Shuman, and Amy Winehouse - were Jewish.
I didn't think they were mocking the song. It was just an attempt at humor. What I didn't understand was why they were referring to it as "a rock and roll hit", rather than just to refer to it by its title. Rock and roll was actually a bad description. This is not "rock and roll". It seems to indicate that adults back then considered anything popular at the time as "rock and roll' without understanding what the term meant.
it is a rock and roll song, very rocking, (the engine revving is almost like Hendrix's feedback in a few yrs) very intense, sung passionately, a person DIES in the song, we hear him die!
(Cont.from below) Then then there was Betsy Palmer, whose career can best be summed up by this wiki blurb: "Betsy Palmer...best known as a regular panelist on the game show I've Got a Secret...got her first acting job when she joined the cast of a 15 minute long, daily soap opera, Miss Susan. She was 'discovered' for this role while enjoying a party in the apartment of actor Frank Sutton (Sgt. Carter of Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C) She had been in New York City less than one week." Well, Golllly.
Ya had to have an organ in a rock band in the 60's....Check out the Animals, the Raiders,Procol Harum, the Monkeys. Percy sledge, Iron Butterfly., Doors, sir Douglas Booker T. etc, etc...
I thought this was a pretty good mid '60s TV skit. The group was a bit marginalized, but that was the going fare for that era. People still regarded rock n roll, and especially girl groups, as nothing more than a joke. The ladies handled themselves very professionally and seemed to take any perceived slight in stride.
Everybody in the Free World at that point new that song. I cannot believe that the panelists on this game show had no clue what they were reading. It just seems a little Bazaar. Seriously come on now
@JayBBluejay I think it was felt those outfits were a little too much for the audience watching this show, as opposed to AMERICAN BANDSTAND or SHINDIG!
There were four original shangri-las. However almost every video you can find on UA-cam of the shingle laws is only three. What happened to the fourth wall?
She just performed with them on and off -- Mary's sister Betty. Tall and very sweet looking, but always looked a little out of it when she did perform with them, out of practice I assume.
Yeah, it was kinda dickish of them to mock the performers and the song. But this music must have been treated like I view rap, today. I would be equally dismissive of a rap group. I knew all about it - my parents would have been clueless. And I was a teen when this came out. The girls were lucky to get a spot on a nationwide show, like this. The comedy is the price they paid.
Steve Allen WAS a Douche Bag He was about as funny as a broken leg and he always seemed to rip the rock stars of the day.They will be long remembered after people think "Steve Who"?
One of his routines was the reading instead of singing of "Who put the bomp in the bomp she bomp she bomp." That passed for hilarious comedy at the time.
True, it is a shame. But just a different time over all. Rock music and teen pop was considered silly and child like to the WWII generation; they appreciated easy listening and jazz, not to mention classical. Eh... What can ya do?
If someone would play out the lyrics of the current top 1 billboard hit right now, I would have no fucking clue as to what song it would be. And I am saying that as someone who quite enjoy that artist and song.. (looked it up who is number 1 as I am writing this)
It was a shame. The "adults" took advantage of a song that was no 1 in the country, something they could never do and made it all about them. Even now I am annoyed because I love the song just as it was done when it was number 1 and not used for comedy. They propped up the ratings of the show and Steve Allen and Robert Goulet just made fun of them and ignored them. Sickening
Wow all these rude comments toward Betsy Palmer, Steve Allen and Robert Goulet. Betsy Palmer had a featured role in the 1955 film Mister Roberts starring Henry Fonda, certainly a well respected film. Steve Allen was a prolific composer (hundreds of popular songs), an accomplished TV personality, film actor and author of several books. Robert Goulet was instar the successful Broadway show Camelot (music by Lerner and Lowe). When you people accomplish as much, then make your critical comments.
@111sienna You're totally right Sienna, and the fact that Steve Allen and Robert Goulet were successful only makes it more shocking that they couldn't show these girls the respect that their talent and success deserved.
