Is FUN Destructive to GOOD ART?

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  • @SpearRabbit
    @SpearRabbit Рік тому +374

    To be fair I think this is the most I've seen Van smile and the most laughs I've had from a Van video. So to my mind, it's a successful experiment!

    • @Kovalique
      @Kovalique Рік тому +2

      success of an experiment isn't getting the result you wanted. The success of an experiment is determined by whether the experiment was conducted properly and whether the results obtained were consistent with the hypothesis being tested. The experiment should be designed in such a way that it can be replicated and the results should be statistically significant. The data obtained should be analyzed using appropriate statistical methods to determine if there is a significant difference between the control group and the experimental group.

    • @dmcentYT
      @dmcentYT Рік тому +1

      Same here

    • @SpearRabbit
      @SpearRabbit Рік тому +2

      Me: Haha Van funny
      @@Kovalique : lemme read from this textbook real quick

    • @JustinMcCulloughOnline
      @JustinMcCulloughOnline Рік тому

      Yeah, it was great to see the smiles. I was smiling a good bit too just watching. Successful project if you ask me.

    • @DavidDrury
      @DavidDrury Рік тому +1

      came here to say this. so true

  • @nelsonw8848
    @nelsonw8848 Рік тому +92

    I think one of the big elements missing in our modern society is small group projects. whether it is making dinner together with friends or family or a small fix in the house, having another person there makes it a shared experience so it's no longer a solo project and a chore.

    • @ameyakeni
      @ameyakeni Рік тому +2

      Wow great observation!

    • @SpataWorks
      @SpataWorks Рік тому

      My productivity dropped below 50% when my friends stopped hanging around when I worked on projects. Made my best work then too getting some good recognition in my art. Been in a block ever since

  • @carlosflores85
    @carlosflores85 Рік тому +129

    It is criminal if Johnny isn't a voiceover artist!! What a unique voice...so cool! Good video!

    • @calebhatcher5789
      @calebhatcher5789 Рік тому +18

      He sounds very similar to Matty Matheson

    • @internetsurfer3000
      @internetsurfer3000 Рік тому

      lol I thought it was Matty Matheson. I thought it was going to be a reveal since he hadn't shown his face yet.@@calebhatcher5789

    • @reesekury7579
      @reesekury7579 Рік тому +13

      @@calebhatcher5789 and Steve-o

    • @alinds1
      @alinds1 Рік тому +10

      @@calebhatcher5789 and, no joke, Melissa McCarthy

    • @shadyshin12
      @shadyshin12 Рік тому +1

      ​@@calebhatcher5789 and Will Neff imo

  • @chrispowers5672
    @chrispowers5672 Рік тому +68

    This video is too real.
    My entire professional life has been a cycle of becoming obsessed with something, becoming competent at it, making it my job, growing to hate the thing I loved because doing it professionally destroys the fun.
    Some passions need to remain passions to fulfill the need for fun. Do things you enjoy *enough* for money.

    • @Mad4400
      @Mad4400 Рік тому +1

      There have been times when I've started a new job or changed roles within a company, and I've been asked. "How are you enjoying it?". My reply every time is the same, regardless if it to a co-worker or the managing director. "I don't come to work to enjoy it, I have hobbies and pastimes for that. When I know I can pay my bills and keep the roof over my head, then I am free to enjoy doing the things that I love."

    • @Eggs-n-Jakey
      @Eggs-n-Jakey Рік тому +1

      I've heard this from a lot of friends. It usually ebbs and flows as long as the skill ceiling is high enough. Pick your poison, something you've never loved, or something you know has the potential for love. Even sex, drugs, and good music can get old. (don't do drugs....)

  • @ArtAndPrevailing
    @ArtAndPrevailing Рік тому +94

    johnny's circle is the best circle. it wasn't perfect, and threw just enough chaos into the project to make it funny and not methodical. Adding: I love seeing people in your life in these videos too. Johnny seems like an amazing person to goof with. They'd make a great shop assistant! Reminds me a bit of 10 Hundred's crew (he's an artist in Michigan who does workshop builds and art videos).

