Why I'm Quitting MMOs For Now
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- I will take a break from Full-Time MMO Content for now.
This is by far my favourite Gaming-Genre but they are in such a sad state.
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MMORPGs just aren't delivering anymore. World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy 14, OSRS and most other popular MMOs are old and stale. The new ones are all failing. I'm looking forward to Baldurs Gate 3 and Path of Exile 2 for now. And in the long term I hope that both Archeage 2 and the Riot MMO can finally start the new Generation of MMORPGs.
#MMO #MMORPG #neeko2lo
And one more thing:
I don't enjoy making negative videos. But negative videos are the only ones that can be honest at the moment.
Riot MMO, please save us all :(
another 30 min video to just say you quit and then stream lost ark next day xd
@@kkomchi251 I havent streamed Lost Ark in like 2 weeks though
Wont save u, owned by Tencent ^^
@@Neeko2lo can u check dark and darker when it comes out bro?
@@diegoskm maybe
I appreciate honest people like you man, it's so rare these days.
Thanks man
Good video Nokee, I agree with most of what you said
Thank you mister Heedun!
11:09 An MMO That Respects Your Time
Thanks for being a genuine person all the time ❤ , we need more ppl like that not just in gaming but in general
Thank you Tails!
The honest truth is that "the grind" is no longer considered acceptable by the community anymore. If you have to grind TOO much for something people hate it now. They expect to have "resets" to just get in play, and leave. Little to no long term progression.
Ashes of creation will release in 2030 but unreal engine 9 is out then they will port again😅
Finaly a streamer who is not sold out, you need some balls to say the truth that is there is no good content to work with palain and simple, good job bro keep up
Thank you!
It's all slop for pig gamers who eat it up.
Subscribed for the truth bombs! I keep looking for a MMO to play and find nothing so I've started going back purchasing good single player games I never played on sale.
Refreshing to see a content creator actually valuing their own and their audiences time.
Great video, I'm sick of people who spent thousands of hours in a game and are to emotionally invested trying to convince others that it's a good game.
Also the burger analogy is spot on, but the reality is that every game company today have the "do you guys not have phones" mentality. We are cash cows nothing else.
Thanks god. Dont come back please
Man I went to gw2 and I know why I hate other mmos so much
just to point out you can get best gear by doing raid , explore , crafting, arena and even 100 vs 100 vs 100 and when I say best gear those gears are for all so if you finished getting you legendary accessories they are for all the account so yeah I am so happy I went back
This video woke me up. I dropped all my items in bdo and uninstalled, and I’m moving on as well. I’m not joking I had pen bs mainhand and awakening but I dropped it all because you’re right. I’m tied to something that isn’t really good just because there’s nothing else and that’s completely wrong. Thanks for waking me up!!!
I respect it, thanks for watching!
did you regret it yet?
Very true. MMOs are losing their edge and honestly any advantage they used to have when games like Elden Ring and other multiplayer titles that are actually good and fun to play exist. With MMOs you get maybe get a great game at the core, but then rampant p2w, nonsense design decisions like endless boring dailies in Lost Ark that only exist to pressure you into spending money, grinds because they have to pad out the gameplay somehow as an MMO, all ruin the experience. Most of your time is spent doing chores rather than having fun and it's tiresome.
Thanks for being there to support all of us in our views as well. This is how you generate a true fan base - with authenticity. I'll always be there to check out what you are up to. Peace.
Thanks man, peace
TBH i think Content creators play these games to much they ruin it for themselves. idk i think when its your job to play games( even on days you might not feel like ) you tend to start to decline in happiness and enjoyment. remember when you had work/school/chores then what you did for enjoyment/free time was play a game. when your enjoyment hobby is unlimited and non stop i think it will dull no matter how amazing the game. Gl Neeko
Love the quin69 copium bag :)) so glorious and true !!
In the same boat and please let us know when you find the next game worth our time and energy!
Will do!
Maybe try Baldurs Gate 3 its different but i think it could be enyoable when it relases in september. Ha nevermind i watched it to the end u have already considered :D
Isnt it releasing august ?
Right miss red but at the end of it before it was start of august😢
@@siseroscicero Im reading 3rd of August
One of few streamers with legitimate integrity. Best stream to hang out in for always reasonable and down to earth takes
Thank you!