@@vincentalonzo4351 I hate to tell you this but speaking as someone who was three months older than the twins and a junior in high school at the time of the show, everyone over the age of 12 thought the song was ridiculous and I would bet the girls in the group felt the same way. My bet is that all of the panelists knew of the song and the whole thing was just a put on that the girls were happy to go along with to get the additional exposure. They were extremely talented and professional and grown up enough to realize that there was no disrespect intended toward them at all.
@@dennisgallagher There was a lot of disrespect toward them and to the audience who liked the song being done seriously, not as a stupid joke. It was the number 1 song in the country done exactly as it was and not being made a laughing stock.
@@dennisgallagher I agree, Dennis, I was in junior high when this came out and it really was a joke. Remember the sequel: The Leader of the Laundromat?
@@rickrick5041 Actually Steve Allen was already famous for ridiculing Rock and Roll, having already done a dramatic recitation of "Who PutThe Bomp In The Bomp Bomp Bomp She Bomp" (itself a parody) and he was hardly the only one to do that kind of stuff. Mad Magazine also satirized the genre and there was much to do made of the fact that, just as in this case, almost all television performances were lip-synched and many records were actually sung by artists whose names were not on the record. However, none of the above demonstrates any disrespect toward the artists performing the song here.
The Shangri-Las had a helluva lot more grace and talent on that stage than the mugging Steve Allen and Robert Goulet could muster. It was a bit insulting to them but still obvious to anyone who maintained the real artistry.
Why is everyone so uptight?.......The Rutles mocked the Beatles for laughs and it was widely appreciated....Even Harrison joined in.......People who were alive then get it.
Condescending? Yes, and similar to making Elvis sing "Hound Dog" to a bassett in a tuxedo on Steve Allen Show. Hi, ho Steverino! Loved his shows, Don Knotts, Louis Nye, et al. And Steve even did a serious reading of "Eleanor Rigby". I saw the Royal Shakespeare Company or whatever way back (70s) and actors did a "serious" reading of "Satisfaction" lyrics by the Rollings . 'Twas funny. Spoofs are all right, but be nice and don't be cruel. I love Mary's voice. When I was 12, a Beatlemaniac, I thought the Shangri-las' music was a bit avant-garde. It was; it is.
GREG Hubbard It was the number one song for a reason. All the great songs except novelty songs are sung with meaning as if the person singing is living it and believing it. Then you have a guy acting like an idiot smiling and mocking the whole thing. Have him playing like a joker when Dion sings Teenager in Love or anyone sings any great song. What did Goulet sing, What Kind of Fool I am or something like that, a serious song. Bring in some fools while he is singing and see how he likes it.
In the words of the immortal Charles Nelson Reilly, It's a good thing Patty Duke isn't here to see such lousy acting! Actually, the Shangri-Las did have a secret: Betty Weiss had just left the group temporarily, because she'd gotten pregnant. (She was 18, and not married. Oddly, this would be the only child any of the group's members would ever have.) So while Betty sang lead on the song, and the lead character is addressed as Betty, it's actually sister Mary Weiss lip-synching here.
![The Shangri-Las - Remember (Walking in the Sand) [In Color]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ViaToHNTukE/mqdefault.jpg)
1964 Gold 🥇 Classic. The Teens from Queens 👑 definitely deserve to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame LEGENDS 2023.
Wish they would have been inducted before we lost Mary. They were a great group with tunes that you couldn’t forget
R.I.P. Mary
Very ahead of their time. I don't think they wrote their own songs, but they certainly did bring those very edgy lyrics to life in a way that demonstrates they might not have had the easiest of childhoods. The 60s started to get real much earlier than 1968....
I've been getting Shangri-Las related UA-cam clips and enjoy them all. Even though the adults were sending this up, Mary stayed in the song's character and was a pro.
yeah, I hate those guys, idiots, no one even knows who they are but the Shangri-Las live on forever...
@@joejones9520 You're 100% right.
I never knew that clip was from a game show, definitely nice to see the whole thing!!
Indeed. I had no idea where the clip came from. Strangely enough, I watched I've got a Secret quite often, even though I was maybe 10. I wonder if I saw this episode.
What's MyLine
Great clip.