  • @Salmomlox
    @Salmomlox Рік тому +25

    "I'm built like a water buffallo" Thanks for sharing your process and including Johnny. He is really funny. Great job guys! Loved Johnny's circle ☺☺😂😂

  • @N3rdyJam3sBond
    @N3rdyJam3sBond Рік тому +2

    @11:40 was such a great transition, amazing work!

  • @ajchaskar
    @ajchaskar Рік тому +28

    I had fun watching the boys have fun! Don't care if the swing was done or not, that you'd do it anyways! Johnny, how could you not get the circle right 😂

  • @avgmaker
    @avgmaker Рік тому +2

    I think the amount of focus necessary clouds our mind during the course of the project. However, it's when we look back to remind ourselves of the time spent on the project that we remember all of the fun moments that we likely missed in the chaos of the project happening. It's almost as though we don't notice the fun bits during the project, but they are always there and are waiting for the end of the project to be reminisced upon.

  • @no-hustle
    @no-hustle Рік тому +2

    It's good to see you laugh and unwind a little. It's hard to switch off from "the process" at times, especially when you create something. It;s good to be serious. To have focus and be "on it". But it's also important to remind ourselves of why we do the things we do.

  • @EmceeeMp4
    @EmceeeMp4 Рік тому +4

    I just know Van was hyped when he made the cut/transition at 11:45
    Shit even I was like:
    "Wait what!? That was smoooth!!" 😂
    Even with the audio leaking into the other shot, amazing!!!
    Keep up the good work!! By the way, you should do this more often. It's nice to see two spirited individuals together and crack jokes at learning experiences.
    Much love and Peace!! 💜✌🏽

  • @nicktufano4605
    @nicktufano4605 Рік тому +2

    This is one of the better videos you’ve uploaded in a while, imho. It was cool to see you smile more and attempt to hurdle a problem of self. Worthwhile to me, keep it up

  • @AZisk
    @AZisk Рік тому +9

    Johnny is awesome! A natural! More Johnny!

  • @npegg
    @npegg Рік тому +6

    11:42 transition is amazing

  • @SethPetero
    @SethPetero Рік тому +2

    THANK YOU. Been thinking about this exact issue/theory for months. Glad to see someone else's take on it.

  • @auston911
    @auston911 Рік тому +7

    note to self : original title "Is FUN Destructive to GOOD ART?"

  • @RhysAKARhys
    @RhysAKARhys Рік тому +4

    It’s videos like this that make me appreciate what you do to always deliver impactful art. Thank you.

  • @ranplan
    @ranplan Рік тому +3

    Tim Dillon and Steve-O had a child named Johnny, and he is a great addition to Van’s channel (and to the UA-cam world in general). Loved this video and gave me a bunch of ideas to think about!

  • @willperry9722
    @willperry9722 Рік тому +2

    Love your work Van, Jonny definitely added something special to the mix 😁

  • @BattleMega
    @BattleMega Рік тому +1

    I really enjoyed watching this! I think this sort of video would be nice to watch from you every now and then like one in every four or something like that. The fun ones aren't perfect but seeing you have fun gave me a sense of joy that was different from your other videos. Hope to see more of it in the future.

  • @grasje1
    @grasje1 Рік тому +7

    This video might not feel as artsy as your other work, but it does feel way more human without losing any of the storytelling or cinematography. Nice to see you try you hand at fun :)

  • @paulplett
    @paulplett Рік тому

    It was so great to see you having fun! Thanks for sharing, and thanks for showing us all this side of yourself. Make the art that you want to make, Van. We love you. But for my part, I truly enjoy seeing you explore a world that is a little less 'perfect' and a little more 'fun'.

  • @CozyLivingMachine
    @CozyLivingMachine Рік тому +3

    WINNEBAGO MAN!! I love the reference there. 🤣 Great video, as always!

    • @rogerg.2686
      @rogerg.2686 Рік тому +1

      thanks.. was wracking my brain..WINNEBAGO MAN!! YES!

  • @RachaelPadilla
    @RachaelPadilla Рік тому +4

    The video got done, and it does look like fun was had by all! Success!

