Nice done ! I would love to see a test how much worse signal gets when antenna is inside a foam plane, vs outside... vtx and rc receivers.. i haven't found any info on that anywhere.. :-)
Basically makes almost no difference inside foam or thin plastic, note how the antenna shield is plastic in most cases. Plywood not so great perhaps, inside a spaghetti jungle of other wiring not a good idea, carbon fiber terrible.
The 90 degree angled SMA/RP-SMA connectors have significant loss. Painless 360 tested them and found that if you need a 90 degree, the softer and more gradual the bend, the better for signal loss
I haven't seen the video but he was probably talking about the screw-in elbow adapters you can get, which add an extra four contact point dependencies. If that's not the case then I would check if he uploaded on April 1st or something :)
iforce2d ok. Thanks. No pricing though and probably can’t get them anymore unfortunately. I like simple and these fit the bill. I have Aomway Commander V1’s but think Receivers are starting to go bad on them so looking for something that’s not going to put me in bankruptcy. I would never spend more than $300 for any of these type goggles. Way over priced with the HDo or whenever they call them. It’s analog and I no these little LCD screens have become super cheap over the years and for life of me can’t see how fats hark charges $700 for analog goggles even if they are OLED still way ever priced for what it is. Just my opinion. Anyway thanks I’ll most likely go for the Green FS Atitude V4 which has diversity already installed. They kil me with selling goggles then you have to by your own receiver at another $180.
Another relaxing and informative vid there-thanks. When I lived in Scotland I used a Prodrone 7 turn Helical and it would get me 8kms + anytime . I still have it and use it here in NZ on my Headplays and even though its been knocked about over the years it's performance is still up there. You should try a Tommy D 16turn if you want to fly to Bruce's and back-Lol!
The 1.2 is probably the swr at the antennas perfect frequency, signal to noise is a reciever measurement and nothing to do with antennas. Another thing to note is that those right angle connectors suffer massive rf loss, you should avoid them at all costs, bending the coax sufferers no measurable loss!
@@norgtube cheap connectors will obviously be worse than better quality ones but it's an electrical fact that putting the signal through a right angle results in loss. All feedlines have a maximum curve radius specification and suffer significant loss beyond that. That curve radius is very tight and you can bend coax a lot without measurable loss but putting a right angle in brings instant massive attenuation.
Not legal here. Plus the point is to have at least some interference so we can see which antennas are doing better right? Would be useless if they all showed us a perfect picture, that's why I was saying maybe a 200mW vtx might have been better. 5.8GHz does a decent job at a few km distance anyway, look at Brett's recent video (link in description, the video with the AR wing).
Absolutely, with the old True-D or the Rapidfire I have twice the range of the nexwave one. (No real difference between TrueD and Rapidfire in terms of range, same RX modules propably)
Interesting. I've actually had a diversity module in my Banggood cart numerous times and then at the checkout screen I un-rationalize the purchase by thinking "is my current experience really so bad that it needs remedying...?" and so far the thrifty side of me has won out.
You seem to have a magic nexwave module then. They pretty much loose in every test what is going along with my personal experience (and I'm still using an old Realacc Diversity module with modified firmware from the guy who made the Achilles firmwares).
@@ZeroFPV Obviously my opinion is invalid with respect to your exhaustive testing of multiple modules and the regurgitation what the echo chamber deemed to be the correct collective opinion.
@@briankoch7041 I didn't say that I did exhaustive testing, only that most tests I've seen line up with my personal observations. Sure, if you'll only fly 50m around your head you won't notice a difference. If you fly 3km away and around your head you'll appreciate an module which switches between a narrow patch/helical and a wide Gloverleaf/Pagoda.
Where are all the sheep? All the pens are empty. I guess the tax payers' money well spent on the DSF project (digital sheep filter) by the NZ Ministry of Tourism. It works very well, indeed!!!
I love their antennas. Great quality and variety
The best antenna test i have seen so far!
I think 1.2 was the VSWR number. The closer it get to 1 the better it is. 1.2 was quite nice actually
Nice done ! I would love to see a test how much worse signal gets when antenna is inside a foam plane, vs outside... vtx and rc receivers.. i haven't found any info on that anywhere.. :-)
Basically makes almost no difference inside foam or thin plastic, note how the antenna shield is plastic in most cases. Plywood not so great perhaps, inside a spaghetti jungle of other wiring not a good idea, carbon fiber terrible.
The 90 degree angled SMA/RP-SMA connectors have significant loss. Painless 360 tested them and found that if you need a 90 degree, the softer and more gradual the bend, the better for signal loss
I haven't seen the video but he was probably talking about the screw-in elbow adapters you can get, which add an extra four contact point dependencies. If that's not the case then I would check if he uploaded on April 1st or something :)
What goggles are those I know altitude but what version.
