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Elite: Dangerous - "Flight Assist Off Training" Beginner Proficiency #1

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  • Опубліковано 14 сер 2024

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  • @biglogie680
    @biglogie680 4 роки тому +339

    i feel like this man is my sensei and the space station is my dojo

  • @MLB9000
    @MLB9000 6 років тому +219

    Awesome vid. Reminds me of learning to fly a helicopter. My instructor would often get me to fly out to the ‘H’ which was in the centre of a big circle of mowed grass in the middle of the airfield and fly around it with the nose of the aircraft pointing inwards. Then he’d make me switch up to hovering the other way and flying with the tail facing the middle of the circle. This was all made a bit more challenging by the fact that the wind would push you around quite a bit and any corrective input on the controls always required a counter input on the other two controls. As you mentioned the trick was to make very small inputs which required smaller corrections.

  • @Neutronic01
    @Neutronic01 6 років тому +168

    You gotta give credit to those who use FA off all the time. These guys really understand how normal ships would work in space.

    • @brnddi
      @brnddi 5 років тому +56

      Except for the whole maximum speed part :-)

    • @noosebrother
      @noosebrother 5 років тому +12

      i have the spatial awareness of a potato so FAon by default XD

    • @ryanbroos5143
      @ryanbroos5143 5 років тому

      @@noosebrother 🤣

    • @thfreakinacage
      @thfreakinacage 5 років тому +10

      @@brnddi Anybody else been playing long enough to remember the FAO boost trick? They removed this a while back but your ship has a maximum speed right, and then a maximum boost speed. When you boost, the ship returns to normal max speed. In older versions you could boost, then turn flight assist off and you'd hold that boost speed until you turn it on again.

    • @Jordan-pk8mp
      @Jordan-pk8mp 5 років тому +35

      @@thfreakinacage that's how space actually works.. technically there should be no max speed for ships. just acceleration differences.

  • @DerekMoore82
    @DerekMoore82 5 років тому +17

    People who have no experience with this don't realise the skill that's on display here, wow. But what I really wanted to remark on is how good your presentation is: cinematography for the recording, sound quality etc.

  • @thalesank
    @thalesank 5 років тому +77

    This gameplay style adds sooooo much to the game; the feeling of really being in almost complete control of the ship makes every little flight maneuver an achievement, and this tutorial is helping me enjoy this aspect so much more. Thanks man.

    • @nunyabusiness8538
      @nunyabusiness8538 4 роки тому +3

      the flying in this game kicks every other space sims ass so much 😂

    • @XxsteamerxX
      @XxsteamerxX 3 роки тому +2

      Making me rethink my bindings. Having played only just under 1000hrs, I've been wanting to go FAO for some time. I've only gotten to landing on some low G planets, but I still use FA on to get it stabilized most times. I also would do FAoff in asteroid rings to search for mother lodes because I could boost then swing my ship around in several directions while scanning to find as many as possible in the time I was looking. But I would cheat by gliding just above or below the plane of the belt so I wouldn't have to dodge all those nasty rocks.
      Like I said I will have to rethink some bindings because my head look analogue is the same as my thruster lateral/vertical (no track IR). I do have another analogue that only has thrust forward and back on it that I can swap for head-look and just use the other analogue for thrust lateral/vertical which in turn I can just use the main throttle for thrust forward/back like I have it set for anyway, I just use the analogue during landing in stations because it always returns to zero. I'm going to start practicing more.

    • @XxsteamerxX
      @XxsteamerxX 3 роки тому +2

      ...And this is what I thought I would be doing when I first got this game. I fully intended to go FAoff right away thinking it wouldn't be that hard... Boy was I wrong. Gonna get back into it

    • @XxsteamerxX
      @XxsteamerxX 3 роки тому +1

      Been a little over a month and I am proud to say that I am 99.89% FA Off. It was very hard at first but muscle memory kicks in after a while and my brain has adjusted to making small adjustments instead of constantly over correcting.
      I don't think I even went through all of your proficiency before I really got the hang of it. I flew to San Tu, bought a Sidewinder and crashed around a bit until I started to get nausious. I started to dream in FA Off. So I took about a week off. When I came back to it and started to just mine and collect mats for engineering an exploring Phantom I realized that I was already doing it.
      I'm landing better... even on a 1.3G planet that I didn't take the time to take note of. I kissed the ground, recovered and landed with 11% hull. THAT'S A WIN. I'm still not nearly as smooth as our sensei here. But the only time I turn it on is when collecting mats from High emissions drop zones (dropping the session and rejoining brings you back in FA On. I found it faster to just leave it until that site times out.)

