How are people not seeing that Kristina is to blame at least for 50% of the baby dying. She was told not to go to Ava. She knew how dangerous Ava could be, yet she chose to put herself and the baby in danger to confront Ava. Then she was going to try to take the child she had practically begged Molly to let her carry for her. She was also going to try to limit the actual father’s time with the baby. A baby he had just as much right too biologically as Kristina. Yes, Kristina has a right to be sad , but her pain is of her own making because she is the one that made the stupid choice that caused her to nearly die and that did kill the baby.
@@MitsukiSakura Ava and Kristina are equally to blame. Ava shouldn’t have provoked Kristina and Kristina shouldn’t have let it get to her. Now as for carrying the baby I agree she begged them to do it and they agreed so there again it’s 50/50 blame because Alexis warned them that something like this could happen. (Not the babies death but getting too attached). Kristina and Molly both have the right to grieve in their own way. But I lean more towards Kristina on the grief part because she carried the baby for almost 9 months and had that connection with it that Molly never got. I can’t imagine what that would feel like. Molly grieves because she can never have children and that’s what’s so sad about it too. In the end it’s devastating for all involved.
True, Molly and TJ didn't talk her into being a surrogate, she talked THEM into letting her be the surrogate. And after they agreed, she was going to go back on her word. It started out wanting to them a child and then it turned into wanting to give HERSELF a child. She started worrying just because Molly and TJ were having some problems and worried what would happen to the baby if they split up. She has to know that ALL couples have problems but they usually work them out and not by splitting up. In case, she's forgotten, their mother is not together with either of their fathers and TJ's parents are not together and they've all been doing fine.
@alexanderpytko5394 Exactly. She just wanted Molly and TJ to breakup so she has a reason to keep the baby , and at the same time she's making Blaze a mother even when she told her that she wasn't ready , because of her career. I remember that at the beginning Blaze did say that she wished the baby was theirs , but then she backtracked and remembered she had a career to think about.
Kristina, motherhood isn't just about being pregnant. Yes, carrying a child a tremendously powerful thing both physically and emotionally, but that's not motherhood. That's pregnancy and while it matters. It doesn't automatically make someone a mother and I need her to stop thinking that because she felt the baby inside her, she was her baby. Molly had dreams and plans for this child. Kristina's plan was to steal her from her parents. Kristina forget the reason she was pregnant.
@@SymbolOfPeace8 First all, don't insult me. You're literally insulting a real person over fictional characters. You don't know me. Secondly, I said what I said. Kristina was a surrogate and egg donor. She was NOT the baby's mother. She was pregnant for the specific purpose to give the baby to Molly and TJ to raise as their child. Motherhood and parenting don't begin and end with being pregnant or biology, if it did, there would be nothing more to do after the kid is born, and adoptive parents wouldn't have legal rights. Kristina promised to carry a baby for her sister to raise as her own. She didn't commit to raising a child.
I mean both Ric and Sonny were both fucked in the head in different ways. Although to my recollection Sonny never crossed the line with physical violence towards women. Maybe in their general vicinity when he was manic, however Ric did multiple times with multiple women including threatening sexual violence. He also gas lit a lot of people and was manipulative as hell. Seriously Molly has a temper as well it manifest as cold and clinical which reflects as judgemental and digging in if she thinks she's right. She always thinks she's the smartest person in the room. Frankly I honestly don't think Kristina would have kept the baby because once Molly told her she and TJ were working so hard and stressed because they were taking maturity leave and doing the nursery while prepping last minute for the baby on a full schedule, you saw her whole demeanor change and she had just talked to Alexis about these very things before bam served with a subpoena. Without the interruption I honestly believe Kristina would have brought up the fact that she was taking steps to protect the baby because she noticed the stress both her and TJ were under and was worried that if she signed the papers only TJ would have a say in the child and at the end of the day the little girl is a Davis first as far as Kristina is concerned. Kristina is a lot of things and while she has no problem hurting herself while she spirals and by proxy it's affectes her family the one thing she has never done in all the time we've known her it's physically knowingly betray her her siblings or parents for any reason. In fact Kristina's pattern of behavior has shown you that she's actually a Corinthos and a Cassadine when it comes to protecting her family and goes to extreme lengths overcompensating to protect her loved ones. It's actually why she's in the mess she's in now she was protecting a her and her sister's child from a threat she perceived (TJ) because she didn't have all the facts. Molly didn't want to talk about it everytine Kris brought up her concerns and when she'd go to Alexis for advice her Mom instead of sitting both of them down to mediate tried to stay out it to remain neutral. Unfortunately this led Kristina did what she always does jump to conclusions based on the perception of Molly and TJ's actions. Especially with both of them treating her kind of hostile and judgemental and combining that with pregnancy hormones 🤷🏾♀️. Those Davis girls are terrible at communication. I hope they can come back from this before to much damage is done because I honestly think Kristina is borderline Bipolar and lets not even get into whatever Cassadine defects is floating around in that gene pool. Like I said of all the kids Kristina has the most of the Fiery temper associated with being a Corinthos and a Cassadine, girl is actually winning considering.
