Dire Straits - On Every Street - Mobile Fidelity 2 x 45rpm vinyl LP - how it annihilates the CD
Вставка
- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- This is a shining example of why it is most definitely worth making vinyl LPs, even from digital sources : presenting the superb new MFSL pressing of the final Dire Straits album - On Every Street.
Many thanks to David Brook of www.thevinylad...
I recently got the MoFi 45rm Making Movies (my favourite Dire Straits album) and while it is very good, there is something about the original UK pressing that, for me beats it. It just really kicks.
That’s very interesting. I need to try another one the their albums - one I already have…
Fantastic channel
Thank you very much!
Sound fantastic. Similar treatment that MFSL gave to “Brothers in Arms”.
I’m busting to hear the other MOFI Dire Straits releases…
Wow I have the regular LP and thought it was great, but now my wallet is starting to worry given your positive review.
To be fair I haven't heard the original vinyl release, but there's no doubt this is an amazing sounding record.
Having both the Robert Ludwig of this on LP, I'm still curious as to how the MoFi compares. Not all of the MoFi DS titles are better than the originals. The Making Movies, s/t, and Love Over Gold, to are bested by the originals, whereas the MoFi of Communique beats the decent US and VERY good UK. For Brothers In Arms, there are aspects of the US and UK originals that better the MoFi and aspects of the MoFi that better the originals. So it's not consistent across the board.
I'm really curious to hear these now. Thanks for the comments Jeff.
Love your content, but if you care about audio, please use a proper microphone.
I will bear this in mind. Thanks for your support!
Have the mofi love over gold and brothers in arms and they sound excellent, I have asked mofi why don't they also offer the dsd file for sale, they said storage 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I think they could afford a few hard drives and servers 😁
That was a good question: better than their answer ;-)
To me, they did an incredible job on this. I compared it to a 2013 reissue, and it was a vast difference between the two in MoFi favour. So much more relaxed, but then it envelopes you, and you realize how much more of everything there is in terms of body to instruments, air in the soundstage, etc.
You put that very well. Thanks for sharing your comments.
Nice descriptions of the Mofi and accurate as well. The vinyl version is miles above the CD which I hardly ever listened to. The Mofi has made this a "new" album in a sense, and it's a pleasure to listen to. I'm glad I picked up a copy. Cheers
Glad you agree. Thanks for your feedback.
I have really good ladder dac and have the really good quality even if I play from CD quality and I own this MoFi also, I think this title never came on vinyl before
Hi Darius, checking Discogs I can see it was released on vinyl back in 1991.
I also have a really good ladder DAC.
@@DaveDenyer I see single LP Think too much long of the album for single LP
Dire straits is prog whata revelation! I happened to buy this pressing as well recently and am blown away by how great it sounds (especially the vocals as you mentioned) compared to the 80s sharp sound of the CD. Mofi - the masters of capturing digital sound to vinyl. Great review Dave, this was an underrated album, glad you discovered it. Mofi Brothers in Arms also sounds more present than the digital media. These two last albums were recorded digitally I recall.....who would've thought they'd finally sound better on record!
Nicely put! Thanks for the comment.
Thanks Dave for this review have had this on order since its announcement down here in Australia ours are shipping shortly am really looking forward too listening. I have the MOFIs of all their albums and look forward to completing the series. Really do enjoy your channel and the point of difference you bring to the vinyl community.
Thanks so much for the feedback Darren.
That’s strange I ordered it when first announced and got mine a week or two ago in Australia.
@@love2spinvinyl you must have a better record store than mine lol but they have always come thru on my pre orders so I’m not worried
@@darrens7040 ok cool, that might be the difference then. I ordered directly from Mofi for this.
Great album...have it on standard CD 😆👍
Thanks for your feedback.
My favourite Dire Straits album has changed over the years. It used to be Making Movies, then it was Communique and now for the last several years it is On Every Street. I managed to get a single LP verison of the album which i play a lot. Other than individual songs like Sultans and Industrial Disease, my first real exposure to them was Brothers in Arms. I wish Knopfler would release his early solo albums as stand alone rather then as part of box sets.
Thanks for the feedback. I can see this album growing on me, although Love Over Gold still remains my favourite.
Must admit I’m a bit “on the fence” about whether to go for this. Like you I much prefer it to BIA, but this may be because many of the tracks on BIA were & remain overplayed. IMO the title track on their last album & “You & Your Friend” are as good as anything in the DS catalogue.
If I were you I would try to get a listen to the first 4 MOFI DS albums before you buy. I have them all (not BIA though) and they are a totally different beast to the UK originals & also the Super Bit Mapping CDs which I also have. On my system the MOFIs are much more bass heavy & if this is not to your liking it might annoy you. That’s not to say I don’t like the MOFIs (I do & probably play them more than the OGs or the CDs) it’s just that of all the so called Audiophile re-issues I own, the DS albums differ most from the originals. For my taste & on my system, I find Communique the best sounding & Making Movies the worst sounding of the first 4 MOFIs. Then again Communique is IMO their best album & criminally underrated.
