as much as i may not be the biggest fan of doublelift but what he's been through in terms of TSM and Regi and his brother etc my mans been through the worst and is still at the top.. inspirational
Bro just appreciate the man's passion, his love for the game, his competitiveness, his dedication and hard work. That is all what LCS needed. To grind to glory which only a few like Doublelift do like train 16hrs a day. Most just go for the money bro. That makes him a legend of LCS. Respect!
@@ryanmackie6936 That`s why I added "technically". Also it just shows, how amazing Doublelifts longevity was. Most Season 1 pros disapeared before Season 4. A few exceptions like Mithy or Dyrus made it through Season 7. Doublelift still competed in Season 13. That is insane.
The thing about this is that it truly feel like DL wants to say this and do this, I don't doubt there is some PR putting in to this to make it smoother or at the very least Leena had some input into this. But this feels genuine and resonated with me, it calls back to when I start watching league from S4. All those memories and moments inevitably comes to an end, but he is still the same kid/man. The fame, wealth and Leena didn't tainted him like some other guys.
tbh im always korean team supporter ever since, but this guy whenever i saw vid and highlights of him trash talking and being competitive are like really a big hype for me, we all got to move on with life, best wishes to him.
Man i got really depressed listening to double, but then dom reminded me that someone always has it worse. Because dom's homies all got cut and he had to live with piglet
Disagree that imports didn’t work at all, at least at the top end. Our best international results, making semis with C9 and beating the defending world champs at MSI with TL, were carried by imports. There are a lot of imports that just come here to retire, but also a decent chunk that came to top teams with a commitment to win. And even recently, basically all the top teams have top imports? TL had 3 (4 earlier in the year), C9 had 4, NRG had 2. If NRG, a team with a bare majority NA players, counts as an “exception” that’s kinda proving the point. It’s possible for motivated imports to have elevated the region competitively while being bad for the LCS long-term (in terms of competition, finances, and viewership)
@@John.Titor.2000 funny how TL with xmithie the year before were completely irrelevant internationally. Yeah I’m sure Corejj (MVP in Spring) and Jensen beating Rookie had nothing to do with their success. Delusion
People say that frequently but it prob happens just as it does in groups. NA maybe gets a good lead in one of the series and then they make a mistake in mid to late game and the other team just ends the game cleanly.
dl and dom should meet up and solve their problems. i think they had a discussion about some misunderstood situation. just move on and make a podcast. you guys are my favorite league personalities.
There isn't some misunderstanding. Leena does't like IWD and his takes about her. He's criticized their relationship and their involvement with TSM/Regi.
Man i think people forget that 2014 TSM with Dyrus Amazing Bjerg Wild and Lustboy, Like im convinced that there was only 2 teams better then them at that worlds in Samsung White and Royal Club, if they didnt choke that tiebreaker in groups aganist royal and had to face White in quarters that might of been the run for NA to atleast make World Finals
@@Jon14141 I mean doubelift kinda delusional and doesn't do research / remembers a lot of things wrong and isn't humble to correct himself. Don't blame dom for not extending an olive branch
@@Jon14141 oh my bad I was meant to put an “I” on the subject. From what I’ve heard in the past all the takes that have been wrong double doesn’t really concede he’s wrong. Whereas dom happily accepts if he’s wrong which is what I like.
Doublelift is one of the best lCS players, ever, but what I took from this is that "they won't over pay me to phone it in for half his games anymore." So he's going to stream.
my fave part of this was the financial sacrifice moving from streaming to going back to playing professionally, anyone else remember months ago the doublelift streams where he was trying hard to convince viewers that streamers don't make much money or just me?
The first "retirement/hiatus" hes referring to isnt the "spring split doesnt matter" split. Its 2017 spring hes referring to. After the Crown viktor incident, he was scarred so bad he couldnt play for a split, because he low key singlehandedly fucked that teams worlds run
really wonder what offers he got. Did Fly make an offer? Feels like if he was on FLY that team could actually make worlds fs. I'm guessing he feels C9, NRG and FLY are the only good teams and C9/NRG both have solid bot options relative to LCS.
yknow im like rewatching this for the 2nd time and listening to DL be appreciative of all his fans was like, truly heartwarming. Then I remembered that poki calls her fans that dont wanna buy fucking 28$ cookies broke boys and makes fun of them.
