The Dark Side of the Jehovah’s Witness World - Lacie Documentary
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- Taboo Room Interviews Lacie who was born into a Jehovah Witness community, Lacie knew no other life and was content with her ‘normal’ until she started to develop into puberty and that is when the sexual abuse started and the dark side of the Jehovah's Witness world came to light in this documentary styled interview, Lacie explains how up until the age of 22 the abuse continued until she finally spoke up. Lacie speaks of her Witness community and the red flags she knew of, but was too afraid to speak about. After a long traumatic legal fight, her perpetrator was finally convicted. This is Lacie’s story of her upbringing in a modern day cult.
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I grew up in this organization and was physically and mentally abused.
Thank you for coming forward your strength is amazing.
Same. Left at 16. And I have complex pstd from it and a life of physical and mental abuse in relationships from it
Yeah I’m 20 bout to be 21 i left at 19
@Warren Bleakley
Mental (psychological) abused for sure. "You should or must go out witnessing".
No "Do you want to go out and blah, blah, blah".
Thus comes with the physical abuse. Denied certain privileges at home.
Work duties increased.
Yes, ABUSED every way abuse can be administered.
rev 6:17 Therefore "Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you."
@@andikarya2528
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Explain what is "UNCLEAN" !!
Anything unclean to me is abuse: psychological, physical or spiritual.
Abuse of "power" as those geriatrics known as Governing Body members practice to keep you dumbed down.
Dumbed down do you can not use uour own brain to think with.
Therefore, heed the advice to: "Get out of her (WTS) my people" and learn to use your own GOD GIVEN brain to reason with.
You do your own research on subjects given by those said geriatrics to be truth or fake as they are false shepherds.
My daughter joined at 15, I’ve not seen her since then because she thinks, is told, I am evil. So hurtful.
I’m sorry 😢
Very sorry, my mom used to call me an apostate
Hang in there! You may get her back sooner than you think! I see them waking up! Be patient! True love is truly long-suffering! and the rewards are simply out of this world! Things are changing and all these cults are exponentially and finally getting exposed! for who and what they truly are! Forgive her! as love truly does conquer all things, we all must forgive. Have a YAHsome day! and see you in paradise! or the heavens; whatever comes first! See you there!
i have done a few bible studies with a jw, but it dosen't change my relationship with my family
@@reecedrkae3833 cuz you’re not all in yet. They will work you to eventually cut off your family or set big boundaries with them. I raised as a JW and I understand how they play mind games. They are very good at creating division within families.
I describe JWs as being in a DV or very controlling relationship. They try to control every part of you life from the clothes you wear to what movies you watch. The list goes on and on
I left when I was 15. It took me 40 years to finally get over it. Much of the time I was terrified that I might be sucked back into their dark world.
Thank you for exposing them, you are very brave
I left @ age twelve, never had a bad experience. Luckily I had my pops which was not a JW because my mom disowned me.
@@agentorange6806sorry to hear but glad you had your pops. I left a year ago and i only have my sister who isnt a jw who i am trying to get her out of the family. And my non jw aunty. My family disowned me but i basically disowned them first to lessen the pain of being disowned. I left when i found my amazing partner
I left when I was 14, when I told my mum I believed in science, she kicked me out and disowned me. Never let me see my siblings until they turned 18 and we reunited. I hated that fucking religion. My family are still in that cult. I'm free as a bird.
@@agentorange6806my Pennsylvania kingdom hall made the news. Elders were molesting little children
@@agentorange6806 what a dummy mum
I also was brought up as a JW for 20 years, my mum was converted but my Dad was not but still had my childhood robbed from me. No sexual abuse but emotional abuse and deprived of being normal. Forced to go knocking on doors bothering people, constant bullying at school. No Christmas or Easter,I was 12 years old before I new when my birthday was. My Mum is still a JW but no longer associates with me since I had the courage to disassociate myself as I married a abusive man who called himself a god fearing man. My so called Mother told me she loved god more than she loved me. I am now 50 with a loving husband and 2 grown children but still has a effect on my life.
I dream of getting upon the platform at the Kingdom Hall and giving them all a sermon of my own. Hate is a strong word, but I hate the lot of them.
I send all my love to you all who have been effected by this so called religion. They are all a bunch of freaks.
Mocked truth?? What truth?? Religion is not truth
The Jehovah witnesses
would do well to remember " let the little children come to me except ye be as these you shall not enter the kingdom of God." (Words of Jesus's of Nazareth.)
I grew up next door to a large family of witnesses, in the eighties and nineties. I always felt sorry for the kids, not being able to celebrate their birthdays or Christmas or anything. It definitely seemed like their doctrines changed rather frequently, as she mentioned. When I first knew them, they didn't identify as "Christians", and a short time later, they claimed to be THE Christians. They had a strange belief regarding the identity of Jesus, as well; I remember them referring to him as having been an angel, which made no sense to me, growing up as an evangelical Christian.
The bad part about Jehovah’s Witnesses is someone could break in your home kill your kid and rape your wife in front of you and a jw will just sit there and not do shit bc “thall shall not kill” and bc what’s happening is “gods will” there fucking evil they really do love there beliefs more then there children… it’s sad
Oh yes. The bullying at school. I was in primary school in the 1960's and as in all schools in the US, every morning, the entire class said the pledge of allegiance while standing, turned towards the flag...except the JW kids. In about 3rd or 4th grade a boy from my class began to follow behind me as we all walked home throwing insults and a good number of rocks at me. This quickly escalated to slaps, shoves and if I hit the ground, kicks. In tears one day I screamed at him, "Why are you being so mean to me?" His answer was, "My dad said I could beat you up even though you're a girl because you must be a Communist since you don't salute the flag". I had to ask my mom what a Communist was and she just said "Never mind. Jehovah will kill him and his dad when Armageddon comes". Thanks mom. It got worse until my grandfather went to the school and told the principle that if this didn't stop he would sue the principle personally as well as the school board. The violence calmed down after that but I was still an object of ridicule.
I was born into Jehovah's Witnesses and was trapped for 30+ years, it completely tore my life apart when I left, it's the last time I ever saw any of my friends or family. I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of people damaged by the Org
If leaving tore your life apart, why did you leave?
If you left because you found staying intolerable, it's OK not to respond.
Maybe people who feel trapped, should prepare for an alternative lifestyle, a sort of detoxification safe house.
@@OneSeasonMan You make some very good points, anybody who has a culture change after a considerable period of time will feel considerable dislocation.
If you were a trapeze artist with supporting performers and decided that as you had never fallen you didn't need the safety net, falling from their grasp would also likely cause considerable dislocation.
However, just because you want to leave the JW organisation doesn't make you hate your creator and his 'His' ways.
The JW organisation doesn't have a monopoly on the procedure to praise and devotion to YHWY/Jehovah.
@@harryzero1566 I first started to realize it wasn't the truth years before I left. Once I didn't believe what was being said from the platform It was uncomfortable to sit there and pretend to be normal.
@@OneSeasonMan yes I was absolutely trapped. I knew the moment I started giving my reasons for leaving, my family and everyone I knew wouldnt speak to me for the rest of my life. It's like dying and starting again.
@@user-vo4wc2jz8gNo point in living a lie, if you no longer belong or believe, if 'it' is the 'truth', you're going to be found out regardless.
My view is that if we were modified or created, we are exceptional, we are responsible for our own destiny.
For me, being lead, or believing in other people's ideas, is delegating our responsibility for our destinies to third parties.
Why should I be subservient to a hierarchical system within any religious dogma?
Imagine how deflated all those believing followers of religious hierarchies must feel when the 'holier than thou' fall from grace.
It's dis...graceful.
I believe that all us recovering JW should bring a class action lawsuit.
Totally. I would sign up in a heart beat.
Me too!
I agree..I really do.
I agree, class action lawsuit is called for! I’m actually surprised this is not taking place all over the world.
I definitely agree,.,I'd get in on that.,
I was also raised as a JW. It’s such an emotionally damaging organisation even without the added sexual abuse. I got out in my late teens and even at middle age there are some difficulties due to the past. It’s better times now with more support so please get all you need and I wish you all the success and fun in life you truly deserve ❤
Emotionally damaging. Sure if you don't want to be taught values in life.