Loving these reviews Dave, keep them coming.
ps my AP,Atlantic 75, LLDOB arrived at the back end of last week & I fully concur with your review. For my money this is the definitive version of this album. Well done for getting a mention on the Acoustic Sounds website for your review!
Thanks for the advice.
Also I have to agree about Communique, at the time, I felt it was the best sounding album I had.
Dave, just thought I’d add a quick ps to my previous comment after finally “biting the bullet” & buying the Mofi BIA, with it now being due to go out of print. IMO this is by far the best I have ever heard this album sound ( I have a UK OG & the SBM remastered CD) & is “a cut above” the first 4 DS Mofi releases. Will definitely get the Mofi On Every Street now.
I’ve got all the mofi dire straits apart from this one, will likely get it next month. I’m a bit love hate with mofi, the ones I like I really like, the ones I don’t I feel quite let down by. But all the dire straits are superb. Thanks so much for the review as always.
You're welcome and thanks for your feedback.
Thank you Dave, I've just ordered it! 🙂
Awesome, I hope you enjoy it.
Great review Dave.
On Every Street is very much the underrated record in the discography.
I have the recent box set from 2020 AAA cuts from Bernie G & digital for Brothers & Every street.
On Every Street is a double 33 rpm .Sounds fantastic.
I also own all the Mofi ( apart from Every street)which are stunning.
Then I started collecting the Uk originals which are incredible & for me for the most part blow away the Mofi.
Have a great day Dave 🤙
Thanks so much for the feedback Liam.
Did buy all the Dire Straits albums as SACD and this one SBM version and it was MEGA
Normally I buy Vinyl but Pink Floyd and Dire Straits have so many silent parts in their songs, to get that in perfection on Vinyl you have to put a lot of money on the table and you have to be lucky on top of that. The SACD and SBM worked totally fine with me.
After hours of listening with friends to all kind of stuff we were of the same opionion that my America debut album as japan press was the best I have in my collection until this album as SBM CD was played and then it was really difficult to say what is the best. This album sounds amazing on SBM CD and I really will not spend any money and that.
I have to mention that I use a Playback Design MPT8-MPD8 combo which is a perfect digital path because of the way the founders knowledge about DSD/SACD.
His DAC is so good at "upscaling" CDs that I can hardly hear a difference to my SACDs. If the CD/SACD was done well it can compete with my very best vinyl with runs on a Clear Audio Ovation with Tracer arm and Goldinger cartridge
Thanks for the feedback.
Great review Sir. Just yesterday I received this, along with The Lamb (John did hang on😊), probably my most significant vinyl delivery ever!
Can’t wait to absorb asap. Thought On Every Street was a real grower when I had it on CD. Brilliant final album from a superb band 👍
Hi John,
Great, I hope you really enjoy both this and The Lamb!
The dynamic sound sculpture is top notch and that makes this album very pleasurable listen.
It seems that the whole Dire Straits line of MoFi at similar high quality. Have posted several video's on my channel, if anywone is interested. Thanks Dave!
i think the worst one is love over gold my quiex sounds much better they did some booboo during the process when they did love over gold at mofi
I'm certainly interested in hearing the MOFI versions of the earlier albums...
Damn. The one I really wanted in the very best format... @@dariuszsalamon9441
My guess is that all MoFi versions may sound "boomboom" comaperd to that very rare limited, promo quiex edition, cos their mastering comes with full dynamic range, which may sound "overkill" compared to this version that hardly can be found in NM condition for a reasonable price, where this one is just USD 60. @@dariuszsalamon9441
That’s the only Mofi Dire Straits I don’t have. I’m probably least familiar with that album. I should stream it and see how it hits me. Maybe it will make me want to order the vinyl. Thanks for the review Dave!
Good luck!
It won't hit you on streaming as the sound quality is bad!!
@@DavidMander-rs4uk good point!
Great video as always - love the album and this version is stellar! Really love the mood and feel of this album and it has never been more inviting than on this version. Great review Dave! Keep up the great work. Cheers!
Glad you liked the video, and thanks for the feedback.
Thank you for speaking to the issue of analog delivery of a digital original. I'd bet this is the critical issue as we go forward.
I agree, it’s an interesting subject. I almost always prefer the vinyl release.
Incredible mofi pressing. Next level.
I agree, it is incredible. Thanks for your feedback.
@@DaveDenyerThank you, Dave!
I don't doubt that these MFSL vinyl records of the Dire Straits albums sound amazing, but I hope that you all see the hypocrisy in digital sourced vinyl records, don't you?
p.s.: isn't it funny that the cover has the same blue colour as the fridge in the background?^
What do you mean hypocrisy? In what way?