    • @XxsteamerxX
      @XxsteamerxX 3 роки тому +1

      My re-binding worked like a charm. Much better than before. The throw on the Virpil throttle is larger than all the other throttles I had before, and I have the controls chair mounted instead of desk mounted so I decided to go throttle forward and reverse instead of forward only using a button option to switch to reverse. This gives me only half the range and I can still use all the buttons and switches comfortably on the throttle.

  • @korrectmethod
    @korrectmethod 3 роки тому +9

    Learning FA off is difficult but it's nice when it "clicks" in your head. I had a few moments like that. I went from tumbling through space, to tumbling in space but in the right direction, to over controlling so it looked like a mad drunk person trying to dock, to finally realizing small corrections and just relaxing on the controls overall made for a swan like grace.

  • @TheGodEmperorOfMankind_
    @TheGodEmperorOfMankind_ 4 роки тому +34

    Man you make it seem so simple, following the outer ring of the station I always drift away then I over correct and smack on the station.
    *EDIT:* After sticking with it for a few days I am starting to get the hang of it, I found that flying the length of the station and going between the struts (yes the space is massive between them) makes it more fun after you get bored of the tethering exercises and if you smack against the station and spin around it's good practice for regaining control. Also shows you how important lateral/vertical thrusters are

    • @XxsteamerxX
      @XxsteamerxX 3 роки тому

      That's what I found. When I got bored with the exercises, I just went and did things I needed to do like mine for a mission or engineer a ship and go to different planets trying to land. After, I would fly nap of the earth for a while and through canyons before taking off back up into space. Couple times I boosted straight into the surface to go KaBlammo but it taught me my limits. Combat is infintely better, even though I don't prefer combat, but I found I don't lose the ship from my sights anymore.

  • @sym667
    @sym667 3 роки тому +11

    I've been playing the game for a few days and I didn't even know that there was such a feature you could switch off, but having studied physics, it seems to me the only sensible way to play it, now! Thanks also to your really nice guide! Thanks a lot!

    • @BoardGameClub
      @BoardGameClub 3 роки тому +3

      Once you go back to FA On, it’s like you’re flying in a straight jacket

  • @JohnJonesRocketCity
    @JohnJonesRocketCity 6 років тому +38

    I’m fixing to buy elite dangerous and I have a strong background with flight sim and fpv racing and I currently have rudder pedals and thrustmaster warthog hotas. This video answers a lot of questions I had about the flight model and how much freedom that model provides. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!

    • @XxsteamerxX
      @XxsteamerxX 3 роки тому +1

      Next on my wishlist are a set of rudders. I use a twist grip on the Kosmsima VKB grip. Use it a lot. I feel it would be a lot easier on a set of rudder pedals. But the realism is what I bought ED for. Enjoying my new found freedom of FAOff for a little over a month now. Now when I do use FAOn, if find it so stiff an unforgiving. I actually hate it.

    • @adamw.8579
      @adamw.8579 2 роки тому +1

      This flight sim habits are also my problem. Flight with FA is very similar to aircraft behavior ... FAO is very different pair of shoes. Full Newton physics.

  • @cmdrelizamcdougal6914
    @cmdrelizamcdougal6914 3 роки тому +4

    Greetings, Cmdr. Hobbs!
    Finally I have to gratulate to this marvelous FAOff-Training-Series! You are my flight-instructor, who really tought me how to fly without flight assist and it really works! Really great work!
    Everytime, someone in my squadron asks me, how I managed to fly without FA, I recommend your video-series. So far no complains came back. ;)
    Thank you so much for introducing us into the "Magic of FAOff"!!! A totally new and natural flight-experience!

    • @moxenwolf1020
      @moxenwolf1020  3 роки тому

      Thank you Commander McDougal. Glad you’re enjoying it!

  • @boyohazard
    @boyohazard 3 роки тому +1

    *Watches episode of Battlestar Galactica*
    "Ah! Now those Vipers don't have Flight Assist at all! I can do that!"
    *Hops into Viper in Elite Dangerous*
    COVAS: "Flight assist off"
    *Spins wildly out of control, crashes into everything and is sent to insurance screen*
    COVAS: "Flight Assist on"
    And now I am here watching your video series!