Dominator SE
www.fatshark.com/product/fsv1065-dom-se-fpv-headset-goggles/
iforce2d ok. Thanks. No pricing though and probably can’t get them anymore unfortunately. I like simple and these fit the bill. I have Aomway Commander V1’s but think Receivers are starting to go bad on them so looking for something that’s not going to put me in bankruptcy. I would never spend more than $300 for any of these type goggles. Way over priced with the HDo or whenever they call them. It’s analog and I no these little LCD screens have become super cheap over the years and for life of me can’t see how fats hark charges $700 for analog goggles even if they are OLED still way ever priced for what it is. Just my opinion.
Anyway thanks I’ll most likely go for the Green FS Atitude V4 which has diversity already installed. They kil me with selling goggles then you have to by your own receiver at another $180.
Great testing and flying, dude! Really nice! 😊
"This is not an unboxing." LOL! I have my head down and left when flying also.
Great video, thanks for your work putting this together, Cheers!
Interesting, I use the long pagoda style antennas on my LR quads transmitters to get away from the electronics and carbon bodies.
Another relaxing and informative vid there-thanks. When I lived in Scotland I used a Prodrone 7 turn Helical and it would get me 8kms + anytime . I still have it and use it here in NZ on my Headplays and even though its been knocked about over the years it's performance is still up there. You should try a Tommy D 16turn if you want to fly to Bruce's and back-Lol!
My english poor. So antennas from prodrone nice tuned?
Cheers for the shout out......
that Crosshair seems to work well,
Price increase maybe our gst being adding in December
Still waiting on mine........
Afaik they're made to order so that's why it took long to ship (and why the vsvr matches)
I thought that might be the case, but if so then the website should not say "dispatched within 4 working days" etc.
The 1.2 is probably the swr at the antennas perfect frequency, signal to noise is a reciever measurement and nothing to do with antennas.
Another thing to note is that those right angle connectors suffer massive rf loss, you should avoid them at all costs, bending the coax sufferers no measurable loss!
The signal loss in angled SMA connectors is really, really brand-dependent. The chinesium ones are predictably awful.
@@norgtube cheap connectors will obviously be worse than better quality ones but it's an electrical fact that putting the signal through a right angle results in loss.
All feedlines have a maximum curve radius specification and suffer significant loss beyond that.
That curve radius is very tight and you can bend coax a lot without measurable loss but putting a right angle in brings instant massive attenuation.
Should have changed to use 1.2 mhz video transmitter, receiver n respective antenna for long distance flying
Not legal here. Plus the point is to have at least some interference so we can see which antennas are doing better right? Would be useless if they all showed us a perfect picture, that's why I was saying maybe a 200mW vtx might have been better. 5.8GHz does a decent job at a few km distance anyway, look at Brett's recent video (link in description, the video with the AR wing).
I have bought set of antennas from this company and their are great.
What camera are you using in that last bit of flight footage?
runcam2
@@iforce2d Same as what I use. Yours looks like it's got some image stabilisation or is it just that smooth a flight?
@@Mansare94 I smoothed it out a bit while editing, yes.
thanks Chris
Those nexwave modules stink in sensitivity compared to the new modules.
Absolutely, with the old True-D or the Rapidfire I have twice the range of the nexwave one. (No real difference between TrueD and Rapidfire in terms of range, same RX modules propably)
Its an un-sogging with a wet box mate !
Wait... Do you live in Japan or Newzeland?
New Zealand, now.
👏👏👏
The nexwave module has outperformed every diversity I've bought except the rapid fire. You may be displeased after an upgrade as i was multiple times.
Interesting. I've actually had a diversity module in my Banggood cart numerous times and then at the checkout screen I un-rationalize the purchase by thinking "is my current experience really so bad that it needs remedying...?" and so far the thrifty side of me has won out.
Lol. Maybe I should give it a try... Have replaced it as soon as I got the goggles...
You seem to have a magic nexwave module then. They pretty much loose in every test what is going along with my personal experience (and I'm still using an old Realacc Diversity module with modified firmware from the guy who made the Achilles firmwares).
@@ZeroFPV Obviously my opinion is invalid with respect to your exhaustive testing of multiple modules and the regurgitation what the echo chamber deemed to be the correct collective opinion.
@@briankoch7041
I didn't say that I did exhaustive testing, only that most tests I've seen line up with my personal observations.
Sure, if you'll only fly 50m around your head you won't notice a difference. If you fly 3km away and around your head you'll appreciate an module which switches between a narrow patch/helical and a wide Gloverleaf/Pagoda.
Interesting test
Thanks for sharing :-)
Dude, get the diversity. Even the cheapest eachine one is great.
Where are all the sheep? All the pens are empty. I guess the tax payers' money well spent on the DSF project (digital sheep filter) by the NZ Ministry of Tourism. It works very well, indeed!!!
The pens are only for putting livestock (beef cattle here) on and off the truck.