Nreal air. The rokid max was announced shortly after I got my nreal air so I was bummed for a while. I don't regret getting the air now simply because it looks more discreet. Please do a comparison on the battery usage when 120hz is enabled on rokid max too. I'm under the impression that 120hz would probably double the battery drain too.
Nreal Air … or Xreal Air as they are called now (after a dispute with Unreal) Not only did they change their name today. They also released the Xreal Beam. A device that brings 3Dof head tracking to any device and the ability to stream wireless from Iphone, Android, Mac, windows and Steam Deck without a cable or dongle.
I received my Rokid Max AR glasses yesterday. I have been working to get them optimized for my vision. Overall, I am very impressed and plan to use them for screen mirroring of my PC and game consoles. Yesterday, I played a PS4 game for several hours and while it takes a bit of getting used to, eventually, I almost got to the immersion that I get using the Quest 2 in games. The release set has ventilation holes to let out warm air at the eyebrow and it does keep the rest of the glasses pretty cool but it is another thing to get used to. I like the diopter adjustments very much but until I put on a set of glasses with astigmatism correction, the image was too blurry except for the center. Now, it is almost edge to edge sharp but it looks odd to wear two sets of glasses. I know that I can get custom made lenses for the Rokid Max but they are expensive so I'll put up with this hack for a while. Overall, I have high hopes for these glasses and can't wait for the 3DOF software for PC. That would be awesome.
@@MackieStingray2040 They do get somewhat warm but not as much as a Quest 2. I am comfortable wearing them for hours at a time. As for longevity, I do not know if they have mechanisms to preserve OLED screen health like OLED TVs do.
@@vlesmeries watch everything with mark warrren and active focusing. It took about 2 to 3 weeks before I knew something was working, but ciliary muscle started relaxing and things would clear up. Started with license plates and mailbox numbers and gradually farther away things....but its a slow process. Have to spend 2hrs a day ideally outside working on it. 1 year and improvement is about 1 diopter.
I have the Nreal Air over 6 months now and I love them, for watching videos and playing games, also they are easy to carry and connect instantly. Got the Red magic adaptor for charging and mirroring on the same time. Can wait for the windows update.
I've been doing searches for weeks looking for ANYONE to compare them. Of course Cas and Chary have things covered! I have the Nreal...oops, sorry, XREAL AIR glasses and I'm looking forward to seeing what the BEAM is at AWE. Are you attending?
Your editing is glass smooth and the timing of transitions is soothing. Beautifully done. Also, this answers a big question I had, as I find these devices to sport a very attractive use case.
I actually purchased both to test and will be keeping the Rokid Max. Out of the box, even with the less than optimal Rokid Hub (US) release, the Max works with more of my devices and the 3d SBS switch is a massive boon to watching and playing 3d content in Side-by-side mode. As you stated in the review, the clarity of the max is noticable compared to the nReal. Additionally, as someone with a wider head, I found the rokid max, with their spring arms and softer pressure, to be far more comfortable to wear for extended periods of time. I tend to watch my shows and play my games with subtitles enabled by default, I found the max to be legible 100% of the time, while I found the nreal air to only work well with fairly large text. I do wish the max had shipped with more than one nose piece, however, that is a minor issue in the grand scheme of things! Thanks for putting this video (and others) together. Keep up the good work and helping drive the VR/AR/XR economy!
i’m on the fence about which one love your small review i’m more a apple user watch phone ipad max book but i do have a steam deck and all consoles what would you pick if you weren’t a samsung user ?
@@sharpiesharpie8356 I actually received the Rokid Max while still holding an xreal (now) air. I find the rokid max to be a lot more comfortable and work with more devices overall. I ended up picking up a powered HDMI -> USB C(DP) adapter for my desktop as well so now the working list of devices is: Steam Deck, USB-C iphone, ipad pro, windows desktop (as another monitor on-demand) and the n. switch. device wise, the nreal does just about everything except the windows PC the same. I find the arms on the rokid to be far more comfortable than the nreal which are a bit to sharp and dig in at the temples for me -- I have a wide head. Hope that helps!
hey ! really hard to find people like you that tried both ! i have a bit of astigmathy (cyl -1) and i m afraid to see sides of the screen blurry, do i ll go for a a lense subscription. that said, exept the dial adjuster and the comfort that you mention is there for you a clear winner in term of display quality etc ? if yes why ? thanks for helping the community with your feedback
I owned both and found the color on the Rokid to be way too warm for my taste. I really couldn’t stand it. Also the edge blur on the Rokid was an actual hindrance with the larger screen vs a minor annoyance on the xreal with the slightly smaller screen. Now that xreal can do 120hz and be paired with the beam, it’s the clear winner in my opinion (unless you need to diopter adjustments). Thanks so much for the great video!
Is the diopter just for prescription? I have prescription for my eyes but I always wear contacts so probably wouldn't need that. If that's the case, would you recommend xreal?
Think I’m going to put the Rokid on my radar for Black Friday. I wear glasses so the option to dial in my prescription makes the choice pretty simple. Thanks for the review though, the video’s very well put together and answered any questions I could’ve thought of.
I got the nReal Air (by the way, they are called "xReal" as of today, I think because of a lawsuit...) about 6 months ago. They are actually great when used as a tiny portable monitor. They work well with the Steam Deck, and I do occasionally watch 3D movies on them. I love that they can already work with Apple computers and will soon work with Windows, but I don't think I will use that very often, much like the phone app. Sure, it's fun and impressive and feels futuristic to put a bunch of windows around you and pretend you live in the future. But it's not really productive or useful. So: awesome as a portable monitor for gaming and movies. But not really AR, that 3DOF tracking is more of a gimmick.
@@ddemons4730 You have to buy the adapter extra, it's not included in the box. Though by now, I would probably get the new "XREAL Beam" instead, since it's way more flexible.