  • @ArtTiller
    @ArtTiller 5 років тому +2

    Wolf, You brought a smile to my face this evening. Watching your FA off training took me right back days as a check airman for a very large helicopter company. Flying the Agusta 109E helicopter is a big challenge for the average pilot with SAS off. (Stability Augmentation System) Most are uncomfortable flying and hovering with SAS off. I always made it a point to teach my students to hover and maneuver with SAS off. Sideways, backwards, pivot the tail rotor about a point. That sort of thing. You were doing exactly the same thing in your video. OUTSTANDING!

  • @CMDRArsenCross
    @CMDRArsenCross 7 років тому +20

    This is easily the best FAO tutorial that I have seen. I love the separation into specific exercises. I look forward to seeing more content from you.

  • @marcustullius6680
    @marcustullius6680 6 років тому +11

    After 3k+ hours in this game, all ranks, ships, engineering mods etc., I just made my first FA off landing on station and I feel myself like a complete noob :) Thanks guys. BTW landing on rotating station was much easier with heavy combat fitted Anaconda than with smaller ships. The mass of the ship forgives a lot of mistakes.

    • @selfactualizer2099
      @selfactualizer2099 8 місяців тому

      Medium and up is easy for fa off,
      But a sidewinder that can't be hit is dangerous

  • @mrhumans6453
    @mrhumans6453 7 років тому +8

    I was following along thinking, man I have the basics down well enough. Then you blew my mind with the last two asteroid exercises. And this is video one... Good stuff.

  • @kevinhewitt6134
    @kevinhewitt6134 3 роки тому +1

    Cheers for making this guide I turned f.a off last night and now i know where im going wrong

  • @Maniac3020
    @Maniac3020 6 років тому +17

    I find picking up stuff with my cargo scoop with FA off is great practice for the fine inputs needed for such flying. I can't do it in combat yet, but I can reliably dock at a spinning station without much difficulty.
    I use a dual joystick with pedals setup. Configuring the toe brakes for "Flight Thrust" allows me to make small FA off inputs without moving my hand to my throttle, and having two full joysticks allows finer precision.
    I found a program called Joystick Curves, it really helps with the small inputs, and reduces overcorrection.
    It's also improved my handling of interdictions, as I tend to flail a bit during those.

  • @adamgerald849
    @adamgerald849 Місяць тому +1

    I love how much depth there is to this game. I wish I'd started playing years ago at its peak.

    • @DNH17
      @DNH17 Місяць тому

      For whatever reasons I share the same perception of you , but it is great to start right now. I am. in last months started playing in co-op with RP and it's great. With all the accent on depth and complexity.

  • @curryinahurry3730
    @curryinahurry3730 4 роки тому +4

    This is awesome. Just doing these exercises for a few minutes made me way more capable of controlling my ship in fao, especially in combat. Feels like a whole new game.

  • @TheAlcoholic27
    @TheAlcoholic27 5 років тому +3

    It's people like you that make the ED community so great. Thank you for sharing.

  • @JonAcostaArt
    @JonAcostaArt 4 роки тому +22

    Duuuuude....I'm a professional concept artist / illustrator who plays ED. When I'm working, I keep UA-cam running in the background, often on ED videos. I've run the Obsidian and Yamiks gamuts as well as a ton of others....started running out of ED topics to keep my brain running during art production. Today, I came across your channel and your excellent training videos! I used to play Eve and there were some great folks dedicated to training new combat players in-game but I always thought this game needs that badly. I'm a dedicated explorer (for past 4 years), half way through Pioneer rank now with the intent of picking up combat after Elite exploration rank. Your videos are so professionally narrated, succinct and eloquent. I've ALWAYS wanted to become a FAO pilot so I can't wait to employ your videos soon as I start dedicating time to combat. Cheers!
    Btw, just a bit of silly talk here: if you try to pronounce "FAO" in Spanglish, it sounds like "feo" which means "ugly" lol
    CMDR JonAcosta www.artstation.com/jacosta

  • @andysonofbob2599
    @andysonofbob2599 7 років тому +6

    Superb!
    I love the use of 'tethering' the ship to rotating objects. A great why to get the feel for the ship in FA Off.

  • @beowulfschmidt6031
    @beowulfschmidt6031 7 років тому +1

    This is very helpful. The notion of divorcing oneself from the notion that where the ship points is where one is going is one of the most useful I've heard so far. Subscribed on the basis of this video alone. :)

    • @moxenwolf1020
      @moxenwolf1020  7 років тому +1

      Thank you! I'm hoping to have the next video for this series or next week. I need to do some graphics for it to explain some of the concepts. Thank you again for your comment.

