Oh my god, I do this all the time with friends. The one major difference is that whoever's the Demoman goes full stock, gets let back into the initial spawn room on 2Fort by a Medic, and once there's a detonation kill the Medic activates Uber -- so the enemy's killcam is just of an ubered stock Demoman AFK in spawn.
Funny enough, in Highlander this is EXACTLY what spy does, most notably on payload defense. He calls enemy rotations, Uber percentage, and even dets sometimes.
Stickybomb trap used as an actual trap?! What a world we live in now. It's always the most dumb stuff that always works. It's so dumb that no one expects it, not even twice in modt cases.
Damn now you gave me flashbacks to the good old days where you could detonate stickies while taunting and looking around the corner. Damn that was toxic and fun as hell back then
I was imagining some kind of micro-film camera, that lets him mark one enemy player at a time, which highlights them in wallhacks for the rest of the Spy's team. And it shouldn't drop disguise when used. So a Spy could get behind the enemy, find a good target, and them mark them so the Spy's teammates can see them coming and line up a shot. Could be a Medic, could be a MVP Soldier, could even be a Sentry Gun. Just... give Spy SOMETHING that lets him act like an actual spy.
I like the idea of making the red tape recorder able to be placed anywhere on the map to spectate that area, and the enemy team could destroy it like a building
the sound of demo running into the door at 9:13 is amazing especially considering that this man probably slammed his face on his desk again to get a sound like that
Pretty much yeah, a cheating demo can be worked around with, especially if they only use sticky traps. They are probably one of the weakest to use cheats on in my opinion, hopefully I don't eat my words though ._.
We can evolve this strategy further by equipping a base jumper and leaving spawn to set up the tpose glitch, lay stickies, and stand next to resupply so once you kill someone, you can touch the locker and show the victim a tposing binoculus demo in spawn
It's been a long time dream to see a team of cloak and dagger spies in a payload map. Imagine the gates open and there's just no one there then a minute later the engie gets swarmed with 12 spies all at once.
Something like that happened in the last TF2 video, where three C&D spies flawlessly coordinated a sapper raid against three entrenched engies and got away with it
I'm pretty sure this is what the Commander class was gonna be like before they scrapped. I'm also think that the enginner was gonna be able to build cameras for the commander to look through. It was scrapped becuase they thought the idea of a player having the authority to tell everyone else what to do all the time would have been annoying. It's sill really funny that you managed to mimic an early scrapped game mechanic without realizing it.
If I remember Valve's blog post about the scrapped Commander class, the main problem they realized was basically, "If we take into account the average player's (in)competence, what is the chance the Commander will utterly suck at the job?"
@@TF2CrunchyFrog There's also a quote from the in-game dev commentary where they posed this question: "What do you do when you have a bad commander? What do you do when you're a good commander with a bad team?" Something along those lines.
Sometimes I forget you truly are the master of sound effects in the midst of all the funny shit, cause that tiny little *thump* at 9:13 is just perfection
Seeing that fresh-install Soldier turn-to-get-shit-on combo’d coupled with SoundSmith’s “ooh, avoid the stickies, turn the corner tight,” was absolute gold
You called yourself a CCTV, my brain was like "no he's more like a SSTV (for soundsmith)" then I remembered WW2 and shut myself up really fast on that thought
Check out Highlander competitive format matches! 9v9, one person per class. Spy actually does this for his Demo, tells who's low HP, tells how much enemy Medic has charged up etc.
4:56 Saddest anime story: This acout was bleeding, he fell into sources, and when ge thought he finally reached safety, he looked back and saw detonated stickies. He just gave up.
this is actually a comp strat where demo puts stickies during setup time on payload and spy watches it and calls the det with cnd (only for the first life tho)
God I WISH I could see the pov of the scout who met a demo in the intel room, took the intel, went back up, went to the bridge then died only to see it zoom back in to the demo in the intel room
9:13 Everyone talks about *thunk* but no one talks about how this is literally a demo in a nutshell, drunk as shit, missing a door, survives the explosion, back away, waves from side to side due to concussion, and then just falls and minds his business somewhere else.
This is an incredible idea. I'm surprised to see Ethan didn't think to actually make the spy pov look like a cctv camera with B/W, wave warp and static overlay. But nevertheless it's a good video idea
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Oh my god, I do this all the time with friends. The one major difference is that whoever's the Demoman goes full stock, gets let back into the initial spawn room on 2Fort by a Medic, and once there's a detonation kill the Medic activates Uber -- so the enemy's killcam is just of an ubered stock Demoman AFK in spawn.
lmfao
I laughed with a mouth full of food so some snot escaped my nostrils
psychological warfare
chad
_it's not about sound tactics, it's about sending a message_
The real strat is to stand a bit behind the stickies, so you body block them before detting
chaotic evil
ingenious
We Need this
Was gonna comment this
Then you see a bunch of quickies and airblasts yeet you into TF3
funnily enough, that IS the competitive use for spy in Highlander quite often
literally LOL
half life?