@@quartusbuys6831 There's values in life, morality etc but jw elders seem to get too big for their boots and seem to forget that it is Jehovah that searches the heart, and Jehovah does not make a person do what they cannot do! And of course dont forget that what he expects of us is not hard for us to abide by...the basics...not steeling, not lying etc. The Bible does not say that we cannot drink for eg. rather just a little is good for us, in moderation. I"ve known elders say you're not allowed to drink at all. Also, where does it say that Satan can hear our thoughts? It doesn't, he cannot literally hear our thoughts like Jehovah can. All i'm saying is that elders seem to pressure you by making you feel guilty over untruths. We answer only to Jehovah and not man, regardless of their outside social standing.
@@margo.3466 I agree on most of your comments but not all. Try figure yourself which ones.
@@quartusbuys6831 hi there, which comments don't you agree with?
@@margo.3466 First one.
This video should be compulsory viewing at every kingdom hall throughout the world.
They will never allow it for money reasons foremost
Are you kidding?
@@leadanon127 Absolutely not. It's a dangerous cult.
@@lisadawnrussell If they dared show it, it would be the end for them.
Dead right. So they can see and hear the utter LIES she is spreading.
I grew up as a JW in the midlands, I think the effects of my upbringing will always have an effect on me. Your so brave sending hugs xxx
A religion from Hell.
The bible condemns all behaviour mentioned in this interview.
True Christianity teaches us to love your children because they are a blessing from God.
So sorry this happened to you.
Praying for you.
I love that russia is banning the watchtower cult the United States should kick them out and bann them
@@stonerdoom3481 ?
Toward the end, she says "I couldn't understand how they chose not to help me . . . how they chose to help an abuser . . ." In reality, the elders were trying to help the organization, not the abuser. The organization didn't want to get sued. They loved money more than they loved honor, truth or justice. This almost always happens. Read Donald Jeffries' book "Bullyocracy" about how institutions almost always side with the bully and try to gaslight the victim (in order to evade lawsuits).
My best friend became a JW after that all I heard, no matter what we did together was him telling me I needed to be a JW. Finally one day, we had gone spearfishing together and he dropped me off at my house and he told me that the elders at his Kingdom Hall had told him he had to treat me like a heathen because I wouldn't become a JW. I stood there in total shock as he told me that from that day forward he would not speak to me or even recognize my existence. I told him if for no other reason than that I would NEVER become a JW, he left his wife and kids, he got fired from his jobs, then he put a gun in his mouth, ALL! due to the JW organization, they are evil to no end.
@@OneSeasonMan you're clealry a statistic of the unintelligent people this church typically targets. Every single person still in this cult argues in the same idiotic, straw grasping way that you do. Clearly the people who leave this cult simply don't have the low IQ it takes to stay
Had an old friend that JW told me he had to block me bc i wasn’t JW. His loss 🤷♀️
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Are you guys proud leaving jehovah witness church READ this>> This man left the jehovah witness Seven people killed by gunfire in church was ex jehovah witness
At least seven people have been killed and more have been seriously injured in a shooting in Germany. One or more people opened fire in a church in the northern city of Hamburg. Police rushed to the scene at 9pm amid unconfirmed reports of shooters on the run (Picture: AP)
Afte gaining entry to the building the suspect fled to the first floor, where he was pursued by officers before taking his own life.
Eight people died in the incident, including the attacker.
The victims were four men, two women and an unborn baby still in its mother’s womb.
There had been 50 people in the congregation at the time.
Hamburg police chief Ralf Martin Meyer said the suspected shooter had a weapons license and legally owned a semi-automatic pistol.
Although he passed all the legal checks required to own the firearm, authorities received an anonymous report in Jan 2023 which suggested F may have an undiagnosed mental illness and should be investigated
this is insane , my sister has been in a secret relationship for 4 years now with a jw .... and had purchased 17 firearms under her name but for him. My God do not let her kill herself!!!!
@@Jlis2025whataboutism about an unrelated incident does not erase the horrible behavior of Jehovah' s Witness leaders in covering child sexual abuse. There is no central leadership for "Apostates." No one put a gun in that man' s hands and told him to shoot up that hall. And ex witnesses with any kind of platform have all denounced his actions. The exjw community is not a monolith. Unlike the JW' s, it has no governing body. The only thing making it a community is the shared experience of having been involved with witnesses and left. Within the community there are debates, differences of opinions, and some times all out conflicts. Some still are religious, some are Atheists. Some believe in "in your face" activism, like loudly interrupting meetings. Others disavow that behavior. I have not seen a single person applaud that shooter. Of course "we" arent proud of him. You are changing the subject in an attempt to deflect and it's frankly pathetic.
The way they protect pedophiles and throw victims of abuse under the bus just makes my blood boil! I’m so sorry you had to endure that, and you’re so brave to talk about it! I hope you get the justice you deserve!
My JW family are the same, my vile Narcissistic nan esp
When you bring up about child abuse they say they tell the police and let them deal with it I am not sure if that is true but they make u believe what they believe
That's almost every pedophile's community, whether JW or Baptist, or Catholic or simply 'the community' in small towns.
@@debbiemullis236 they do not tell the police,they have a two person witness rule asin two people have to see the abuse in order for them to even internally investigate, they keep files on abusers and do not expell them, podcast "call bethel" explains this very well.
I think they need to change the rule on having two witnesses I was abused myself but not by a witness they need to change
Your bravery is so admirable. I'm so sorry Lacie. No child deserves what you have endured. Thank you for our courage to speak up and help others!
@@OneSeasonMan You couldn't be more incorrect. As a former elder who dealt with this VERY subject, I'd be curious to read what your experience is with Jehovah's Witnesses? I'm going to guess little to none based on this remark. However, as is common among JW's, you seem to parrot the response of the Governing Body....there is a database of pedophiles at HQ. They lie on the stand: see Australian Commission....and victims are winning multi-million dollar lawsuits. And oh yes.....but, but, but... "Armageddon" right? We will keep waiting for that..... 109 years into the 'last days'...….meanwhile, BRAVO to those exposing how child abuse as a VERY serious problem among Jehovah's Witnesses. So Ben.....feel free to count your time 'witnessing' on UA-cam......looking a like a big hour month for January!
@@OneSeasonMan Simple stuff Ben. Glad you're happy. That's great. Now on to Jehovah's Witnesses: there are many wonderful JW's. However, the Governing Body hides pedophiles. FACT. If you're a believer in God, I'm sure you're a Bible reader? I'm sure you know the Golden Rule? Jesus said to 'love your neighbor as yourself'.... does hiding pedophiles and child abusers show respect for that BASIC law? Does it show love to innocent JW children? How about the non JW children in the neighborhood? What is an 'overheated female?'.............and everyone who is an ex-JW is a proven liar? By who? By what comparison? LOL....FACT: the organization of JW's allows children to be in harms way, it rewards abusers with protection and it destroys the innocent minds of children with propaganda that has PROVEN to be wrong. You have every right to believe what you want...........but the facts are the facts. Carry on!
@@OneSeasonMan her abuse and the coverup of her abuse were both proven. Her abuser clifford whitely was convicted based on his documented confession to other elders in a judicial comittee for porneia. The detective who worked the case submitted a sworn statement to the IICSA hearings in the UK. His name is Philip Endsor, and you find a pdf file of his sworn statement with a 5 second google search, as it is a matter of public record. He made it clear he got no help from the elders obtaining that documented confession. Lacie had to use European Union data release law to get the record.
So why are you on this forum, stating as a matter of fact that she is lying? What is in it for you to deny her side of the story, which has been proven by the information Watchtower UK had in their possession, which they are proven to have withheld. Shame on you.
My mother has been a JW for decades and I wish I could get her out of that mess.
When they came to my door...i would tell them the truth.....ANY ONE WHO HAS TO BE TOLD,WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO DO IT SHOULD BE J.W"S..THEN THEY PUT ME ON QUARTINE and told there jw buddies to stay away from me...
I am well known with them....been since the late 1970s...BRAIN WASHED ...IF THEY HAD ONE....don't waste you LIFE.. TRY TO SAVE OTHERS...
Try getting her to read the real bible, not the JW mistranslation. Let her know there is NO salvation except through JESUS CHRIST. Matthew 1:21 John 14:6. Let her know that she will not want to hear the words of Matthew 7:23 at the judgment.
All religion are created by human.but peoples minds never believe this truth.
Aretha H I'm sorry you will never succeed by trying to get your mother out. I'm trying to do that also for decades.
Just keep praying for her and give it to God. He will see her through…..don’t worry 🙏
More children in any religious sec need to hear these stories and understand that life was NEVER meant to be oppressive. I applaud her for speaking out.