  • @phuturephunk
    @phuturephunk 4 роки тому +1

    Nicely done! I like the fact that FA off essentially brings real physics (mostly) back into play when you don't have a 'down' defined by a gravity well.

  • @reptar1098
    @reptar1098 3 роки тому +1

    Just started, I've been playing this for 2 weeks non stop. This is so cool

  • @collincivish8962
    @collincivish8962 Рік тому

    Half a decade later, I would just like to thank you for this wonderful resource. I'm looking forward to putting these exercises to good use once I get back to my HOTAS. It's a nearly a crime these videos don't have more views and likes. They'd be EXCELLENT for the community.

  • @Element0145
    @Element0145 3 роки тому +1

    Your transitions are legit 👌

  • @replay_pete
    @replay_pete 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you sir. It was kind of easy to understand that for me though as I already have some experience playing Kerbal Space Program. I didn't even know that all these Newtonian laws do work in Elite too. I love it!

  • @Veebat
    @Veebat 4 роки тому +1

    Hey man I know this is two years old and all but I have just returned to the game after four years and have been using your training. This type of flying has changed the feel of this game entirely and I feel Way more in tune with my ships in just the past week of running these early exercises. I even started filming some of my training. I sure do bounce off the station a lot at first but I can feel certain skills melting into intuition. Thanks for this.

  • @marcmacinnis6610
    @marcmacinnis6610 5 років тому +2

    I'm hooked, this is a completely different game for me now. GREAT tutorials it really explained it and got me in the headspace for doing this

  • @JustinC._
    @JustinC._ 5 місяців тому

    Six year old video but new for me. Im a beginner to Elite, only a few weeks of playing. This is extremely helpful. Thanks for sharing.

  • @DanutSoare
    @DanutSoare 7 років тому +2

    This is the one of the best tutorial in ED I ever seen. I'll wait for the next next one.

  • @davidpetrol7870
    @davidpetrol7870 3 роки тому +1

    Perfect trainer voice. I'll give it a shot 😃

  • @astroknott5877
    @astroknott5877 5 років тому +1

    Thanks so much for these tutorials. I have been playing Elite for a couple years now and I feel like a new player going through the exercises. Still trying to master a lot of this. My dogfighting has improved considerably already.

  • @IsraeliDino
    @IsraeliDino Рік тому

    Dude, you are amazing...seriously.
    Clear and concise explanations, masterful ability and demonstration, I really would not be surprised to hear you are a flight instructor or instructor in general of some sorts in the real world! Heck, I'd count on it!
    Simply exemplar, stellar teaching.
    Hahaha thanks so much for the video series, can't wait to improve my FAO flying with my new twin stick setup!

  • @mannydib
    @mannydib 6 років тому +1

    Great video. You're a natural at making informative videos with a clear calming voice.
    Its always nice to find gaming videos without that obnoxious fake enthusiasm ( "HEY GUYS, HUH HUH, WHATS UP! WERE GONNA LEARN FA OFF TODAY WOO HOO!!!") thats too comon IMHO
    Keep up the good work.

  • @Monody512
    @Monody512 6 років тому +11

    I really love the newtonian and non-facing-dependent moving aspects of FAO, and I’d totally use it… except it’s impossible with a mouse.
    Wish I could disable translational assist but keep rotational.

  • @SgtAwesome97
    @SgtAwesome97 Рік тому

    Watching this to get a better grasp on cold orbiting in regards to ax combat, and the more I watch these FA off videos, the more I realize SC got it right with the vector indicator.

  • @moldiworp9143
    @moldiworp9143 5 років тому

    That tethering... what the absolute fuck, that was incredibly smoooooth. That in itself was indicative of amazing talent. Good job, Commander.

  • @bedrockraptor5534
    @bedrockraptor5534 4 роки тому +18

    well... I did this in a T10, it didn't go well

  • @deminted4ever
    @deminted4ever 6 років тому +2

    Wow one of the best ED tutorial vids.. Thanks man! Nicely done.. I am a noib to this game.. I will be watching all of these vids but will revisit when i feel ready for this.. I am such a noob only been play about 2 weeks but feel i am learning pretty quickly. First of all i DID do training missions first and i also watched youtube begginner tutorials about basics for UI and controls and Navigation etc..
    Thanks so much for you and off tubers like you helping the ED community thrive!

    • @moxenwolf1020
      @moxenwolf1020  6 років тому

      Thank you for the comment deminted4ever! It means a lot to me to hear that I'm helping.