Has Molly and Tj ever shift there focus from Kristina to the baby during her pregnancy? Did they make time to bond with the child while in the womb? Blaze has more bond with that child than Molly and Tj does.... all they were focused on is beating Kristina down and never once did they ask to feel the baby kicks.... Both of them will be sorry and I hope when blaze return she puts them in place where bonding is concern because she is more of a mom than Molly will ever be.... both blaze and Kristina knows what the baby likes and dislikes.... For me Tj and Molly don't deserve that baby because they know nothing about the baby and what happened was for the best to prevent and even greater disaster because Tj's mom would step in and use her powers being Mayor in favor of her son.
Molly and TJ are getting on my nerves crazy how she always throws the fact that Sonny is a Criminal in Kristina’s face like her own father Ric isn’t one cause if I recall Ric is quite the criminal himself (drugging Elizabeth, sexual assaulting Carly, holding several people at gun point the list literally goes on) they blame Kristina for this horrible accident then acts like she doesn’t have a right to grieve it’s so ungrateful regardless of if she was gonna keep the baby or not at least try to recognize the pain she’s in they should have listened to Alexis she said this was a bad idea but nooo everyone thought she was over reacting
@@MyaMorgan-rd9yg totally agree! Everyone keeps saying Kristina this and Kristina that. Well ya know what they are both allowed to grieve. I’m not picking one over the other because they both lost something they will never get back.
@@nycgal1118 right like I feel so bad for all of them because that’s a tremendous heartbreak but Molly & TJ are making it hard to feel bad for them they are looking for someone to blame and of course they choose Kristina the one person who wanted to help them TJ literally lately has had no remorse for Kristina he blames her more then he blames Ava!!! She wouldn’t have even been in Ava’s room if Ava hadn’t pulled her into her custody battle with Sonny I just wish they would have more compassion for her
@@MyaMorgan-rd9yg agreed!!! I’m sick and tired of seeing everyone want to blame kristina solely for this. I want to say well it takes two to tango and they all messed up! Alexis saw this a mile a way (the custody thing) and now that Molly knows what Kristina was going to do she will make her feel even worse. Everyone has a stir in this pot and they all need reality checks. Where they go from here? I have no clue.
The thing is Molly is in pain and pointing out her infertility was below the belt for Kristina. Kristina does shoulder part of the responsibility for Irene’s death. It may not have been intentional but that’s what happened. Molly just found out that Kristina was going to keep the baby and Alexis knew about it and did not tell her or. TJ. Trust has been broken and it might not be able to be repaired.You could tell from this episode how isolated Molly feels because Alexis and Sam will always chose Kristina above Molly. Good thing she has Ric.
@@nmathew21absolutely Molly’s whole family besides Ric was surrounding Kristina! People lash out in grief! Yes Kristina is going to be grieving but she practically begged to be the surrogate, then the egg donor, then convinced Molly they did not need any papers to insure her rights(even though Alexis suggested). They were sisters she could trust her. If they were going to use Kristina as a surrogate they should have used an egg donor!! It is fair to say they are all grieving in different ways but you are right Molly just found the papers saying Kristina planned to keep the baby and grant her and TJ visitation rights??!!! She is trying to bury the baby and not upset the funeral but has not even had time to process that much less tell TJ the baby’s father! If anything it feels except for TJ’s family they are not supporting Molly! Sonny, Alexis, even Sam were calling the baby Kristina’s. Kristina has always been treated like a fragile doll!