  • @boo-ll1of
    @boo-ll1of Рік тому +1

    Don't let these commentators lie to you! Most of your videos are 10/10, they have a point - you find a beautiful and meaningful problem and you go through that half engineering half artistic process to solve that problem the best you can conceive - through that mythological narative you are not only showing us the way of the hero but also The authenticity of individuated person who walked consciously through life. This video, I havent liked like the others, but it has a point and it is that for a meaningful work you gotta have a principle higher than yourself, the principle that you sacrifice to and it makes the proces NOT FUN but meaningful. I love how you feel that meaning you are creating/discovering even when you can't consciously put your finger on it (like in video: Why do details matter?). Lastly and sadly, I am a proponent of fun and I want you ti have fun, not to suffer involuntarily. So, Dear Spirited man, I love you dearly and many others do, so if the videos are not of necessary financial reasons just stop making them until you feel the need to undertake the suffering again.
    Sorry for butchering English language, Im Croatian

  • @rcqsisler
    @rcqsisler Рік тому

    💜💜💜
    1. Awesome video
    2. Had fun watching you have fun
    3. Data gathered for completion of the swing
    It looks like an overall great experiment and experience
    💜💜💜

  • @TSGEnt
    @TSGEnt Рік тому

    3:50 Heck, I 'm the same way, but often while editing, I have to go grab a pickup shot 'cause the muse hits and I didn't think of it during the writing process. Or worse, I shot everything but I need a cover shot at the 11pm for finish the edit. You feel me?
    I must say though, I did have fun watching this. So there's that. Thank you.
    Everybody needs a "Johnny"

  • @pentacleman1000
    @pentacleman1000 Рік тому +1

    I think all of your other problems stem from the first problem, which I would sum up with one word: deadlines. Deadlines suck the fun out of anything. And to hear you kind of groan about how this video has to be done to meet your weekly schedule, kind of proves that theory. Trying to film while working can certainly interrupt your focus too. But I don’t think that disruption detracts from the fun as much as the stress of worrying about meeting your schedule, especially when things go wrong. I hear this often among UA-camrs, talking about how blessed they are to do what they do for a living, while at the same time realizing that it has become a job, which, like a lot of jobs, includes expectations that lead to deadlines. It’s not just a fun thing to do any more. You’re taking money from people now, so you need to perform with regular output. Those expectations lead to deadlines, which suck the fun out of everything. Your success has trapped you into a world of deadlines. And if you weren’t already admittedly neurotic, a world of deadlines can certainly get you there. Not fun.

  • @yashedpotatoes
    @yashedpotatoes Рік тому +2

    One of the great things about the internet is the parasocial bond that viewers form with creators. Even if a video doesn't appear to be in its final perfected state, as long as it's clear that the creator had fun during the process, I, as a viewer, feel a minor emotional connection to the unfolding events. It was disappointing that we didn't get to see the swing in action, but honestly, I didn't even mind whether it worked or not. Just witnessing the two of you having a good time making it, sharing moments of panic and nervous laughter, made me feel like my time spent watching was worthwhile.

  • @pablokolb7194
    @pablokolb7194 Рік тому

    In Engineering this is a classic. Trying to succeed at the first try, giving everything and then fail.
    Don't focus on beeing successful but on learning and having fun! You can learn the most if you fail and have fun! Success will come automatically as you learn.
    (next time you will know how this the branch needs to be at min. and how important it is to buy an actually strong rope (climbing supplies?)...
    Great Video! Thanks!

  • @made.in_yana
    @made.in_yana Місяць тому

    This is probably my most favorite video from Van.

  • @BenjaminAlonso-d6l
    @BenjaminAlonso-d6l Рік тому

    I gotta tell you - this was an entertaining video- like others have noted- it might've lacked aesthetic/ "perfectioness" that I'm used to seeing although, I appreciated the relatableness and sense of humor in the video- It reminded me of Casey's "friend" narrator approach in vlogs in contrast to a much more refined/ less connected to the narrator format which I'm used to seeing on your channel. :)

  • @Ph3_n1x
    @Ph3_n1x Рік тому +1

    Fantastic Van, the balance of work and play is difficult. But friends are great for keeping us focused on the present and not getting lost in either side.

