Queen's Elizabeth's Secret Service Crash Site & La Grange Dredge
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- Опубліковано 3 бер 2018
- Jeff and Sarah continue with "History Hunters" journeys, with this one tracking down where three Secret Servicemen were killed during Queen Elizabeth's 1983 motorcade through the California foothills. They also check out the La Grange Dredge which the Queen and Prince Phillip rolled by en route to Yosemite.
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Thank you very much!
History Hunters no problem it really deserves more views and credit!
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Absolutely true.
La Grange is my hometown...grew up on a ranch on Lake Road just outside of town....I know every inch of the town. Used to actually play on the dredge with my brother as kids. I remember the day and the crash, there were scrapes in the asphalt for a long time until the road was repaved. Eventually the curve was removed, as you know.... There are five generations of my ancestors and current family members buried in the cemetery behind the old school house
By the way...I remember you from high school but we didn't really know each other
Hi. So glad you found our video. So what was the name you went by in high school?
@@jbenziggy Same as my original post .. Laura Ducot
My grandpa worked the dredge. He was interviewed by Huell Howser.
Rick Varain I saw that episode of Huell! Awesome!
How exciting for you Jeff, you were part of that history.
This is one of my favorites. Thank you Sara and Jeff. A t.v. Docu. shows the Sheriff was at blame for speeding. A witness driving behind him said he was speeding and would drift over the double white lines.
I remember visiting the gold dredge back in the late 70’s and early 80’s. We used to drive almost right to it before they put that gate up. I always wondered where that crash site was. I will be sure to stop and visit it next time. Thank you Sarah and Jeff for this video.
Jeff, Sarah that was an awesome video!!! Been through La Grange so many times, wife’s mother lived up above golf course in Don Pedro, been down to the dredge multiple times, climbed aboard it, father in law went to go aboard it slipped and slid all the way down the slope, scared me to death “ how am I going to get him out? He wasn’t hurt, just he’s pride. Jeff, thank you once again for the history lesson! When the office of the courier was downtown, I always wanted to go and meet you, my loss. Looking forward to your next trips!!!
Great video! I think I remember the story. A tragic strange circumstance. When I'm in a place where people have died I have deep thoughts about them and what happened there. The gold dredge was cool. Back then they could just walk away from large machinery like that. Hey, be careful in places like that.
Thanks Dusty! I love making them. I have recovered from the head wound! LOL! Hey, if you would, please subscribe to my channel! I appreciate you watching! More "History Hunters" to come soon!
Tragic history, but neat that you were a part of it. I didn’t even know about this accident. Thanks for sharing
Wow, shows you how clueless I was back then, I didn't know anything about that. Thank you, both for bringing us up to speed! Please keep up the good work!!🤯👌👍
How interesting your history and a history video together. You are right in the intro 'History in not boring'. Thank you both. Best wishes
You are more adventurous than me! Great video as usual. This video and the one on the cemetery in Yosemite have made me more interested in the area.
I was there last week on a bike ride ill be going again next weekend but riding a little slower now so I can take in all this history.. thanks for the lesson
Hello Jeff I used to live in Coulterville when that crash happened I know exactly all of the spots where that happened as far as the gold dredge I petitioned to try and save the gold dredge it didn't happen however I used to fish off of the deck of that gold dredge and caught many bluegill which became dinner later on thank you again I really appreciate what you bring back to life a part of my life of long ago I cherish and Miss to this day the crash of the Secret Service would have never happened had they been driving responsible speeds it was said because of the conditions of the road they were driving way too fast for the conditions and should have slowed down and that would have never happened there were many blind curves on that road in those days and they should have taken heed to the conditions of the road thank you again have a wonderful day and many more days to follow I do appreciate this stuff it does bring back old memories some of it bad some of it good at this stage in my life it's all good good thank you and God bless also at the time you were standing on the porch of that grocery store it was owned by friends of mine who were named Jerry and Jerry that were owners of the store at that time and very good friends of mine
Jerry Selland was a kick! She has since passed away.
I remember the Queen's visit, but not the terrible car crash. But the one thing prominent in my memory of that chapter in California's history was hearing how terribly angry and frustrated the people were to learn that their vacation plans were destroyed after learning their room reservations were cancelled at the Ahwahnee Hotel because the Queen of England needed elbow room. GREAT VIDEO as usual, keep them coming.
Oh i bet there was a lot of folks who waited all year for their vacation only to get a call to tell them all their rooms were cancelled ..