@@HyProDuxyMusicHandle highlander
@@HyProDuxyMusicHandle Highlander (the competitive tf2 format where you have one of each class)
@@neutraldalek4222 like a 9v9?
At long last, Demoman has his second eye
It's just French and roaming around the map
This is the true result of the bombinomicon curse, not Monoculous
@@therealchaosguy the real Monoculus was the friends we made along the way
Resurrection of the Auld Alliance
at that point id rather have 1 eye
DEEP LORE
Huh, so this is the reason spy is considered a support class.
why are you everywhere
It’s almost like he actually fulfills his profession as a spy.
lol
@@ME0WMEREThey’re in TF2, Portal 2, and Terraria comment sections, and so am I
Imagine dying from a sticky trap, and then killcam just floats through the whole enemy base and brings you to a foreskin demo, sitting at the intel
That's a surefire way to get kicked/reported for wallhack cheating though.
A what demo?
@@dragoncat9153 What, are you illiterate? It clearly says foreskin.
What kind of Demo?
@@masterofdoots5965 See my previous reply
Funny enough, in Highlander this is EXACTLY what spy does, most notably on payload defense. He calls enemy rotations, Uber percentage, and even dets sometimes.
It’s almost as if Spy is designed around subtle espionage and gathering important information.
Lol
no way, the spy doing actual spying?
@@elitemagikarp4822 Impossible...
so is C&D used a lot more in competitive?
I love that demo who got stuck on the door, as if the only way to outsmart Ethan and Gene is just to be EVEN DUMBER than them.
Exactly LMAO
Accidental Perfection
Out stupid the stupid
I love that people on the team instantly caught on to what was happening and started baiting people into the trap on purpose
BEGONE BOT
It's great when you come across actual team players. :D
Even Anger Snipers!
@@springfaux6991 literally only has 15 comments on this channel
Props espexially to that anger sniper and that scout.
"No! I heard "Ded" and I thought you said "Det!" You can't just shout Ded while I'm waiting for a Det call!"
YES THAT’S THE CLIP I THOUGHT OF WHEN IT COMES TO A SPY YELLING OUT CALLOUTS
Stickybomb trap used as an actual trap?! What a world we live in now.
It's always the most dumb stuff that always works. It's so dumb that no one expects it, not even twice in modt cases.
Damn now you gave me flashbacks to the good old days where you could detonate stickies while taunting and looking around the corner. Damn that was toxic and fun as hell back then
@@Mr.Marbles the sad thing is that you cant det while doing KABOOM!
That Soundsmith is a bot!
@@bonniethehedgefox9139 Amen, it sure is. Now they say "HIT ME UP ON DISCORD" instead of "HIT ME UP ON TELEGRAM."
@@bonniethehedgefox9139 Yes
honestly, spy should have a buildable camera to put for your team to use while spectating
defiantly a good idea for a utility item slot.
spy gonna be on some rainbow six siege shit
I was imagining some kind of micro-film camera, that lets him mark one enemy player at a time, which highlights them in wallhacks for the rest of the Spy's team. And it shouldn't drop disguise when used.
So a Spy could get behind the enemy, find a good target, and them mark them so the Spy's teammates can see them coming and line up a shot. Could be a Medic, could be a MVP Soldier, could even be a Sentry Gun.
Just... give Spy SOMETHING that lets him act like an actual spy.
Make the red tape recorder turn engineers builds into spying devices OR make them turn on their on team for 10 seconds before the tape is destroyed?
I like the idea of making the red tape recorder able to be placed anywhere on the map to spectate that area, and the enemy team could destroy it like a building
1:20 the look of horror and distress on that demo’s face is perfect.
"I did what I could D: "
First the human trip-wire, now the human CCTV camera. Is there any inanimate object that cannot be recreated with the TF2 mercs?
Human trip wire? Which vid was that?
@@mastermenthe A video of the same name
Don't forget Engi: Become Sentry by Samwiz1
Human pan - not as in taking a pan and beating people to death, but using yourself AS the pan and beating people to death
the train?
the sound of demo running into the door at 9:13 is amazing especially considering that this man probably slammed his face on his desk again to get a sound like that
Think it's also the sfx of bapping someone with the Wrap Assassin
Honestly it has me rolling
you
@@mothichorror446It isn't
I think most people just assumed that the demoman was cheating and thought "Well, atleast it isn't a bot" and played around it
"Eh, not a sniper, so I'll take it"
Pretty much yeah, a cheating demo can be worked around with, especially if they only use sticky traps. They are probably one of the weakest to use cheats on in my opinion, hopefully I don't eat my words though ._.