  • @edgeofhalo
    @edgeofhalo Рік тому +2

    overcoming the frustrations and savoring your victory each time is always fun.

  • @ianbrennan5762
    @ianbrennan5762 Рік тому +2

    I had fun watching it! Thanks Van! I think your audience would happily welcome more fun into your videos if you'd be comfortable. Let em "suck becuase of fun" a little more. Life requires fun, work can hold a little more fun too!

  • @TedNemeth
    @TedNemeth Рік тому +2

    Van is one of the most talented fabricators on the planet, without exaggerating. And he couldn’t build a swing. He filmed & shared his failure with everyone. My man has spirit. This episode was pulled right from my life. Every damn day making damn youtube episodes. Its stressful.

  • @TravisVsWorld
    @TravisVsWorld Рік тому +1

    This video was a success in itself, but it also provides interesting foreshadowing for a better swing on the horizon. Great, capturing, story telling I'd say!

  • @TheMrBrendo
    @TheMrBrendo Рік тому

    100% WORTH WHILE. It’s fun to watch you have fun failing THIS TIME at making a swing. Take another crack and keep having as much fun…because i dont watch for your project successes, I watch for the life lessons along the way

  • @daddygoat
    @daddygoat Рік тому

    This is the funniest video. I was choking with laughter when the rope kept stretching and creaking.

  • @Eggs-n-Jakey
    @Eggs-n-Jakey Рік тому

    Love this video Van. I think the noise from the rope was tightening of the knot. That rope doesn't grip that well (to itself in a knot) so it takes a while for it to be at load tension. (at least that's the problem I have when using that type of rope.) It's better for outdoors than climbing rope though, should last until your kid moves out, grand kids would be cool too!

  • @CanadiansInCarsGettingCocky

    The "fear scream" when testing the rope had me laughing so hard! 😂🤣

  • @TheSmithomatic
    @TheSmithomatic Рік тому

    I definitely feel this. The videos I make where I have the most fun are my less successful videos, the ones where I apply myself do better but are so much less fun to make..

  • @easternbluebird9371
    @easternbluebird9371 Рік тому +1

    It was fun and lot's of laughter on this project. A tip where to get good ropes: just connect with the spirited people of cavers and arborists and they will fix you some proper rope, and won't take any fun away 😅😊

  • @G.Photogirl
    @G.Photogirl Рік тому +1

    I think the cracking is the tree, is there a way to get a drone up there to check the branch?

  • @robthewaywardwoodworker9956

    Johnny: "But it was fun"
    Van: "yeah....."
    Just for the record, it was fun to watch.

  • @andresbarriga5305
    @andresbarriga5305 Рік тому

    I Think it would be a great introduction to the channel having someone young as an assistant. So Van could be mindful of teaching, to bounce ideas, to have help and as someone who could give perspective to his perspective. Mentoring would be great adition to the dinamics of the channel and Van's ideas. I really do think so.

  • @maratortega8860
    @maratortega8860 Рік тому

    I had a lot of fun!!! And even though the proyect wasn't finish, the procesa of trying (on my perspective) its the most important thing. I would love to watch more of these situations were you are not being perfect Van and the where the thing's didn't come the way they supposed to. I thing it makes everything more realistic and human.

  • @Kelly-td5uf
    @Kelly-td5uf Рік тому

    I was listening while working and wasn't looking at the screen - all of a sudden I thought I was hearing Steve-O talking about fun. Johnny and him have a very similar voice!

  • @bobongler
    @bobongler Рік тому +2

    I watched this video this morning and have been thinking about it a lot. What if having fun while being creative is a skill that you work at and get better toward just like anything else? Thank you for sharing and for your efforts in making this video.