I know it's the Queen but with 121 rooms in that complex how many does a queen and prince need to put up there staff and secret service ? I bet there were 100 rooms left over empty ..
Gawd what would it be to let the people come and meet the queen and take pictures and visit , to me that's good PR any way you cut it ..It's not that i don't understand security as i do but that's too much going the wrong way .. How about the peoples feelings and ruined vacations .. I don't know about others folks but if it happened to me i would remember that for years to come .. It's not good PR anyway you look at it ..
That and chaining off all the roads coming into the park to add insult to injury too..
@@normanmallory2055 More to do with the security then space I expect!
Totally understand your view.. but I guess to have to vet all the people that had reservations would be too much.. unfortunately for them, their plans got cancelled for the queens visit .. I hope they gave them some good credits for rescheduling!
Great job Jeff! Thanks for all the videos.
Glad you like them! We'll keep cranking them out!
I remember watching a show that examined this crash to sort out what happened and who was at fault. Was just so sad. Makes you think, one moment life is good and moving on, the next you're no longer here. Live life while you can! I enjoyed the little scene at the end. ;)
I had forgotten this piece of history that I know I saw on the news. Thanks!
I never had heard about Oueen Elizabeth's visit to California and the horrible automobile accident related that visit. So very interesting & news to me. I would have loved to have seen the Oueen of England. 🇬🇧 I am happy that you had the opportunity. Loved Michael Landon and his series Highway to Heaven! Thank you for sharing your memories with us. Blessings from Eastern Tennessee. 🙂🙋
Great job! I love the Lagrange area. It’s been many years since I’ve been to the dredge, time to go back. I had no idea about the queen.
Brandon C I agree!
Great video, I didn't know all this about La Grange and the Queen or the dredge. I think this is my favorite video of yours so far. Have you done anymore videos on La Grange's history?
Thanks and no we haven’t done any more sense. I’ll probably get to another one but there’s so much to do!
My husband and I have been watching your history films all day. We really enjoy you and Sarah. She is funny and cute as a button. Love you both. God bless.
That is awesome! Thank you! I showed Sarah your message! Much appreciated!
Love your content! Not the overly long, slick, intro!
Spent two and a half years at Castle AFB, 76>78. So left the state before this happened. Heard about the Queen going to Yosemite by way of Castle, but didn't know about the pass through La Grange. Personally passed thru La Grange a couple of times, but never stopped. Had I known about the dredge, I would have made it a destination! Love your vids.
Wow… thanks for risking life and limb to show us the dredge.. I was seriously worried when you went down into that hole to check for gold !! It all looks so sketchy! Glad your head wound wasn’t worse ! Ouch!
Great video.. good job!!
And then you still went back to finish up! Thanks for that!
Also , I know this video was yrs ago.. interesting to see how your channel has evolved .. no more stranger guy doing the intros !
Like the early videos where you and Sarah go over the next episode on the back patio.. the banter w you two is cute !
Thanks for your amazing commentary! By the way I still have a scar on my scalp from that wound!
what a super great research video jeff,great cal.history.
courtney hall thank you!
Great video as usual :) Thankyou
Thanks. This was one of my earlier ones which I would have done differently! LOL
This is really interesting, I don't remember any of this happening. Really good video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Dan!
Love Sarahs pic , she looks absolutely gorgeous!!! at the end of this very interesting video. !!! Loved it
Didn't know the Queen even came then...thanks for sharing that history !!!
Great episode. Last time I was at the dredge was back in 09.
Thank you very much! This growing channel always appreciate the support!
Well done as usual.
Hi Sarah and Jeff. I vaguely remember this debacle. What a disaster that was set before the Queen. Great story you two. Your head injury looked so painful. Talk about giving it all for the channel.
Heads wounds always bleed badly! This was a few years back and the only lasting issue is I did not get that gash stitched up (I should have) and now there is a visible scar and strange hair line separation on my scalp. Next time I do that I will go in. LOL
@@jbenziggy Great idea!
Love your videos. I was wondering what city do you guys live in? I grew up in Merced and have been thru La Grange many times. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Jeff and Sara I’ve seen this video before the queen died but I felt the need to pull it up again thank you again for the great job on this video you did. I was at Castle Air Force Base today the queen arrived I was there with my mother the most exciting day of my life. And now the queen and my mom are having tea together in heaven I can’t wait till I get to have with them!
Great video!!!
Thank you very much for letting us know you liked this one!