Sorry if they're religious they wouldn't be able to obuse children they're satanic coult God will send them to he'll for eternity .I'm not sure how people from this coult used to make me feel very angry each time they were nocking on my door .I can't stand them they're worse then direa I ask them why did you left your previous religion ? They're thinking that God and Jesuse are going to help them out with sins they're doing I told them I don't think so 🤔 You can't do bad thinks to others and think that God will help you you have two roads one is going to God /Jesus and other road to he'll satan/devil you make you own choices .That all of us going to have judgement day when we die
@@Jlis2025 JW are not believes in God and Jesus Christ they're satanic coult secretive organisation obusing children who does that but evils. Many different colts shouldn't use the name Church , Church is the God's Holly house where people can go to do praying ,Baptist, weddings and funerals Amin
Lacie, my heart dropped, hearing you share your story. A virtual hug from a fellow survivor in Australia.
I seek for friendship with you, which was why i wrote you, hope you don't mind?
Dear Lacie. I've been in tears several times while listening to you. I was also abused by a family member as a young child. Though probably not physically as bad as you either.
But it's the fear and shame that a child must live with day after day, year after year, that creates the deep trauma that never really goes away. Living in the same house as the perpetrator and constantly trying to avoid being alone with them.
I finally told my mother when I was in my late 30s. She didn't cry. She didn't hug me. She stayed sitting on the other side of my lounge room while I too cried "the sort of crying that you can't come back from".
The religion has a lot to answer for. The damage of their mind control in all areas of my life were profound.
Thankfully I'm free of those thoughts now and I did leave home at 17 to escape the control. However, I did suffer for years due to the upbringing. But I also became a very strong woman.
You spoke beautifully and I'm so very very glad that you are properly free of that religion while you're still young.
AND big shout out to your wonderful sister and brother in-law. What a fantastic support they were. 🤗❤️
Serving God is a relationship not a religion.
@@TruthHurtsSoGetAHelmet A relationship with with your imagination. An omnipotent god who so desperately needs our attention and worship that he plans to have a day of great anger over a lack of attention from those who he purposely made unable to perceive it? Utterly ridiculous.
An omnipotent creator would understand that proof is the only way you'll convince honest people. If those people and his worship really meant so much to him, then he'd be an idiot (impossible if you're omnipotent) to deny us proof beyond any reasonable doubt.
The religion asserts that honest enquiry is challenging his sovereignty. Honest testing and proving is the only possible way to be absolutely sure of anything. This is very revealing. Their modus operandi is to hide, obscure and obfuscate the truth, purposely punishing honest questions, all while repeatedly affirming their narrative as "the truth" disgusting behavior.
Would you kill your child in refuse of blood transfusion over something that cannot be proven? Because if you would than you've allowed them to turn you into something disgusting.
Thanks for sharing your story too. It’s so sad there are actually many CSA victims. I was able to see the real truth of this org since I understand English, hearing all the victim’s voices. It’s actually technology that shows us the facts and reality.
@@TruthHurtsSoGetAHelmet Yes that right but Jehovah does not make you do what is beyond your capability. Bible clearly states that Jehovah does not make it difficult for us to follow him (ten commandments). However some elders do, and pressure people and make them feel guilty over nothing (no sinning). Maybe 'this attitude' of theirs is called bullying?
human trafficked as religious toms and mrs toms that jews and muslim jews breed as sanguinary sanguine inbreds.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. Keep spreading the message and warn everyone the dangers of this toxic religion.
This cult needs to be destroyed. Coming from an ExJehovahs witnesses for 17 years
Everyone has to be accountable for there own actions. We cant piont finger at an entire religion when a person or group who claims the religion does something wrong.
I no longer associate with Jehovahs witnessess, because I know I am not following a righteuos path instead I'm for the streets.
@@2nightsoff278 its not just one person. 10s of thousands have been affected by this religion, shunned for not believing 8 men in New York.
@Andreas John ...And to make matters worse, the elders have done NOTHING to stop child abuse or sexual assault due to the organization's RIDICULOUS "2 witnesses rules"!
As a result, MUCH of the cases are left unreported and hidden under the rug! The elders are essentially letting MANY of the perpetrators of child abuse and sexual assault get away with their crimes! The victims are not safe, and the people whom we're supposed to trust are not doing anything about it! 😠😡😡
If you see that a child is being abused, REPORT IT TO THE POLICE WITH EVIDENCE OF THE ABUSE!!! DON'T just leave it unreported! These children NEED to be removed from dangerous environments and put in safe spaces where they won't be harmed any further! These children aren't safe!
Iron age religion needs wiping out
Along with the Catholic Church .
My grandparents were some of the first Jehovah's Witnesses. My Grandfather molested his youngest daughter and that caused some serious psychological damage that she was never able to recover from. I don't know if he ever molested my mom. She passed away at age 75 ten years ago. It's so sad when any church or religion covers up crime and abuse!
This lady is the deal, brave, courageous with more integrity in her hair follicles than the whole church put together. I am awed by her strength. Thank you for sharing your story Lacie ❤
Well done for speaking up! Thanks for sharing your story and experience with us.
Thank you for speaking out 🙏
I was 13 when I got baptized. 9:36
Worst decision I’ve made my whole life 😢
I got baptized at 11 and my other friend at 9 it was the worst decision
One of my best mates got baptised last year at 11. Losing him would be terrible but it is what it is. I’m 13
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Were you mentally and spiritually mature to know what you were doing ??
@@robertgrey6101 I was but mostly for my parents
@@robertgrey6101 No child is mature enough to make these choices. Your religious views shouldn't even be a topic of discussion until they are teenagers.
This religion presents itself as truth but in reality it is a very dangerous.
Dangerous how?
@@SheWhoRemainz Its how they shun everyone who gets disfellowshipped and then the person(s) commit suicide because of being shunned. Plus all of the children who are abused sexually and they dont report to police.
@@SheWhoRemainz explain how?
How is it dangerous?
The governing body presents itself as being wonderful but they are controlled by the devil. They are wolves in sheep's clothing. look into it. Most of people (rank and file) are good folks but are oblivious to what's really going on.
Thank you for sharing! You’re incredibly Brave. I was raised in this Cult, I’ve been out for 15 years and still struggle with relationships and anger.
You are very brave & I am impressed by your understanding & logic. I was part of the group of abused ones in Australia & the first day of the enquiry mentioned my abuser’s name - I had put that memory so far down but it just exploded that day.
An old friend, an elder, asked me to give him a reason why I wouldn’t return & I said “I can give you a thousand reasons” that was the number in Australia!!
Keep your chin up precious girl ❤️💜
👋i hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness prosperity love and peace 💞❤️🕊️🕊️ all over the world 🙏🌍
I'm originally from Canada currently living in California ☀️☀️☀️☀️and you where are you from if i may ask?💭
@@franklinstephen3268 I am in Perth now but lived in England previously. Lovely weather here but getting a bit hot next week 😎😎🥵
@@vanessakelly5993 That’s good to know, it’s raining and very cold here. Did you went for the Christmas holiday there?
What a spectacular testimony! May the great “I AM” bless you for the rest of your life! And May you find a living relationship with God and Jesus Christ who has shown us “The Way”.
I seek for friendship with you, which was why i wrote you, hope you don't mind?
A common theme in this cult, is that the mother's of the abused will insist they (own children) remain silent and reporting the abuse is discouraged.
The mother's show little to no emotions and have no remorse upon hearing their child cry out for help.
Maybe it's because, the mother's themselves experienced abuse and have been encouraged to never expose their abusers. Hence the lack of emotional reaction.
jw teaches mothers to lack the natural love for own children, their pledge is to the 8 gov-nobodies, the cult.
Thank you for coming forward Lacie. Brave woman 💞
@@Jlis2025 What a very strange question!
Why would anybody be proud of someone capable of such a monstrosity, let alone doing such an unbelievably terrible thing?
@@Jlis2025 I think you need a long hard look in the mirror, and not the one the cult provides you with.
@@Jlis2025 All that said Josie, I find it very telling, and rather disturbing that you should use this awful incident to attack those that have woken up from the fallacious religion you are no doubt a part of.
You are a very brave, intelligent, young woman. Corruption is the bottom line of these closed-door 'religious' cults. Many people are ignorantly led astray, and others willingly follow their leaders path of sickness, into an allegiance of silence. Your courage matters-GOOD FOR YOU!!! I am terribly sorry for what you had to/do endure.
You amazing lady. Thank you so so much for speaking out.. you do it with such grace. May life be kind x
Very, Very touching and thought provoking. Thank you for sharing, Lacie.