Shutout to my Coworker Barry Brown, Mary's husband. When they first met Barry had no idea who she was. Now all he does is talk about her and loves sharing all video's of his true love. Still going strong Barry 💖 Mary.
That's Great!
That’s good to hear since I haven’t heard any information about her since around 2010. Good to know she is living a good life with her husband.
Please give Barry my condolences. I was very saddened to hear that his beautiful wife passed away yesterday. Long live Mary and the Shangri-Las. 🖤💙
Very sad for Barry now What are the arrangements
I must admit, the teens showed truly professional grace when SA and RG mugged-up their performance for a cheap laugh. Always loved the Shangri-Las: really, really sweet girls (oops! did I say that out loud?!)
@@aliceshaw8265 They didnt write the song, Shadow Morton, Ellie Greenwich and some others did...it was a finished song but without vocal track, they SLs added it. They made it their own, they are one of my very favorite groups ever and this is one of my favorite songs. I even have Mary Weiss's autograph.
I had such a crush on adorable Betsy Palmer; she was so wonderful on this show. I was so heartbroken when we lost her earlier this year. I still am, of course
Never better than in Mr. Roberts.
Mary Weiss was so Damn Cute!! Love her voice 😍
Beautiful...
1964. My natal year. Mary's hair "extension" is a sign of the times if there ever was one. Love it!
I was six that year, Jennie L. My Mom, an high school director of choirs hired many of her girls to baby sit me. And yes, they had extensions and bee hive dos, too. Friday nights, they'd come set Mom's hair ... love back-atcha !
Viva AcquaNet ;)
I was "in vitro" at this time, as my mom figured out she was pregnant w/ me just a couple weeks after this show.
I thought the Shangri-Las were a quartet. The lead singer's sister was also part of the group, at least for part of the time.
@ Jon H. - I have just discovered that the girls had several good songs that charted,but nothing as successful as 'Leader of the Pack '. Betty(19), was lead singer Mary's(15) older sister and had to step off the stage for a time, when she became in a 'family way '. If course,they made other excuses at time. My how they(the times) have changed.
What a treat to come to this video! Just loved the Shangri-Las when I was a teenager .. their music and their tuff NY accents!!!
"Leader of the Pack" became Billboard Magazine's # 1 hit record the week of Nov. 28, 1964, bumping off the Supremes' "Baby Love" from the coveted position. "Pack", however, stayed at # 1 for only one week. The song spawned a parody, "Leader of the Laundromat", by the Detergents.
It was replaced At number one by “Ringo” by Lorne Greene. Of course, the Beatles and the Supremes (and to a certain extent the beach boys) were the dominant group in 1964, but in the fall of that year there were some great number ones like leader of the pack and Ringo, Mr. lonely by Bobby Vinton, And everybody loves somebody by Dean Martin.
I thought you were kidding but :
ua-cam.com/video/Qi5yDBvYUcE/v-deo.html
these girls were beautiful.... open your eyes and think b4 you write!!!!
Good recording, glad to see this. Thanks ❤
Yeah, I love this kinda stuff!!! 😊😊😊😊😊
I wanted to marry Mary Weiss in 1965. She was adorable. #RIPMaryWeiss
Me too, I was nine.
And I meant it.
They should be in the Music Hall Of Fame
2020.03.19. Mary Weiss is AWESOME, then and now!
Proof that there has always been a divide btwn "adults" and rock & roll. Panelists didn't know the song "Leader of the Pack".
This is Great!! Nice to see this old Vintage TV stuff!|
Mary Weiss, the Lead Singer of The Shangri-Las died on 01/22/2024 at Age 75.
Robert Goulet is my distant cousin via common French ancestry.
75 😢
Rest in power and song, Mary. 🎶🎵🎶
These young ladies ARE Pop Music Icons, you wouldn't know it from this clip though. The whole thing seemed to be about &^%$#@ Robert Goulet.
That's right. It was a shame. The "adults" took advantage of a song that was no 1 in the country, something they could never do and made it all about them
Steve Allen was a great talent. I always liked watching him but I heard he hated rock and roll. Where's his number 1 record?