    • @Wylie288
      @Wylie288 6 років тому

      So you are alive! You have plans on making intermediate videos or are those still something you just want to do?

  • @DustySquitoNM
    @DustySquitoNM 4 роки тому

    Holy crap, this is awesome. I've seen some combat tutorials that quickly brushed on the "FA/OFF" thing, but never something that was as thorough as this. I can't wait to check out the rest of them.

  • @PurpleFringe
    @PurpleFringe 7 років тому +2

    Excellent. Practising this will give me a whole new dimension for ED.

  • @jaybruce593
    @jaybruce593 6 років тому

    I play elite in VR with a dual stick setup I am developing modifying a pair of VKB Gladiator MK2's which have twist axis' this giving me six axis under my two hands. I'm triple elite and I'm now starting to play with FAOFF and last night was the first I tried these exercises in my vulture, and I found it very very soothing. Afterwards I kept getting little flashbacks like you do when you spend the night with a new girl, your tutorials are changing 100% FAOFF from something that intimidates me to something that relaxes me, thank you so much for these.

  • @LordBifMusic
    @LordBifMusic 6 років тому +2

    I discovered FA Off recently and I can't believe I missed that feature for that long, I feel I'm discovering the game for the second time, and I love that feeling. I just got myself a good joystick, perfect time to learn more about FA Off. I can't imagine to do everything like that for now, especially dog fights, but your videos are surely excellent to learn more about it and practice at least. Great work CMDR!

    • @moxenwolf1020
      @moxenwolf1020  6 років тому +2

      Thank you Lord Bif Music!

    • @jackofallgods7764
      @jackofallgods7764 6 років тому

      mouse and keyboard will be more accurate and smooth with fa off. In settings turn on relative mouse for x and y axis and increase that to mid to high on the sensitivity. Its horrible control in super cruise and with fa on but before switching it back turn fa off and see how easy it is to fly in it. Its effortless almost for average skilled pilot. But once you go into supercruise your pitch and yaw will be horrible

  • @satoriwabisabi
    @satoriwabisabi 2 роки тому

    This video is the best video about how to fly better. i dont doubt these exercises will make anyone a much much better pilot. Thank you.

  • @ianyboo
    @ianyboo 5 років тому +1

    You just blew my mind I've been playing for months and didn't even know this was possible I can't wait to get home and try it!
    It kind of reminds me of flying my Quadcopter in Acro mode as opposed to self level. Hopefully the skills Translate...

  • @sidrat2009
    @sidrat2009 3 роки тому +1

    This is a great way to make Elite Dangerous Fun Again. This is flying mastery at its core.
    Perhaps a toggle button to switch between analogue directional thrusters would be a good idea?
    Also the YT algorithm is really slow as I should have seen this video in 2018 at least. Regardless I've not even dabbled in flight assist off outside of combat and that's only because the AI usually likes to play jousting games unless you can get a good lateral sweep on them to remain on target. Yes I turn FA back on once in sight again, if they're still alive after a few passes I've already got their pattern and am orbiting them until they blow up.
    Which is a lot easier now I'm flying an engineered Fed Corvette with beam lasers.
    I really hope you're still playing and your community is awesome.

    • @moxenwolf1020
      @moxenwolf1020  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you! And yeah I just started up again after a couple year hiatus.

  • @gammarage3535
    @gammarage3535 3 роки тому

    Thank you man! I’ve been playing for years and I’ve been missing this. Once I started going PVP I realized flight assist off is essential. I have much to learn. When I head home I’m grabbing my sentimental sidewinder and getting to work.

  • @jowilson5581
    @jowilson5581 5 місяців тому

    I've dabbled in FA off here and there but was never very good at it. tonight I got a wild hair and started seriously drilling using this series. I was able to tether to a station rock solid after about an hour of practice, and it sounds silly but it's the most fun I've had with elite to date. lol
    I'll be drilling at the San Tu tunnels next! very good vids

  • @sawyerlawler2489
    @sawyerlawler2489 6 років тому +1

    So essentially FAOFF = Tokyo drift In space... that's fucking awesome. Great video! I'm getting the game on ps4 soon and this is gonna be a huge help

  • @PeglegNav
    @PeglegNav 5 років тому

    Dude hands down one of the best training videos I've seen for F.A.O. cant wait to learn more.

