Love you so much Pekin, I got into League before but you’ve made it into a hobby for me, just moved from South Africa to America, pretty cool to get your videos just before bed now
Zilean was designed during a time in League where many champs had single target hard cc on basic abilities. Sion, Taric, Fiddle, Ryze, TF, Panth, etc. Very few champs had aoe stuns or knockups on basic abilities, and if they did then they were usually conditional like Zilean needing to hit 2 bombs, Heimer bomb being small radius and hard to hit, Malphite knockup only on ult, Cho Q being hard to land, etc. Zilean having a targetable slow, even at 99% strength, which it was half that strength initially, was pretty weak by comparison to all of the broken point and click cc nuke abilities there were. Albeit the duration was around 6 seconds long at max rank, but it was during a time that supports were almost never getting to lvl 18 anyway and you max e last. When they had to buff him to see relevancy outside of pro play when they changed his exp passive, his E was the only ability they could buff since every other one would be insane. He's fundamentally broken based on abilities, and even if his numbers were nerfed, he's still extremely uninteractive. The fact he can easily solo lane now probably does mean he deserves a nerf, but since no one plays him even as a support, it wouldn't even do anything.
the “zilean would get nerfed if he was more popular according to riot” originated from the League of Legends forums btw, like 10 years ago now lmfao. people have been repeating it ever since and i really don’t think it’s true anymore, if he was more popular he might get a mini rework like when veigar supp became a pro play staple, but the champ is really just fine now, nothing too special in either direction. just had to leave a comment because “8 months ago” made me chuckle
Zilean kinda reminds me of Medivh in Heroes of the Storm, not because the skills are similar (they're not), but for also having a single damaging ability and the rest of the kit is a lot of support abilities. Medivh have a very high skill ceiling and, even being kinda of a "support" (he's actually deemed a specialist), can be top damage and dictate matches, if played correctly.
This clip is August saying "I'm of the opinion that zilean is degenerate to game state we would need to nerf him if he was more popular" He didn't exactly say Zilean is OP, it just changes so many fundamental things on games (ppl speed, ppl revive, AoE stuns on low CD) Clip: ua-cam.com/users/shortsKY2FmZyz0Bo
in Hotkeys there is "self cast QWER", I set mine to selfcast E on my side mouse button. Just set it to anything that you'd like and you're good to go. I also do that for Lissandra R but I have to change it each game from E to R etc.
Ehh idk if he's genuinely broken, but definitely broken for solo queue. I've found the same thing with azir post mini rework. If players aren't willing to exploit the weaknesses of your champ, they don't have any lol. Zil utility is insane and you can definitely leverage that to do crazy things with a carry jungle + his ult is overwhelming up until mid game. But as long as scaling control mages are viable (and the people playing them are good), zil is mostly a beneficiary of solo queue meta imo.
It gives more ability haste. Pretty much every time he plays Zilean, except this time for some reason, he always explains that ability haste is more important than outright damage since with ability haste you can perma-stun people. Essentially Zileans cooldowns are more important than slightly bigger damage numbers.
I tried very hard to get a non-stomp game but today was not it
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Love you so much Pekin, I got into League before but you’ve made it into a hobby for me, just moved from South Africa to America, pretty cool to get your videos just before bed now
Sometimes you just gotta have a couple stomp games in the mix.
smh try harder
Or, uh, less hard
Stop being too crazy with it
The Kayn at 28 mins stopping and actively choosing not to take your cannon. Can’t be a real Kayn player
I think he was just waiting for q to steal.
must've been an accident, he proxied a whole wave 15 seconds later lmao
"It's so funny killing people with Bombs" ~ Pekinwoof December 2024
I was searching for this comment.
I say this same sentence all the time
Zilean was designed during a time in League where many champs had single target hard cc on basic abilities. Sion, Taric, Fiddle, Ryze, TF, Panth, etc. Very few champs had aoe stuns or knockups on basic abilities, and if they did then they were usually conditional like Zilean needing to hit 2 bombs, Heimer bomb being small radius and hard to hit, Malphite knockup only on ult, Cho Q being hard to land, etc. Zilean having a targetable slow, even at 99% strength, which it was half that strength initially, was pretty weak by comparison to all of the broken point and click cc nuke abilities there were. Albeit the duration was around 6 seconds long at max rank, but it was during a time that supports were almost never getting to lvl 18 anyway and you max e last.
When they had to buff him to see relevancy outside of pro play when they changed his exp passive, his E was the only ability they could buff since every other one would be insane. He's fundamentally broken based on abilities, and even if his numbers were nerfed, he's still extremely uninteractive. The fact he can easily solo lane now probably does mean he deserves a nerf, but since no one plays him even as a support, it wouldn't even do anything.