You have balls brother, I really liked your video, you say things that are totally real, like the fact that people have no standards, absolutely none, we can even take it to something tangible, on steam approximately 80% of people buy 5 games a year (I dare say that they probably don't play any of those games that they bought) and they spend their time playing the little free to play multiplayer game of the moment for thousands of hours until another game comes out and each one is worse than the last, and this generates that his perspective and his criteria are worth the same as a pile of shit, I don't know if you saw last year's game awards, many people nominated genshin impact as game of the year, brother it's crazy when I found it beyond ridiculousness it was the fact that stray got so far to the point of being nominated for the best indie game of that year with the indie gems that came out in 2022, a completely scripted game, boring in general... 0 game design.
And now speaking of mmos, bdo is the only one that I really liked, but the game is completely broken, it doesn't make any sense to play it, there is nothing wrong with giving things to the new player, but they reached such a point of facilitating the game that in two days you already have your equipment "tuvala" in pen and that can be transformed into tet boss equipment which allows you to access almost all the content of the game without any problem, apart from the fact that the areas with less ap give more silver than those with more ap, in centaurs that do not ask for anything, you can get a billion an hour and in most 250+ spots you get about 200 million, it is a game in which you grind to improve equipment that you are not going to use, Not even casual pvp to win spot now practically exists, people enter the marnis realm and the problem is over and nobody fights spot, which was quite exciting, all multiplayer games are meaningless lately and it's because people basically don't ask for anything , as long as it looks pretty and the gameplay is visually attractive and you press several buttons is enough.
Ye I agree, I don't know where this is supposed to go in the future. Especially MMOs have been on a downwards trend for so long. BDO could be so good if they adressed its actual issues.
good vid , especially Quin part :D
Thank you!
Haven't you learned from Throne and Liberty yet? Having high hopes on Riot's mmo when we barely know anything about it.
So many great points made. From the bottom of my heart I hope you find something or some way to enjoy it again. You're a passionate guy and you wear your heart on your sleeve, it can be a pretty rough ride if you arent detached and jaded. Wishing only the best on your journey and will be watching along the way 💜🐐
Thank you Laufie! Means a lot
The Biggest doomer are Stoopz and xKanon
Back to your roots bro. In my opinion you are a pvp player at heart. You could try out Eternal Return which just had it's Season 3 start. You could play Naraka Bladepoint which just went full F2P and had PS5 release. Baldur's Gate 3 also just released. Same as Remnant 2.What about Street Fighter 6? Go hit Master dude, what are you waiting for.
I want to play a mmorpg,but in 2023 there is nothing great :/
I think i’m just going to play some good old wine like Lotro and just enjoy the game with the comunity. Better than grinding for shit or pay 2 win i guess 😅
In regards to RMT-ing being socially accepted... I think it was more like resignation rather than people accepting it. Because people saw a lot of RMTers getting away with cheating, or getting some temporary bans and they will be back, retaining all of their stuff. I know guys that RMTed, got banned for like 3 months, and then they cam back and still have their full lv10 gems and other shit. Also, the in-game RMT system didn't help with people's perception of RMT either. Because IMO, I see no difference between the in-game RMT Bezos system and the RMT from Ugandan secret traders (bot farmers) other than the later selling gold 3-4 times cheaper.
mmorpgs used to be the genre with big open worlds, pvp, co-op roleplaying, social interaction 20 yrs ago etc but other genres like single player rpgs, arpgs, monster hunter and BRs caught up in game size and features that mimic what mmos did in the past. with how risky it is to make a mmorpg i dont think the genre will innovate in any meaningful way
I agree with you. so what if a lot of games come out like most are secondary garbage based in 99% on ideas that have already been. mmo games have reached the wall. they did it to themselves. wanted to eat the cake and have it too. slow development, but not too slow. possible to speed up for money. the game is supposed to consume your time and engage you but not too much because you have a job and a life so everything was done to get around it. microtransactions and mechanics that are supposed to make you addicted, not fun, but addictive. constantly playing on emotions and the feeling that if you don't play, you lose something. society will change and bend and everyone will play these dopamine games or mmo games will die and we will wait 10 years again for the next wave/mode.