Someone please tell Molly that her father is ALSO a criminal. (Him keeping Carly prisoner while pregnant. Planning to kill her and steal Joss. Always sticks on my mind.) And, stop acting like Kristina doesn’t have a right to grieve. Unfortunately, you didn’t get the ending where Mollys the mom and Kris is the fun Auntie. It was her baby legally and biologically until the unfortunate end. I agree what Kris said about Molly never knowing what it feels like was uncalled for. But, look at everything she’s been through from the start. Now Mollys kicking off on her. Shhhhhiiiii I’d be done and not watch my filter either.
I think that Molly is going way too far with this whole baby incident because it was not her baby it was Kristina’s baby so Kristina has every reason to feel the way she feels. Also Molly has no right to throw Sunny up in Kristina’s face especially when Sonny is her Uncle and Kristina’s father. Molly needs to get a grip.
WOW! Thank you for posting the scenes. All I can is wow
@@taylorcannon7272 I know! So good today. We will see what happens now. Will they come back from this? I think so it just will take a very long time.
@@nycgal1118 I'm 😭😢 again..
I felt for Kristina until she said that Molly wouldnt know what it feels like. Performances were fantastic all round.
How are people not seeing that Kristina is to blame at least for 50% of the baby dying. She was told not to go to Ava. She knew how dangerous Ava could be, yet she chose to put herself and the baby in danger to confront Ava. Then she was going to try to take the child she had practically begged Molly to let her carry for her. She was also going to try to limit the actual father’s time with the baby. A baby he had just as much right too biologically as Kristina. Yes, Kristina has a right to be sad , but her pain is of her own making because she is the one that made the stupid choice that caused her to nearly die and that did kill the baby.
@@MitsukiSakura Ava and Kristina are equally to blame. Ava shouldn’t have provoked Kristina and Kristina shouldn’t have let it get to her. Now as for carrying the baby I agree she begged them to do it and they agreed so there again it’s 50/50 blame because Alexis warned them that something like this could happen. (Not the babies death but getting too attached). Kristina and Molly both have the right to grieve in their own way. But I lean more towards Kristina on the grief part because she carried the baby for almost 9 months and had that connection with it that Molly never got. I can’t imagine what that would feel like. Molly grieves because she can never have children and that’s what’s so sad about it too. In the end it’s devastating for all involved.
True, Molly and TJ didn't talk her into being a surrogate, she talked THEM into letting her be the surrogate. And after they agreed, she was going to go back on her word. It started out wanting to them a child and then it turned into wanting to give HERSELF a child. She started worrying just because Molly and TJ were having some problems and worried what would happen to the baby if they split up. She has to know that ALL couples have problems but they usually work them out and not by splitting up. In case, she's forgotten, their mother is not together with either of their fathers and TJ's parents are not together and they've all been doing fine.
@alexanderpytko5394
Exactly. She just wanted Molly and TJ to breakup so she has a reason to keep the baby , and at the same time she's making Blaze a mother even when she told her that she wasn't ready , because of her career. I remember that at the beginning Blaze did say that she wished the baby was theirs , but then she backtracked and remembered she had a career to think about.
I like how different the reactions are here and on Twitter. Twitter is primarily Team Molly.
@@KNightRider504 I know!!
Kristina, motherhood isn't just about being pregnant. Yes, carrying a child a tremendously powerful thing both physically and emotionally, but that's not motherhood. That's pregnancy and while it matters. It doesn't automatically make someone a mother and I need her to stop thinking that because she felt the baby inside her, she was her baby. Molly had dreams and plans for this child. Kristina's plan was to steal her from her parents. Kristina forget the reason she was pregnant.
That was Kristina’s biological daughter. Don’t be ignorant.
@@SymbolOfPeace8 First all, don't insult me. You're literally insulting a real person over fictional characters. You don't know me.
Secondly, I said what I said. Kristina was a surrogate and egg donor. She was NOT the baby's mother. She was pregnant for the specific purpose to give the baby to Molly and TJ to raise as their child.
Motherhood and parenting don't begin and end with being pregnant or biology, if it did, there would be nothing more to do after the kid is born, and adoptive parents wouldn't have legal rights.
Kristina promised to carry a baby for her sister to raise as her own. She didn't commit to raising a child.