  • @themindset4164
    @themindset4164 4 роки тому +2

    0:32-0:41 dude that's so cool, this is why I love this game

  • @MJohnnyN
    @MJohnnyN 4 роки тому +1

    Hey, your bird is beautiful, CMDR. I can't watch the entire video at the moment, (Will later) but really, that Sidewinder is purrrrty.

  • @lb21a
    @lb21a Рік тому +2

    "Newton's Gambit" i really like that

  • @sombient
    @sombient 3 роки тому +1

    Look, I realize this video is 3 years old... but I've only been flying for a few weeks now.... And after watching the flight in "Green Elk" I realized I was missing out on something in Elite. I'm about to log in and the first thing I'm doing is turning FA off and am going to spend the night learning my orbits.

  • @lakebenjamin3491
    @lakebenjamin3491 7 років тому +1

    This video is absolutely perfect. As soon as i get done with my stuff today i'm going to do everything talked about.

  • @matfly4832
    @matfly4832 2 місяці тому +1

    Every time I hit that button, I feel like I drank 60 oz of Tequila and just stood up too suddenly.

  • @drumbri
    @drumbri 2 роки тому +1

    New sub new player- Thank you for your time and talent. This is an amazing and perfect video for me right now. So much to learn in elite dangerous. Your instructional videos are some of the best information I have found. Cheers!🍻

  • @ChristophBurschka
    @ChristophBurschka 2 роки тому

    "We need to clean the solar panels; they're full of Sidewinder again"
    "Dammit, that's the third time this week."

  • @TheHongKongHermit
    @TheHongKongHermit 7 років тому +7

    Excellent video, and lovely presentation. In (checks clock) 4.5 days I finally get into space on PS4, and I'm planning to start out with flight assist off from day one. I may fail at it, but I want to try. Elite Dangerous is the space game I've been waiting my entire life for, so I'd rather put in the extra effort to master it, or explode a lot in the attempt.

  • @thomnath1
    @thomnath1 Рік тому

    This is insane and I really appreciate the skill you’re trying to teach

  • @jb3454
    @jb3454 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the video man. Been about a year since I've played. My ps4 broke a year ago and I finally just bought an xbox one with the hotas one. This video really helped me out

  • @JonTaRW84
    @JonTaRW84 2 роки тому +2

    Super good videos, I'm a keyboard and mouse user and gonna try to learn FAOFF, mainly for combat and my ultimate goal is to learn how to outmanouvering the hardest NPCs with my vulture and F-D-L.
    Are your training forums still active?

  • @thalesank
    @thalesank 4 роки тому

    After 8 months, I've finally bought a Used Thrustmaster HOTAS and now I am ready to start this Course again. I had to give up because my previous Joystick was too old and broken for me to finish this Tutorial. I look forward to Completing this course and joining the squad.

  • @lordzuzu6437
    @lordzuzu6437 3 роки тому

    When I read the wikipedia article about elite I learned about the two game mechanics in elite dangerous, the arcade one and the newtonian mechanics one. That completely blew my mind, and from now on I'll only play flight assist off.

  • @bluidguy4007
    @bluidguy4007 6 років тому

    Honestly, I think flying is the feature I have neglected most in this game, I just got to a good station so I think I'm going to try this next time I get on thank you for the video.

  • @adamross2256
    @adamross2256 3 роки тому

    Recently picked up a x52 HOTAS. I wasn't able to make sense of assist-off with kb/m. With the stick, I feel a lot more connected to the ship. And with that connection, it reminded me of the brief stint I had in helicopter flight school. Especially hearing the cautioning of overcorrection in the video. Very useful information!

  • @johnterpack3940
    @johnterpack3940 3 роки тому +3

    This is the first flight video I've seen that actually offered techniques for practicing. Thanks for that. I can't try it until I get a new joystick though. My current one is soy-based. By which I mean it's hyper-sensitive and leans to the left.

  • @snowylynx36
    @snowylynx36 3 роки тому +1

    This is great. My only training in FAO is flying full tilt through an asteroid field and hoping I make it. maybe I should try this.

  • @smoadia85
    @smoadia85 6 років тому +54

    man Asteroid Gliding reminds me of Expanse when Alex gravity fling Rocinate

    • @hzer12
      @hzer12 5 років тому

      I thought exactly the same :)

    • @Xingmey
      @Xingmey 4 роки тому +1

      The most bullshit scene fron that show.... everything else was spot in. That tour eouldve taken at least 4 months...

  • @cervantes01
    @cervantes01 7 років тому +2

    Awesome video, very informative, I will be watching out for future videos by yourself, well done.

