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No Kwasi. It was not a simple political decision. It was a result of psychological determinism. There are people who the government are afraid of and others who they are not afraid of, and they always bully the ones who they fear least and kowtow to the tough ones. That's why train drivers have received an unseemly pay rise and pensioners have been treated like the doormat. Starmer's government always pursues a rash or cowardly exit from every noteworthy demand and challenge of politics. The Penguin Dictionary of Proverbs warns : A bully is always a coward.
I worked hard all my life, paid all my taxes and brought my children up with proper values and am now penalised because I did the right thing and did without things. Thank you very much you selfish horrible labour party.
Think about all the potential doctors and nurses though! They want to make sure they've got housing, food, and everything else because they're the future...
That's absolutely disgusting, I actually can't believe that m.ps have the gaul to claim subsidiaries when they are loaded, and this is supposed to be labour!!!..there's no such thing anymore as a party for the people!!
Keir Starmer is an absolute disgrace. That WW2 veteran (full 31 mission tour in the rear turret, average life expectancy five missions) was extraordinarily lucky to survive. HIS heating should be FREE. He’s worth a thousand Keir Starmers.
Yes he is .....but it won't bother the evil Starmer He Wii mention the black hole for the 400th time....but he won't mention the polititon heating allowance and he won't mention the billions spent on his beloved illegal immigrants
You do know that the baby boomers are the richest generation in British history, 41% own 2 or more houses, the best pensions and have the highest cost burden in history at a whopping quarter of a million pounds per person... They fuel bill is for people who NEED IT like OAPs on low incomes and benifits ONLY... Not the rich baby boomers.
@@andrekertesz9895 You do know that the baby boomers are the richest generation in British history, 41% own 2 or more houses, the best pensions and have the highest cost burden in history at a whopping quarter of a million pounds per person... They fuel bill is for people who NEED IT like OAPs on low incomes and benifits ONLY... Not the rich baby boomers.
hahaha and that is Labour (London) in a nutshell, they are not for the working class and haven't been since well before Blair..I honestly cannot believe how anyone in their right mind voted for them after Corbyn, Abbot ect.. same ethics different front man, you could see it from a mile away, woke globalists who hate the native population and now we pay the price. Anyone with a sensible head on their shoulders should have voted reform.
You do know that the baby boomers are the richest generation in British history, 41% own 2 or more houses, the best pensions and have the highest cost burden in history at a whopping quarter of a million pounds per person... They fuel bill is for people who NEED IT like OAPs on low incomes and benifits ONLY... Not the rich baby boomers.
@@terrytunney4089 The few votes he's got have actually voted him in on the basis of stealing the perceived wealth of the older generations for redistribution to fund the semi retired lifestyles demanded by the under 30's and their pro immigration, service sector and manufacturing imports based, la la land economy.
@@MikeEves I worked as a nurse in my local Hospice. We had to share visors as we didn't have enough. Both myself and friend got Covid from a patient. We were both seriously ill. I retired 2 years ago aged 68. The two faced Starmer is now thanking us by stealing from us. BTW I voted Reform.
Starmer should be arrested, Everyone should be accountable. Even the royal families like Andrew got sacked from duty because of his wrongdoings . SACK STARMER BEFORE HE KILLS THOUSANDS OF PENSIONERS FOR HIS OWN GREED AND POWER .
Starmer is too incompetent to deal with real issues so he goes after the low lying fruit. Very similar to cracking down on social media miscreants because he's too wet to go after the real offenders. He's waving a little stick and thinking he's being a great leader when in reality, he's acting like a petty, second tyrant from a banana republic.
Given Starmer supports the Israeli state-terrorist regime slaughtering Muslims in Palestine and other Middle-East countries, your comment is beyond absurd.
@@AnnHollowell-l1vNo they are for themselves. Labourites normally screw the country in two to four years, this time they have managed to do it in two months. And we have not even had their budget yet. What's coming in the budget, big misery for all.
Illegals, surely !!?? Tis a bloody crying shame the tax payers don't get a choice where their hard earned cash goes !! Afraid we ran out of sticking plasters a while ago, now the wounds are seeping. Geesh, what a mess.....😢
I know of three old people who have shared their view on this, two, who will no longer get the allowance, are OK with it because they don't need it, they have plenty enough money to stay warm, and one who is poorer who isn't going to have the pension stopped. The poor one is off to US on holiday, that's how poor she is. Who are the ones who are going to die of cold?
Because we have billions to give away not for the pensioners it's true ed have away 11 billion why not give 9 and 2 for pensioners and some for Homeless and some for foreigners to go home
Taking winter heating allowance away from UK pensioners with one hand and giving it to young migrants with the other is one of the worst political decisions ever made.
And what about our poor, darling prisoners being thrown !! out of their comfy cells onto the cold, unforgiving streets with nowhere to put their heads down for a jolly good nights sleep. Maybe they could go to one of the hotels where I.I's are staying & cuddle up with them to keep. warm. 😜 So, Pensioners are going to starve or freeze, prisoners (sorry) ex prisoners are going to struggle with jobs, houses, money, awwww & I.I's are living in luxury at the tax payers expense. All's well with the world & they're still coming over in the little rubber dingys !!!! Eeeee what a to-do....... 🤬😡
I really can't believe that rachael reeves has the nerve to take £3700 pound, and essentially have someone else pay her heating bill. That's next level disgusting!