This is very good , i remember reading about that accident when it took place .. I never knew anymore than what the news report said .. You covered detail very well .. Now i know how it unfolded .. Those old monster Dredges are something to see and visit .. Myself i wouldn't want to go on one to look around , dangerous because of their age and condition .. Lots of them in Alaska ..
Now when it comes to coverage you did the right thing , you used your Drone which produced pretty cool footage and covered it very well , more so than on the ground .. I like the idea of using a drone for my view that i see that's pretty darn good..Really one gets to see the big picture it's well worth it .. very well done ..
Thanks very much Norman! This was one of our first videos so I made mistakes. Glad you liked it!
@@jbenziggy I didn't notice any mistakes that i could see , you did like i do once in awhile whack my head on something when i'm in a tight spot where i shouldn't be and not looking where i should be looking .. It always hurts at first ..
Medical detectives (forensic files) s8 e40 on yt covers the crash. It really goes into detail
Omigosh! I had no idea this happened! I am too young to remember it, but I’m shocked it isn’t discussed more often on history shows. Thanks for sharing this story!
P.S. Sorry you got hurt Jeff!
Awesome video and Crazy . OH NO , safe you two
Keeping the past alive, great channel
I've been binge watching you & Sarah.
Your videos are high quality. Jeff has replaced the late Huell Howser! I'd watch him everyday at 1:00 on pbs.
I think your storytelling & professional editing is good enough to be on PBS. ❤
Love your Cemetary hunting stories of The Daltons & Black Bart.
If you contacted the book authors, could you both hold a public appearance & talk about the hunting using the Authors.
Have a table set up to sell merch to support your channel....
Downstairs at Midesto library they used to hold meetings & public seating would be great to have a Meet n' Greet with you & book Authors
Just an idea if it happens I will be there
I have been all over the La Grange area, I worked at a few of the gold mines around the Mariposa area, the Mt. Gaines, but I never stopped and looked at the dredge.
Jeff, Sarah I vaguely remember this. 1983 was the year I was taking care of my Grandmother and Mother and wasn't watching much news by the 7th of March 1983, I was way too busy taking care of my two family members. Thank you two for filling me in on what happened that day in history with the now deceased Queen Elizabeth I I. I just caught a glimpse of your accident on the dredge; please be careful.
Thank you. I didn’t get stitches and should have. I have a permanent scar on my scalp because of it.
Love Jeff and Sarah love history hunters! Your number one fan Lou Martell
It's fascinating how a machine that large was in service for 100+years. Wherever I'm at that's pretty old always gets me thinking about the people who worked or lived at the destination, and what it was like to live back then
I know just where it happened. Family owned a houseboat on Don Pedro then and we've been down every road and in every town in this video...love your videos!
Thank you very much Cindy!
I remember this incident VERY well. I was in the Command Post with the Secret Service as they lost communications with the vehicle. The vehicle and its agents were doing a sweep of the route to the park. Another crew was sent down the route and found the wreck. They reported that everyone was dead. The command post was quiet and a few of the regularly somber secret service agents broke down with the news that many of their close associates had been killed. The queens route was changed so she would not go past the wreck.
Awesome find...the piece of plastic and exploring that dredge would be a high for me.!!!!
OMG I live so close to the crash site!!!! Never heard about an old dredge... and that was a Canadian Dredge Owl. Tx Tx
Lol!
Interesting! Loved this video! Great history. I was in Oklahoma in 83’ only 23 years old. Today is the first day I heard about the tragic story! I was hoping that was a real gold nugget too 🤔
I couldn’t be so lucky to find a gold nugget! Lol! Thanks for watching! We appreciate your comments too Sharon!
Hey, that was great. Glad your head is ok.
😮 this is the most dangerous episode of History Hunters that I have watched. Hope your head wound was not too serious, Jeff. A very sad episode for those who lost their lives. RIP!
I recovered nicely, Wayne, but I should have got stitches as there is a part in my hair where my scalp split open. I can feel the scar to this day! Lol
Your videos are awesome and Sarah is way cool!
Thank you very much! I think Sarah is cool too!
No one mentioned weather or not anyone was wearing a seat belt? If not, an eerie foreshadowing of the car crash in Paris that killed the Princess of Wales nearly 15 years later
Great job.
I love your channel and wish more videos were done in the factual way you do them. My only request (if I'm allowed?) is more videos like this one. This and the ones about the patrolmen killed in Newhall, and the plane crash videos, I'd like more of those. The morbid ones haha. Regardless, I will still watch each one you put out.