I might have gotten the Rokid had I watched your video last week (so I am now a bit fearful because of the blurred edges especially subtitles and the 120hz differences), but I am also interested in experimenting with the prescription glasses and the greater software and multiple device features that the Xreal that I just ordered. Half of my large-screen video consumption has subtitles (Korean Drama etc.) and I actually multitask with subtitles in many of the youtubes I monitor. We shall soon see, wish I could play with both, may end up switching.
NReals arms adjust with a loud snapping for each increment. My advice is adjust once and once only and when they are unconnected as one lens stopped functioning when I was adjusting them.
TBH, I'm going to wait a generation or two for the technology to mature a bit further. I just saw the Apple Vision Pro, and while that thing is stupid expensive (Like $3500 US?), it does seem to set the bar appropriately high. In a few years or so, I hope to see something of similar level of quality to that (visual fidelity, gesture & voice controls, and overall software support and stability), cheaper (let's be real, we don't need the Eye Vision gimmick do we? It's an interesting feature but no doubt is an expensive addition), and of course targeted towards Windows/Android. Basically, I'd like to see something lean more in the VR, but provide high quality passthrough like the Apple Vision apparently has. I know some VR headsets, especially high end ones, have some great features, but we need something smaller and lighter if we're going to use it regularly in day to day life. Battery life is also a big factor.
Thanks for the detailed usage video, great job explaining and showing the difference. One thing I would change is your definition of ‘AR’. Augmented Reality, which can be anything from heads-up displays in jet fighters to as recent as more expensive automobiles. Even audio only devices could fit this definition. Google Glass comes to mind for this category. XR would be a better definition of displays that uses sensors to determine position and track the user in 3D space. The problem is Apple & Google needed to differentiate their tech that allows 3D objects to appear to be in your “living room” via your phone’s screen from VR’s usage of a phones screen as was the case with Google Cardboard type tech. In fact XREAL and Rokid could be considered partial XR since they do provide 3DOF via their builtin IMU (Inertial Measurement Units) allowing rotational information of the wearers head to be integrated into the position of the projected image. This gives the user the perception that the image is ‘anchored’ in one place. 6DOF type XR devices would be products like MS Hololens and MagicLeap. In fact NReal did actually make a 6DOF that I believe was called the NREAL Pro, but it was much more expensive and due to it relying on stereo image based SLAM (Simultaneous Localization and Mapping) versus laser patterned or TOF based depth sensors and letting the phone do most of the processing, made tracking & anchoring less than ideal and more important was power hungry, not to mention a heavier & bulkier unit. One could add 6DOF by incorporating an external sensor like Occipital’s Structure Sensor, which I had tested & developed around in another product back in 2017-18 (see videos on my channel). What is interesting is how the VR market has also hijacked the term, by adding stereo color cameras and then integrating the dual video feed with the normal stereo VR screens to create a ‘Mixed Reality’ image (which I feel ‘MR’ is a better acronym for this type of device. In fact the Apple Vision Pro, is really a very high resolution VR HMD with 6K dual color video cameras, and dual TOF laser depth sensing.
Hi, could you check the minimum IPD distance at the Rokid Max please? I cannot find this value. I also would like to know the performance with a PC, is there some input lag or other issues? Thank you in advance! Nice videos, I love to watch it. Kind regards Chris
Rokid Service send me for the AIR 57,5 -69,5 mm but in the software it is only 60mm ajustable as minimum. For the MAX there write me 55-70 mm but i would like to have a response from a people who check it at the device because the value for the AIR there send to me was wrong. Is somebody out there who can check it please? Thanks in advance!
@@courtneyricherson2728 It is very good! I don't regret it at all. It's so perfect for media consomption at bed lol. Don't expect any AR from it. It'll just be a screen attached to your eyesight. But that doesn't bother me. The main downside I find is that it's too bright, even at minimum, so it's a bit annoying to use them in full darkness.
I want to use as a monitor and watching movies. But I only have a laptop with HDMI. I am going to have to sus out if I can use a converter with the Max. Thanks for your review, and the comments of viewers. The most informative and clear I have found.
Rokid for me - for two reasons: - I wear regular glasses, meaning I'd need to add the cost of prescription lenses with the Nreal - I would use it mainly for portable gaming, meaning I care less about the software support and care more about the refresh rate
Im legally blind and need the screen close, is the screens u see in rookid at a fixed distance or can i get the mirrored image closer or is it always and the 6 meter distance?
I am using my new pair of Rokid Max glasses on a laptop where the screen appears to be about the same size as a 32"" monitor at arms length away. It does not resize so when I look into the room, it just appears larger vs the room. I am visually challenged also and bought the glasses to help me use the PC. I am able to see better with these. Text is clear and sharp. However, I still have to peek around the glasses to orient my hands to type. The passthrough of the room depends on light levels so darker rooms make a better screen but harder to see the keyboard. I'll probably use the light blocker and up the room lighting for PC.
I want a device to play RockBand and see my electronic drum kit through the screen. Is it possible to extend screen and make the image more opaque so that i can see through it ?
I started out with the Nreal Air, at first I didn't like them because the bottom of the screen would be cut off.. then I discovered you could adjust the arms to angle the glasses(that helped tremendously), I picked up the Rokid Max because I wanted to adjust for my nearsighted eyes... which worked well, however I ran into the same issue where the bottom of the screen was cut off for me(must be the angle of my nose).. but the Rokid DOES NOT have an option to adjust the arms, so ended up returning them.