Molly not wrong about Kristina
So no one is going to hug Kristina because she also lost the baby because the parents are really Tj and Kristina not Molly
I mean both Ric and Sonny were both fucked in the head in different ways. Although to my recollection Sonny never crossed the line with physical violence towards women. Maybe in their general vicinity when he was manic, however Ric did multiple times with multiple women including threatening sexual violence. He also gas lit a lot of people and was manipulative as hell.
Seriously Molly has a temper as well it manifest as cold and clinical which reflects as judgemental and digging in if she thinks she's right. She always thinks she's the smartest person in the room.
Frankly I honestly don't think Kristina would have kept the baby because once Molly told her she and TJ were working so hard and stressed because they were taking maturity leave and doing the nursery while prepping last minute for the baby on a full schedule, you saw her whole demeanor change and she had just talked to Alexis about these very things before bam served with a subpoena. Without the interruption I honestly believe Kristina would have brought up the fact that she was taking steps to protect the baby because she noticed the stress both her and TJ were under and was worried that if she signed the papers only TJ would have a say in the child and at the end of the day the little girl is a Davis first as far as Kristina is concerned. Kristina is a lot of things and while she has no problem hurting herself while she spirals and by proxy it's affectes her family the one thing she has never done in all the time we've known her it's physically knowingly betray her her siblings or parents for any reason. In fact Kristina's pattern of behavior has shown you that she's actually a Corinthos and a Cassadine when it comes to protecting her family and goes to extreme lengths overcompensating to protect her loved ones. It's actually why she's in the mess she's in now she was protecting a her and her sister's child from a threat she perceived (TJ) because she didn't have all the facts. Molly didn't want to talk about it everytine Kris brought up her concerns and when she'd go to Alexis for advice her Mom instead of sitting both of them down to mediate tried to stay out it to remain neutral. Unfortunately this led Kristina did what she always does jump to conclusions based on the perception of Molly and TJ's actions. Especially with both of them treating her kind of hostile and judgemental and combining that with pregnancy hormones 🤷🏾♀️. Those Davis girls are terrible at communication. I hope they can come back from this before to much damage is done because I honestly think Kristina is borderline Bipolar and lets not even get into whatever Cassadine defects is floating around in that gene pool. Like I said of all the kids Kristina has the most of the Fiery temper associated with being a Corinthos and a Cassadine, girl is actually winning considering.
@@SolGoddess13 you nailed it right on the coffin. Thanks for sharing!
@@SolGoddess13 I’m gonna share this on the main feed. You summed it up just right.
So tough to watch. And now the blame game will begin
What did Molly name Irene? She does say Irene in the end.
Has Molly and Tj ever shift there focus from Kristina to the baby during her pregnancy? Did they make time to bond with the child while in the womb? Blaze has more bond with that child than Molly and Tj does.... all they were focused on is beating Kristina down and never once did they ask to feel the baby kicks.... Both of them will be sorry and I hope when blaze return she puts them in place where bonding is concern because she is more of a mom than Molly will ever be.... both blaze and Kristina knows what the baby likes and dislikes.... For me Tj and Molly don't deserve that baby because they know nothing about the baby and what happened was for the best to prevent and even greater disaster because Tj's mom would step in and use her powers being Mayor in favor of her son.
@@Ren-t4o you make a valid point.
@@nycgal1118 That’s NOT a valid point!
@@kellymcfalls1458 I think it is. You don’t and that’s ok.
@@kellymcfalls1458 it definitely is
The fact they they are mad that Kristina was planning on taking the baby is a moot point. It doesn’t matter anymore
I agree, but the betrayal and all of the stuff that led up to this can tear a family apart.
It absolutely matters. It's about trust. How can they trust Kristina after this.
Wait what did she say? I had to rewind it a few times
Molly and TJ are getting on my nerves crazy how she always throws the fact that Sonny is a Criminal in Kristina’s face like her own father Ric isn’t one cause if I recall Ric is quite the criminal himself (drugging Elizabeth, sexual assaulting Carly, holding several people at gun point the list literally goes on) they blame Kristina for this horrible accident then acts like she doesn’t have a right to grieve it’s so ungrateful regardless of if she was gonna keep the baby or not at least try to recognize the pain she’s in they should have listened to Alexis she said this was a bad idea but nooo everyone thought she was over reacting
@@MyaMorgan-rd9yg totally agree! Everyone keeps saying Kristina this and Kristina that. Well ya know what they are both allowed to grieve. I’m not picking one over the other because they both lost something they will never get back.