The video this Sunday should be morbid enough for you. Lol
@@jbenziggy Loved it
Thank you....
You're welcome!
LOVED it! That ole dredge reminds me of #TonyBeets from Goldrush tv show
Loved the video. Read about Queen's visit and related happenings in Cheri Seymour's book The Last Circle. We live in Sonora - a field trip is in order - haven't been to La Grange in a long time. Subscribed to your channel.
Marsha Ezell thank you! If you go to the dredge wear a hard hat! Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
I was here at Yosemite Park with fellow Mabininian from the province of Bohol. We came from Stockton , going east till we arrived at Angels Camp in our way to beautiful Yosimete Park. We paid entrance fee of 20$ to hen we proceed right at the foot of Yosemite. There were so many people walking , jogging , horse back riding. When we enter the park highway patrol is keep on watching every in @ out of the park. The view are fashinating , cliffs, valley with formation of rocks filed were so amazing. A beautiful park I ever visit in my lifetime.
It really is a beautiful place and right in our "backyard." Unfortunately they now require a person to have reservations to enter, which I think was their goal all along to cut down on visitors. It's sad to see people denied the opportunity to go in OUR national park without having to plan it out months in advance and face restrictions.
I would like to see Lagrange again , had a good bit of fun there year's ago. Is that dredge back towards Snelling? I've seen it before from the road only. Good video Thanks
steve mccoy yes on the road toward Snelling! But closer to LaGrange!
Great history Jeff! This is the kind of stuff I like thank you!. Anything on Bonnie and Clyde?
Thanks, Allen! I'm toying with different ideas in the future and Bonnie & Clyde have crossed my mind!
Nice video. My Great Grandfather, Hubert G Kumle was the Superintendent of the La Grange Gold Dredge Co. From 1918 till about 1930. He started his own Company and operated in Clements then Knights Ferry until WWII shut them down. He is mentioned in Quest for Deep Gold I think. My Grandmother probably went to school in the one room school in the video. Their house was at the south end of the old steel bridge. It is gone now though. I believe the dredge still there belonged to the Tuolumne Gold Dredge Co.
Thanks for watching. Both steel bridges are still there. The Basso Bridge is now a pedestrian bridge and the same with the Old La Grange Bridge. You have some very interesting family history there!
Thanks for the info. We should run down there. As far as my familly history I am a 7th generation Northern Californian and have a pair of first cousins several times removed of course who brought Methodism and Presbyterian to NorCal one of them is credited with being the first Europeans in Death Valley. Just Google up James Welch and Julliette Wells Brier. Also Google up William Wallace Brier. We share my 4xGreat Grandparents.
Ronnie Reagan is my favourite American President.It is hard to believe that a modern motor can travel further in 30 minutes than a chuck wagon travelled in six weeks in the early days of settlement.RIP to the three secret service agents who gave their lives protecting the Queen and the President.
How many pictures did you manage to take on that day? It must've been exciting getting coverage from such a devastating accident!
I remember going there as a family. I thought it was great fun! There was not a fence there at the times we went.
The deputy sheriff was driving 64 mph , twice the posted limit for that curve!
Sad story, fascinating history.
Jeff, at least 3 weeks ago, I just wanted to let you know, that my husband & I visited La Grange, I did not go by and see the gold dredge, (it was so hot, out there), however, we did visit the Trading Post Museum there, and I got to see, the old school house, that was built, in the 1800 's, it was awesome, apparently, they used that school house as a church, at one time. However, there is a catholic church, and cemetary, directly, across from it, and a prodistant cemetary, (some yards away, on the side of the school house), which my husband & I went into. I also, had no idea, that there, are really, (appoximately) 150 in population there, I asked the guy, managing the Trade Post Museum this. Thought you might like to know.
I remember a little bit about this story. I have long felt a simple small cross should be allowed, perhaps with a number code to allow research of the person and/or situation.
This dredge is like the one in Sumpter Oregon mabey built by the same company, you can explore it by ourself or a guided tour. Hopefully you can make it to Sumpter in Eastern Oregon for a history hunt someday.
I love all your videos.. Was wondering where you were .. Might want to keep a hard hat in your car 😎 but glad you are ok!
Ahnala Amerson thanks for liking my work! More videos are in the works! And don’t worry - I won’t be going underneath any more dredges!
Hey Jeff do you own a drone? Those were pretty cool drone photos! And this vlog was fantastic!
Yes I do have a drone. Thank you very much!!!
I was working on a power plant in Lagrange that day I saw the queen go by.