This strikes a chord with me Lacie.
I new a girl at school back in the sixties and she told me that she wasn’t allowed to to socialise with anybody her own age.
Well done love you are a very strong lady.🇬🇧❤️
So sorry to hear your story and what you went through, but you are very brave for telling your story and speaking up, there is far too much of this happening!
I seek for friendship with you, which was why i wrote you, hope you don't mind?
THIS IS REALLY GOOD! My Jehovah family are the most dark and abusive people.
Absolutely! My mother is literally Satan!
Why?
@clarence stoddard can you be more specific? And what does koolaid mean?
@@Jlis2025 That is a very strange question!
Why would anybody be proud of someone capable of such a monstrosity, let alone doing such an unbelievably terrible thing?
@@Jlis2025 What is wrong with you?!!
I’m so very sorry that u went through this. It’s disgusting how they always protect the abuser and not the abused. Sending love and hugs
I seek for friendship with you, which was why i wrote you, hope you don't mind?
Bravo LaCie for speaking the truth! You will be fine. The Universe will take care of you! I hope others see your video and are saved from becoming part of JW.
I became a JW when I was 21. Totally devoted to the “truth” (as JW) call their believes. I instantly became a full time preacher. Climbed the ranks (which they claim there are no ranks). I was a pioneer, special pioneer, bethelite, missionary. My husband was on a branch committee in country where we served as missionaries. The closer I got to the “headquarters” the worse the organization looked. I finally denounced my faith due to similar issue as Lacie. The organization covers up sexual abusers, which allows these predators to continue to hurt others. I had served JW for 38 years, devoted my entire life to the work. My husband died suddenly. My chance to leave the organization. When I left I did not receive a penny, no support at all. Nothing. They left me in the cold. I was 60 years old! No pension, no social security, no insurance. I did not bad mouth the organization. Did not expose their wickedness. But they felt no obligation to me what so ever. Sorry, sorry, sorry organization that claims they love mankind. That was ten years ago. I am grateful everyday that I left. Things have turned out beautifully for me. The Creator saw me and took care of me, continues to take care for me, I lack nothing!
@Jadey Roo for me the Universe is the Creator!
@@bethh1448 That's called Pantheism
My gosh I am so sorry this happened to you, you served for so long, must have been so heart breaking. Big hugs xx
You are BEYOND BRAVE & will inspire others to tell their story!!!! THANK YOU for having the courage to do this!!! 💪 🙌 ❤ 👏
Lacie, I am so, so, so sorry. My heart breaks for you:/ I was born in and grew up a jw. Something similar happened to a girl a year younger than me that I've known all my life and consider a sister as much as my biological sister. I saw what it did to her and I was blind with rage at the lack of protection that she was given when she came forward. But it didn't wake me up bc I thought it was a one-off, a bad situation where I lived. It wasn't until I was in my 30s and I finally realized this is a worldwide travesty that's being committed and overlooked deliberately everyday in the org, that's when I woke up and became determined to get out and never look back. Fortunately I never married or had kids but it scares me to death to think that if I had, anytime in the last 15 years, I would have raised them in this cult. That thought makes my stomach hurt every time I think it:/
As traumatic and horrific that must have been , I hope you’ve found solace in that the organisation revealed itself to you , and that your life is now able to go in a different direction ! Sending you big hugs 🤗 your experience was heartbreaking 💔
An old ex of mine had invited me into his JW church and I remember asking him why those ppl were in that room with clear glass. And why are they separated from the rest of the congregation. He said because they sinned and that they had to be separated to prevent the spreading of their sin. I asked, but aren’t we all sinners? And he said yes but they did something really bad. And I said, why can’t they just ask God for forgiveness and sit with the rest of us sinners? He couldn’t answer that.
@@OneSeasonMan in the UK every Kingdom hall has a 'second school' usually at the back. It's often used by mother's with crying babies or by disfellowshiped persons so they can leave before the final song so that nobody stares at them. Most times it has a window through to the main hall.
@@OneSeasonMan In reply to 'this' does it not occur to you that not only 'you' are correct but that Eden Little is also correct. I know of this room and you are correct with its use so the room actually DOES EXIST! So Eden is not lying but he was told a LIE as to its use. Perhaps a jw has just said this to him to make sure or persuade him not to sin himself! This is being untruthful or controlling on the part of the jw that said this to him.
Let me help you answer this question why, tho a fellow has already did. There cannot be any such separate rooms, even in our kingdom hall in Lithuania, they sit among us, we do not ignore them or avoid, but we are vary, for they have been and learned with us, they knew that what they did was looked down upon by Yehowa but they still chose to live with the same reoccurring mistake and sin. Now elders are working with them because they seemed to have want to repent and understood their wrongdoings. My hear breaks for those who have been damaged by the ones in charge. Sometimes errors happen among the elders, who are like the wolves in sheep's clothes, tho thank God we have none such in our place.
@@Karolina-jo3om Watchtower says an active JW shouldn't even say hello to a disfellowshiped person and strict avoidance is necessary, both in social and spiritual fellowship.
@@user-vo4wc2jz8g then I praise Yehowa and thank him from the bottom of my heart that our kingdom hall is nothing like this, we are receive no such advice to look down upon those who have turned away from the truth and God, and wished to return. We accept them and briefly walk over to them to congratulate and wish them the best in healing and atonement. Tho there are some that actually tend to avoid them, I asked one family why and they explained. "Oh we do not discriminate at all, but we have made this decision for ourselves because of the common sin embedded in us all. Out of fear that one or a other conversation may come out with them disappropriate to the way of God and Jesus and in fear we may find agreement with them, to the ideology of this world they may still carry with them. So it is not because of them, but of because of us and our fear that we may be tempted. As we will watch their progress, someday we will see them as before, without fear." I do understand them and respect their decision, I myself am new among the witness and can freely converse with the returnees, without any shame from anyone. Even if the lady may speak out ideological thoughts or opinion that do not agree with Yehowa, if they try to implant some sort of justification or excuse, i know my will and strength and simply say my prayer to God to give me wisdom and strenght to not be tempted and not mind their ideas and simply explain to them how things should be according to bible.
To see the strength and inner beauty of this hurt soul still shining through in this interview is so... breathtaking.
It’s only a matter of time before this cult is over.
NOT while there are gullible stupid SHEEP....
That is disgraceful, I'm so sorry this happened to you. Nothing I say will make you feel any better, I hope you find peace and some closure as you deserve all the happiness and good things x
I seek for friendship with you, which was why i wrote you, hope you don't mind?
You're very brave to tell us your story. Thank you. This will help many people.
Your story will help others to speak up and tell the truth about this org ! So sorry you had to go thru that horrible experience .
Being a witness for 3 years I saw how difficult it was for these kids growing up in this damaging Cult. I got out before getting married and having children because I wasn’t going to let this organization ruin their lives.
I’m curious how you joined, I’ve had many JWs visit my house and talk to me about whatever bullshit they had to say I thought it was fun wasting their time and I was fully aware at a very young age it’s a weird cult
So, sin is bad but the church getting a bad rep is worse. Got it.
This is not just sin...this is a crime... Child sexual abuse is a crime... I don't fully understand this case and whether there has been a police prosecution or otherwise... The video comes to an abrupt end so I am left uncertain as to its outcome... This is certainly a dreadful case of abuse and not far from where I once served either...
Not the church.
Witnesses are no part of the church, nor do they claim to be.
They do not want to bring "reproach" on the name of "Jehovah," the god they have created.
This organization makes it easy for pedophiles to live amongst other congregants without anyone knowing a possible predator is present. Please research the Australian Royal Commission. JWs have a database of pedophiles called the Child Maltreatment Database. Elders are placed in a position to handle situations they are not equipped to handle and some of these Elders are predators themselves.
Thank you for your bravery in sharing this. Very Powerful! All the best in your healing.
Wow....What a strong young lady. Her story is very touching and troubling!
Thank you for speaking out, you are beautiful, strong and brave. Unfortunately that is very common in many religions, I was abused within the christadelphian religion and I was kicked out of my family and the church when I spoke out. Thank you for speaking your truth, everyone that speaks out is helping raise awareness, and hopefully one day it will get so uncomfortable they will stop hiding such a horrendous evil towards children.
I heard this in the news today?