8:17 The best team that NA has ever had was the CLG (7:04) which Doublelift left to TSM from. They were insane at worlds and then the team just disintegrated, like every time we have a good team, people start bargaining with players and it goes to shit immediately. The same thing happened to G2 after they won MSI. The team just disintegrated and then the new team was shit. If Faker and Guma left T1 after their first regional win, T1 would suck too. They did suck without Faker this year.
I love DL but I don't get the I'm 30 thiung, I'm 34 and a musician my reflexes are crisp and I,ve seen 70yo musicians play piano like they had 15 you can keep your finger/brain reflexes, If you belive you don't have what it takes it's just because you convinced yourself you can't, drop the mental chains... but also beign 34 I totally understand financial security
I don't think they're on the greatest terms are they? Historically they never seem to agree publically, though they have never directly addressed one another nor have they shown animosity. I'm sure Dom respects him, to a degree, but he's made a lot of money out of actively making fun of him, regardless of it being his plays or his takes. I'm sure that Doublelift has certain reservations about having a monkey blast you publicly every week.
I have never been a doublelift fan, but this is a very honest and objective evaluation of his career. My advice would be to learn from his priority setting instead of laughing about it.
Bringing new talent didnt work because the orgs dint change mentality. The system is damaged. All the imports said it and keep saying it. America doesnt want to change, its not willing to change. That is the problem
The reality is that there has never been a worlds format robust enough to call making groups an accomplishment. You either are so good that there wasn't a chance you could lose and the tournament shows it or you have spaghetti like DRX winning. No team from NA even scratched that level.
I think Doublelift is still chasing the high of that Lucian Quadra kill in mid lane and he can’t get back to it Also I’ll stop clowning him if he apologizes to Gabi
I love that small budgets are the reason why he cant win worlds when NA has had the most insane salaries for almost the entirety of LoL esports history. What horseshit, this dude is right that streaming is way more lucrative for him, but just be honest about why you dont want to play anymore lmao
Bad take. If the only way NA was competitive was baiting top talent with high salaries, then it stands to reason that the region is screwed with lower salaries for the immediate future. NA needs a renaissance but that will take time, time Doublelift doesn't really have at this point in his life.
@ericleclair1765 NA was literally always screwed and never came close to accomplishing anything. What he's really saying is LCS doesn't pay anymore and that's why he's not playing. If it did pay a shit ton like in the past, he'd definitely still be playing.
@@roachdoggjr4648 Idk, I guess I just read it more as "if they were screwed with money, they're definitely screwed without money," so if the goalposts are moving even farther away, it makes sense for him to focus on something that's actually lucrative at least.
@@roachdoggjr4648that’s….not what was said at all. Dl hate goes crazy here. The truth of the matter is that lcs spends big on ONLY salaries and imports. The money he was claiming was lacking was for literally every other aspect of the scene. And it’s demonstrably true. Na blows money to stay caught up barely but spends nothing cultivating the actual region, which forces more spending to stay kept up.
He proved his lcs caliber and the money ain't there. It's sad that this is what we consider a great carrier. Uzi played two years made it two worlds twice bang Ruler gala. Double lift carrier is trash compared to the greats.
"the first time doublelift ever smoked weed in his entire life is with me, that's the influence that i had in the league community"
So fckin based by Dom XD
Huge flex
based
He ruined our greatest player ever!!!! /s
Certified Banger Dom Quote
as much as i may not be the biggest fan of doublelift but what he's been through in terms of TSM and Regi and his brother etc my mans been through the worst and is still at the top.. inspirational
wow just found out about his brother and parents
Why did DL retire AGAIN? Lmao.
Bro just appreciate the man's passion, his love for the game, his competitiveness, his dedication and hard work. That is all what LCS needed. To grind to glory which only a few like Doublelift do like train 16hrs a day. Most just go for the money bro. That makes him a legend of LCS. Respect!
GUYS don't forget what happened to his family!!! Please, knowing that makes his message even more impactful
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@@TeriiTeri Just look it up, it's pretty tragic.
Dl's brother attacked his parents leading to the tragic passing away of their mother @@TeriiTeri
@@ginpotion2412 his brother under his mother?
skipped to a random time "doublelift never made it out of group his entire career" (no fake)
He technically did, since he finished 4th in "Worlds Season 1" with Epik Gamer.