We were close by then! Thanks for watching!
Very interesting coverage of that tragic incident in 1983. Too bad Debbie Downer thinks it's "boring".
I was in my senior year at Fred C. Beyer high school when this happened.
I remember I lived around the corner from the wreck and the car was left by the bus stop area
Great video! and you started walking around that dredge I said you was going to walk hit your head! And this mom was not wrong! Did you get stitches? I think that was a piece of the car.
I did not get stitches but should have. You can see where my hair parts along the cut line. LOL
Just happen to came across this video I just moved to la grange 2yrs ago
One of the coolest local stories
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
Never knew that one of those killed was from my hometown of Newark, NJ ! R.I.P. to the dead !
I remember when that happened. So very sad
I love history, come to Vermont and I'll go history hunting with you.lol
I actually have been to Vermont only once and I was drawn to Plymouth to check out Calvin Coolidge's home and farm. It was amazing!
Yes I've been there several times.... there are other historical stuff all around too, I am not too far from New Hampshire and mt Washington has alot of history. If you ever head to New England I would love to meet you both.
Sworn in as a Clamper years ago @ The Dredge.💪🏻🎩
I have a friend who was born and raised in Mariposa, CA. He says the Mariposa deputy who slammed into the queen's motorcade was sent only to slow them down.
The small local airport was loading some "sensitive" cargo to be flown out at the same time the queen was due to arrive ( with FEDERAL agents ). I guess it was a case of "bad timing" on behalf of the powers that be.
Hope you are ok. Sorry you got hurt. Be more careful!
As High Schoolers we had parties there 4 to 5 times a summer...great memories.
In La Grange or Don Pedro?
La Grange at the Dredge. We would stop when we up for the Rodeo as well. My older sister and her husband lived up at the La Grange Dam. He worked for TID.
I was just thinking how dangerous that place was and that you could get hurt and you did! You and Sarah should stay out of there.
I remember this as a kid in California. It was same month and year my brother was killed. Both incidences made me realize how real death was. Our parents died and we got adopted together. I learned death the easy way at an early age. It's never easy.
Sorry to hear about your tragic loss, Steven. How old was your brother? I didn't mention it but in 1971 my much admired cousin once removed who babysat us as kids died in a stupid act of speeding not far from the town of La Grange featured here. He was like 17 years old. Such a tragic waste.
You know what's creepy? Driving those roads at night, which I have done a number of times, including in a few 1970's land yachts, like my 1973 Chrysler Newport and our 1972 Olds Vista Cruiser wagon. (hey, the cars were cheap and I had no money, plus I LOVE 1970's cars)
Yeah for sure. Lots of people say on up the hill the Greeley Hill area is weird with the culture and people. Don’t know why they say that but I’ve heard it from more than one person.
The CHP was trying to blame accident on the Sheriff Deputy. He was facing some serious charges with the terrible accident and deaths that occurred. A fine lawyer and family friend named Charles Brunn (R.I.P) hired some investigators to research the evidence and use some early forensics to determine the cause. Evidence exonerated the Sheriff Deputy and cleared him of the accused crimes. Details included in Forensic Files, Season 8, Episode 40.
Kinda like the old McDonals barge from Expo 86 that's been sitting around rotting away
This narrator is great- why doesn't he make any videos anymore? Very well-trained voice.
There's a forensic files episode on yt on this deadly crash: Medical Detectives (forensic files) s8 e40
Wow, god bless those killed...there should be a memorial erected at that site, especially when they lose their lives in the line of service.
Despite the terrible tragedy, I hope the Queen had a nice visit here in United States. 🙂
It was a rainy visit but she was probably used to that being how much it rains in England!
I wish I knew the story of lovers leap. Rite by oakdale and Sonora
Hope you go to Sutters creek and Jackson
Watching some older videos 👍
That curve has been called dead man’s curve since
I lived on Jaime way
Wow! never the queen visited the area and Sacramento.
Jeff, what an honor for you to be a part of that.
Hey Jeff, Three Secret Service Agents died, what happened to the Sheriff in the other car?
The CHP was trying to blame accident on the Sheriff Deputy. He was facing some serious charges with the terrible accident and deaths that occurred. A fine lawyer and family friend named Charles Brunn (R.I.P) hired some investigators to research the evidence and use some early forensics to determine the cause. Evidence exonerated the Sheriff Deputy and cleared him of the accused crimes. I saw someone else mention the Forensic Files, Season 8, Episode 40 includes these details.