The main problem is just one.... treat videogames for what they made for.... FUN ! If isnt fun to play. just quit . RL are not videgames. Play old mmos because is there where all mmos lover want to have fun. And all of us are growing so maybe there s a time to stop playing and maybe someday coming back
just be a variety streamer tbh nowadays its the same with almost every other game that has been released. Or will be released the Quality of all games are rlly bad. Some games getting released and pple have to pay the full price for it but at the same time it isnt a full game/early access. Or the game has end game issues like u have to wait months to get new end game content. At the end of the day just play whatever u enjoy and move from there. I kinda took a break from FPS/shooter games its literally the same. Like charging pple paying 60/70$ for a game which isnt fully done is a joke. But yeah u have this on basically every kinda game genre.
Anyone that was fooled by the Diablo 4 hype after the crap blizzard has released the past decade or so deserve to have such a piece of trash game. I could tell immediately it was just Diablo 3 all over again.
mortal online 2 is the eso we didnt deserve, the eso we wanted. check it out hahah. your problem is you been playing games like new world going mmos suck HAHAH runescape is better, albion online is better then new world ahaha.. guild wars 2 as old as it is , is still one of the best games out, eso copied that to a t. mortal online is what we all wanted out of eso lol..
Yeah, I undertand you. You fell in a pit where nothing can bring you happiness in video games, and that sucks because its a work to you as well.
My advice, pick something that doesnt bore you to death and use your free time to do something that brings you joy, like playing guitar or visiting new places or something...
Lol what? Pretty sure ppl have been saying doom and gloom stuffs abt mmo for ages. You didnt pay attention
Neeko be coming back in 2 years, he's gonna move to Japan , jacked, wife, 3 kids and will never play games again.
How is Albion Online?
didn't like it when I tried.
You slept on Mabinogi. One of the greatest games especially around that era.
This channel has became a ranting channel 😅
not wrong
Kinda saw this coming since stream times are really even short where in it was obvious that you didnt really enjoy the games anymore but that's alright maybe at some point you will be back and enjoy playing MMOs again. See ya soon Neeko!
Good luck bro, I have been quitting MMOS for like 10 years now :D
Play Path of Exil it changes every 3 months and you have new content
I have felt the same in recent times. Most MMORPG's out there are basically copy paste of one another, really the only two that have ever stand out for me were BDO and ArcheAge, everything else just feels like a WoW wannabee. If those are my options, i would just rather stick to WoW than starting a whole new MMORPG that is basically just a different skin. For years now most of these games have been all made on the same formula, one that worked quite well back in the day but honestly at this point it has gotten stale and most of us are looking for something completely new that would hold our attention for more than a few days to a month.
well said
the godliest doomer known , lets.fucking.GOOOOOOOOO
I would love to hear your opinions on the changes WoW has made for the content structure. I mean: Classic Cataclysm, Retail, Plunderstorm, and now MoP Remix. There's never been this much WoW before. I'm not trying to get you to come back, I would just like your thoughts on it. Subscribed btw.
So I think classic shouldve stopped at Wotlk and used that team to put more resources into classic + (which is season of discovery atm but I think it could be much better). Retail seems to be the same old legion 4.0 but I hope the new saga will change things up. Plunderstorm was much better than expected and got me to resub. I wish it was a proper gamemode that would get updated and stayed long term.
And I dont know much about the MoP remix stuff but if people enjoy it its definitely a good thing.
All in all I think WoW has definitely improved in the past couple of months and I hope that the lvl 60 phase of SoD will be the real classic + experience. (I have a lvl 50 shaman)
But as always I wish someone would come up with a completely fresh MMO that surpasses all the existing ones. And ty!
are u playing naraka then ? or mlbb, best game
B1 with the river bud thanks for your takes, whenever I hear bullshit about a mmo. I think what would neeko2lo say LuL ( my eyes stay low when I’m watchin’ my homie neeko2lo xD!!!)😂👌🏾
thanks haha
MMO's before world of warcraft brought their own innovation to the growing genre and WoW in a sense mastered it and brought a lot of advancement. After that, no MMO game has advanced the genre in any significant way.
True!
Gaming is a busniss its not too entertain anymore,
Times change with you or without you. In Not a fan of most of the stuff either but it is what it is
True
-Blue Protocol looks garbage.
-Wow has become a cash-grab no passion like back in the day.
-Lost Ark ruined by incompetent Devs not listening to players trying to milk us and waste our time.