This man left the jehovah witness He killed by gunfire in church was ex jehovah witness
At least seven people have been killed and more have been seriously injured in a shooting in Germany. One or more people opened fire in a church in the northern city of Hamburg. Police rushed to the scene at 9pm amid unconfirmed reports of shooters on the run (Picture: AP)
Afte gaining entry to the building the suspect fled to the first floor, where he was pursued by officers before taking his own life.
Eight people died in the incident, including the attacker.
The victims were four men, two women and an unborn baby still in its mother’s womb.
There had been 50 people in the congregation at the time.
Hamburg police chief Ralf Martin Meyer said the suspected shooter had a weapons license and legally owned a semi-automatic pistol.
Although he passed all the legal checks required to own the firearm, authorities received an anonymous report in Jan 2023 which suggested F may have an undiagnosed mental illness and should be investigated...My question is are YOU proud of this guy?
I seek for friendship with you, which was why i wrote you, hope you don't mind?
Dear Lacie! Thank you so much for sharing your life story 😢 not a easy one…… I am PIMO bu not attending any meetings from August 2021 and I will never come back to that organisation. Story like yours helps make write decisions ❤
👋i hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness prosperity love and peace 💞❤️🕊️🕊️ all over the world 🙏🌍
I'm originally from Canada currently living in California ☀️☀️☀️☀️and you where are you from if i may ask?💭😊
Try JW Escape on UA-cam? Excellent videos and compassion. Quite a number of PIMO's following Elaine of JW Escape. She's lovely. All the best.
So many of these stories are coming out. The issue with the ORG is not that they have sexual abuse instances that arise, because all organizations have that issue, I believe. The issue that damns them (Jehovahs Witneses) IMO is their absolute refusal to take these cases seriously and to report the cases they have to the police. I also grew up in the BORG and witnessed sexual abuse by many towards many. It was never handled well or sometimes even at all.
Just like ALLother religious organisations
Because protecting the reputation of the organisation is more important to them than protecting children. That’s the bottom line. Maintain the facade.
The witnesses are one of the worse for this, if not the worse large religion, for protecting the reputation of their fake god, their society, that takes priority above everything else, including family, children, education, emotional and mental wellbeing.
@@ne0beatsm0rp98 The BORG is being sued NOW…for the way it handled CSA CASES in the past. Yes, the BORG may have changed its practices recently, after many, many lawsuits and scandals that are now being brought to light, regarding their policies of the last 50 years or so. (EG Australian Royal Commission) Point is…no organization that concealed CSA cases from the police or the public…past or present….and allowed children to continue being abused, as the JW’s have for YEARS, could possibly be of God. This woman’s case is one example of MANY. I’ve seen the exact same thing play out in two congregations I’ve personally been associated with.
@@ne0beatsm0rp98 “our congregation”? I’m guessing by your channel playlist that you’re not very serious about being a witness, no?
How long have you been in the police? Which force, may I ask?
You’ve obviously not heard about the two witness rule, it’s real world impacts, or are aware of how reputation comes before victim? (Giving you the benefit of the doubt.)
@@ne0beatsm0rp98 Also, becoming a British Police officer demands that you swear an alliance to the current Monarch. That is a clash for a witness, and disallowed.
I doubt very much that you are an older officer that has since become a witness, judging by your musical choice, and the current high educational standards that becoming an officer demands, would imply a further clash. (EG: A high grade in ‘English’ being a small part of the minimum requirement. Apologies, but your literary skills, claims of your experience in your congregation, and being in the police, don’t add up.)
Same thing happened to me here in Australia. My own father was an elder and also lead a paedophile ring of 5 other men within the congregation. I was horrifically abused every second day from 7 years old until I was 10, when I had to have emergency surgery to repair major damage to my butt. Nothing was ever done because the men were protected by the organisation. I've since been disfellowshipped for not conforming, being disruptive to their teachings and labelled an apostate for speaking against them.
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That’s horrifying. Good for you for speaking out. I’m so sorry you weren’t protected and treated the way you deserved. I really hope you are in a way better situation now❤❤❤
@@Jeron_Benton wtf dude?
I am so sorry that happened to you. Your strength and bravery is commendable.
Some of us are starting to believe that this is sex trafficing without actually being seen as sex trafficing! There are a couple other incidences that I heard about with ancidences like yours! I mean, how does a religion like the Catholic church have only 4, 000 pedaphiles out of 35 + million members, but JWs that only have (what believe is an exagerated number) of only 8 million have 60,720 pedaphiles in their database that they've been holding since the 1950s? That's a huge number percentage wise amongst a much much smaller group!
Well done Lacie.
Interesting that you said how well respected Cliff was, but a few of us didn’t feel that way at all. But none of us would have thought he’d do what he did.
It’s great that Kerry supported you so well.
The organisation’s stance on child abuse was perfectly adhered to by that congregation. I doubt the two elders that dealt with you have struggled with their conscience since 2019
I hope Ellie is ok
You’ve shown a lot of courage Lacie
Best wishes
Nick Bourne
May I ask, we’re you in same congregation with her. If you were I wonder how the congregations was responding when this case was going on.
@@lh1673 yes we were in the same congregation. You’ve asked a good question. In answer, I’d focus on how the elders were.
To digest what had happened, the loudest voice in the congregation being a sexual abuser, the congregation needed the elders to step up and offer some sort of comfort and reassurance; that was what I least expected. Nothing was offered. They were silent.
They didn’t give the police what they required, and they didn’t give the congregation what we required.
@@nickbourne3910 Thank you for the reply. Here in my country there are not much cases of CSA problem so the jw here including my family and friends will not believe about the news that I told them that is going on in Australia and US. They will say maybe the victims are exaggerating the story, those pedo were apostate from the first place, and all sorts of nonsense excuses and at the end tells me not to watch foreign news so much. I am so disappointed by their response and so shocked how they can be uncaring to the victims. I wish one day can show what is the fact about this org by her voice and your comment too. Thanks again.
@@nickbourne3910 Nick, it is so good to see your name. Thank you so much for being one of few from the congregation who supported me at the time and continue to support me now. Please let me know how we can keep in touch! Much love Nick x
@@TheNutter1997 you deserve all the respect in the world for sharing your story, for all your power to do so ! Religion makes more victims than any drug or war, there is so much child abuse going on behind the front door.... ! You are a way shower for many who have gone or go thru the same trauma. You step up and turned your darkness into light, your an absolute angel 🙏❤️thank you so much !
I’m sorry you went through this Lacie.
I also grew up a witness and that book of biblical stories you talked about has traumatized me. Didn’t actually realize until I was in my 30s that this book is the reason why I get panic attacks when the subject of death arises.
Wow... this was powerful and horrible and moving all at the same time. When I came to God I had a co-worker who was part of the organization and tried every day for literally a year to convince me to join them. Thank goodness I didn't do it...
Your courage and strength is inspirational. Remember, God will always love you. No matter what you do. God's love is unconditional.
A fellow midlander here. So sad you had to injure that. You spoke bravely and well. Ex jw 20yrs. Life is good. Enjoy it girl, have a blast
scott, I heard this in the news today?
This man left the jehovah witness He killed by gunfire in church was ex jehovah witness
At least seven people have been killed and more have been seriously injured in a shooting in Germany. One or more people opened fire in a church in the northern city of Hamburg. Police rushed to the scene at 9pm amid unconfirmed reports of shooters on the run (Picture: AP)
Afte gaining entry to the building the suspect fled to the first floor, where he was pursued by officers before taking his own life.
Eight people died in the incident, including the attacker.
The victims were four men, two women and an unborn baby still in its mother’s womb.
There had been 50 people in the congregation at the time.
Hamburg police chief Ralf Martin Meyer said the suspected shooter had a weapons license and legally owned a semi-automatic pistol.
Although he passed all the legal checks required to own the firearm, authorities received an anonymous report in Jan 2023 which suggested F may have an undiagnosed mental illness and should be investigated
Her strength is inspiring ❤️
I heard this in the news today?
This man left the jehovah witness He killed by gunfire in church was ex jehovah witness
At least seven people have been killed and more have been seriously injured in a shooting in Germany. One or more people opened fire in a church in the northern city of Hamburg. Police rushed to the scene at 9pm amid unconfirmed reports of shooters on the run (Picture: AP)
Afte gaining entry to the building the suspect fled to the first floor, where he was pursued by officers before taking his own life.
Eight people died in the incident, including the attacker.
The victims were four men, two women and an unborn baby still in its mother’s womb.
There had been 50 people in the congregation at the time.
Hamburg police chief Ralf Martin Meyer said the suspected shooter had a weapons license and legally owned a semi-automatic pistol.