  • @jimmyeatshoe
    @jimmyeatshoe Рік тому

    Great video! Great circle! I loved that it didn’t get finished because my imagination filled in the blanks. I know what that looks like swinging out over that death drop without you having to do it. Enjoyed the stress testing of the rope 😂 So much suspense and tension (rope puns) ❤

  • @yesdonnaful
    @yesdonnaful Рік тому

    When you were telescoping the ladder I said “this man is crazy now”

  • @stubbingmytoeproductions4837

    Hey Van, haven't seen a comment appreciating that seamless edit at 11:45 so thought id be the one to virtually tip my cap to it here on this comment board

  • @thejoefowler
    @thejoefowler Рік тому +1

    I've been a professional video producer for 20 years, working for many, MANY companies and clients. I can whole-heartedly admit that "fun" isn't there as much as it used to be. It's a job. It's the best job I've ever had and I don't know what else I'd prefer to do, but don't let anyone fool you, this is work. And it's easy to feel burned out.

  • @dmcentYT
    @dmcentYT Рік тому

    Great video for such a typically simple project. It’s all about the journey not the destination

  • @Hiluxtaco
    @Hiluxtaco Рік тому

    Yes! A new Land Cruiser video (by Van) is on they way!

  • @alexanderpro4630
    @alexanderpro4630 Рік тому +1

    finger in the wood hole made my day lmao

  • @deziomakes
    @deziomakes Рік тому

    Well, *I* had fun. I really laughed! I'm an artist and you've given me a lot to think about. You always do that for me.

  • @SteveHarperrippleon
    @SteveHarperrippleon Рік тому

    Loved this video. You had me at “built like a water buffalo”

  • @willy7369
    @willy7369 Рік тому

    Your creative approach to each of your videos is so unique. Differing from your brother Casey. Both make amazing content and such great videos

  • @boxtruckhouse
    @boxtruckhouse Рік тому +1

    I feel like pain is the best attribute of art. I like to look at paintings on my wall and imagine the elation of when the artist finished it. I like to think of the hours of toil and the frustrations. Then I think about how that person is gone now, and the whole soul is there on my wall. It's like if you could be in the room when The Beatles cut a record.

  • @Fatbloooood
    @Fatbloooood Рік тому

    "This was, fun!" in my best Van dramatic pause

    • @Fatbloooood
      @Fatbloooood Рік тому

      I guess the real question is, did you go back and play with it again?

  • @AutismTwinsUs
    @AutismTwinsUs Рік тому

    Brilliant video Van , Johnny was great/infectious

  • @RobbieTilton
    @RobbieTilton Рік тому

    It's fun to watch you having fun

  • @multison8302
    @multison8302 Рік тому +2

    if your process is fun and produces artifacts that can be used in further processes that are fun, then you can get away with just one unfun, scheduled, intensely focussed process at the end of a chain of fun processes.

  • @mattslaboratory5996
    @mattslaboratory5996 Рік тому

    All the planning and dealing with details ARE the fun part for me. Not finding the right rope at Home Depot means I get to go to more hardware stores looking for stuff, Yay! But it's true that filming the process is a pain, it really changes it.

  • @macpookbro
    @macpookbro Рік тому

    I would also say you succeeded. And also, Johnnys voice is awesome!

  • @Gabbro_1
    @Gabbro_1 Рік тому +2

    I think getting some rope rated for human body weight, like climbing rope, would have been a good idea.

  • @EduSodap
    @EduSodap Рік тому

    The worst part is when you HAVE fun doing a project that you would consider worthwile but when you finish it, you start feeling bad because it feels like you didn't even work precisely because you had fun and didn't endure any suffering along the way.

  • @Nkanyiso_K
    @Nkanyiso_K Рік тому

    Nothing better than a good circle of friends to help appreciate the process, I love making art even though it’s different sometimes… a lot of the time 😅it’s still can be fun

  • @robertasbalciunas1358
    @robertasbalciunas1358 Рік тому

    This was a great video, Van!

  • @nopunksalive8902
    @nopunksalive8902 Рік тому

    This so good. I think i gotta get back on the patreon.

  • @evanwalbridge6585
    @evanwalbridge6585 Рік тому

    This resonates with me so much! Love this video.

  • @stevefitzherbert
    @stevefitzherbert Рік тому

    got the notification on my smart watch. ahh i feel spirited man! LETS GOOOOO!!