Really... 🤔 Great to know ..thanks for sharing that important fact... 🙌 I don't have a TV so I'm looking for something like this to watch Netflix UA-cam and use some of my apps in the biggest format.... I was leaning towards the rokid because I heard the mini LED displays we're a lot better.... But .... That's just on paper.... Did you find any big difference in picture quality between the both models...? Thanks 👍
@@m2n900 actual picture quality not really, the main thing ROKID has that's a big win in my book is the dial adjusters to help with those that are near sighted. If the ROKID had angle adjustments on the arms then it would've been the "clear" winner for me :D
@@m2n900 hey ! really hard to find people like you that tried both ! i have a bit of astigathy (cyl -1) and i m afraid to see sides of the screen blurry, do i ll go for a a lense subscription. that said, exept the dial adjuster is there for you a clear winner ? if yes why ? thanks for helping the community with your feedback
Thank you for pointing out that Rokid Max is VERY LIMITED in terms of the hardware that is compatible with it. I am unable to use my Rokid Max on my Lenovo Ideapad3, Samsung phone A32 5G, my Amazon Fire 10 HD Plus or my Chromebook. I was able to install the Rokid AR on my phone only but still it was not working. My Lenovo Ideapad3 recognized Rokid Max but still unable to use it. There are no instructions or videos to help new users. All the products they have are promotional, misleading and not instructional. We need help to be able to use the product or we would have no use for it and will have to return it. Any thoughts on this?
if your devices do not have display options in the usb/c port, there will be no picture.... just check your specs. No glasses are wrong about that. But cheaper devices are, because they are not equipped with that.
I am visually impaired and have a question about the screen. 215" at 6 m sounds good but can one get closer than that by zoomning or "walking" toeards the screen? Thanx for interedting material! Greetings from Sweden and Stefan
I would love to use this to place and pin multiple virtual desktops (external monitors) while working with laptop (Linux/Mac/Windows/ChromeOS/etc.). Based on multiple reviews this doesn't sound to be ready.
Thanks for the comparison! Can I ask if you are going to do work on your laptop and using iPhone 15 for media content. Will you be choosing rokid max because of the better text reading?
im looking to purchase the nreelair glasses to play my steam deck and watch tv in my truck. is it pretty much plug and play, whats the battery life like and have you tried the nreel beam with the glasses
Other than airplane rides, I'm not too sure what purpose to use these over a regular tv, unless family really takes up one tv. I feel like I can switch multi screens on a laptop with a swipe of my fingers, so that doesn't matter so much to me personally.
I stay in a lot of hotels for my job. A lot of the TV's are small with no Netflix capabilities. Watching movies and TV series with these is better than using my phone or tablet. This is like having a portable home theater that you can store in a backpack.
Did you try opening a WebXR or WebVR scene inside the web browser? Can you navigate through the stage in a 3D environment? Can you use both glasses to project 3D objects/scenes in real space?
I wish I could get some expert honest advice about these smart glasses.I have bought the cables adapters beams and none of that works.I returned the xreal glasses,I couldn't get anything to work.
I purchased the Rokid Max. I will be receiving it Tuesday. Right now I am in a Rehabilitation home so I will be using it to play games and watch movies. I have allot of movies in UHD I want to watch with the 120 refresh rate. I will have to play with the 3d also.
Hey why don't you use VR headset ... I think they already are doing everything you are saying and it looks a cheaper solution.... however can you use your glasses when it' s really dark? Thanks for the video
Nice video! Could you please see if either AR glasses can zoom the image in for those of us with extremely poor vision (accessability zoom features). When I mirror my iPhone to the TV, the zoom feature works on the phone but it does not zoom on the TV.
Great review, thank you! Could you say something about the input latency when gaming with Rokid Max, by any chance? I'd like to get them as my main display for PS5, but latency is a huge concern. I'm worried it may be pretty high, especially when using a Type C to HDMI adapter. What's the name of that kitten of yours? It sounds quite interesting.
XReal gift doesn't connect to my laptop (no USBC). Special cable from Amazon with USBA/DisplayPort at one end and USBC at the other hasn't come yet. Mirroring my Android works well. One question... the Nebula software agreement seems to grant unnecessary and concerning rights to the vendor. Can you take a look and offer an opinion?
I have the nreal air and mainly use it for screen mirror on my phone and playing with my Xbox but I'm having issues logging into my UA-cam account with the nreal nebula app, it says I can't use unsupported browsers, if anyone knows a work around for this issue I would appreciate the help
My xreal air is coming today. I'm really on the fence on if i made the right choice between this and the rokid max. I'm tempted to buy the rokid just to compare. The only reasons the xreal appear to be the better option, is how discrete it looks, the active community around it, and slightly better software. The rokid looks more polished, material and design wise, eventhough it sits funny on the face. It also marginally outperforms the xreal, specs wise. I will likely upgrade when the next wave of these devices are released, so i think xreals are good enough in the interim.
@@courtneyricherson2728 So far, its been a nice to have, but don't find myself using it a lot at home. When I do travel, I use it as a distraction to pass the time in the airport, or on the flight. Its also good for watching a movie at the hotel. Maybe its because I'm used to watching shows on my television when I'm at home, I haven't really given it a chance as an alternative display. I do find the cable, and slight bulkiness of the glasses, discomforting, which is probably why I still use it in such limited, niche ways.
Nice video, thank you!! From purely a "movie watching / TV series from NAS on the couch" standpoint, which could be better? One of these "smartglasses" or a Quest 3 (Q2 maybe?)? I understand that the Q3 is a complete standalone VR headset with you can do lot's of other things a well, but still my question is valid. Imho for movies, these glasses can be maybe a better option (waaaaay lighter, I can lie down to bed, nothing is on may back of the head), but when it comes to costs, these are simply too overpriced, seeing that what else can a Q3 do, and maybe in even better quality (okay OLED is better than LCD, that is for sure). So for movies: smart AR glasses, or VR headset?
Nice... I wish they hurry up and send my Rokid Max... I ordered about 2 weeks ago.. My reason for buying them over the others were because I can charge while using them.. Can you comment on the bottom of the screen being cut at all? I was hearing that from some people... or it doesn't fill the bottom of the screen..
I see there are little prismas inside the (big) glasses. Couldn't they make this device much smaller by just using the prismas and leave out the glasses?