On the day that they cancel the winter fuel allowance for pensioners, they release hundreds of criminals from jail and tell the probation service to put them up in hotels at the taxpayers expense. If that is not a slap in the face for British pensioners then I don't know what is. Utterly disgusting.
Plus if check out Two Tier Bend the Kier, he has just announced he has recruited a number of Blair / Brown Supporters into his business Gang and that is going to cost millions in wages / staff and Gold Plated Pensions/ Payments
Worked from leaving school at 15 years old. Served in HM forces for 8 years, served in the Ambulance Service for 41 years now retired. I am 75 years old. How can a Government treat many people like us this way. Labour has become a Dictatorship.
Been saying this myself ! It's an absolute disgrace that the country's been run into the ground as it is. These immigrants are invading and we are giving them hand outs, what is that all about
They think our grandparents are too 'far right' because they've always paid their bills, and have always paid-in for their pension. Now they can live without. They are too rich for Sir Velcro Poppy. My grandad says. . . 'F2TK. . . and vote Reform UK'.
They should be ashamed my Aunt 101 never married cause of war years. Worked in ammunition factory throughtout. Lives alone and housebound The only thing she cant cut back on is heating Any one who voted for this are a disgrace
No ... Nick Griffin of the BNP pointed out that Reform is not working class, Mr Farage you know lives in Westminster and it's the absolute elite city in the UK. Reform is not a peasant party.
Pension £11502 a year (221.20 a week) so no pension credit, no WFA Rent 7200 (£600 a month) Council tax £1500 a year Energy £1400 a year TV licence £169.50 a year Telephone £250 a year Left £982.50 a year £18.89 a week for food, who can live on that?
@@andrekertesz9895 I was at the count. What got me from the start was all the Labour lot were grinning like Cheshire cats even from the start of the count as if they knew in advance what the result was going to be.
@@Pythonaria it's not he who votes that counts, but he who counts the votes, that determines the outcome of an election, you have lived in a two-party dictatorship for a long time, even reform are just another part of the same whole, in roman mythology this is where the concept of a "Hydra" came from, an unkillable beast with many heads, and where you decapitate one head, two more takes it's place, our government, is a dark beast indeed,
I think we're in for not only a cold winter but an early one. My cats started shedding their summer coats a month ago. They usually don't do that until the end of September. The squirrels have already taken the pears off my tree and that's early for them. Keep an eye on nature as that is usually a good indicator of what is to come weatherwise.
On what planet would anyone think it’s ok to give train drivers already on a very large salary a £10k pay rise whilst taking away winter fuel allowance from OAP’s with an income of just £13k and over, it’s shameful.
The unions pull Starmer and Labours strings. They always have. Starmer is a Trotskyite at heart always has been. This country will be like Venezuela by the time he has finished. I wish people would research who they vote for before doing so.
I’m sick of them whining for more money. They get paid quite enough for an easy and enjoyable job, compared to a lot of other “hard work” vocations…. Labour have always robbed Peter to pay Paul. That’s how they budget. #muppets 🙄🙄🙄
Just over £13,000! My pension is just over £9, 000 , a year as on the full basic pension , as born before 1953 and that includes a top up of Pension credit of £650 .00 a year . If i recieved over thirteen grand i would not need the winter fuel payment at all .
I sent a very long letter to my local MP John Trickett last week to ask him to represent what his constituents want instead of following the party line. He did just that. I congratulate John for being the ONLY LABOUR MP to have the balls to vote for what he believed in
Starmerz father owned the Tool Making Factory He famousky said hd worked as a toolmaker for 6 mths....no! He worked in his fathers factory for 6 months😂
I didn't and not all pensioners are rich and don't need it, they could just have put up tax by a penny or so on those who have 40% tax rate as they "can" afford it!?!
Yrs Watch this space Labour will not exist any more in the future Yours Brtish citizen 1960 Ps What happened to education education education From Labour This is your product Not the brightest bulb Must be millions like this clown No wonder uk sinking like the titanic And we dont have any life boats Migrates have our life boats incase they need to go back home It not rocket science
As a muslim that ww2 veteran should not been ashamed of his country personally i believe the veteran should get special treatment since HE RISKED HIS LIFE FOR THE COUNTRY
Your right Hope at the May election everyone votes her out. They are committing manslaughter on the elderly and should be charged for that. The Lords get £350.00 a day just to sit in the warm place, cheap meals and drink. Hopefully that waste of money will help the new party to pay the elderly.
How about stopping the ELEVEN BILLION POUNDS we give away in foreign aid, we have to borrow that money and pay interest on it, the interest alone would pay the winter heating allowance ! Charity begins at home.
@@WeAreWatchingU Yes but this wasn't in their manifesto was it? Makes me wonder what else they have in store for us. Take away our bus passes perhaps? They are doing these things now because they know they can't face any consequences at the ballot box for 4 years, by which time a lot of today's pensioners will no longer be with us and the government is hoping the ones that are will have forgotten about the winter fuel allowance.
@BoingBB Exactly! They have gone against it and people believed what they heard. Labour Manifesto 2024: "Second, that if you work hard then - whoever you are, wherever you started in life - Britain is a country that will respect your contribution and give you a fair chance to get on" AND "This manifesto is that plan. Fully costed, fully funded - built on a rock of fiscal responsibility." Seems like things are not as they promised.
Your Labour Party is so far from what traditional Labour stood for, it is an abomination. Why any working class would vote for them, as it clearly is working against their interests.