  • @zac9311
    @zac9311 Рік тому

    Van is a master of constructing videos with concurrent plots and ideas

  • @urbexphotographer
    @urbexphotographer Рік тому +4

    Tim Dillon is everywhere nowadays

  • @chrismellon127
    @chrismellon127 Рік тому

    Loveeee the slide!!!

  • @olsonspeed
    @olsonspeed Рік тому +1

    Unfortunately, too many spontaneous "FUN" activities require a subsequent visit to the ER.

  • @VelcorHF
    @VelcorHF Рік тому

    Anger and self hate are so much easier to feel and apply than other emotions. Negative feelings are resolved by overwork and overwork becomes a coping mechanism to survive. Long term, overwork just lead to burnout and missing the point of why I do creative work in the first place. Fun through the process, pleasure in little details and even feeling sad through work are way more difficult to feel.

  • @latelier605
    @latelier605 Рік тому +5

    I don't mind more ''FUN'' and ''INCOMPLETED'' project videos :)

  • @ahzootube
    @ahzootube Рік тому

    I love how your friend tried to cheer you up at the store 😂

  • @fefo.felipi
    @fefo.felipi Рік тому

    Success for shure!!!!!! Love the video and the project

  • @rondavis5557
    @rondavis5557 Рік тому

    Van, i enjoyed watching you have fun. Thank you that was a great video.

  • @yoyopg123
    @yoyopg123 Рік тому +1

    I was going to give him sh!t, but that "Rope district, Ropes on Main" joke redeemed him.

  • @mariaanmo
    @mariaanmo Рік тому

    Thank you for this video, I've been having the exact same dilemma lately and I still have no answers. I've TRIED having fun though...

  • @stone2k
    @stone2k Рік тому

    such an interesting concept...and Van nailed it

  • @Hippiespeedball
    @Hippiespeedball 11 місяців тому

    Not being able to find fun and then shopping for a rope really had me expecting the worst

  • @macc1370
    @macc1370 Рік тому

    The first minute of this film had me wondering if this was going to be an episode about shibari

  • @tatesparks3310
    @tatesparks3310 2 місяці тому

    Anytime Johnny is not in frame, I hear Matty Matheson.

  • @franniewasheretoo
    @franniewasheretoo Рік тому

    I think having backup plans and execution make the proyect more fun! Or at least it makes the project more fun for me, since i have to problem solve to get a result in itself

  • @jerbear7952
    @jerbear7952 Рік тому

    I'm constantly shocked by how similar we are. Really specific stuff.

  • @RestieChavez
    @RestieChavez Рік тому

    I'd love to see you laugh again like you used to on your show with Casey (HBO - Neistat Brothers), and I had fun watching you enjoy yourself

  • @Sjudit84
    @Sjudit84 Рік тому

    OMG I am caughing from laughing at you guys going crazy over the ripping sounds, this was fun for me and something different!

  • @ZoRoSdIb
    @ZoRoSdIb Рік тому

    Yeah arborist/climbing rope is a must for this. At least 1/2in and polyester. The video was worthwhile and fun.

  • @timstapleman
    @timstapleman Рік тому

    Well done!!!

  • @seaneppig385
    @seaneppig385 Рік тому

    This is an interesting point. I think that while good art may not be fun, it is rewarding when finished and therefore still enjoyable.

  • @dragonfish01
    @dragonfish01 Рік тому

    Is the noise of the rope rubbing back and forth on the branch. I assume the rope is siding at the knot and around the limb. You're using a slip knot, which may not be tightening enough to stop the rope from sliding along the bark and literally squeaking...

  • @ezeqkr
    @ezeqkr Рік тому

    Beautiful video!

  • @DrewWillson
    @DrewWillson Рік тому

    "Lowes is sexier than Home Depot" - he said it EXACTLY the way it needed to be said

  • @annieheater1
    @annieheater1 Рік тому

    Very successful video, fun to watch and feels finished. I think next time pick a much bigger branch. Those California oaks are brittle.

  • @mattcred
    @mattcred Рік тому

    I love this as a concept. I need to add more fun back into my projects👌