-New World is dead.
-Elder Scrolls online is mid and becomes boring.
-BDO p2w PvP trash.
-Diablo 4 Blizzard title enough said.
I am definitely out also until hopefully Riots MMO can save this genre. Haven’t played FF tho but idk i feel kinda hesitant to try it.
Based
The problem i have with GW2 is that content runs out so quick for a mmo. Its so damn fun to play through the content but like u said it short lived unfortunately otherwise i would still play it.
@@ranjnijan3446 Its funny haw its seems like GW2's biggest problem is that there is not enough of it. I guess not monetizing aggressively enough or not spending half the development budget on advertisement or utilizing predatory psichological strategies to keep you grinding and spending like all the other games has its downsides. All those things that other MMOs are doing are earning them money and popularity, Gw2 has a much tighter budged and less of an online presence precisely bcz its not doing those bad things that ppl complain about.
every MMO = P2W, just play single player game.
Diablo IV just looks like a world of just chaos dungeons.
Yup
Reasons why ppl left 1 year ago...
Thanks for keeping it real
completely agree with everything you said... well said sir!
Thank you!
Maybe try street fighter 6, it's fun
Quit my ass still playing off stream
Btw i just made a video on how bad bdo is
Agreed 100%
Hey Neeko I think it's about time you made a video about Lost Ark Jump start that's happening on tuesday :)
"You will play on a seperate server forever so all fo your previous progress is pointless if you play on this server. Perfect server for new players, except you get put into endgame raiding on day one so you will have to learn the entire game and its systems in a day. Have fun guys"
@@Neeko2lo don't be so negative little bro , I bet 80% of the pop will be returning players with a splash of 20% new players probably. All in all i feel like this is the game's second chance for a lot of folks.
@@ofensatul even if we assume that theres a lot of new/returning players. What changed for them to stick around this time? 1 Guardian instead of 2?
Dude, join Hardcore Vanilla World of Warcraft ^^ Sword art online vibes
Already got my character to 60 in that. Maybe Ill play official
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True as fook mate and based
MMO takes wayyyy too much time. Too demanding and grindy. I wasted soo much time on Lost Ark to only feel bitter about it in the end. I play games that does not require commitment now a days. HOMM 3! Btw, the buzz haircut looks better on you
homm3 is based
@@Neeko2lo RTS games like Aoe 2 DE is fun too. Ive been playing that a lot lately. It would be cool to you try it out if you haven't.
You will never get the same experience as your 1st mmo you played. When people do something repeatedly we our brain doesnt release as much dopamine to endure that, specialy when its a game and this not affect your real life.
I agree with that but at the same time we haven't had a next generation MMO for years if not decades as well.
I think its both
I agree with you! (I will tell you what would pull me back and other hunded of milion people on mmo gaming)I would like to jump again in mmo when i can have a very high quality gaming experience mmo in VR and after that the next step is similiar with the anime SAO these two is some big big changes/reason i would jump back in gaming. I took it too far i know but this is the truth and i beliveve that we millennials and Gen Z (i barely steped on gen Z) live to experience this 😝 @@Neeko2lo
At last someone said it.
Try GrandChase bro
MMOs have been like this since 1996 and even before, the only difference is the internet, you will probably be waiting for a good MMO until 2100.
Man, its so funny to see haw ppl from other MMOs are being shitted on by the devs over and over again, and even if they do learn, they just cope. I guess I'll keep watching ppl get disappointed and sad that there is no good MMO and all the MMOs they invest their time and energy in, dont actually have any respect for their time so they end up wasting it. All this while Im actually enjoying what seems to be the only game left that respects its players and is not overly greedy. From my perspective, Gw2 has continued to become better and better, offering so much variety that its really impossible for me to get bored of it. And all this is bcz instead of doing what every other MMO did, by adding vertical progression and calling it content, gw2 added horizontal progression, which means they actually expanded the game mechanics, systems, combat features, game modes, QoL and so on (basically expanding WHAT your character can do and HAW, instead of giving it a bigger POWER NUMBER). All the content is this game feels handcrafted and made with actual passion (something you havent seen in a while by playing all those mainstream hype based cash grabs).