My Labour MP voted with the government even though we have a high proportion of pensioners in my area! I re-looked at her election speech where she pledged to serve her constituents. Great start to her first (and last) term! This betrayel will not be forgotten nor forgiven!
@@annscanlan8136 our Labour MP is my cousin and I can't believe he voted to take away the Winter Fuel Allowance to pensioners like me and my husband. We have worked since we were 15 and 16 respectively and retired aged 68.
This is Labour's fatal error and it will become more apparent when the public sees the reality of the consequences for struggling pensioners. Time for change as our system is clearly corrupt.
National Living Wage is £11.44 per Hour. Based on a 39 Hour Week that works out at £446 per Week. Or £23,200 per Year. State Pension is HALF OF THAT AMOUNT. Does that mean anyone on the State Pension isnt expected to have the Same Life Style. As someone on the Governments Living Wage. That is what the Government are telling Everyone is the Minimum You Need To Live On Today. 95% of Pensioner on Basic Full State Pension are Above the Pension Credit Level of £218 Quid a Week. Because Full State Pension Today is £221 per Week. This Stinks very badly as a Set Up for the OAPs
Immigrants will be fed and warm, and pensioners will be out in the cold this winter, when they saved this country during the war years. I bet the MPs will be warm too, shame on them.
saved us? they are the reason why we have what we currently do, this is a classic case of, "careful what you wish for" they sold us out, after eating up propaganda and stirring the bloodiest war the worlds ever seen, who got to experience the economic booms after the war? that nice little golden era? who squandered that and kept it for themselves driving up inflation and debt economy? that's right the pensioners did! why is homelessness so high? because the pensioners are not good people, they condemned us, not saved us, still, i dont wish them any harm beyond the realisation of their actions,
Labour have exposed their incompetence by pushing this cut in fuel payments. All they had to do is give a slightly lower wage increase to the public sector and train drivers, that would have allowed them to retain the winter fuel payment. Having failed to do this it exposes their political incompetence and how heartless they are.
About 15% less than what they gave accross the board. Even a 12.5% reduction in foreign aid would have paid for it. So far, they've pledged an additional 9.4 billion a year in public service salaries and cut 1.4 billion from the fuel allowance payments. Makes you wonder how they're meant to be filling the "black hole" when before the budget is even released, they've spent more than they've saved.
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No Kwasi. It was not a simple political decision.
It was a result of psychological determinism. There are people who the government are afraid of and others who they are not afraid of, and they always bully the ones who they fear least and kowtow to the tough ones.
That's why train drivers have received an unseemly pay rise and pensioners have been treated like the doormat.
Starmer's government always pursues a rash or cowardly exit from every noteworthy demand and challenge of politics.
The Penguin Dictionary of Proverbs warns : A bully is always a coward.
@@georgewarner5496 Tut ... the Penguin Dictionary, you know this isn't the House Of Lords? 'People whom the government,' George, not people who.
@@georgewarner5496Well said 😊
@@georgewarner5496 read more books and not the back of cereal boxes.
Tata steel 500m bail out with public tax money
I worked hard all my life, paid all my taxes and brought my children up with proper values and am now penalised because I did the right thing and did without things. Thank you very much you selfish horrible labour party.
I hope things work out this winter. I'm young (ish) but I whole heartedly agree with your statement 🙏
Labour will pay for this (....and other things) until my dying days, I didnt like them before, I hate them now!?!
I listen to Starmer's voice, and I cringe into a ball.
Think about all the potential doctors and nurses though! They want to make sure they've got housing, food, and everything else because they're the future...
Your government don’t care and never have - don’t tell on the clowns is my advice - they line their own pockets
WHAT ABOUT THE MP'S HEATING ALLOWANCE FOR THEIR SECOND HOME ?
Time they were made to give theirs up
That's absolutely disgusting, I actually can't believe that m.ps have the gaul to claim subsidiaries when they are loaded, and this is supposed to be labour!!!..there's no such thing anymore as a party for the people!!
@sandrastacey558 that won't happen
They get paid enough! Pay your own fuel bills! Then they will feel what the pensioners feel who struggle this winter
Let’s. See their expenses
Keir Starmer is an absolute disgrace. That WW2 veteran (full 31 mission tour in the rear turret, average life expectancy five missions) was extraordinarily lucky to survive. HIS heating should be FREE. He’s worth a thousand Keir Starmers.
A million starmers
Yes he is .....but it won't bother the evil Starmer
He Wii mention the black hole for the 400th time....but he won't mention the polititon heating allowance and he won't mention the billions spent on his beloved illegal immigrants
@@saraandivanevans6881 True 👍
@@saraandivanevans6881 I'll up that to a Trillion 2TK Stasi's.
@@Shaun137 Shaun .... Can I raise that to Infinity and Beyond ? 😁.
UK has lowest pensions in Europe and the highest fuel costs.
You do know that the baby boomers are the richest generation in British history, 41% own 2 or more houses, the best pensions and have the highest cost burden in history at a whopping quarter of a million pounds per person... They fuel bill is for people who NEED IT like OAPs on low incomes and benifits ONLY... Not the rich baby boomers.
THATS INCORRECT. IM IN A EUROPEAN COUNTRY AS I WRITE AND ITS AROUND £1.60 A LTR
I wonder why that is could'nt be anything to do with the unions now could it
@@andrekertesz9895 You do know that the baby boomers are the richest generation in British history, 41% own 2 or more houses, the best pensions and have the highest cost burden in history at a whopping quarter of a million pounds per person... They fuel bill is for people who NEED IT like OAPs on low incomes and benifits ONLY... Not the rich baby boomers.