@@CasandChary thank you for your reply/help.... I don't have a TV... So I'm looking to get something to watch UA-cam and Netflix bigger!! ...playing some games and using some apps.... I read and seen some videos of each model, but you're the first to compared them side by side.... 🙌 Is the pictures quality much higher on the Rokid I assume because it has next get mini oled diaplays... But.... Does it REALLY make a big difference in the real use? .... Did you noticed a bid difference in quality?.... Will appreciate it your advice..... Greatest video 🙌
I have both now and the Rokid Max's are a big step up in image quality but also the 120hz mode which is fantastic for gaming. Pair it with the Rog Ally (both120hz) for a brilliant portable gaming experience .
Can I use this glass on google map while im driving? Can you see through the app while using it? Hope someone can answer me this as i want to use this while im driving.
I have the Nreal air. It's cool but it isn't where I would like. The software is okay but it's not my favorite. I wish you could use your android apps with head tracking but you can't. When I use it with the Steam deck the lack of head tracking is annoying and I forget about the screen size while gaming. Not worth the price to me.
Is this allowed on the airplane? Never flown long distance and understand not having the phone on during take off but this seems perfect for flying overseas.
If you put your phone in airplane mode it’s allowed, your downloaded videos and games are still playable. Or don’t use it on take off for safety reasons 👀
Thank you. That is what i wanted to read. Although i have still a Note 10. Probably upgrading to the S24 next year. Want to watch a movie while sitting. But also want to use it for multi monitor setup with my pc. Could you tell a bit more about the quality of the virtual monitors ? Is it sharp and crisp like looking at a real monitor. I am afraid that it will be a great dissapointment.
The new xreal beam comes out next month and is now compatible with all devices and has its own independent 5000mah battery pack/controller for about 450$
I really don’t get why designers still include the nose cutout for the AR glasses…they tick out an inch away from the face so have a nose cut out just looks silly…unless it’s meant for toucan Sam. If glasses are going to be that far out, then it’s not glasses anymore so it shouldn’t take on the literal form.
Bought both. Returned both. Air is not designed for large heads. Temple length to short. Unadjustable. Digs into head. Perfect eyes only. Prescription lens brings costs (at 100+ ) way up. 1080p OK. Needs 4k. Looks great MAx. Diopter eye adjuster big plus. Almost kept product. Fits big heads. Minus. Poor support. 1080p. Looks stupid in public. If you take the pluses of both products and made 1 product with 4k. They would sell millions.
I have the Nreal air, but the android app is beyond shocking. I have a Samsung S23 Ultra flagship phone and the AR just crashes, It's good for flying abroad though, through DEX. I can watch movies and mirror my phone. AR is just not ready yet without a lot of software development
What's your pick after hearing this?
Based off this video Nreal seems more ideal to me (despite the shakey picture) since it supports more apps and comes with the HDMI attachment.
tfw i've been watching this channel for a 1+ years and just now noticed that you girls are a couple 🤡
The nreal look alot more like regular glasees thats the main reason
Nreal air. The rokid max was announced shortly after I got my nreal air so I was bummed for a while. I don't regret getting the air now simply because it looks more discreet.
Please do a comparison on the battery usage when 120hz is enabled on rokid max too. I'm under the impression that 120hz would probably double the battery drain too.
I have a light prescription so the Rokid is the obvious choice.
Nreal Air … or Xreal Air as they are called now (after a dispute with Unreal)
Not only did they change their name today. They also released the Xreal Beam. A device that brings 3Dof head tracking to any device and the ability to stream wireless from Iphone, Android, Mac, windows and Steam Deck without a cable or dongle.
yess bro im preordering it asap like the second my check hits, that moneys leaving, tears of the kingdoms gonna be so good
and it doesnt work for any content with DRM, such as netflix or prime, and in the cases it might work, its with seriously lowered resolution.
I received my Rokid Max AR glasses yesterday. I have been working to get them optimized for my vision. Overall, I am very impressed and plan to use them for screen mirroring of my PC and game consoles. Yesterday, I played a PS4 game for several hours and while it takes a bit of getting used to, eventually, I almost got to the immersion that I get using the Quest 2 in games. The release set has ventilation holes to let out warm air at the eyebrow and it does keep the rest of the glasses pretty cool but it is another thing to get used to. I like the diopter adjustments very much but until I put on a set of glasses with astigmatism correction, the image was too blurry except for the center. Now, it is almost edge to edge sharp but it looks odd to wear two sets of glasses. I know that I can get custom made lenses for the Rokid Max but they are expensive so I'll put up with this hack for a while.
Overall, I have high hopes for these glasses and can't wait for the 3DOF software for PC. That would be awesome.
Does your Rokid Max glasses get warm/hot'ish? I'm hoping it won't affect the glasses longevity
@@MackieStingray2040 They do get somewhat warm but not as much as a Quest 2. I am comfortable wearing them for hours at a time. As for longevity, I do not know if they have mechanisms to preserve OLED screen health like OLED TVs do.
is a 3DOF software coming to pc?
@@Reyeston007 Apparently not
Built in diopter of the Rokid was the deciding factor for me.
Yeah same here. Can't wait to get home and start using this
That is a sick featureas I keep improving my nearsightedness
@@danhle1032 how do you improve your eyesight?
@@vlesmeries watch everything with mark warrren and active focusing. It took about 2 to 3 weeks before I knew something was working, but ciliary muscle started relaxing and things would clear up. Started with license plates and mailbox numbers and gradually farther away things....but its a slow process. Have to spend 2hrs a day ideally outside working on it. 1 year and improvement is about 1 diopter.
@@danhle1032 thank you. I'm willing to try anything.
I have the Nreal Air over 6 months now and I love them, for watching videos and playing games, also they are easy to carry and connect instantly. Got the Red magic adaptor for charging and mirroring on the same time. Can wait for the windows update.
Dear Cas and Char, this is a great video and I have literally been waiting for such a clear and informative piece to be published - keep it up!!