@@nycgal1118 right like I feel so bad for all of them because that’s a tremendous heartbreak but Molly & TJ are making it hard to feel bad for them they are looking for someone to blame and of course they choose Kristina the one person who wanted to help them TJ literally lately has had no remorse for Kristina he blames her more then he blames Ava!!! She wouldn’t have even been in Ava’s room if Ava hadn’t pulled her into her custody battle with Sonny I just wish they would have more compassion for her
@@MyaMorgan-rd9yg agreed!!! I’m sick and tired of seeing everyone want to blame kristina solely for this. I want to say well it takes two to tango and they all messed up! Alexis saw this a mile a way (the custody thing) and now that Molly knows what Kristina was going to do she will make her feel even worse. Everyone has a stir in this pot and they all need reality checks. Where they go from here? I have no clue.
The thing is Molly is in pain and pointing out her infertility was below the belt for Kristina. Kristina does shoulder part of the responsibility for Irene’s death. It may not have been intentional but that’s what happened. Molly just found out that Kristina was going to keep the baby and Alexis knew about it and did not tell her or. TJ. Trust has been broken and it might not be able to be repaired.You could tell from this episode how isolated Molly feels because Alexis and Sam will always chose Kristina above Molly. Good thing she has Ric.
@@nmathew21absolutely Molly’s whole family besides Ric was surrounding Kristina! People lash out in grief! Yes Kristina is going to be grieving but she practically begged to be the surrogate, then the egg donor, then convinced Molly they did not need any papers to insure her rights(even though Alexis suggested). They were sisters she could trust her. If they were going to use Kristina as a surrogate they should have used an egg donor!! It is fair to say they are all grieving in different ways but you are right Molly just found the papers saying Kristina planned to keep the baby and grant her and TJ visitation rights??!!! She is trying to bury the baby and not upset the funeral but has not even had time to process that much less tell TJ the baby’s father! If anything it feels except for TJ’s family they are not supporting Molly! Sonny, Alexis, even Sam were calling the baby Kristina’s. Kristina has always been treated like a fragile doll!
Molly should of not been there to start trouble losing her sister
Get rid of Molly
what was the name Kristina named the baby
@@ashleyjeffords1275 Adela named after Kristina and Mollys grandmother.
@@nycgal1118 oh okay thank you
I wonder will Kristina join the drug game
Molly stop it
It's not Kristina's fault
And stop pointing things on sonny
Someone needs to tell Molly her Daddy is also a criminal. (Keeping Carley in a panic room to steal her baby and then kill her.) Among other things.
It kinda is
@@Sarcasm_Specialist😂😂😂 i loved that storyline. I miss those days.
That low ball to the heart Christina has a right too
Someone please tell Molly that her father is ALSO a criminal. (Him keeping Carly prisoner while pregnant. Planning to kill her and steal Joss. Always sticks on my mind.) And, stop acting like Kristina doesn’t have a right to grieve. Unfortunately, you didn’t get the ending where Mollys the mom and Kris is the fun Auntie. It was her baby legally and biologically until the unfortunate end. I agree what Kris said about Molly never knowing what it feels like was uncalled for. But, look at everything she’s been through from the start. Now Mollys kicking off on her. Shhhhhiiiii I’d be done and not watch my filter either.
Or was it Morgan? Because, psycho Claudia kidnapped Carley when she was pregnant with Joss.
@@Sarcasm_Specialist Ric Morgan and Claudia Joss
Ok is it wrong to like kristina baby name more? 😂 idk irene but i do know Adele
If they don't bring back Blaze. I am not watching no more Episodes.
I haven’t watched since she left! 😢
BYE
I think that Molly is going way too far with this whole baby incident because it was not her baby it was Kristina’s baby so Kristina has every reason to feel the way she feels. Also Molly has no right to throw Sunny up in Kristina’s face especially when Sonny is her Uncle and Kristina’s father. Molly needs to get a grip.
Kristina was supposed to be the surrogate, and the baby was supposed to be Molly’s.
@@Miss__Cowgirlyon paper that would have worked. Biology and humans aren’t that simple.
Think what Christina going
Kristina with a K
Ok she can be sad too
sad