@@andrekertesz9895 no it's because of what you said... What now?
Rachel Reeves actually put her fuel expenses in just before she took winter fuel away from pensioners...over £4.000 how utterly disgusting
Lets have the heating turned off in Westminster for the winter. MPs need to show some solidarity. :-)
@@adenwellsmith6908great idea.
hahaha and that is Labour (London) in a nutshell, they are not for the working class and haven't been since well before Blair..I honestly cannot believe how anyone in their right mind voted for them after Corbyn, Abbot ect.. same ethics different front man, you could see it from a mile away, woke globalists who hate the native population and now we pay the price. Anyone with a sensible head on their shoulders should have voted reform.
@adenwellsmith6908 I'm up for that...they will probably claim its infringement on their human rights...know what these lot are like...
@@BLUEsurf63 I've a couple of petitions ready and waiting for when the Petitions committee reforms. Chairman should be elected in 2 days.
It’s just disgusted about Rachel Reeves receiving heating allowance, how can this happen?
We will NEVER forget this Starmer!!!! TRAITOR!!!
You do know that the baby boomers are the richest generation in British history, 41% own 2 or more houses, the best pensions and have the highest cost burden in history at a whopping quarter of a million pounds per person... They fuel bill is for people who NEED IT like OAPs on low incomes and benifits ONLY... Not the rich baby boomers.
This was always the end game of our Socialist menace within aka the Labour Party.
he will just get worse
@@terrytunney4089
The few votes he's got have actually voted him in on the basis of stealing the perceived wealth of the older generations for redistribution to fund the semi retired lifestyles demanded by the under 30's and their pro immigration, service sector and manufacturing imports based, la la land economy.
@@lsmith9249 And that could very well be his downfall.
Why do we keep paying migrants bills
When you realise they get £50 per week spending money, it makes you feel even worse.
Brexshit!!!!
Farage understands very little about the Dublin agreement .
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@@jackmarshall2496😂
Because the LibLabCon simply don’t care about U.K. citizens ..!!! ( Imho )
Reform party ARE the future 👍🇬🇧
Traitors in parliament. That's why.
Just four years ago the whole country shut down in order to protect our vulnerable elderly.
I'll leave that there
It was to protect the N H S so we couldn't use it .
@@amyp66 and how many died when the Tories sent them out of hospital back to care homes.
They weren't protected.
There are 2 things I hate about Starmer. His face!!!
@@MikeEves I worked as a nurse in my local Hospice. We had to share visors as we didn't have enough. Both myself and friend got Covid from a patient. We were both seriously ill. I retired 2 years ago aged 68. The two faced Starmer is now thanking us by stealing from us. BTW I voted Reform.
Vote of no confidence. Have them arrested for treason.
🤞
Tony Blair removed that law its why they dont care anymore they are free to sell us out
Starmer should be arrested, Everyone should be accountable. Even the royal families like Andrew got sacked from duty because of his wrongdoings .
SACK STARMER BEFORE HE KILLS THOUSANDS OF PENSIONERS FOR HIS OWN GREED AND POWER .
Yes indeed.
😂. You Obviously have no idea of how parliament operates.
Starmer wants the Muslim vote, and the migrant vote. The pensioners are the sacrifice.
Starmer is too incompetent to deal with real issues so he goes after the low lying fruit. Very similar to cracking down on social media miscreants because he's too wet to go after the real offenders. He's waving a little stick and thinking he's being a great leader when in reality, he's acting like a petty, second tyrant from a banana republic.
Given Starmer supports the Israeli state-terrorist regime slaughtering Muslims in Palestine and other Middle-East countries, your comment is beyond absurd.
If he can that us what will do to them ?
Next will be disabled I can just see it coming
May God forgive the treacherous s.o.b .for the nation won't and that's a fact.😮
I and my family WILL NEVER VOTE LABOUR AGAIN and that's a promise.
Shouldn't have voted for them in the first place. They are for the middle class.
@@AnnHollowell-l1v No they are for the WEF agenda.
@@AnnHollowell-l1vNo they are for themselves. Labourites normally screw the country in two to four years, this time they have managed to do it in two months. And we have not even had their budget yet. What's coming in the budget, big misery for all.
Never have and never will. Vote Reform.
NEVER VOTED FOR THEM STALINIST S
WHY ARE WE PUTTING MIGRANTS BEFORE OUR PENSIONERS WHO HAVE PAID INTO THE SYSTEM
Illegals, surely !!?? Tis a bloody crying shame the tax payers don't get a choice where their hard earned cash goes !! Afraid we ran out of sticking plasters a while ago, now the wounds are seeping.
Geesh, what a mess.....😢
We’re putting migrants before the British in general 😢
Law breakers i.e. illegal immigrants, costing billions!
@@joannewignall6417 "we're"?
so you are part of the problem? actively making things worse?
weird confession mate, expect lynching
Because the Labour Party loves illegal immigrats more than WW2 Veterans
Our elderly will need to choose between food or heating while migrants are getting both. Fkn disgusting!!
I know of three old people who have shared their view on this, two, who will no longer get the allowance, are OK with it because they don't need it, they have plenty enough money to stay warm, and one who is poorer who isn't going to have the pension stopped. The poor one is off to US on holiday, that's how poor she is.