THANK YOU so damn much for THIS comparison video.
It was highly requested! ❤
I've been doing searches for weeks looking for ANYONE to compare them. Of course Cas and Chary have things covered! I have the Nreal...oops, sorry, XREAL AIR glasses and I'm looking forward to seeing what the BEAM is at AWE. Are you attending?
Your editing is glass smooth and the timing of transitions is soothing. Beautifully done.
Also, this answers a big question I had, as I find these devices to sport a very attractive use case.
I refuse to watch content from a bwc lover who don't even got a nose bridge lol
I actually purchased both to test and will be keeping the Rokid Max. Out of the box, even with the less than optimal Rokid Hub (US) release, the Max works with more of my devices and the 3d SBS switch is a massive boon to watching and playing 3d content in Side-by-side mode.
As you stated in the review, the clarity of the max is noticable compared to the nReal. Additionally, as someone with a wider head, I found the rokid max, with their spring arms and softer pressure, to be far more comfortable to wear for extended periods of time.
I tend to watch my shows and play my games with subtitles enabled by default, I found the max to be legible 100% of the time, while I found the nreal air to only work well with fairly large text.
I do wish the max had shipped with more than one nose piece, however, that is a minor issue in the grand scheme of things!
Thanks for putting this video (and others) together. Keep up the good work and helping drive the VR/AR/XR economy!
i’m on the fence about which one love your small review i’m more a apple user watch phone ipad max book but i do have a steam deck and all consoles what would you pick if you weren’t a samsung user ?
@@sharpiesharpie8356 I actually received the Rokid Max while still holding an xreal (now) air. I find the rokid max to be a lot more comfortable and work with more devices overall. I ended up picking up a powered HDMI -> USB C(DP) adapter for my desktop as well so now the working list of devices is: Steam Deck, USB-C iphone, ipad pro, windows desktop (as another monitor on-demand) and the n. switch. device wise, the nreal does just about everything except the windows PC the same.
I find the arms on the rokid to be far more comfortable than the nreal which are a bit to sharp and dig in at the temples for me -- I have a wide head.
Hope that helps!
@@tobiasdrewry4600 thank you !!! as I have a wide head.. this is serious problem of all VR :( I am glad you mention it.
@@tobiasdrewry4600 Good to know, thanks! I get headaches easily even if sunglasses dig in to the temples.
hey ! really hard to find people like you that tried both ! i have a bit of astigmathy (cyl -1) and i m afraid to see sides of the screen blurry, do i ll go for a a lense subscription. that said, exept the dial adjuster and the comfort that you mention is there for you a clear winner in term of display quality etc ? if yes why ? thanks for helping the community with your feedback
With the upcoming launch of the Beam for the Xreal / Nreal Air, I think the decision will become a bit easier.
I owned both and found the color on the Rokid to be way too warm for my taste. I really couldn’t stand it. Also the edge blur on the Rokid was an actual hindrance with the larger screen vs a minor annoyance on the xreal with the slightly smaller screen. Now that xreal can do 120hz and be paired with the beam, it’s the clear winner in my opinion (unless you need to diopter adjustments).
Thanks so much for the great video!
Is the diopter just for prescription? I have prescription for my eyes but I always wear contacts so probably wouldn't need that. If that's the case, would you recommend xreal?
The Nreal looks way better on the face. They don't immediately look weird.
Think I’m going to put the Rokid on my radar for Black Friday. I wear glasses so the option to dial in my prescription makes the choice pretty simple.
Thanks for the review though, the video’s very well put together and answered any questions I could’ve thought of.
I got the nReal Air (by the way, they are called "xReal" as of today, I think because of a lawsuit...) about 6 months ago. They are actually great when used as a tiny portable monitor. They work well with the Steam Deck, and I do occasionally watch 3D movies on them. I love that they can already work with Apple computers and will soon work with Windows, but I don't think I will use that very often, much like the phone app. Sure, it's fun and impressive and feels futuristic to put a bunch of windows around you and pretend you live in the future. But it's not really productive or useful.
So: awesome as a portable monitor for gaming and movies. But not really AR, that 3DOF tracking is more of a gimmick.
I use it with my windows laptop, 3 extra displays on the go, plugged it into my phone maybe once?
Hello I have a question do you need to buy the adapter to hook it up to your iPhone or does it come with the iPhone adapter?
@@ddemons4730 You have to buy the adapter extra, it's not included in the box. Though by now, I would probably get the new "XREAL Beam" instead, since it's way more flexible.
You do since iphone does not supply power and adapter has its own battery inside
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You do since iphone does not supply power and adapter has its own battery inside
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I might have gotten the Rokid had I watched your video last week (so I am now a bit fearful because of the blurred edges especially subtitles and the 120hz differences), but I am also interested in experimenting with the prescription glasses and the greater software and multiple device features that the Xreal that I just ordered. Half of my large-screen video consumption has subtitles (Korean Drama etc.) and I actually multitask with subtitles in many of the youtubes I monitor. We shall soon see, wish I could play with both, may end up switching.
How did it go?
Was the experience good? I'm trying to buy one of them.
Third chiming in for updates
Thumbs up for your reaction on the above questions. Because i also want to know.
NReals arms adjust with a loud snapping for each increment. My advice is adjust once and once only and when they are unconnected as one lens stopped functioning when I was adjusting them.
The comment about subtitles was critical to me.
Wait, people still do lan parties? Haven't been to one of those since high school.
Can you redo this video comparing against the Air 2?
TBH, I'm going to wait a generation or two for the technology to mature a bit further. I just saw the Apple Vision Pro, and while that thing is stupid expensive (Like $3500 US?), it does seem to set the bar appropriately high. In a few years or so, I hope to see something of similar level of quality to that (visual fidelity, gesture & voice controls, and overall software support and stability), cheaper (let's be real, we don't need the Eye Vision gimmick do we? It's an interesting feature but no doubt is an expensive addition), and of course targeted towards Windows/Android. Basically, I'd like to see something lean more in the VR, but provide high quality passthrough like the Apple Vision apparently has. I know some VR headsets, especially high end ones, have some great features, but we need something smaller and lighter if we're going to use it regularly in day to day life. Battery life is also a big factor.