So yeah, even tho all games have flaws and gw2 has its fair share of them. I think having the devs actually respect your time and see them put passion in their game, prioritising content quality over profit is the most important thing when it comes to any game not just MMOs. At least some ppl are starting to wake up about all the greed happening in the MMO space, and the abusive psychological strategies that MMOs are using to keep their players grinding and spending, so I guess thats a good thing.
Bald
youre a real one
Honestly IMO ppl wont care much about p2w if the system around it arent that stingy, for example early days of lost ark. But smilegate make every other aspect of lost ark as toxic as possible with insane degree of RNG and time needed to grind, and AGS keep pushing contents so fast is the best combination at making a toxic game.
If upcomming mmorpg is not an action combat like black desert or new world its a pass for me... i dont care much in mouse clicking games, story amd etc. I just want solid, fun pvp mmo😂
If you want to fall in love with gaming again, play some single player ones, BG3 is a fine choice. The zelda game, elden ring, there's plenty to choose. MMOs are a dead dream now, feels good to have quit.
playing remnant 2 when it drops and street fighter. you buy the characters and if you suck you lose. try it out.
who?
Dont be worried about being "negative"! You are so right. Vanilla wow-KING. Games just arent good anymore.
bye bye doomer
no need to change. youtube is about selling content. people sell their soul to get subs and all .
most stuff is like watching an indepth ad anyway . i think you do great!. stay yourself and f the rest xD
Based. Took the words out of my mouth after having watched the force gaming video on MMO's myself.
For sure you have a complex understanding on gaming then the average user, a break is always good as well to get the full picture 💯
ICANT
Facts
I'm hyped for Remnant 2 atm, I only play mmo stuff with friends tbh, the actual mmos themselves tend to suck.
ash stay in ash, u cant create when its already turning to dust
Can't wait for Quin to react to this and triple the fuck down like always ICANT
Agree with you, Neeko. I don't know why it seems there's no spectrum between cult-like following and doomer.
Just recently quit Lost Ark myself, but I can't see any other MMO to come back to except maybe FFXIV (because of their very newbie -friendly community).
Also, there was a video of Kanon asking content creators to rate Diablo4, and I vaguely remember barely anyone rated it 7/10 or lower. Ask them now: do they seriously believe that with the gameplay and the recent patch of D4?
Ye I wonder what will happen to that game now. Maybe one day we will get a good mmo
Another month another i quit video. Cant wait for the next chapter!
Players' complacency with mediocrity is only half the issue. Devs are proud and arrogant as well and take feedback from their dedicated audience for granted. Case in point: D4 devs blocking people providing constructive, non-toxic criticism on Twitter. Can't wait to hear why we're all wrong during their next campfire chat this Friday :)
Time to play some Dota 2? :D
I do play that like once a year haha :D
bad vibes. video is not for me
Lmao
play oldschool runescape ;)
it's the best
ye neeko im following you since years alrdy because i think we are very like minded but clearly you have lost your mind completely recently and cant find any joy anymore, something good in overall meh games to enjoy xdd so yeah cya in 2 weeks probably in bdo xdd
No BDO for me anymore xD
Classic daily doomer rant about games 😂
love the mario kart soundtrack in the back xdd
I get your point that over time, the "consumers" normalize monetization in games but what exactly are you suggesting that the average gamer do in the face of someone who engages in p2w-ing in games like in Classic WoW or Lost Ark or BDO. It sounds like you want us to lynch them with negativity in order to counteract the natural progression of capitalism in video games (and every other part of society) which isn't a good alternative either. Do you genuinely believe Riot's MMO won't have monetization either?
I don't think there is a solution. Because as you said thats the natural progression atm.
I do think Riot MMO will be littered with cosmetic monetization but I doubt they will engage in P2W stuff.
i don't know why are you against rmt, fair rmt, without bots and hacks
There is no such a thing as fair RMT, if you can progress with IRL currency the game is worse every time.
@@Neeko2lo to get items which will be selled someone need to get them in game first, and just to fix this you need to remove trade from game completely, it's game fault that if someone after buying best items become unkillable
@@Otherwise_1 If the company itself sells power thats still RMT and makes people spend money to gain power without risk.
Real RMT is a risk because you can get banned for it. Which means very few people actually do it.
Its always the developers responsibility to moderate RMT and if they offer it themselves the game loses all integrity
@@Neeko2lo I mean buying items from players, not from the store