Who are the ones who are going to die of cold?
@@robinhood4640 The old age pensioners who aren't the three old people you know.
@@sophiecish I think you're right.
I would like to point out that i could have worked that out by deduction, but thanks all the same.
fragile gammon?
Agreed disgusting is mild....its evil
Why are we giving "foreign aid" to countries with space programs...?
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Because we have billions to give away not for the pensioners it's true ed have away 11 billion why not give 9 and 2 for pensioners and some for Homeless and some for foreigners to go home
There u go so why why someone tell me why we give them money for what why
Stop foreign aid
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Indeed - the money sent to the Ukrainian Nazi regime should be stopped.
Best statement today Gary .cheers.😊
espicaly to scotland they get more £££ per person than england does
@@gary1632 also stop sending 3 billion a year to the most corrupt country in Europe.
Taking winter heating allowance away from UK pensioners with one hand and giving it to young migrants with the other is one of the worst political decisions ever made.
You mean illegal immigrants
Just remember who did this and never vote for them again ,they're treacherous fact.😮
Divide and rule.
And what about our poor, darling prisoners being thrown !! out of their comfy cells onto the cold, unforgiving streets with nowhere to put their heads down for a jolly good nights sleep. Maybe they could go to one of the hotels where I.I's are staying & cuddle up with them to keep. warm. 😜 So, Pensioners are going to starve or freeze, prisoners (sorry) ex prisoners are going to struggle with jobs, houses, money, awwww & I.I's are living in luxury at the tax payers expense.
All's well with the world & they're still coming over in the little rubber dingys !!!! Eeeee what a to-do....... 🤬😡
@@lynnbailey4144 sounds like some crazy film.
Thank goodness for Nigel Farage - voice of the people
This government is utterly disgusting. Keep on Starmer, we won't forget your behaviour EVER.
Wait till the budget...😂 it's going to be a stinker
And his Labour colleagues as well?
WELL MIGRANTS WILL STAY WARM
gammon victimhood?
On behalf of the over taxed British.
@@ram-z3j4r gr8 b8 m8
As will mps.
your right there
Plenty of money for hotels for people who entered the country illegally without documents.
If we pay them to go home wood save million in weeks of doing this
All those that supported the removal of the winter payments for pensioners and those that abstained are the lowest of the low. Cut their allowances.
agree , they are more interested in themselves than the people they are supposed to represent
Labour crooks the lot of them "except one"
Labour politicians will still be able to claim their allowances for second homes, food and travel, not forgetting claiming for gardeners etc.
@@daviddewing9383 There should be a cap of £50 a month for expenses, I am feeling generous.
Lets have the heating turned off in Westminster for the winter. MPs need to show some solidarity. :-)
Never ever going to vote Labour or Conservative again, Reform all the way 🏴🇬🇧
I didnt vote labour so i dont feel guilty voted reform yes i know they have money but sick of the 2 big parties so reform for me every time now
Same
Until they fuck you over which they will
me too, i,ll definatly never vote labour again, cos the days of labour being for the working class is way long gone, vote reform uk.
Did any of you actually vote Labour😂😂😂
I really can't believe that rachael reeves has the nerve to take £3700 pound, and essentially have someone else pay her heating bill. That's next level disgusting!
SNAKE
Tell her to house share when in London with other mps
I get a pension of £11'500 a year. I am not allowed tax credit will M P still be claiming winter fuel no mention of this the country is angry
On the day that they cancel the winter fuel allowance for pensioners, they release hundreds of criminals from jail and tell the probation service to put them up in hotels at the taxpayers expense. If that is not a slap in the face for British pensioners then I don't know what is. Utterly disgusting.
Plus if check out Two Tier Bend the Kier, he has just announced he has recruited a number of Blair / Brown Supporters into his business Gang and that is going to cost millions in wages / staff and Gold Plated Pensions/ Payments
Its disgusting what labour have done while giving money to other countries
Needs to stop
How much 11 billion yes 11 billion
Worked from leaving school at 15 years old. Served in HM forces for 8 years, served in the Ambulance Service for 41 years now retired. I am 75 years old. How can a Government treat many people like us this way. Labour has become a Dictatorship.
becasue thier told to by thier masters the WEF
Starmer is a disgrace
the abstainers are just cowards!
I bang my head to the wall, wondering why UK government favors immigrants over their own native citizens. I'm too afraid to ask...
At least you get a state pension, Many paying in now won't, The retirement age will hit 80 before too long.
I despise this government.
Me too.. I didn’t vote for them … they re disgusting
You're not alone josie..l think there could be a few million agreeing with you.
Elections in May, we know what to do.
Millions agree with you too
@@daisyroots8926i didn't vote for anyone because I actually new to his would happen
52 abstained?
spineless
Stop letting MPs claim their second home energy bills on their expenses, see how they like paying their own bills for a change.
Absolutely agree
Turning on the elderly just shows you how pathetic these people are!!
Not just pathetic ruthless as well.
@@JanetJames-dw6xo their also cowards for picking on the vulnerable
Taking away something that was freely given will never be forgiven...
Risking his life repeatedly for a country that is now in such a chaotic mess..... disgraceful.
I'm just glad that my grandparents are no longer alive to see what is happening to the country they were so proud to defend to the hilt.