Although he passed all the legal checks required to own the firearm, authorities received an anonymous report in Jan 2023 which suggested F may have an undiagnosed mental illness and should be investigated...My question is are YOU proud of this guy?
Bravo Lacie for having the courage to come frwd and to share your story with us. Very important
Wow! As a man this Cliff guy let me down too, I don't know him and I'm not a Jehova witness, I mean he let down my gender. You are a vey brave lady to even do this interview and you have my upmost respect. I am truly sorry you had to go through this, I often wonder about girls and women that have had this sort of abuse how they feel about men afterwards, there are some monsters out there, but not all men are the same, this goes back to my first part, these monsters let decent men down by doing these horrible things.
My beloved husband was verbally abused in JWs With we were young there were elders that were eyeing me as a potential mate but I loved my man We were both abused because we were working class people and did not make very much money. We are honest and tried yo be loving to all glad we left that evil organization after a few years and we develop a strong relationship with Our Heavenly Father and Jesus and they helped us to heal and become spiritually strong! ❤
So brave of you to share! Thank you.
Very interesting indeed. I listened with both admiration for the lady and shock at the behaviour of a so called religion of Jehovers Witness. After a conversation with 2 Jehovers Witnesses several years ago whilst they were door knocking in the area they have been contacting me ever since, sending me letters and inviting me to their local Kingdom Hall in Merseyside. I have ignored all correspondence.
A married Jeovah witness,ruined my life,it was the most cold and calculist person i ever knew.i will never again look at jeovahs witnesses in a positive way !
JC's last teaching to his disciples:"Beware of all false teachers, preachers, and prophets for they will claim they are from me but, they stand against all that I am".
There were hosts of humans at that time who claimed to be of a god, or a prophet, and no doubt most of them felt as though their own message was the truth.
The irony that those words are the blueprint of cult lingo.
1975 didn't bring the end and paradise on earth didn't happen in 1975 . They have a lengthy history of false prophecies
Dearest Lacie and you are a survivor of Sexual abuse of a elder I was abused by a very sick man and what you and all us victims we feel wrong ashamed and it starts and then the graphic abuse happens your story is a very powerful one and those elders and the governing body are accountable for there actions
I was in the organization when I was young. All the people I met where good people who really believed in the truth. I left because I wanted to run the streets. I never heard once about abuse. I feel for anyone who did experience abuse.
My heart and respect goes to all children any age and men or woman who go through that and fight back and expose those sick F...cks. . I admire you for your strenght to speak up and keep fighting your whole life..❤❤❤
🇩🇪Berlin
I'm a survivor beating on the regular a 15 year old girl committed suicide in her bathtub at her home We need to save the children raised in this cult
I also grew up in Jehovah's witlessness, I cold tell you some horrible stories I have witnessed myself or was told by other young teens. I had this one friend that i grew up with in the Congregation and after about 10 years she confided in me about her father who was also an elder had raped her daily for more then 10 years. the congregation didn't do anything to him at all. This is just one of many stories and this was all from one small city in southwest florida I would say about 25 years ago. I thank you for being brave enough to come forward and talk about what happened because I know how much they pressure you into keeping silent, again I can't say how brave you were for that thank you.
They do not celebrate halloween because they hate when people knock on their door and bug them for stuff. 😅🤣😂
I was born into the Witnesses. My Grandmother joined in her late 20's so my mother and her older sister were born into it, and I know exactly what this woman is talking about concerning growing up without holidays, birthdays, three times a week religious study, and being always warned about having friends outside of the congregation though I was lucky to have never been abused like this woman. But there was a tremendous amount of psychological abuse. The fear they instill into the children is awful. My younger sister had nightmares about what would happen to her because she felt she would never measure up in the eyes of this vengeful God. The day I realized I was done, I was almost 12 and my sister was 8. It was a late December day and we were out playing in the snow. A neighbor had their Christmas Tree lighted up in their front window and I stopped to look at the twinkling lights. My sister grabbed my arm and begged me not to look because God might kill me. She was truly afraid for me. Something clicked in my head and I understood that any belief system that terrifies children like this is wrong. It took another year and a half before my refusals to participate finally enraged my mother to the point that she washed her hands of my religious training. I do believe in God but this is a "made up" religion that is nothing more than a cult.
I grew up in a neighborhood that has all those beautiful lights and decorations on Christmas and sadly enough our house is the only one that doesn’t have those beautiful lights. I felt so inferior from my playmates that I don’t have the desire to co- mingle with them. I am glad I got out from this inferiority complex and now that I got out from this belief and now have Children, I exposed them to this awesome tradition and things got awesome.
Absolutely infuriating. I admire your courage. Wishing you the very best.
I was raised a JW too and all they did was traumatize me. They honestly don’t care about you unless you give them money.
My goodness......
I am lost for words!.... What a eye opening incredibly sad sad testimony.
I take my hat off to this brave young lady.
I heard this in the news today?
This man left the jehovah witness He killed by gunfire in church was ex jehovah witness
At least seven people have been killed and more have been seriously injured in a shooting in Germany. One or more people opened fire in a church in the northern city of Hamburg. Police rushed to the scene at 9pm amid unconfirmed reports of shooters on the run (Picture: AP)
Afte gaining entry to the building the suspect fled to the first floor, where he was pursued by officers before taking his own life.
Eight people died in the incident, including the attacker.
The victims were four men, two women and an unborn baby still in its mother’s womb.
There had been 50 people in the congregation at the time.
Hamburg police chief Ralf Martin Meyer said the suspected shooter had a weapons license and legally owned a semi-automatic pistol.
Although he passed all the legal checks required to own the firearm, authorities received an anonymous report in Jan 2023 which suggested F may have an undiagnosed mental illness and should be investigated...My question is are YOU proud of this guy?
@@Jlis2025 to answer your question... am I proud of this guy who did all those atrocities.... Absolutely not!.
Such a brave lady, beautifully presented. Thank you xx
Gosh I'm terribly sorry that you experienced that. Just know that you are not alone.
I was baptized as a Jehovah's Witness when I was 16 as well I feel this video very very much oh hello welcome to disfellowship land too. I am proud to be a "worldly" person now but I am not normal by any means, I have a great difficulty with socializing and definitely have been affected by being raised a JW. Everyone I grew up with lost. How is it that I would want to go back when they totally deny your existence?
Hi RxTechLA,
Don't beat yourself up about thinking you'd want to go back, this is not your own thinking but the 'brainwashing' you endured for 16years. It's also the fact that the loss of everyone including a community is a 'death' and unfortunately, we need to grieve that death symbolically-real!
Stay strong and smiling like I see in your profile picture.
Hugs & Love.
I believe her because an elder who was living next door to us when I was growing up sexually abused myself, my two sisters and my sister in law and we were afraid to tell our mother because she sincerely believed in him, made him out to be God. Only a few years ago after my mother died and he left the neighborhood we spoke of it to our older brothers who were shocked to hear about this evil happening in our family home
Brave woman! My mate broke away from JW. Her mother didn’t kick her out of the house, she just pretended her daughter didn’t exist in the home Horrific
Lacie I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that. I was raised in the Jehovah's witnesses ever since I was 5. My mother started having a bible study with someone from the local congregation. So that meant no more holidays no birthdays. My father was furious since he was not a witness. Growing up JW is so hard , especially if you are attending public school. They didnt have home school late 60's early 70's. I was bullied every single day. People would tease me and say I must be Jewish. I was baptized at 16. Married at 17. Had my first child at 18. Since it was frowned upon to go to college, my husband and I made babies. The first year we were married he put his fist thru the wall. Used binoculars to look at the girl change her clothes across the street and when I was pregnant with our first born he cheated on me. And yes he was also a JW.
That's so terrible. May God give you freedom and joy. God bless you.
And let me guess he never got disfellowshipped
Very good articulated, I say this with the most empathy and respect.
always felt bad for this kid named Nigel at my primary school class that always had to leave the room when the tv set came in or any type of video was meant to be played in class :/ he was a nice funny kid and a really talented artist (around year 4-5 doing detailed faces and cartoon people) but then i came to realize that he was so good at drawing as that was all he was allowed to do at home in his free time :'3
its no different to my primary school ,children forced to say the lords prayer every morning in assembly ,its called brainwashing in case nobody gets it, i never even learnt the prayer because i could see through the lies luckily for me
I had classmates like that too but they were Plymouth Bretherens.