I'm among a small group of people that have low vision and appreciate this video❤
3:01 that's probably the best way to put the AR view into perspective that I've seen so far, every other video should be doing this
2 months later, which one do you still use the most?
Great video, I think I would go with the Xreal, I think software makes or breaks a device.
Thank you for your review. Really helpful!
Glad to know the Rokid works with the Nintendo Switch with minimal hassle! I hope the Nreal Air could provide a similar dongle/solution.
Thanks for the detailed usage video, great job explaining and showing the difference. One thing I would change is your definition of ‘AR’. Augmented Reality, which can be anything from heads-up displays in jet fighters to as recent as more expensive automobiles. Even audio only devices could fit this definition. Google Glass comes to mind for this category.
XR would be a better definition of displays that uses sensors to determine position and track the user in 3D space. The problem is Apple & Google needed to differentiate their tech that allows 3D objects to appear to be in your “living room” via your phone’s screen from VR’s usage of a phones screen as was the case with Google Cardboard type tech. In fact XREAL and Rokid could be considered partial XR since they do provide 3DOF via their builtin IMU (Inertial Measurement Units) allowing rotational information of the wearers head to be integrated into the position of the projected image. This gives the user the perception that the image is ‘anchored’ in one place. 6DOF type XR devices would be products like MS Hololens and MagicLeap. In fact NReal did actually make a 6DOF that I believe was called the NREAL Pro, but it was much more expensive and due to it relying on stereo image based SLAM (Simultaneous Localization and Mapping) versus laser patterned or TOF based depth sensors and letting the phone do most of the processing, made tracking & anchoring less than ideal and more important was power hungry, not to mention a heavier & bulkier unit. One could add 6DOF by incorporating an external sensor like Occipital’s Structure Sensor, which I had tested & developed around in another product back in 2017-18 (see videos on my channel). What is interesting is how the VR market has also hijacked the term, by adding stereo color cameras and then integrating the dual video feed with the normal stereo VR screens to create a ‘Mixed Reality’ image (which I feel ‘MR’ is a better acronym for this type of device. In fact the Apple Vision Pro, is really a very high resolution VR HMD with 6K dual color video cameras, and dual TOF laser depth sensing.
Hi, could you check the minimum IPD distance at the Rokid Max please? I cannot find this value. I also would like to know the performance with a PC, is there some input lag or other issues? Thank you in advance! Nice videos, I love to watch it. Kind regards Chris
Rokid Service send me for the AIR 57,5 -69,5 mm but in the software it is only 60mm ajustable as minimum. For the MAX there write me 55-70 mm but i would like to have a response from a people who check it at the device because the value for the AIR there send to me was wrong. Is somebody out there who can check it please? Thanks in advance!
My Rockid was just shipped last week. Can't wait to put my hands on it and couple it with my beloved Steam Deck!!
Thanks for all info and analysis!
Any updates on the experience?
@@courtneyricherson2728 It is very good! I don't regret it at all. It's so perfect for media consomption at bed lol. Don't expect any AR from it. It'll just be a screen attached to your eyesight. But that doesn't bother me.
The main downside I find is that it's too bright, even at minimum, so it's a bit annoying to use them in full darkness.
@@SerKBer sounds like a use-case for apps like Twilight. TY tons!
I want to use as a monitor and watching movies. But I only have a laptop with HDMI. I am going to have to sus out if I can use a converter with the Max. Thanks for your review, and the comments of viewers. The most informative and clear I have found.
Your work on this channel is really inspiring in many ways.
Rokid for me - for two reasons:
- I wear regular glasses, meaning I'd need to add the cost of prescription lenses with the Nreal
- I would use it mainly for portable gaming, meaning I care less about the software support and care more about the refresh rate
Isn't the refresh rate 120 for both?
Im legally blind and need the screen close, is the screens u see in rookid at a fixed distance or can i get the mirrored image closer or is it always and the 6 meter distance?
I am using my new pair of Rokid Max glasses on a laptop where the screen appears to be about the same size as a 32"" monitor at arms length away. It does not resize so when I look into the room, it just appears larger vs the room. I am visually challenged also and bought the glasses to help me use the PC. I am able to see better with these. Text is clear and sharp. However, I still have to peek around the glasses to orient my hands to type. The passthrough of the room depends on light levels so darker rooms make a better screen but harder to see the keyboard. I'll probably use the light blocker and up the room lighting for PC.
Excellent review, with better technical specs than other reviews I've seen. Thanks 😁
I want a device to play RockBand and see my electronic drum kit through the screen. Is it possible to extend screen and make the image more opaque so that i can see through it ?
I started out with the Nreal Air, at first I didn't like them because the bottom of the screen would be cut off.. then I discovered you could adjust the arms to angle the glasses(that helped tremendously), I picked up the Rokid Max because I wanted to adjust for my nearsighted eyes... which worked well, however I ran into the same issue where the bottom of the screen was cut off for me(must be the angle of my nose).. but the Rokid DOES NOT have an option to adjust the arms, so ended up returning them.
Really... 🤔 Great to know ..thanks for sharing that important fact... 🙌 I don't have a TV so I'm looking for something like this to watch Netflix UA-cam and use some of my apps in the biggest format.... I was leaning towards the rokid because I heard the mini LED displays we're a lot better.... But .... That's just on paper.... Did you find any big difference in picture quality between the both models...? Thanks 👍
@@m2n900 actual picture quality not really, the main thing ROKID has that's a big win in my book is the dial adjusters to help with those that are near sighted. If the ROKID had angle adjustments on the arms then it would've been the "clear" winner for me :D
@@jondub81 thanks 👍
@@m2n900 hey ! really hard to find people like you that tried both ! i have a bit of astigathy (cyl -1) and i m afraid to see sides of the screen blurry, do i ll go for a a lense subscription. that said, exept the dial adjuster is there for you a clear winner ? if yes why ? thanks for helping the community with your feedback
Fantastic review. This helped me mske a decision on the xreals!