I'm sorry to read this
Been saying this myself ! It's an absolute disgrace that the country's been run into the ground as it is. These immigrants are invading and we are giving them hand outs, what is that all about
They think our grandparents are too 'far right' because they've always paid their bills, and have always paid-in for their pension. Now they can live without. They are too rich for Sir Velcro Poppy.
My grandad says. . . 'F2TK. . . and vote Reform UK'.
Same.. my nan was in the Women's Land Army ... God bless her.. I can imagine what she would be saying about all this lot 🙏
They should be ashamed my Aunt 101 never married cause of war years. Worked in ammunition factory throughtout. Lives alone and housebound The only thing she cant cut back on is heating Any one who voted for this are a disgrace
Am sorry I was a Labour man never again thank u aunt from Steve piner
This can be challenged in court and should be.
No sensible pensioners will vote labour again. But they might vote reform!!
I am 73 never damn well voted for the creatures.
No ... Nick Griffin of the BNP pointed out that Reform is not working class, Mr Farage you know lives in Westminster and it's the absolute elite city in the UK. Reform is not a peasant party.
I am a pensioner and l did vote Reform.
@@maysouthampton5464 Yeah well you know you were entitled to. Good for you.
I voted REFORM
The fact that they even call pensions a benefit is demeaning in itself. It's a poor return for a lifetime's investment as it is.
Pension £11502 a year (221.20 a week) so no pension credit, no WFA
Rent 7200 (£600 a month)
Council tax £1500 a year
Energy £1400 a year
TV licence £169.50 a year
Telephone £250 a year
Left £982.50 a year
£18.89 a week for food, who can live on that?
A pensioner on these comments said her pension is 9000 pounds a year, and that is WITH credits.
@@MiWri Older pensioners are on the old style pension that is lower than the "new" pension by quite a bit. This in itself is a disgrace.
I’ve just cancelled my tv licence so saving that money for my heating
Illegals get that much in pocket money to spend on themselves. they don't have to pay rent, council tax, energy, TV, phone, or food
I sympathise with you. It's not fair.
THE LABOUR PARTY ARE FINISHED NOW, GET STARMER OUT
And how do you think that is to be done? All excrpt one were supporting him.
@@ladygardener100no sense in Ur comment
I agree get Starmer out
How, the majority of the Brits voted Labour.
@@OINK2-wc7yi 20% of those eligible to vote for him did so. That is not a majority
Why dont we ask the king ????? time he stood up for us
HE WONT AS HES A FOUNDER MEMBER OF THE WEF
I fed up with listening to the PM ....he needs to go ...I didn't vote for Labour ...
no one did new liemore was installed just like bidin in 2020 was
@@andrekertesz9895 I was at the count. What got me from the start was all the Labour lot were grinning like Cheshire cats even from the start of the count as if they knew in advance what the result was going to be.
@@Pythonaria it's not he who votes that counts, but he who counts the votes, that determines the outcome of an election,
you have lived in a two-party dictatorship for a long time,
even reform are just another part of the same whole,
in roman mythology this is where the concept of a "Hydra" came from, an unkillable beast with many heads, and where you decapitate one head, two more takes it's place,
our government, is a dark beast indeed,
I wasn't at the count but l was also laughing because the Tories didn't get in. The worst government we have ever had.@@Pythonaria
@@SybilJohnson-k3p don't think so we will rise up from the hell that was the Tories.
PURE EVIL
May all who voted for this live very long lives in extreme poverty.
@@eyesopen1850 you sound like a Tory
And if we have a cold winter I hope those Labour MP’s are never able to forget what they have done.
Feeling the autumnal chill in the evenings already 😔
I think we're in for not only a cold winter but an early one. My cats started shedding their summer coats a month ago. They usually don't do that until the end of September. The squirrels have already taken the pears off my tree and that's early for them. Keep an eye on nature as that is usually a good indicator of what is to come weatherwise.
On what planet would anyone think it’s ok to give train drivers already on a very large salary a £10k pay rise whilst taking away winter fuel allowance from OAP’s with an income of just £13k and over, it’s shameful.
The unions pull Starmer and Labours strings. They always have. Starmer is a Trotskyite at heart always has been. This country will be like Venezuela by the time he has finished. I wish people would research who they vote for before doing so.
It seems to are being governed by aliens.
I’m sick of them whining for more money. They get paid quite enough for an easy and enjoyable job, compared to a lot of other “hard work” vocations….
Labour have always robbed Peter to pay Paul. That’s how they budget. #muppets 🙄🙄🙄
Just over £13,000! My pension is just over £9, 000 , a year as on the full basic pension , as born before 1953 and that includes a top up of Pension credit of £650 .00 a year . If i recieved over thirteen grand i would not need the winter fuel payment at all .
@@sunshine-qk8qe are you happy then for the train drivers to be given an extra £10k a year whilst taking money out of your pocket to pay for it?
The labour government is the worst we’ve ever had in history to punish old people which Starmer is doing, get rid of him quick.
Those MP’s who supported this should be named and shamed.
fully agree
If the heating allowance is means tested then MPs don't need it
Cut the millions spent on keeping migrants in hotels
We will never forget
52 cowards.
Nigel for PM , lets get rid of the current circus.
@@seanhayes2110 well there's five clowns in reform
Absolutely disgusting shame on starmer and reeves
they have no shame
Keir Starmer is even more COLD hearted than Harold Shipman.
Starmer, Starmer the Pensioner Harmer!
Both of them certain tribe members 🤔
Both of them follow a certain cult 🤔
give us a proper pension then we would not need a winter fuel payment
I watched the parliamentary debate and the Labour speakers made me want to throw up. What a vile lot they are.