@@garlicandchilipreppers8533 no they are just human beings like you and me, the fact that people call them that doesnt really help
So many JW kids I knew back in the day including myself. Some of these kids had athletic talents that you wouldn't believe. Some could of went to the Olympics too compete. Our parents said no and we all missed out on so many opportunities. My mum was so worried about Armageddon coming, she pulled my brother out of his final year of schooling.🤦♂️🤦♂️ Had scholarships to collages and universities but we're not allowed to take them.
Almost couldn't finish, hearing her recount growing up in the organization was too close to home for me as someone who also grew up in the organization with a stepfather and grandfather who were elders. I'm going on 23 now and I can't help but ruminate on the years I've lost in my performance of participation in the religion to make my family happy, realizing only now how unacceptable their expectations placed on children is. I can only hope more people see these testimonials and understand the "Pristine and Clean Reputation" the organization places above all else, to the point of burying abuse cases so as not to "Bring reproach on Jehovah's name", is a shameful and hollow lie.
Yes everything you said is spot on to what I heard and saw growing up going to that organization. This story is so sad but what consoles me is that our God has seen everything and he knows what happened and pretty soon will bring justice.
So much control. Religion has a lot to answer for. A brain washing cult.
I was baptized at 12. Disfellowshipped at 14. The trauma of being shunned is phenomenally emmense. I'm 50 years old and still being shunned.
Have you ever considered shunning those who shun you? You can't meet new people? Come on...
@busybody1 I think you've missed the point. I've obviously met new people, married, had children and grandchildren. Surrounded by amazing friends. That doesn't change the pain and trauma of being forever shunned by the only parents I'll ever have at the age of 14. My siblings forever cut off... Compassion is not your strong suit.
@@blesseddc I think you've missed the point Missy.. they may have been your parents but they aren't anymore, cut your losses and move on or go around crying complaining for the rest of your life your choice. I have more compassion than your parents did, argue that.. bad things happen, get over it don't give me that trauma crap
All religions are as ridiculous as eachother. How on earth people believe those fairy tales is beyond me.
Facts
Hope...
You need Christ
@@jeryzyartel3695 I don't need a make believe man in the sky. In the very unlikely event it is true, I wouldn't even want any part of it. The bible permits slavery, cutting off hands, genocide and it says women should be stoned to death for sex before marriage. 99% of all women have sex before marriage. We're going to need a lot of stones. If you actually follow your religion then you'd have to be ok with stoning you sister if she isn't a virgin before here wedding.
@@snipedotgenius Comments are not facts. They are opinions.
I left 12 months ago. Disassociated myself from the cult. I was raised in a non Jehovah witness family on my dads side but my grandmother kept trying to convince me to join (mums mother) she and my cousin both picked the moment i was at my lowest at age 16. I was convinced i had found my tribe, that people now loved me due to trauma of bullied at school and abused at home. I was happy for once but it was short lived happiness. I noticed i could never fully accept what i was being fed but because i was in a cycle or coercion, love bombing and gaslighting they had me conditioned into being scared. I couldnt leave because if i did i would be shunned and left alone but if i stayed i would be mentally abused. I got bullied for being neurodiverse. I genuinely would hug people as they entered the hall because i was drawn to show warmth and love but a ministerial servant now elder grabbed my by the shirt and dragged me aside and told me off that i cant hug women. I had a elder say i was basically a burden for asking for accommodation as i was nearly homeless and had been to the psychiatric ward. I began to hurt myself even gave up but survived. My dad came in after me which he used that cult to hide behind. I noticed the teachings were off and things didnt sit right. I would complain but felt i wasnt allowed to ever question “gods representatives, nor do independent research unless it was from their website their watchtower and awakes etc oh and their bible. No critical thinking was allowed. If you dare question they will try to convince you your “conscience isn’t working, you’re on a bad course in life and scare you into thinking the devil is taking you away” Covid saved me. Because when covid hit we couldnt go to halls and for like a year i started to drift away further because i was neglected more and saw how they were being. To the point i got bored of watching the broadcasts or listening to their music. Lol i would fall asleep in the meeting and couldnt pay attention it was boring me. And my support worker convinced me to go to university to learn music becausw its my passion so i went met my amazing non jw partner. And ran away from the cult. It’s traumatised me to a point i am deeply wounded but i am surviving and feel sick happy. With how my life is now. But i believe being in that cult was one of the worst traumas i had its literally spiritual abuse. To the point of i dissociate, i shut down and get severe cptsd.
If your a jw im not open to a debate. I am not wicked for leaving nor warning people. As you call people like me apostates just because we speak up. If you’re thinking of going to Jehovahs witnesses i strongly encourage critical thinking dont settle for what they say. Compare with outside material. I wish i did that 10 years ago if only
I always felt sorry for their kids at school. What no Christmas presents? Seems the more cult-like the movement, the greater the likelihood of this sort of thing being hushed up, mind you abusive step-parents are probably endemic no matter the religion. Lacie's very brave and also a very attractive personality.
I honestly feel sorry for all these children born to parents who are in Jehovah's Witnesses... because they're basically losing A LOT of innocence in their childhood... forced to comply with doctrines and beliefs that holidays are wrong, birthdays are wrong, and you must be blindly obedient, whether you like it or not.
Being obedient DOES NOT equal good children. These children who were raised by Jehovah's Witnesses end up lacking necessary skills to manage their emotions, as well as critical thinking, and as a result, MUCH of their emotional needs were NEVER met, which can lead to more challenging behaviors and many problems as they grow older. 😬😬😬
I know people now in their 50s who grew up as Mormons. They seemed still very messed up from their upbringings and felt uneasy when people around them were talking about childhood.
Well, I'm not a fan of Christmas myself, it's a bizarre ritual.
I often view much of mainstream culture as cult-like. But that aside.
What bothers me more is the gaslighting at the hall, the mind games, the manipulation and the thought control.
There are billions who do not celibrate your iron age crap
@@gowdsake7103 there are billions of morons who cant spell 'celebrate'.
Thank you for speaking this. I'm a survivor. They have done irreparable damage to my family. These men are running a cult I the name of God. Scary and demonic work.
What an incredible women. Strong and articulate. Such strength in the face of a terrible situation. I don’t understand the JW religion (and I know there are examples of abuse across many faiths) but power seems to warp people and rules are used to hide truth and protect the abusers rather than victims … when it’s the victim who should be protected. Thanks for sharing Taboo. Thought provoking and powerful as ever.
Yes!
I heard this in the news today?
This man left the jehovah witness He killed by gunfire in church was ex jehovah witness
At least seven people have been killed and more have been seriously injured in a shooting in Germany. One or more people opened fire in a church in the northern city of Hamburg. Police rushed to the scene at 9pm amid unconfirmed reports of shooters on the run (Picture: AP)
Afte gaining entry to the building the suspect fled to the first floor, where he was pursued by officers before taking his own life.
Eight people died in the incident, including the attacker.
The victims were four men, two women and an unborn baby still in its mother’s womb.
There had been 50 people in the congregation at the time.
Hamburg police chief Ralf Martin Meyer said the suspected shooter had a weapons license and legally owned a semi-automatic pistol.
Although he passed all the legal checks required to own the firearm, authorities received an anonymous report in Jan 2023 which suggested F may have an undiagnosed mental illness and should be investigated...My question is are YOU proud of this guy?
Well done for speaking out against your abuser, and I'm so glad your mum believed you ❤️ wish you nothing but positivity for the future ❤️
I heard this in the news today?
This man left the jehovah witness He killed by gunfire in church was ex jehovah witness
At least seven people have been killed and more have been seriously injured in a shooting in Germany. One or more people opened fire in a church in the northern city of Hamburg. Police rushed to the scene at 9pm amid unconfirmed reports of shooters on the run (Picture: AP)
Afte gaining entry to the building the suspect fled to the first floor, where he was pursued by officers before taking his own life.
Eight people died in the incident, including the attacker.
The victims were four men, two women and an unborn baby still in its mother’s womb.
There had been 50 people in the congregation at the time.
Hamburg police chief Ralf Martin Meyer said the suspected shooter had a weapons license and legally owned a semi-automatic pistol.
Although he passed all the legal checks required to own the firearm, authorities received an anonymous report in Jan 2023 which suggested F may have an undiagnosed mental illness and should be investigated...My question is are YOU proud of this guy?
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm not a JW, but I know someone who decided to become one, I plan on sending this to her.
Thank you for sharing your story; it’s becoming way too familiar of the Elders/ men in the KH and sexual abuse is handled…. SMDH!!! Welcome to the real life, screw that “enemy of happiness” cult…
I heard this in the news today?