They're just girls anyway, as far as they were concerned.
Sister Betty left the group early. She didn't have that vocal Quality!! So sad.
Unfortunately, you are correct. The older generation (our parents) didn't get rock and roll. They had grown up with swing in the 30's-40's and the stream of song crooners that followed after. Not that Sinatra, Vaughn Monroe and Guy Michell (to name three) were bad. But every generation needs its own identity. Music is perhaps the strongest factor in that. Chances are their parents didn't get the music they listened to. The cycle just repeats over and over.
I didn't realize this clip was from a game show. Thanks! Wish there was more footage of this band online.
Yeah there doesn't seem to be much. It's a shame.
This is Awesome, such great tv back then and the actors where more sincere too
I had only ever seen this from 5.12 onwards and thout it pathetic when the motorbike rolled on to stage. Now that I've seen the entire thing I think it's utterly humiliating to the Shangri-Las. However, they and the song were bigger and better than the disrespect they faced and this is still an amazing song today.
Cannot agree more, the host showing his disdain for R&R and his comedic talents. Few ever worked harder than both sets of twins on creating and perfecting the girl group sound. Screw the bit.
Older showbusiness types always belitted the younger artists at that time...or tried to
This was completely normal at the time...the group just showing up to lip-sync had little entertainment value to a game show audience of the mid 60's,...which were comprised of all ages and most were not fans of pop music aimed at teens.....Many in the audience seemed to be very amused.
I totally disagree. This shows the total disconnect between our parents and what we as kids were listening to on the radio. It's a great skit!
Loved the harmonies. Good song. Sounds as great now
REST IN HEAVENLY PEACE 🙏🏽✝️🕊️☮️🎶🎤🏍️"Leader of the Pack" and "Remember Walking in the Sand" 🎶
Yeah, they were a REAL girl group. Way better than the fake rubbish you see today.
Mary...she's cute.
Betsy went on to play Jason's mother in the first FRIDAY THE !3TH film in 1980.
Finally, thanks for a great upload, Roots.
This is just great!
That was really great!. Love it!
This song is interesting--it seems goofy, and Steve Allen and Robert Goulet show it no respect, but Mary Weiss is mesmerizing and finds some serious depth. You can laugh, but it is tough to be a teenager.
If they had only known what a classic they were laughing at.
@@Astyanaz - Steve Allen mocked "Bebopalula" on another show once. Sometimes the guy makes me gag, acting so clever and snobby and superior. Ugh!
I was very disappointed at how Steve Allen didn't even acknowledge the girls. Not a particularly well mannered host. I always liked him before. Now I'm a bit less of a fan. Mary was soulful and beautiful. Teenage angst at it's finest.
@@tonysantiago255 Agree. They had the number 1 record in the country and he ignores them. They sang the song on his show, giving him big ratings and he treats them like garbage.
I had that exact bike ...a Honda S 90 ..all 8 horsepower...man it was COooollll!! Bought it with my paper route money,,my parents hated it!!
JHINTON69 cool!
Amazing :D
This is a prefect example of the chasm that used to exist between "serious" music and that rock and roll stuff the kids were into. Rock had its revenge by plowing over all those singers like Steve Allen and Robert Goulet that made fun of it. This reminds me of Elvis having to sing to an actual hound dog on Steve Allen's show. The Shangra-las show poise despite Goulet's stupid motorcycle stunt
Hear hear - well said! To hell with these so-called "adults" - here's to teen wildness and passion and ROCK! And Shadow Morton was a genius.
Glad when he wrecked
Most of their songs told a story about true Love and affection ❤️
Goulet went on to perform successfully for decades after the Shang-ri-Las were finished.
Love the Hammond organ, in the background!
So....darn Cute!. They were fine!
Steve Allen hated rock and roll and would always try to make a joke out of it
Ain't true, he featured young Jerry Lee Lewis on his first nation wide tv appearance and praised him, which made JLL become famous. He even named his son Steve Allen. I doubt, he "hated" Rock and Roll. In his own words he loved "excellence" in music, wether it may be polka, country or rock...