@@PassivesAbseits no one counts szn 1 worlds
@@ryanmackie6936 That`s why I added "technically". Also it just shows, how amazing Doublelifts longevity was. Most Season 1 pros disapeared before Season 4. A few exceptions like Mithy or Dyrus made it through Season 7. Doublelift still competed in Season 13. That is insane.
@@PassivesAbseits That's true damn
The thing about this is that it truly feel like DL wants to say this and do this, I don't doubt there is some PR putting in to this to make it smoother or at the very least Leena had some input into this. But this feels genuine and resonated with me, it calls back to when I start watching league from S4. All those memories and moments inevitably comes to an end, but he is still the same kid/man. The fame, wealth and Leena didn't tainted him like some other guys.
tbh im always korean team supporter ever since, but this guy whenever i saw vid and highlights of him trash talking and being competitive are like really a big hype for me, we all got to move on with life, best wishes to him.
2016 should have actually made it out they might have done "something" 2016 defnintely best NA team ever
It was a good team, but it wasn't better than C9 2018 definitely
@@IvanRampitheir opponents were much better than C9 2018.
I think the team liquid team that made finals of MSI was better
@@podefunder whose?
They could have get into finals
Man i got really depressed listening to double, but then dom reminded me that someone always has it worse. Because dom's homies all got cut and he had to live with piglet
Dom is the nate diaz of league Kekw
DL was basically a top 2 maaaybe top 3 ADC in LCS this past year.
That's how trash the LCS is
Yea, spring when they had berj holding down mid DL played really good bot lane for sure.
That's kinda crazy if you think abt it
You should have kids Dom. 30 isn't that young too start a family. You'll want to be able to keep up with them and your grandkids too.
Cant tell if its a copypasta joke or not
You're not wrong, by the time he's in his forties they'll be teenagers and he'll able somewhat able to keep up
@@EmenussGOamazingsomewhat? 40 is young
@@OMAR-vk9pi yeah, it's unironically a perfect age to be a parent
20:40 DL really thanked the hate watchers.
Based
he knows they are the same people shittiing on Reginald
Disagree that imports didn’t work at all, at least at the top end. Our best international results, making semis with C9 and beating the defending world champs at MSI with TL, were carried by imports. There are a lot of imports that just come here to retire, but also a decent chunk that came to top teams with a commitment to win. And even recently, basically all the top teams have top imports? TL had 3 (4 earlier in the year), C9 had 4, NRG had 2. If NRG, a team with a bare majority NA players, counts as an “exception” that’s kinda proving the point. It’s possible for motivated imports to have elevated the region competitively while being bad for the LCS long-term (in terms of competition, finances, and viewership)
No one cares what you think though?
@@RattusNorvegicuz yet you replied
@@podefunder and that implies I care ?
TL was carried by xmithie that year lol stop coping.
@@John.Titor.2000 funny how TL with xmithie the year before were completely irrelevant internationally. Yeah I’m sure Corejj (MVP in Spring) and Jensen beating Rookie had nothing to do with their success. Delusion
I'm so glad I'm not the only person that thinks our best shot at a Worlds title was 2016. If only we didn't get the group of death...
People say that frequently but it prob happens just as it does in groups. NA maybe gets a good lead in one of the series and then they make a mistake in mid to late game and the other team just ends the game cleanly.
Daddy doublelift confirmed
20:05 This is the spicy dom I miss watching play solo queue.
That one joint is why he walked into Crown's Viktor smh
dl and dom should meet up and solve their problems. i think they had a discussion about some misunderstood situation. just move on and make a podcast. you guys are my favorite league personalities.
IWD dislikes Leena more than DL
There isn't some misunderstanding. Leena does't like IWD and his takes about her. He's criticized their relationship and their involvement with TSM/Regi.
@@AcuteAnglhad doubelift has his girl’s back which he should. Some things you just leave be imo
Incoming reddit hate thread for Dom. "Dom got Doublelift high in 2013 and that is why NA league sucks today"
Man i think people forget that 2014 TSM with Dyrus Amazing Bjerg Wild and Lustboy, Like im convinced that there was only 2 teams better then them at that worlds in Samsung White and Royal Club, if they didnt choke that tiebreaker in groups aganist royal and had to face White in quarters that might of been the run for NA to atleast make World Finals
Great video... I hope DL and Dom make up and talk it out. These two are biggest NA personalities still relevant on streaming about League
Any news on that btw?