"Black Hole" 10 Downing Street
You mean between Starmer's ears ?
A black hole can never be 'plugged' - the more you feed it the bigger it grows. Labour policies in a nutshell...
@@MsStack42 🤣🤣🤣
Brill 😂😂😂
Pay in all your life and GET NOTHING!!
Then when you pass away they take more from you 🤬
I think it is Disgusting that ANY MP's Are Allowed to Claim Expenses on Heating their homes With TAX PAYERS MONEY ???
I don't think they have to spend any of there actual salary....
They ALL Claim Everything they Can Get Legally or Illegally, ie: Corruption Springs to mind !!!
Abstaining, means ,i don’t agree, but i am too gutless and spineless to say anything?
Wow…you couldnt have said it any clearer
Correct.
That’s what I put on ‘X’ but I put it as “so 52 didn’t have the balls to face up to Starmer’.
starmer will always be remembered for this evil deed along with his laccies,ex labour voter.
U.K. voters …
Just wake up and never vote LibLabCon ever again
Reform party ARE the future 👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I sent a very long letter to my local MP John Trickett last week to ask him to represent what his constituents want instead of following the party line. He did just that. I congratulate John for being the ONLY LABOUR MP to have the balls to vote for what he believed in
Well done you!
He'll probably be sacked by 2TK. If so, he should join Reform. Seems this man has something rare for a Labour MP - integrity and honour.
Ex-MP???
@@Pythonaria I think he will certainly be ‘punished’ by Starmer - maybe lose the whip? Like the others
@@nialloneill5097 probably 🙄
im 68 and stopping the winter fuel payment i feel im being discriminated against why is nobody taking this up
Starmer's father the tool maker he was the biggest tool he made
Starmerz father owned the Tool Making Factory He famousky said hd worked as a toolmaker for 6 mths....no! He worked in his fathers factory for 6 months😂
A knob
I cannot listen to the dreadful Labour man.
u voted for em so dont wanna hear a peep outta yo mouth
Lol😂
I didn't and not all pensioners are rich and don't need it, they could just have put up tax by a penny or so on those who have 40% tax rate as they "can" afford it!?!
The puppet,has done what the puppet masters wanted. They knew this was going to cause outrage.keeps the focus off the boats what a disgrace.
@@theresamaysupportsISIS Chess is definitely not your game. . .
Labour always take away from the deserving and give to those who have done nothing for this country. Stop funding Hamas/Gazans and illegal immigrants.
Absolutely disgusting labour are hated now
I hated them when Blair was in power. They are worthless trash!
What infuriates me is that MPs cheered when they won the vote
Yea because it was the right outcome . You live in England not Antarctic , pay your own winter fuel bill and if you can’t run a better budget
@@thepete129you are a complete clown they say theres always one well congrats you are it today
Cut the mps fuel allowance then
Yet THEY keep THEIR $3000 odd fuel payment. Grow upmyou selfish knob @@thepete129
Tosser@@thepete129
The Labour Party and conservatives are dead to me now, I will never vote for them again. REFROM IS THE WAY FORWARD 🏴🇬🇧👊🏻
Pension are the worst in Europe already
Starmer and Labour will pay for this 💯😡😡😡
Yrs
Watch this space
Labour will not exist any more in the future
Yours Brtish citizen 1960
Ps
What happened to education education education
From Labour
This is your product
Not the brightest bulb
Must be millions like this clown
No wonder uk sinking like the titanic
And we dont have any life boats
Migrates have our life boats incase they need to go back home
It not rocket science
I hope & pray Labour lose every seat in the local elections
Why? Rich pensioners shouldn't be getting fuel payments that could be used elsewhere
@@aaronaaronson7600What on? Housing illegal immigrants?
@aaronaaronson7600 you're picture says it all 😂😂😂
All of the Labour MPs who have voted in favour or only abstained should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves
52 abstained. Only abstained? How about against!
52 shit out.
Abstained or cowards
Too scared of their leader because he said he will have their whip removed if they vote against his decision. Acting like a communist leader.
Lily livered yes men (and women).
They were probably drunk in the bar!
As a muslim that ww2 veteran should not been ashamed of his country personally i believe the veteran should get special treatment since HE RISKED HIS LIFE FOR THE COUNTRY
Well said.
Who cares if you're a mslm why even mention it?
@@outpost31737we all know why, I can't believe he mentioned that, I bet the mosks get there heating bills paid by us tax payers
@@outpost31737To show that there are Muslims who care
@@outpost31737because that person representing good Muslim people. Not the scum that claim to be muslim
I hope I will never never never see the LABOUR PARTY IN GOVERNMENT EVER EVER EVER AGAIN, THAIR SALE BY DATE IS OVER FOR GOOD.
The walking obscenity R.Reeves is my MP. I'm happy to say I voted Reform in the GE and will continue to do so.
Your right
Hope at the May election everyone votes her out. They are committing manslaughter on the elderly and should be charged for that. The Lords get £350.00 a day just to sit in the warm place, cheap meals and drink. Hopefully that waste of money will help the new party to pay the elderly.
@@stevemorley5748 and she has just put in a £4,000 expenses bill for fuel. Her husband is an A & E doctor so won't be struggling.
This is why Nigel needs to be running our Country, he mixes with all sections of our society, and always speaks the truth.