@@markusr7421 Totally agree, Markus. I was a big Steve Allen fan as a kid, my dad was a Jazz musician and Steve did celebrate a variety of musics on his own late night show, as well as his playing own piano Jazz. I think the producers of this quiz show made them do this corny bit.
I used to watch this show (originally developed by Allen Sherman, remember him?). And none of the panelists had any knowledge of the lines they were reading. We used to say things like "Squaresville"
Proof that teenagers were way ahead of adults back then.
But the song was written by adults, not teenagers. None of these girls wrote any song.
Recorded in a studio in Levittown, Long Island, with Billy Joel on piano.
Yes, I read that just the other day, that Billy Joel is the perpetrator of those fabulous piano chords in "Walking in the Sand". Wow. Did he play on their other songs too? Makes sense, these young ladies were teenagers from Queens and Billy Joel would have been about 15 years old, from Long Island, just starting to play school dances. Maybe they had an associate in common? He claims he never got paid for the gig. I'll bet these young ladies were not paid fairly for their amazing work either. I know they didn't write their own songs, but they certainly brought these rather dark edgy songs to life. Listening to a lot of their stuff now, it really holds up even today. No wonder Amy Winehouse liked them. 🎶🎵🎶
@@girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 I don't actually know if Billy Joel got onto other commercial recordings. And if he did, they probably weren't hits.
Another odd bit of trivia, is that all of them - the Shangri-Las, Billy Joel, Mort Shuman, and Amy Winehouse - were Jewish.
I didn't think they were mocking the song. It was just an attempt at humor. What I didn't understand was why they were referring to it as "a rock and roll hit", rather than just to refer to it by its title. Rock and roll was actually a bad description. This is not "rock and roll". It seems to indicate that adults back then considered anything popular at the time as "rock and roll' without understanding what the term meant.
Top 40 and Rock and Roll were virtually synonymous, particularly among parents of teenagers.
it is a rock and roll song, very rocking, (the engine revving is almost like Hendrix's feedback in a few yrs) very intense, sung passionately, a person DIES in the song, we hear him die!
love those accents. "huh" for "her."
Where/how does a 15 year old come up with such emotion?
Your question answers itself. 😅
(Cont.from below)
Then then there was Betsy Palmer, whose career can best be summed up by this wiki blurb:
"Betsy Palmer...best known as a regular panelist on the game show I've Got a Secret...got her first acting job when she joined the cast of a 15 minute long, daily soap opera, Miss Susan. She was 'discovered' for this role while enjoying a party in the apartment of actor Frank Sutton (Sgt. Carter of Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C) She had been in New York City less than one week."
Well, Golllly.
I'd love to have that bike now.....
Apparently it was written off when he crashed it.
Adults were SO condescending to the new music back then.
Just as they are today
Yep. Where are their number 1 records?
I'm interested in seeing this episode in its entirety. Do you have this episode in full and can you post it?
Ya had to have an organ in a rock band in the 60's....Check out the Animals, the Raiders,Procol Harum, the Monkeys. Percy sledge, Iron Butterfly., Doors, sir Douglas Booker T. etc, etc...
Uuh now i get it they're acting the songtext-leader of the pack and then they come play it..
How niiice!
Nice.
I thought this was a pretty good mid '60s TV skit. The group was a bit marginalized, but that was the going fare for that era. People still regarded rock n roll, and especially girl groups, as nothing more than a joke. The ladies handled themselves very professionally and seemed to take any perceived slight in stride.
A lot of guys had a crush on Mary Weiss.
I recognized Betsey Palmer immediately 😄
I only watched this for Mary Weiss. I wished the rest would just get out of the way.
Jason’s mom!! ❤️
Everybody in the Free World at that point new that song. I cannot believe that the panelists on this game show had no clue what they were reading. It just seems a little Bazaar. Seriously come on now
Everybody here is so hard on Steve Allen and Robert Goulet, but why? The kidding was all in good fun, and even Mary is struggling not to laugh.
Hear, hear, 68lincoln!
Mary Weiss RIP
@JayBBluejay I think it was felt those outfits were a little too much for the audience watching this show, as opposed to AMERICAN BANDSTAND or SHINDIG!