Bro shut up
@@leonardo9259 such a zilean hater smh
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Glad to see you playing what makes you happy. Most of of will watch anything. Love you.
10:35 a kill at the same time in every lane. neat
the “zilean would get nerfed if he was more popular according to riot” originated from the League of Legends forums btw, like 10 years ago now lmfao. people have been repeating it ever since and i really don’t think it’s true anymore, if he was more popular he might get a mini rework like when veigar supp became a pro play staple, but the champ is really just fine now, nothing too special in either direction. just had to leave a comment because “8 months ago” made me chuckle
Fear the fangs. Respect the skill.
Not many know this, Pekin sort of mains Zilean in a distant future, like in season 200
oh I was JUST thinking I really wanted a Pekin video lmao amazing timing
As a kinda new league player, I randomly played zilean in aram, and he was SO much fun. I can easily carry my team in most fights
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There are definitely some times where I think you could run into your own bombs more to either land a stun or get the damage
I love your Zilean games!
Zed is the best example of delayed kill! You just feel hopeless when he ults you and dash away.
Zilean kinda reminds me of Medivh in Heroes of the Storm, not because the skills are similar (they're not), but for also having a single damaging ability and the rest of the kit is a lot of support abilities.
Medivh have a very high skill ceiling and, even being kinda of a "support" (he's actually deemed a specialist), can be top damage and dictate matches, if played correctly.
This clip is August saying "I'm of the opinion that zilean is degenerate to game state we would need to nerf him if he was more popular"
He didn't exactly say Zilean is OP, it just changes so many fundamental things on games (ppl speed, ppl revive, AoE stuns on low CD)
Clip: ua-cam.com/users/shortsKY2FmZyz0Bo
it's simple, i see pekin upload i click
Based upload time. Right as I go to bed
pekin, can you try on-hit zilean? just chase down people with your stuns and slows and auto them to death?
20:10 poppy summed it up
Every day i look for my dogmen woof new video and whenever i see zilean i say "yesss" 😂
some of those plays were NUTS haha, his slow seems ridiculous
@18:00 you couldve used W-E to slow talon
How do you use Zilean e without hovering over ur champ?? It’s a neat trick!
I can actually help with this, there is a setting call "self cast" in the settings, firts page, in casting keys or smthng like that!
Hope you find it
in Hotkeys there is "self cast QWER", I set mine to selfcast E on my side mouse button. Just set it to anything that you'd like and you're good to go.
I also do that for Lissandra R but I have to change it each game from E to R etc.
And I think you can self cast without hotkeys. Just alt + (your ability of choice) it automatically self casts
27:00 Urgot R, ignite ?
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Ehh idk if he's genuinely broken, but definitely broken for solo queue. I've found the same thing with azir post mini rework. If players aren't willing to exploit the weaknesses of your champ, they don't have any lol.
Zil utility is insane and you can definitely leverage that to do crazy things with a carry jungle + his ult is overwhelming up until mid game. But as long as scaling control mages are viable (and the people playing them are good), zil is mostly a beneficiary of solo queue meta imo.
at 25:20 you could have killed talon after he ults by placing the bomb you got from w onto yourself as you die with ult
the brazilian kaisa is hilarious
Why get blackfire torch over ludens for damage?
cdr
It gives more ability haste. Pretty much every time he plays Zilean, except this time for some reason, he always explains that ability haste is more important than outright damage since with ability haste you can perma-stun people. Essentially Zileans cooldowns are more important than slightly bigger damage numbers.
27:00 big delayed kill i can think of is trist bomb
your videos are op for sleep
Can you play Kayle at some point?
Keep advertising this so I can do phase rush Diana into it and continue to take all these sheep’s lp
delayed damage aurora that passive is nasty or lilia
yay Zilean!
Most Zil blow ive seen for sure. XD
26:40 - 26:46
No one's gonna mention his friend named HotEboyXerath??
please do a nafiri video ❤
If we were a couple I would call you my little PecanPie.
Sleeper build Zilean real
willie p lol
You repeated a lot of things that you said in the first game in the second game. It was quite repetetive
Repetition is how people learn and improve. So it's a good thing.
Day 122 of asking Pekin to upload a video of him reading a bedtime story.
League games are too short, Pekin. Try Dota 2.
Second!
Day 66 of asking Pekin to cosplay Gwen. Day 38 of asking Tinacrys to cosplay Viego with him.
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Fear the fangs. Respect the skill.