The system they rule us by is so so so corrupt & pathetic dinosaur 🦕 system
But he don't have any plans that's what scares me. He ran away after Brexit tells us what's wrong but no plans to fix things
😀 😃 😄 😁 😆
How about stopping the ELEVEN BILLION POUNDS we give away in foreign aid, we have to borrow that money and pay interest on it, the interest alone would pay the winter heating allowance ! Charity begins at home.
As a pensioner
The Labour party will never be forgiven
Especially whilst wasting tax payers money elsewhere
REFERENDUM on Mass Immigration
What happened to the phrase "respect your elders"? Pensioners and children are the most vulnerable in society, absolutely disgusting
this is just a start. wait for it.
Its just EVIL.
Alot of people will not vote for Labour ever again, over this.
If they survive ....
Yes never again I voted for them an sorry
This is just the tip of the iceberg they will look at state pension next to see if you need that.
Is there no way we can get this labour out of power before the next 4 years ???
@psclark2416 But the majority fell for their manifesto and voted. Too late now.
@@WeAreWatchingU Yes but this wasn't in their manifesto was it? Makes me wonder what else they have in store for us. Take away our bus passes perhaps? They are doing these things now because they know they can't face any consequences at the ballot box for 4 years, by which time a lot of today's pensioners will no longer be with us and the government is hoping the ones that are will have forgotten about the winter fuel allowance.
@@WeAreWatchingUI do wish someone could tell us a way!!! They’re all policies that weren’t in their manifesto.
@BoingBB Exactly! They have gone against it and people believed what they heard.
Labour Manifesto 2024:
"Second, that if you work hard then - whoever you are, wherever you started in life - Britain is a country that will respect your contribution and give you a fair chance to get on"
AND
"This manifesto is that plan. Fully costed, fully funded - built on a rock of fiscal responsibility."
Seems like things are not as they promised.
@@WeAreWatchingUjust wait till the budget , you ain’t seen nothing yet , how did the song go , There May troubles ahead ! 😮
Your Labour Party is so far from what traditional Labour stood for, it is an abomination. Why any working class would vote for them, as it clearly is working against their interests.
Indeed. The Workers Party are the party with the most support that represent the interests of the working class now.
@@myzenlifeinnature
The British Labour Party was always affiliated to European Socialism.
While we were fighting a Cold War against it.
They always vote against their self interest. They are the thick common conservative underclass.
Labour voters must be very pleased with their choice.
Not me 😂😂
I was one am sorry help age this winter
My Labour MP voted with the government even though we have a high proportion of pensioners in my area! I re-looked at her election speech where she pledged to serve her constituents. Great start to her first (and last) term! This betrayel will not be forgotten nor forgiven!
So did mine, here in the North East, where the evenings are now noticeably chilly.
@@annscanlan8136 our Labour MP is my cousin and I can't believe he voted to take away the Winter Fuel Allowance to pensioners like me and my husband. We have worked since we were 15 and 16 respectively and retired aged 68.
This is Labour's fatal error and it will become more apparent when the public sees the reality of the consequences for struggling pensioners. Time for change as our system is clearly corrupt.
Revolution is the way
All pensioners should note which MP's voted for this measure. And next time vote accordingly !
National Living Wage is £11.44 per Hour. Based on a 39 Hour Week that works out at £446 per Week. Or £23,200 per Year. State Pension is HALF OF THAT AMOUNT. Does that mean anyone on the State Pension isnt expected to have the Same Life Style. As someone on the Governments Living Wage. That is what the Government are telling Everyone is the Minimum You Need To Live On Today. 95% of Pensioner on Basic Full State Pension are Above the Pension Credit Level of £218 Quid a Week. Because Full State Pension Today is £221 per Week. This Stinks very badly as a Set Up for the OAPs
They couldn't live on a pension,let them try it
Immigrants will be fed and warm, and pensioners will be out in the cold this winter, when they saved this country during the war years. I bet the MPs will be warm too, shame on them.
saved us?
they are the reason why we have what we currently do,
this is a classic case of, "careful what you wish for"
they sold us out, after eating up propaganda and stirring the bloodiest war the worlds ever seen,
who got to experience the economic booms after the war? that nice little golden era?
who squandered that and kept it for themselves driving up inflation and debt economy?
that's right the pensioners did!
why is homelessness so high? because the pensioners are not good people,
they condemned us, not saved us,
still, i dont wish them any harm beyond the realisation of their actions,
MPs will be nice and cosy. An income most people can only dream of. Yet still claim heating allowance for their SECOND home. Classic hypocrisy.
Labour have exposed their incompetence by pushing this cut in fuel payments. All they had to do is give a slightly lower wage increase to the public sector and train drivers, that would have allowed them to retain the winter fuel payment. Having failed to do this it exposes their political incompetence and how heartless they are.
“I agree” 100%
About 15% less than what they gave accross the board. Even a 12.5% reduction in foreign aid would have paid for it. So far, they've pledged an additional 9.4 billion a year in public service salaries and cut 1.4 billion from the fuel allowance payments. Makes you wonder how they're meant to be filling the "black hole" when before the budget is even released, they've spent more than they've saved.
They wont get a second term, they are already finished
Or cut foreign aid to other countries. That's 12.8billion.
It is not incompetence it's totally deliberate.
This is the most callous and abhorrent thing to do to our elderly so distressing.
Bless this British Hero
Come on Nigel where is ur fight gone stand up for us the people who helped you into parliament. Stand up for us