Artists used to lip-sync a lot and we never thought that much about it.
Sorry, I only saved this portion.
There were four original shangri-las. However almost every video you can find on UA-cam of the shingle laws is only three. What happened to the fourth wall?
She just performed with them on and off -- Mary's sister Betty. Tall and very sweet looking, but always looked a little out of it when she did perform with them, out of practice I assume.
Betty had a daughter in 1964, which prevented her from always being in the group.
Hahahahaah. Awesome. (Pay attention, kids: that's Jason's (Friday the 13th) mother! The first killer in Friday the 13th. Lol)
Billy Joel played piano on that song
Steve Allen detested rock and roll music and never missed a chance to ridicule it.
Not true.
One idiot against one great song and great singer
They are poking fun at our beloved soap operas, as well as the Shangri-Las
Yeah, it was kinda dickish of them to mock the performers and the song. But this music must have been treated like I view rap, today. I would be equally dismissive of a rap group. I knew all about it - my parents would have been clueless. And I was a teen when this came out. The girls were lucky to get a spot on a nationwide show, like this. The comedy is the price they paid.
"to go slow. not be careful...
Shame Betty wasn't there. There are so few clips with her. She just didn't like performing 'live'.
Not when she was pregnant and "showing"
Steve Allen WAS a Douche Bag He was about as funny as a broken leg and he always seemed to rip the rock stars of the day.They will be long remembered after people think "Steve Who"?
One of his routines was the reading instead of singing of "Who put the bomp in the bomp she bomp she bomp." That passed for hilarious comedy at the time.
only good thing he did was have Kerouac read...
@@aliceshaw8265 He was very talented but all wrong about rock n roll and nearly ruined the song
And then he kissed me is hinted in there.
How in the world could they not know it? Weird cultural divide.
***** do you really think the older generation at the time gave a crap about teen music?
True, it is a shame. But just a different time over all. Rock music and teen pop was considered silly and child like to the WWII generation; they appreciated easy listening and jazz, not to mention classical. Eh... What can ya do?
At that time, I think the only time the WW2 generation cared about teen music is when their children played it too loudly.
If someone would play out the lyrics of the current top 1 billboard hit right now, I would have no fucking clue as to what song it would be. And I am saying that as someone who quite enjoy that artist and song.. (looked it up who is number 1 as I am writing this)
Alterdestiny you are spot-on with that comment! Steve Allen was an ass. Rock soon rolled over people like him like a steamroller.
Mary Weiss=💥
It was a shame. The "adults" took advantage of a song that was no 1 in the country, something they could never do and made it all about them. Even now I am annoyed because I love the song just as it was done when it was number 1 and not used for comedy. They propped up the ratings of the show and Steve Allen and Robert Goulet just made fun of them and ignored them. Sickening
I agree.
Steve Allen hated rock n roll. Real jerk.
society when teenage girls catch a break
Did you hear that another group stole their name. and song? It's on this video here. ua-cam.com/video/JQB8mYd-ozo/v-deo.html
Steve Allen made a joke out of them! He did the same to Elvis, when he had him on his show, doing Hound Dog, in the 50s!
Yeah, the guy was such a jerk. But we will always remember the gorgeous Mary Weiss, who's gonna remember Steve many years from now?
@@kazamshah4543 EVERYONE will ALWAYS remember Steve Allen.
Wow all these rude comments toward Betsy Palmer, Steve Allen and Robert Goulet. Betsy Palmer had a featured role in the 1955 film Mister Roberts starring Henry Fonda, certainly a well respected film. Steve Allen was a prolific composer (hundreds of popular songs), an accomplished TV personality, film actor and author of several books. Robert Goulet was instar the successful Broadway show Camelot (music by Lerner and Lowe). When you people accomplish as much, then make your critical comments.
@111sienna You're totally right Sienna, and the fact that Steve Allen and Robert Goulet were successful only makes it more shocking that they couldn't show these girls the respect that their talent and success deserved.