Woohoo AR time baby!!
Thank you for pointing out that Rokid Max is VERY LIMITED in terms of the hardware that is compatible with it.
I am unable to use my Rokid Max on my Lenovo Ideapad3, Samsung phone A32 5G, my Amazon Fire 10 HD Plus or my Chromebook.
I was able to install the Rokid AR on my phone only but still it was not working. My Lenovo Ideapad3 recognized Rokid Max but still unable to use it.
There are no instructions or videos to help new users. All the products they have are promotional, misleading and not instructional.
We need help to be able to use the product or we would have no use for it and will have to return it.
Any thoughts on this?
if your devices do not have display options in the usb/c port, there will be no picture.... just check your specs. No glasses are wrong about that. But cheaper devices are, because they are not equipped with that.
I am visually impaired and have a question about the screen. 215" at 6 m sounds good but can one get closer than that by zoomning or "walking" toeards the screen?
Thanx for interedting material!
Greetings from Sweden and Stefan
Hi, does any of them able to render 3d model objects? or does it support only flat surfaces? (rendering screens) thanks!
I am interested in watching my 3D content. What file formats are supported please? MPO? SBS, ANAGLYPH?
Thanks. Which one is better for productivity and multi-monitor tasks?
I would love to use this to place and pin multiple virtual desktops (external monitors) while working with laptop (Linux/Mac/Windows/ChromeOS/etc.). Based on multiple reviews this doesn't sound to be ready.
Will it have detrimental effect on eyes like vr headsets?
Any similar glasses that have a camera and allow to see the surroundings through it?
Thanks for the comparison! Can I ask if you are going to do work on your laptop and using iPhone 15 for media content. Will you be choosing rokid max because of the better text reading?
Have you reviewed the Rockid with Rockid Station yet? I would like to know your thoughts. Thank you
im looking to purchase the nreelair glasses to play my steam deck and watch tv in my truck. is it pretty much plug and play, whats the battery life like and have you tried the nreel beam with the glasses
do any of both options come with the option to use/watch the same screen with other pair of glasses btw
Have you tried using gingerxr to keep the monitors in one position?
Does the announcement of the Beam attachment change your thoughts at all?
Does it work well for productivity? I would enjoy havimg multiole screens to work with
Other than airplane rides, I'm not too sure what purpose to use these over a regular tv, unless family really takes up one tv. I feel like I can switch multi screens on a laptop with a swipe of my fingers, so that doesn't matter so much to me personally.
I stay in a lot of hotels for my job. A lot of the TV's are small with no Netflix capabilities. Watching movies and TV series with these is better than using my phone or tablet. This is like having a portable home theater that you can store in a backpack.
which one is best for watching movies ? ANYONE PURCHASED AND USED XREAL AIR 2 ? PLEASE SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCES .
Thank you for this great comparison video. It greatly helps my decision on which one I want to buy. 5/5
I like the 3 monitor setup with the Nreal
Which one would be better for supporting side by side VR?
I forgot what this video was about. Her Voice is so soothing. ❤️❤️❤️
13:57 / 14:21
XREAL is the one i have brought.cant wait to get it,thank you bobby.
Did you try opening a WebXR or WebVR scene inside the web browser? Can you navigate through the stage in a 3D environment? Can you use both glasses to project 3D objects/scenes in real space?
I wish I could get some expert honest advice about these smart glasses.I have bought the cables adapters beams and none of that works.I returned the xreal glasses,I couldn't get anything to work.
I purchased the Rokid Max. I will be receiving it Tuesday. Right now I am in a Rehabilitation home so I will be using it to play games and watch movies. I have allot of movies in UHD I want to watch with the 120 refresh rate. I will have to play with the 3d also.
Hey why don't you use VR headset ... I think they already are doing everything you are saying and it looks a cheaper solution.... however can you use your glasses when it' s really dark? Thanks for the video
Nice video! Could you please see if either AR glasses can zoom the image in for those of us with extremely poor vision (accessability zoom features). When I mirror my iPhone to the TV, the zoom feature works on the phone but it does not zoom on the TV.
You should bring this up to Apple and see if they can help you fix it
Was this called Nreal like literally 6 days ago?
Please look directly into the lenses. Which one is physically bigger?
Great review, thank you! Could you say something about the input latency when gaming with Rokid Max, by any chance? I'd like to get them as my main display for PS5, but latency is a huge concern. I'm worried it may be pretty high, especially when using a Type C to HDMI adapter.
What's the name of that kitten of yours? It sounds quite interesting.
Will it also work with my ereader ?
What happened to the Huawei Vision Glass?
XReal gift doesn't connect to my laptop (no USBC). Special cable from Amazon with USBA/DisplayPort at one end and USBC at the other hasn't come yet. Mirroring my Android works well. One question... the Nebula software agreement seems to grant unnecessary and concerning rights to the vendor. Can you take a look and offer an opinion?
Can you compare these against Venture glasses.
Great comparison video! Thank you!
I hope you’re enjoying KC:D! That was the first 50+ game that I played on my Steam Deck.
Does either of those support Variable Refresh Rate?
it really pains me that these are the same price as a pico 4 or quest ... but i would really like to have these for use for travel
I have the nreal air and mainly use it for screen mirror on my phone and playing with my Xbox but I'm having issues logging into my UA-cam account with the nreal nebula app, it says I can't use unsupported browsers, if anyone knows a work around for this issue I would appreciate the help
login into the google account in browser first...