@@darker_mage3546I'll take that over not being able to step on 90% of the map because a Sniper exist.
2:15 Who would've thought that the competitive use for Spy would be... spying?
ehh more like turning into a live leak camera
More like weaponized spectator.
More like old tf original scout
Spy-cam!
1:50 I immediately imagined using this to turn a single discord call into a hive mind with total map surveilance
That's horrifying, i love it
five nights at freddys
Bro that's straight up Five Nights at 2Fort
With just 9 spies a demo and a medic
COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION
So yeah, the Cloak and Dagger has a use...it makes Spy...an actual Spy!
5:54 the only acceptable use of the Dead Ringer
Gene and Soundsmith discovered reverse stream sniping and disguised it as a cloak and dagger video
3:00 That had to be the funniest killcam in history.
this is also the second instance of soundsmith laughing the same way soldier screams which i find funny every time
The CCTV spy. Now THAT'S a casual meta.
It's also the highlander meta
It’s also the competitive meta.
Cloak and Dagger 2. After a while, he finally revealed himself.
I raise a cup to and your pun sir
We can evolve this strategy further by equipping a base jumper and leaving spawn to set up the tpose glitch, lay stickies, and stand next to resupply so once you kill someone, you can touch the locker and show the victim a tposing binoculus demo in spawn
make it worse by bringing a med into it so they can pop. then it's a tposing ubered binoculus demo in spawn
9:10 is a good example of why he's called SoundSmith.
It's been a long time dream to see a team of cloak and dagger spies in a payload map. Imagine the gates open and there's just no one there then a minute later the engie gets swarmed with 12 spies all at once.
Something like that happened in the last TF2 video, where three C&D spies flawlessly coordinated a sapper raid against three entrenched engies and got away with it
The wooden *thunk* at 9:13 made that so much better
I'm pretty sure this is what the Commander class was gonna be like before they scrapped. I'm also think that the enginner was gonna be able to build cameras for the commander to look through. It was scrapped becuase they thought the idea of a player having the authority to tell everyone else what to do all the time would have been annoying.
It's sill really funny that you managed to mimic an early scrapped game mechanic without realizing it.
To be fair I don't think any of the Mercs would take to be being told what to do very well
someone could mod it in with Pauling voicelines, maybe?
If I remember Valve's blog post about the scrapped Commander class, the main problem they realized was basically, "If we take into account the average player's (in)competence, what is the chance the Commander will utterly suck at the job?"
@@TF2CrunchyFrog Which given how we see that happen in games both like RTS and non RTS, it makes sense.
@@TF2CrunchyFrog There's also a quote from the in-game dev commentary where they posed this question: "What do you do when you have a bad commander? What do you do when you're a good commander with a bad team?"
Something along those lines.
Sometimes I forget you truly are the master of sound effects in the midst of all the funny shit, cause that tiny little *thump* at 9:13 is just perfection
2:39 I love how you can pinpoint the exact moment the Pyro sees the stickies and he immediately does a double take
it was beautiful.
It's literally the thing from meet the demoman!
This is one of my favorite comments in this video
I cannot get over the double take the pyro does at 2:38. it's like "oh hey stickies- WAIT, STICKIES?!"
Seeing that fresh-install Soldier turn-to-get-shit-on combo’d coupled with SoundSmith’s “ooh, avoid the stickies, turn the corner tight,” was absolute gold
Cloak and Dagger Spies have evolved with a new form of bullying.
Wow, the leak even had footage of the removed commander mode! Neat
That pyro at 2:48 wasn't letting you cook, he just had the phlog and was incapable of safely taking them out
he had the detonator, which destroys stickies with the flare explosions
The secret behind the demo with 700k kills on his sticky launcher.
That demo hitting the door w/ that sound effect is comedy gold
2:36 I love the double take from the Pyro. Like something out of a cartoon.
I like how KJ and gene both have their own special combo with Ethan. KJ has flava and gene has c&d CCTV det
What would all three have?
I don't think I've EVER laughed harder and more consistently at one of your videos. Absolutely nefarious, keep it up you scoundrels
1:13 the look on that Demo's face is perfect
Soundsmith finally understands how the enemies felt during his "your car's extended warranty" demo clip
The most active cloak and dagger user:
Can't wait to find sticky traps around every corner of 2fort when I log on
omg it’s the real soundsmith
@@dukebox8real
2:13 Just don't yell at the scout named "ded" when you're waiting for the det call
Funny how good communication is both one of spy's weaknesses and strengths
You called yourself a CCTV, my brain was like "no he's more like a SSTV (for soundsmith)" then I remembered WW2 and shut myself up really fast on that thought
SoSmTV
Cloak and Dagger Command. Or in other words? The Reverse Human Tripwire
9:07 was the funniest shit ever, never had a kneejerk laugh like that in a LONG while. the editing SOLD it
7:42 Made me laugh so much.