@@VacillantPoizn Doesn't seem like it
@@Jon14141 I mean doubelift kinda delusional and doesn't do research / remembers a lot of things wrong and isn't humble to correct himself. Don't blame dom for not extending an olive branch
@@VacillantPoizn I haven't blamed anyone. Just haven't seen any news on the subject..
@@Jon14141 oh my bad I was meant to put an “I” on the subject. From what I’ve heard in the past all the takes that have been wrong double doesn’t really concede he’s wrong. Whereas dom happily accepts if he’s wrong which is what I like.
Yes! 2016 TSM was the best chance for NA. Too bad someone walked into Crown’s Viktor Ult…
I miss the streams when Dom would jam Curren$y . 2017 vibes
Truth on that 2016 TSM.
doublelift joins team sack
Wrong 2013 C9 was the best team NA has ever had
They were pretty good
Doublelift is one of the best lCS players, ever, but what I took from this is that "they won't over pay me to phone it in for half his games anymore." So he's going to stream.
Dom has been way less toxic lately I’m surprised he said anything nice lol
17:13 I’m thinking of a completely different Lucian play he did
Scariest thing is that doublelift might be the best player there was and that will ever be for LCS.
Tells you how much LCS's level is shit
I think peak Bjerg was even better than DL but they were both awesome.
wow man hating is really good for your mental health and physical well-being i think. you definitely won't see your heart palpate at 35 man!
@@FizzLeeaguemaybe, DL is for sure the best player NA ever produced
my fave part of this was the financial sacrifice moving from streaming to going back to playing professionally, anyone else remember months ago the doublelift streams where he was trying hard to convince viewers that streamers don't make much money or just me?
The first "retirement/hiatus" hes referring to isnt the "spring split doesnt matter" split. Its 2017 spring hes referring to. After the Crown viktor incident, he was scarred so bad he couldnt play for a split, because he low key singlehandedly fucked that teams worlds run
I think Dom is actually really sad to see it. That's why he got so sentimental and self-reflective. He had to joke about it to cope with it.
Dom giving Doublelift weed contributed to faker winning his 4th worlds
Too much weed for u
@@RattusNorvegicuz :O
Ready to meme this video next year
really wonder what offers he got. Did Fly make an offer? Feels like if he was on FLY that team could actually make worlds fs. I'm guessing he feels C9, NRG and FLY are the only good teams and C9/NRG both have solid bot options relative to LCS.
yknow im like rewatching this for the 2nd time and listening to DL be appreciative of all his fans was like, truly heartwarming. Then I remembered that poki calls her fans that dont wanna buy fucking 28$ cookies broke boys and makes fun of them.
Damn indeed..
>turns on stream
>ruins player union negotiations
>retires
Forgot about that damn
8:17 The best team that NA has ever had was the CLG (7:04) which Doublelift left to TSM from. They were insane at worlds and then the team just disintegrated, like every time we have a good team, people start bargaining with players and it goes to shit immediately. The same thing happened to G2 after they won MSI. The team just disintegrated and then the new team was shit. If Faker and Guma left T1 after their first regional win, T1 would suck too. They did suck without Faker this year.
Yes that g2 squad that won MSI disintegrated instantly. 1,5 year after that win
@@wertyswar :O
I love DL but I don't get the I'm 30 thiung, I'm 34 and a musician my reflexes are crisp and I,ve seen 70yo musicians play piano like they had 15 you can keep your finger/brain reflexes, If you belive you don't have what it takes it's just because you convinced yourself you can't, drop the mental chains... but also beign 34 I totally understand financial security
Hey Dom will there be any furture collaboration with DL? Be down to see you both in a vidoe
I don't think they're on the greatest terms are they? Historically they never seem to agree publically, though they have never directly addressed one another nor have they shown animosity.
I'm sure Dom respects him, to a degree, but he's made a lot of money out of actively making fun of him, regardless of it being his plays or his takes. I'm sure that Doublelift has certain reservations about having a monkey blast you publicly every week.
@@juancarloshaquetbriones4252 Damn
looking back on it, QTpie was way ahead of the curve. felt he did enough in esports, went to streaming, made bank, never looked back
Indeed man
last chance NA had was 2012 lol
say that again dom 8:15
14:36 hahahaha
damn you're 25 at the end of 2015, you age fast what are you like 42 now?