My xreal air is coming today. I'm really on the fence on if i made the right choice between this and the rokid max. I'm tempted to buy the rokid just to compare. The only reasons the xreal appear to be the better option, is how discrete it looks, the active community around it, and slightly better software. The rokid looks more polished, material and design wise, eventhough it sits funny on the face. It also marginally outperforms the xreal, specs wise. I will likely upgrade when the next wave of these devices are released, so i think xreals are good enough in the interim.
Can you give any updates on the experience?
@@courtneyricherson2728 So far, its been a nice to have, but don't find myself using it a lot at home. When I do travel, I use it as a distraction to pass the time in the airport, or on the flight. Its also good for watching a movie at the hotel. Maybe its because I'm used to watching shows on my television when I'm at home, I haven't really given it a chance as an alternative display. I do find the cable, and slight bulkiness of the glasses, discomforting, which is probably why I still use it in such limited, niche ways.
Nice video, thank you!!
From purely a "movie watching / TV series from NAS on the couch" standpoint, which could be better? One of these "smartglasses" or a Quest 3 (Q2 maybe?)? I understand that the Q3 is a complete standalone VR headset with you can do lot's of other things a well, but still my question is valid. Imho for movies, these glasses can be maybe a better option (waaaaay lighter, I can lie down to bed, nothing is on may back of the head), but when it comes to costs, these are simply too overpriced, seeing that what else can a Q3 do, and maybe in even better quality (okay OLED is better than LCD, that is for sure). So for movies: smart AR glasses, or VR headset?
Thank you for the comparison review!
what is the game that you play in from 8 minute ?
Thanks for the video. I'm thinking about buying a pair of AR glasses and this really helped 👍😊
Nice... I wish they hurry up and send my Rokid Max... I ordered about 2 weeks ago.. My reason for buying them over the others were because I can charge while using them.. Can you comment on the bottom of the screen being cut at all? I was hearing that from some people... or it doesn't fill the bottom of the screen..
i ordered a month and a half ago and have not received mine
I see there are little prismas inside the (big) glasses. Couldn't they make this device much smaller by just using the prismas and leave out the glasses?
Finally ..compare video !!
Does it causes fatigue on the eyes...? I'm worried The closenest, plus the intensive lumens, may cause eye fatigue... ?
Doesn't happen to me after 2+ hours. I think they designed the glasses to be safe for long term use.
@@CasandChary thank you for your reply/help.... I don't have a TV... So I'm looking to get something to watch UA-cam and Netflix bigger!! ...playing some games and using some apps.... I read and seen some videos of each model, but you're the first to compared them side by side.... 🙌 Is the pictures quality much higher on the Rokid I assume because it has next get mini oled diaplays... But.... Does it REALLY make a big difference in the real use? .... Did you noticed a bid difference in quality?.... Will appreciate it your advice..... Greatest video 🙌
I have both now and the Rokid Max's are a big step up in image quality but also the 120hz mode which is fantastic for gaming. Pair it with the Rog Ally (both120hz) for a brilliant portable gaming experience .
On which games do you see the difference? Not easy to reach 120 fps?
I like indie games on handhelds - I play triple a plenty too but all indies I've tried are 120 ...
Do they support windows
@@hannyn2160 yes
Can you get lenses for the rokid
I feel like the xreal is the only one people would wear in public.
Can I use this glass on google map while im driving? Can you see through the app while using it? Hope someone can answer me this as i want to use this while im driving.
Also when driving motorcycle.😂
Probably not a wise idea for obvious reasons 😂😂😂
I have the Nreal air. It's cool but it isn't where I would like. The software is okay but it's not my favorite. I wish you could use your android apps with head tracking but you can't. When I use it with the Steam deck the lack of head tracking is annoying and I forget about the screen size while gaming. Not worth the price to me.
Is this allowed on the airplane? Never flown long distance and understand not having the phone on during take off but this seems perfect for flying overseas.
If you put your phone in airplane mode it’s allowed, your downloaded videos and games are still playable. Or don’t use it on take off for safety reasons 👀
@@Gaming-Legends007 Thnx
The future of home television and media viewing. Will probably jump in with the next iteration (clarity is still not good enough to me yet)
i never tried the Rokid. i LOVE LOVE LOVE my xReal Light's. Paired with Samsung Dex on my s21 Ultra is the best productivity set-up ever.
Thank you. That is what i wanted to read. Although i have still a Note 10. Probably upgrading to the S24 next year.
Want to watch a movie while sitting. But also want to use it for multi monitor setup with my pc. Could you tell a bit more about the quality of the virtual monitors ? Is it sharp and crisp like looking at a real monitor. I am afraid that it will be a great dissapointment.
The new xreal beam comes out next month and is now compatible with all devices and has its own independent 5000mah battery pack/controller for about 450$
I really don’t get why designers still include the nose cutout for the AR glasses…they tick out an inch away from the face so have a nose cut out just looks silly…unless it’s meant for toucan Sam. If glasses are going to be that far out, then it’s not glasses anymore so it shouldn’t take on the literal form.
I decided to go for the Rokid.
And n luck with the upcoming rokid 2.
Cant wait for september shipping
Reason for rokid screen and sound quality
I'd like a pair of rokids but I wish I could try them with my steam deck before committing because that's the deciding factor.
Bought both. Returned both. Air is not designed for large heads. Temple length to short. Unadjustable. Digs into head. Perfect eyes only. Prescription lens brings costs (at 100+ ) way up. 1080p OK. Needs 4k. Looks great
MAx. Diopter eye adjuster big plus. Almost kept product. Fits big heads. Minus. Poor support. 1080p. Looks stupid in public.
If you take the pluses of both products and made 1 product with 4k. They would sell millions.
I have the Nreal air, but the android app is beyond shocking. I have a Samsung S23 Ultra flagship phone and the AR just crashes, It's good for flying abroad though, through DEX. I can watch movies and mirror my phone. AR is just not ready yet without a lot of software development
Did you submit a support ticket?
My nreal air doesn't work with my steamdeck