The new Competitive Meta: CCTV Spy from Team Fortress 2.
The ultimate troll weapon in the Spy's arsenal.
aint exactly "new" look at highlander
PLEASE do more of this. This is hilarious and the first time i've actually laughed out loud in a while!
God I wish I had friends who played TF2 so I could do this with them this sounds so fun (when it works lmao)
SoundSmith really knows how to master bait.
Ah yes. The old unregistered hyper cam maneuver.
oh my god maybe that's what i should name my strange c&d
1:20 the demoman watching in pure horror as his teammate dies for apperently no reason, he never recovered from the trauma.
Soundsmith somehow always finds new ways to play this game, and it's always amazing.
I love Oh It's You so I'm glad to hear it here.
Imagine doing that in competitive. You could make dedicated spots.
If things like payload got more popular in comp it would be super op
Not really I don't think
If you've got a spy, you're basically one man down
Unless it's highlander
Sorta forgot about that
this is already what spies do in competitive
This is actually a common thing
Check out Highlander competitive format matches! 9v9, one person per class. Spy actually does this for his Demo, tells who's low HP, tells how much enemy Medic has charged up etc.
2:46
"Hollup, let him cook"
they gotta do this but with a whole team in a call just acting as a total map survailance system with multiple traps it will be great lol
“A Manns guide to the Scottish resistance”
FNaF 50 looking fire🔥
3:50 this summary is hilarious and perfect for this strat
Man I love the A Hat in Time osts you're using
We see the implementation of the cut commander class from the alpha versions of tf2, while it was a “brother in arms” military sim.
3:40 I love that this song is almost 11 years old, it's still great.
4:56 Saddest anime story:
This acout was bleeding, he fell into sources, and when ge thought he finally reached safety, he looked back and saw detonated stickies. He just gave up.
This was so good. Great concept.
*Another* Cloak and Dagger vid by Soundsmith? He's treating us so well, we must've been good critters :D
random critters ;)
magnificent. phenomenal gameplay.
Well then. These exist, i guess.
9:11 Hey now
He's half blind don't be rude.
He is half genius and half blind
Now he’s LITERALLY a spy
Aka a person who sneaks in and retrieves information
6:09 YO THATS ME
imagine kill cam going to spawn and the guy who is dead either confused or thinks he is cheating
Every clock'n'dagger user: bro I'm James Bond 🤯
9:13 That demo just outdumbed you guys xD
Utterly bamboozled hahahaha
Basically just a landmine for Team Fortress 2, but with more laughs.
This is basically like calling an airstrike
Scottish resistance demo + full team of C&D spies sounds like a fun minigame or smth
I have discovered a new way to enjoy tf2 today, thank you soundsmith
Soundsmith feels like the kind of guy that uses bow and arrow in a war
Have you seen him with the huntsman tho? Shnasty
Mad Jack Churchill moment
Fr tho that actually happened in WWII
0:50 family guy death pose
This video epitomizes long range automatic stand.
Soundsmith loves video interaction! Soundsmith loves video interaction!
this is actually a comp strat where demo puts stickies during setup time on payload and spy watches it and calls the det with cnd (only for the first life tho)
This feels like the human caber video if the strat was actually viable
God I WISH I could see the pov of the scout who met a demo in the intel room, took the intel, went back up, went to the bridge then died only to see it zoom back in to the demo in the intel room
9:13 Everyone talks about *thunk* but no one talks about how this is literally a demo in a nutshell, drunk as shit, missing a door, survives the explosion, back away, waves from side to side due to concussion, and then just falls and minds his business somewhere else.
SoundSmith is the only person to find a way to make the Scottish Resistance a viable weapon
this truly is the cloak and dagger command of all time
Amazing video, as always.
Another cloak and dagger video? Samsmith is blessing us.
they really did just make the Black Ops 1 Camera Equipment in TF2
When the cloak is dagger
That thumbnail is cool as heck.
I haven't watched the video yet, but liked.
i love the recent designs for your tf2 thumbnails
2:13 this strat is actually really common in highlander specifically at the beginning of the round in maps like steel with lots of flank routes
This is an incredible idea.
I'm surprised to see Ethan didn't think to actually make the spy pov look like a cctv camera with B/W, wave warp and static overlay. But nevertheless it's a good video idea
When he said det calls I heard debt calls and just imagined a cloak and dagger spy filing paperwork while everyone just died around him.
1:20 I love how the demo just stands there horrified of what he just witnessed