This man left the jehovah witness He killed by gunfire in church was ex jehovah witness
At least seven people have been killed and more have been seriously injured in a shooting in Germany. One or more people opened fire in a church in the northern city of Hamburg. Police rushed to the scene at 9pm amid unconfirmed reports of shooters on the run (Picture: AP)
Afte gaining entry to the building the suspect fled to the first floor, where he was pursued by officers before taking his own life.
Eight people died in the incident, including the attacker.
The victims were four men, two women and an unborn baby still in its mother’s womb.
There had been 50 people in the congregation at the time.
Hamburg police chief Ralf Martin Meyer said the suspected shooter had a weapons license and legally owned a semi-automatic pistol.
Although he passed all the legal checks required to own the firearm, authorities received an anonymous report in Jan 2023 which suggested F may have an undiagnosed mental illness and should be investigated...My question is are YOU proud of this guy?
@@Jlis2025 Why would anybody be “proud”?! What is wrong with you!?
Thank you so much Lacie for your bravery and strength to speak openly about it. I admire that you are able to do so - I have always felt like the JW aspect is something I can't speak to many about.
I grew up as a JW myself. My dad was never really there and it was my mom who struggled to raise 3 kids basically alone. I did not grow up as strict as her, but strict on other aspects.
As a young child - I found it extremely boring and I didn't understand a lot of what they said, as they spoke to the congregration as a whole. . . expecting the young ones to be able to take in what the adults had to say, as if that is what is.
I also saw my mom suffer at the hands of my dad, in numerous ways - including him cheating numerous times (from what I later learned) - and yet she was told by the brothers (another man) to be a good wife . . . per the bible scriptures. She was not allowed to ask for a divorce. . . that never made sense to me.
At the age of 16 I had questions about dating - you date in groups because 'things that should never happen could happen when you're alone'. However, I noticed that a guy I knew acted completely different when we were in a group vs him/me + his family. I questioned the Brothers because how can you truly get to know who you're saying you want to spend the rest of your life with - if you don't truly get to know them, per the rules in place. Needless to say how they answered didn't help at all - in fact it confused me more because it didn't answer my question at all! Instead it was examples of other kids who had decided to take a dip in the real world and would get end up getting beaten up and in the hospital or other REALLY BAD outcomes. How did this pertain to my question to them . . . it didn't. I was let down by the very ones I was told to trust, and I was very unimpressed as they really didn't care enough to even hear my question. From that point on, I stopped going to meetings because I no longer trusted the congregation or brothers to be of any help, as we were brought up and brain washed to believe.
My mom finally ended up divorcing my dad years later, but was kicked out. She was so brainwashed that she still tried to get back in and even went to meetings - even though she was completely ignored. So ignored that the supposed 'ever so Godlier than thou' brothers forgot to tell her that she was reinstated. After she herself finally lost all faith and trust in these Brothers, in God and religion in general, she was told about it. A little too late.
I will never understand how anything outside of their little box/"world" is bad - especially family members. I realize every family situation is different but family can be so very amazing, but JW's seem to need so much control over their ppl. They overlook things such as Lacie's experience, or my mom's experiences. The experiences of any others, including myself, have left scars on us that took YEARS to get past. There are a hand-ful of religions I consider a "cult", Jehovah Witnesses is one of them.
Thankfully, I have healed enough that I can go into any type of church without hating it. And seeing the religion of JW's from outside since then, I've realized that there's such a big and bright world beyond that box they've created. Although it has taken years to heal, I believe in God again and the endless possibilities of what is 'God', without going to a church and accepting what is told. It is based on what resonates with you, how that makes you feel instead. That pure joy and peace of mind is something I found outside of any church/Brother. I am more blessed to be away from JW than I ever was in.
Dude… …. I had always heard of these door going types but never saw one until I was in college… 2 of them came to my apartment one day and were asking me if I was Christian, believed in God, etc. i told them yeah I am Catholic … tbh, I was just trying to not be rude or cold or tell them to go away or anything… wasnt trying to get into any serious conversation, just figured I would make small talk and then kinda “alright, nice to meet you I gotta go!” And shut the door on them like thanks but no thanks without having to say it…. Holy moly… they never left me alone. They would come back every few months for almost 6 years (literally until I moved). They didn’t do anything bad or anything, they just would not take no for an answer even when I politely told them I am satisfied with my beliefs and not interested in your group… they would just come back, with smiles on their faces and just be all like “Oh sorry but we just were in the area and wanted to see if you were interested in these pamphlets…” and occasionally would tell me about their Temple which was like 45 min away which was weird and be like “drop by” … it got to the point i just wouldn’t answer the door or my live in gf would and just say he’s not here… and they always left pamphlets and literature… I looked at it. It was never anything cultish or whacky (which I kind of was hoping for for my amusement) it was just cookie cutter generic Christian messaging like Jesus loves you. BUT the freakiest part was literally 2 years into them coming every few months, so prob their 7th time coming to my place, I heard a knock and looked out the window and it was an asian woman (and it was always a black woman and a man of indeterminate race before) so I open and then the black woman just comes out from around the side of the building! It was like she was hiding to get me to open the door! Weird!! And the black woman was like “oh hi this is mei feng she doesn’t speak english but she is from china, I brought her to meet you because you speak Chinese.” WTF. Dude… I had made like 1 brief comment 2 years earlier the firstt time I met them just in small talk. I was in college so they were like “Oh what classes u taking?” Etc etc so I told them I was learning Chinese… and they not only remembered that passing comment two years later but had actually brought a chinese woman to me.. like seriously strange. It made me think they like take notes on people they talk to and had some file on me or something… that or just a great memory but in a sort of incessant type of way.. all so strange.
They clearly were very experienced doing this though. Like they never went “too far” … they wouldn’t show up every week but more like every 4 months. They never asked to come inside. Never tried to tell me that Catholicism is wrong or anything, or chastise me for living with a girl. They always were polite and friendly. Like I said their literature was all pretty inane and nothing that would scare people off.
And I’m just not the type of person to bluntly tell someone “I’m not interested please go away.” I would feel kind of bad lol. I kinda rely on people getting the message just from my body language and brevity… they were very persistent in a very seemingly calculated and careful way.
I spent two years as a missionary for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, (the church that the JW founder actually ripped off some of the doctrine from...then perverted said doctrines beyond recognition) and I always got so frustrated by people associating us with the JWs.
We are taught to be respectful of people's wishes to be left alone, and it's not uncommon for our missionaries to make notes of places or people that have expressed disinterest...so we can leave them alone.
Something needs to change with this CULT! An ex Jehovah’s Witness organisation needs to be made as many of us are “disfellowshipped” and have a bag of clothes and kicked out of the family home, there needs to be a homing foundation and education foundation for people leaving because the Jehovah’s Witness bubble is so tight, the real world is completely opposite to what we have been so used too and so hard and lonely to adjust too. I hope all who read this get the help you need and realise you are not alone, find the help don’t feel guilty, the phrase “apostates” isn’t a thing you have the right to an opinion or a choice and shouldn’t be emotionally manipulated to think otherwise. Thank you for speaking up in this video but there is so many other issues that are also so damaging, the mind control, the emotional manipulation, the sexism, the fear mongering, the child abuse that gets dealt with internally, please please please something change, the Leah remini documentary on JW’s is a good insight, I’m hoping the new Rebekah vardy documentary being made is also good. I wish everyone peace and happiness.
Sorry genius but Leah Remini’s documentary was on Scientology. If you are going to point fingers you ought to at least know what you are talking about. You clearly don’t.
Google it genius
i was also bought up as a jehovas witness and was at tipton congregation with my nan where cliff whiteley was an elder i knew him well he used to come round her house. Glad to hear shes on a better place now n hes in a worse one the nonse fairplay to her for speaking out
This isn't just a jehovas problem this is actually a worldwide problem in non religious groups too
And yet, the Jehovah's Witnesses say "we are the one true religion" while the Watchtower organisation & the governing body hiding thousands of CSA cases inside the organisation for decades and most Jehovah's Witnesses blindly ignore the CSA problems. This CULT is horrible, stop defending them.
Thank you Lacie for your brave voice. Your stories was so precise, even knowing others experience yours made me think again how insane these men are. They just love their positions over anything. My indoctrinated husband an elder, not CSA case but about higher education, when I beg him want our son to go college he told me if he allows our son to go for higher education he needs to step down ELDER. This is how controlled these men are! They actually love positions and the higher up leader’s rules😢