:O
id work 10 years as a pro if i can cop myself a hot girlfriend out of my league like leena
"id lift weights for ten years if i could get a hot girlfriend" bro no one is stopping you. good luck mate
Nice, i won't see his face ever again
Except on his stream
I have never been a doublelift fan, but this is a very honest and objective evaluation of his career. My advice would be to learn from his priority setting instead of laughing about it.
Thank God he's gone
Bringing new talent didnt work because the orgs dint change mentality. The system is damaged. All the imports said it and keep saying it. America doesnt want to change, its not willing to change. That is the problem
The reality is that there has never been a worlds format robust enough to call making groups an accomplishment. You either are so good that there wasn't a chance you could lose and the tournament shows it or you have spaghetti like DRX winning. No team from NA even scratched that level.
Spaghetti?
@@joshuamanlapaz9380 Spaghetti yeah
Never forget that brTT > Doublelift
Just want to say IWD, is a jackass IRL, but on that note the best shot NA had was S1 or those C9 teams
About fookin time, old man steps down.
I wanted to see DL get eliminated in worlds groups again :(
your life must be incredibly sad and bitter, I hope you get well soon :(
@@LordTenma It's neither, I just love watching DL get humble after shit talking.
@@evanjacob8463 bro is stuck fighting ghost form 2016 we all know your life is shit if all u do is cheer for others down fall
Real
What about screwing over TL, TSM 0-6 worlds, and 100Fails????
Finally
I think Doublelift is still chasing the high of that Lucian Quadra kill in mid lane and he can’t get back to it
Also I’ll stop clowning him if he apologizes to Gabi
pretty sure he has worked it out privately considering Gabi and Leena have hung out after. but i agree pretty bad incident gabbi did deserve better
“I love the community” - Proceeds to ban you from his chat for almost every thing you say 😂
His girlfriend starting an OF is a valid reason to stay collecting bread as a streamer
Wait she does? Oh no...
@@dingleberry4234 whatever you do do not google for it and get it all for free
I love that small budgets are the reason why he cant win worlds when NA has had the most insane salaries for almost the entirety of LoL esports history. What horseshit, this dude is right that streaming is way more lucrative for him, but just be honest about why you dont want to play anymore lmao
Bad take. If the only way NA was competitive was baiting top talent with high salaries, then it stands to reason that the region is screwed with lower salaries for the immediate future. NA needs a renaissance but that will take time, time Doublelift doesn't really have at this point in his life.
@ericleclair1765 NA was literally always screwed and never came close to accomplishing anything. What he's really saying is LCS doesn't pay anymore and that's why he's not playing. If it did pay a shit ton like in the past, he'd definitely still be playing.
@@roachdoggjr4648 Idk, I guess I just read it more as "if they were screwed with money, they're definitely screwed without money," so if the goalposts are moving even farther away, it makes sense for him to focus on something that's actually lucrative at least.
@@roachdoggjr4648that’s….not what was said at all. Dl hate goes crazy here. The truth of the matter is that lcs spends big on ONLY salaries and imports. The money he was claiming was lacking was for literally every other aspect of the scene. And it’s demonstrably true. Na blows money to stay caught up barely but spends nothing cultivating the actual region, which forces more spending to stay kept up.
@SH1NK1R01 "stay caught up" they never were even close whatsoever, they can't stay caught up when they never have
Imma be honest never cared for doublelift, he's always been an ok and decent in what he competes in
"ok and decent" The single best player NA has ever seen. Lmfao. Absolute nonsense..
@@BucsFanO22 fr has this mf even watched LCS in his life
what a stupid statement lmao. he's the GOAT NA-Player by like miles.
He proved his lcs caliber and the money ain't there. It's sad that this is what we consider a great carrier. Uzi played two years made it two worlds twice bang Ruler gala. Double lift carrier is trash compared to the greats.
gah damn the trash smells especially bad today
Can you rewrite this in actual English please
Time to go back to school buddy!
Good riddance
I would want to retire too with a dog team like last season
Doublelift is so overrated as a adc. He was never even close to achieve anything at worlds.
Dom not thinking 33 is considered getting old is concerning.
It’s not
guessing you're in your 30's as well? LOL@@OMAR-vk9pi