  • @obi1unome
    @obi1unome 7 років тому +2

    Excellent video mate! Looking forward to the next one

  • @wraith444
    @wraith444 6 років тому

    My first time trying flight assist off I was absolutely awful. Then I went into an asteroid field and just sort of danced around between the asteroids. No particular destination, no direction, just maneuvering around between them, sometimes deciding to fly a few circles around one while pointing at the center, other times trying to slot between them while facing "up" or "down" with respect to my direction of travel... The more I did it the more it sort of clicked in my head and it just started to feel natural and right.
    It's been a good couple years since I played E:D, but watching your video and remembering what it felt like hunting bounties in my Viper really makes me want to pick it back up again.

  • @SenseiJacksama
    @SenseiJacksama 5 років тому

    i may not ever be an FA off player 100% of the time like you but i do need to learn FA off for fighting at least. thargoids are very difficult to hit because in FA off my aiming skills are garbage especially when trying to snipe a thargon swarm from 4KM away. Your excercise where we had to orbit the station.... yeah i watched that thinking psht that looks easy AF... nope... nope not easy at all. it was actually very difficult. its good to now have a training excercise to do each day that can help me. after doing that for about 30 minutes i stopped and went mining in my anaconda flipped my FA off and i was really really very surprised at how much more control i had over my ship. im not a complete novice at FA off but im hardly in the realm of good with it either. i look forward to seeing the rest of your videos. thank you for taking the time to post these lessons. o7

  • @CMDR_CWolfxUK
    @CMDR_CWolfxUK 2 місяці тому

    Just set up new channel and pinned this in my Instructional Videos playlist, nice one.

  • @Hotdog6606
    @Hotdog6606 Рік тому

    It might sound counterintuitive, but to me the best way to "ease" into FA off is cold orbiting thargoid interceptors. It doesn't require as much precision but will teach you a lot

  • @AngusThermopyle
    @AngusThermopyle 7 років тому +2

    Excellent! It sure de-mystifies FAO for me a ton. Thanks!

  • @kurushimee
    @kurushimee Рік тому +1

    I might be late, but this is still useful! I'm a combat flight sim fella and want to get into E:D again, this time without FA

  • @RussDnB
    @RussDnB 5 років тому

    Only just seen this. Prior to this video, I only referred to the great Isonona’s FA off tutorials. Excellently described. Subbed.

  • @SonnyinPhx
    @SonnyinPhx 5 років тому

    Outstanding video and outstanding flying skills! This is not something that comes overnight, but with much seat time...I am wanting to start FAO flight, and this video gives a great training guide to learn.

  • @nicolatogni4996
    @nicolatogni4996 6 років тому

    Don't remember exactly how I stumble upon this, but now I definitely want to know about how to train my FAOFF skills, which for now are about 0! Playing Elite since last summer, tried FAOFF last night for the first time and it was both scary and fun! And I must say, when I turned the assist on it was like my ship was placed on some space rails. Weird feeling. I only flew around an Ocellus starport, messing around and flying through its rings.
    Thanks for this great tutorials, I'll surely watch them all and try to learn, I'm also thinking about asking to join the group, but maybe after some practice. Fly safe!

  • @Drawfill
    @Drawfill 3 роки тому

    you've conviced me to give FA off a go. Its a lot easier then I remmember. Thanks for the quality guide! :)

  • @Church_of_the_SubGenius
    @Church_of_the_SubGenius 2 місяці тому

    Your succinct and informative delivery is really amazing. I would love to know your mapping on the X52. I imagine it is extremely efficient. Thank you for your hard work, Commander.

  • @ojciecvaader9279
    @ojciecvaader9279 5 років тому

    I must say I.m shocked but... the training really works... After few hours of trying and fluing wild around the station I think i finally found the right keys configuration... In my case it work better if I reverse directions of thrusters. So instead of pushing the direction in which I want to fly, i press the direction in which my thruster throws out the gas. So i BLOCK movement in that direction rather... And my brain started to catch it :).... And finally I started for some degree to follow a moving part of rotating station [more or less]... It took me 6 hours, but it was worth it :).. I use only keyboard and mouse and turned ON the mouse realive axis. It realy helps... Thanx for this tutorial. .. If you guys see some VERY strange Sidewinder at the station it probably will be me :)

  • @migmindy
    @migmindy 4 роки тому

    you really talk like an actual CFI. it's kinda wiggin me out lol, but it really helps. i appreciate this. the challenge is intense.