@@vincentalonzo4351 I hate to tell you this but speaking as someone who was three months older than the twins and a junior in high school at the time of the show, everyone over the age of 12 thought the song was ridiculous and I would bet the girls in the group felt the same way. My bet is that all of the panelists knew of the song and the whole thing was just a put on that the girls were happy to go along with to get the additional exposure. They were extremely talented and professional and grown up enough to realize that there was no disrespect intended toward them at all.
@@dennisgallagher There was a lot of disrespect toward them and to the audience who liked the song being done seriously, not as a stupid joke. It was the number 1 song in the country done exactly as it was and not being made a laughing stock.
@@dennisgallagher I agree, Dennis, I was in junior high when this came out and it really was a joke. Remember the sequel: The Leader of the Laundromat?
@@rickrick5041 Actually Steve Allen was already famous for ridiculing Rock and Roll, having already done a dramatic recitation of "Who PutThe Bomp In The Bomp Bomp Bomp She Bomp" (itself a parody) and he was hardly the only one to do that kind of stuff. Mad Magazine also satirized the genre and there was much to do made of the fact that, just as in this case, almost all television performances were lip-synched and many records were actually sung by artists whose names were not on the record. However, none of the above demonstrates any disrespect toward the artists performing the song here.
The Shangri-Las had a helluva lot more grace and talent on that stage than the mugging Steve Allen and Robert Goulet could muster. It was a bit insulting to them but still obvious to anyone who maintained the real artistry.
That dick on the bike was such a goofball, but the girls were really cute and adorable.
Cute idea, but the total lack of respect and meager courtesy shown to the Shangri-Las kind of ruins it.
Why is everyone so uptight?.......The Rutles mocked the Beatles for laughs and it was widely appreciated....Even Harrison joined in.......People who were alive then get it.
Acting!
Condescending? Yes, and similar to making Elvis sing "Hound Dog" to a bassett in a tuxedo on Steve Allen Show.
Hi, ho Steverino! Loved his shows, Don Knotts, Louis Nye, et al. And Steve even did a serious reading of "Eleanor Rigby".
I saw the Royal Shakespeare Company or whatever way back (70s) and actors did a "serious" reading of "Satisfaction" lyrics by the Rollings . 'Twas funny. Spoofs are all right, but be nice and don't be cruel.
I love Mary's voice.
When I was 12, a Beatlemaniac, I thought the Shangri-las' music was a bit avant-garde. It was; it is.
WTH? What was the purpose in acting out the Shangra Las lyrics?
Stupidity. Probably trying to make fun of it.
GREG Hubbard It was the number one song for a reason. All the great songs except novelty songs are sung with meaning as if the person singing is living it and believing it. Then you have a guy acting like an idiot smiling and mocking the whole thing. Have him playing like a joker when Dion sings Teenager in Love or anyone sings any great song. What did Goulet sing, What Kind of Fool I am or something like that, a serious song. Bring in some fools while he is singing and see how he likes it.
This is typical Steve Allen bashing rock n roll. He hated it. Painful crap.
LOL Messed up how they made suicide into a comedy.
Is this supposed to be funny? The soap opera? It’s terrifying and sad. Not funny at all.
Cornball establishment humor as it mocks '60s renaissance music. Sorry for Steve Allen, though he was a nice guy, that he never "got it".
Man, this was so bad. Really tacky. I would've felt really bad if I had been on this stupid show. Not funny at all.
Ok, obviously the Shangri-Las are the adults here.
That little boy on the bike needs to just go away.
Robert Goulet was the best singer and Broadway actor in the world in the 60s and 70s. His rendition of the songs from Camelot was the best rated.
In the words of the immortal Charles Nelson Reilly, It's a good thing Patty Duke isn't here to see such lousy acting!
Actually, the Shangri-Las did have a secret: Betty Weiss had just left the group temporarily, because she'd gotten pregnant. (She was 18, and not married. Oddly, this would be the only child any of the group's members would ever have.) So while Betty sang lead on the song, and the lead character is addressed as Betty, it's actually sister Mary Weiss lip-synching here.
Wow, this really sucked. That dick on the bike looks like a young Robert Culp!!!