  • @fulmetalmage
    @fulmetalmage 6 років тому

    ok, ive had a few beers after work, decided to give this a shot due to videos of thargoid kills. i have xp with kerbal space program, so ive had the basic concepts in my head.... fucked up on leaving the station... fuck it, fa on... got to the ring, fa off, did the excercise, rotated around and shit.... after 5 mins.... ok i need a piss... lets head back fa off.... almost made it through the slot.
    thank you for the vids, cant wait to do more excercises
    edit: however, having a vector indicator that you could toggle off would be very useful. but ill have to learn the way you guys did.

  • @barrycompton8972
    @barrycompton8972 9 місяців тому

    Excellent video. I've seen others that suggest the same thing. One thing I would like to see added is a graphical overlay that shows what thrusters you are using at any one time (if possible)

  • @mhopkins7954
    @mhopkins7954 6 років тому

    This just opened up a whole new tier of game play, thank you. Subbed! o7
    PS just realized an analogy is like a tank and it's turret moving independently one to another that's basically what we're doing with our ships with the assist off. It's the difference between having a car with machine guns mounted to the front versus a Humvee with a machine gunner on top....guess who wins?

  • @Boon-N-Bros
    @Boon-N-Bros 3 роки тому +2

    Bro my long lost people! you guys should fly with us sometime. we have a sidewinder derby club where we deck out sidewinders and go station surfing, racing and tons other other contests, including faoff races and courses! look up the squadron Rope Duckers.

  • @matyi1656
    @matyi1656 3 роки тому +1

    Kerbal Space Program players: heh, they are waking up

  • @redicanprime1181
    @redicanprime1181 4 роки тому

    Great tutorial. Straight to the point with no time wasted. Thx!

  • @BasicShapes
    @BasicShapes 6 років тому +3

    Holy hell! Incredible FAO skills. I want to play Interstellar's Docking Scene music to this. Lol!

  • @Nabekukka
    @Nabekukka 6 років тому +9

    Ok, I just stumbled upon one of Isinona's videos (Beginner's mistakes) and was quite shocked at how good he was with FA OFF, I didn't even realize at first that he's using it as his flying was just so smooth and precise. Then I saw this video on the recommended panel. I've been trying FA OFF a little when I realized what that was and that it was a thing in the game, mostly just on station approaches as it makes it much easier since a lot of the time I drop out of supercruise somewhere behind the station, so keeping the nose of the ship facing the station while flying on a parallel vector makes the whole thing just that much more easier.
    However, that station tethering excercise alone already convinced me that I have to start toying with it a lot more, if I can pull these off with even a reasonable degree of success, I'm gonna have a lot more fun flying.

    • @TheGogofo69
      @TheGogofo69 6 років тому

      Petri Helenius Awesome avatar!

  • @ahhotep1833
    @ahhotep1833 6 років тому +5

    Just what I've been looking for in the area of FA off. I'm on PS4 and Elite Dangerous will arrive wednesday! I decided after watching quite a few 'How To's" to also get the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas4...which arrives today!
    Also, I like your Newton's Gambit group concept and would very much like to join Newton's Gambit as well as the Inara Wing and the groups discord, ofc. All requests to join will be sent this weekend...once I've had some game start alone time with my ship. I intend to start right off with Flight Assist off and will be using your Beginner vids...which are Awesome!
    I thank you and all Commanders in Newton's Gambit and the Inara Wing for providing your time and expertise in helping new Commanders get their space-legs, so to speak.
    New sub here :)

  • @ScottSlooper
    @ScottSlooper 3 роки тому

    This is excellent. Not sure I'm ready for this yet, but I have a feeling this is how these big fat ships are suddenly flipping over and destroying me when I think I've got them by the tail and just going to whittle them down from behind until they're a lump of coal. Or a cloud of mist. Or whatever it is that I actually turn into the moment they flip that big fat thing over and shoot me in the face point blank with 8 hardpoints at the same time.

  • @ikkeheltvanlig
    @ikkeheltvanlig 4 роки тому

    This. I needed this. Elite Dangerous just became God tier

  • @cmdrsoundo5240
    @cmdrsoundo5240 2 роки тому +2

    Cheers. Found these videos. News years 2022 resolotion. learn FA off

  • @EddieFreak
    @EddieFreak 3 роки тому

    i just discovered decoupling in star citizen and i think it’s so cool and i just realized that this is the same thing! Might start flying FAO when odyssey drops

  • @BushPigADV
    @BushPigADV 5 років тому

    As a new guy to the game, this info is GOLD! Thank you.