The reproduction is a completely different process. The vinyl cutting machine does not care what the music source is and puts the sound on the lacquer which finally goes to the vinyl and vinyl reproduction and as Dave's mentions...annihilates de CD. In the case of MoFi they specify an anlalogue console on the cutting machine which means it receives an electrical impulse...not 1s and 0s. Basically an analogue process to produce the lacquer. There is no way a CD player or any digital playback system reproduce sound as a vinyl record player. It has to do with physics and electricity at the same time. Digital reproduction is limited to do real hi-fi. There is no hypocrisy...is just science.
I just mean that it makes no (real) sense if you press a vinyl record that comes from a digital source. (By the way, english is not my mother language^) A vinyl record is an analog medium, so it is a way to listen to music in an analog way. But if you record the music digitally there is no real mean for an analog medium to listen to it. You can just listen to a SACD or CD or an audio file. I hope I could clear things out^ But if you don't care, and if you only care for the sound in the end, then feel free to buy this vinyl records by MFSL of the Dire Straits albums. They really sound great; but in my opinion it would make more sense if you would buy the SACD of the ones that were digitally recorded.@@SpyderTracks
@@lucalone have you not heard a digital master on both high res and vinyl? Even with digital, for some reason in the conversion to pressings, something in its inferior nature still elevates it very often, no one knows why, but things pressed to wax even from a digital source (assuming a good quality digital file, not mp3 or something) tends to sound better once pressed to vinyl.
I see that differently. For example the best version of Brothers in Arms is the first CD from 1985 ("A full digital recording" written on the cover of this CD pressing). And I have the SACD and the vinyl pressing of Love's Forever Changes made by MFSL. The SACD sounds better than the vinyl version.@@SpyderTracks
Looks like one of those "analog" LPs made from a digital master and most likely mastered in digital domain.
Pretty much pointless. The whole idea of LPs and R2R tapes in 21 century is to get thee actual ANALOG sound.
When it comes to digital sound, SACD/DSD, hi-res or regular PCM is the way to go.
I’d hope my review here illustrates why that is not the case. It is from a digital master as i explain. And it sounds phenomenal!
@@DaveDenyer M'kay.
I have the SACD of "Brothers In Arms " (not the MOFI version) and the vinyl sounds better. Purchased the MOFI SACD of "Love Over gold " and their vinyl on my system is way better. Doesn't make sense but I know what I like.
@@dgross2009 It's probably because your turntable-cartridge-phono-pre-amp combination is better than your SACD player.
Don't get me wrong, I like vinyl too, but I prefer analog vinyl.
But, hey, go for whatever makes you enjoy your music, because this is what the HI-FI is really all about - enjoying music.
@@dgross2009 I agree, there doesn't seem to be much sense in all of this. I generally prefer vinyl but to be fair have invested a lot more in my vinyl playback set up than my digital. Having said that, I don't actually like the sound of most 'high end' digital I've heard, irrespective of price.
All I can do is go by ear, and my emotional response.
So when a band has a really big and successful album then Dave is out. Got it.
LOL, That did happen with Yes (90125 - still love that album but not most of what came after), but it's not a rule I enforce that often. ;-)
Nice! 👍
Hmm, it is hard to compare the vinyl against qubus.
I mean we that love LPs we tweak the LP front-end to our liking and there is a sea of things to adjust in our primary format.
For the digital there is not so many things to tweak..
And another thing is that I highly suspect that the digital files that the record labels (not all of them) supplies, to LP pressing plants and the files that they supply for different digital formats.
Is not the same!
Becouce some new digitally recorded albums on "Dynamic Range DB" have greater dynamic range on LP than any digital format.
How is that possible?
One possible explanation is that those digital original files on a computer. At that point it is easy to run a simpel batch job to run all the files for the album through signal processing techniques such as dynamic range compression and equalization.
With a singel number to set the level of dynamic range COMPRESSION..
So in short they are not the same files..
It is bullet proof for the record labels when there is a low risk to supply better quality (lower compression level == greater dynamic range) to LP pressing plants when the LP format IS inherent copy protection in itself.😅
But what do I know.. 🎉
You make some good points here. I do have CD rips of this album too. They often sound superior to the Qobuz / Tidal streams, even the higher bit rate ones... On top fo that I am sure they change what's on these servers from time to time (maybe without telling us). Im sure for example, that the Tori Amos - Scarlett's walk version on Qobuz I was moaning about recently has been replaced with a better (but still inferior to the original CD) version...
But I may be wrong... ;-)
@@DaveDenyer Yes, that is interesting.
And a issue with streaming that we don't know version/heritage of what we are consuming.😢
Another conclusion that you can do with YOUR findings in your comment.
That even if we have higher bitrate as you say, that has NOTHING to do with sound quality! In a way, let me explain.
If we now concider that they they for example vary the compression level from 0 to 10 there 0 is no compression and 10 is maximum compression (just for a theoretical understanding).
If we have the digital masters and record label decide to supply to CD pressing plants files that is slightly/lightly compressed (affect dynamic range) with level 2.
Then they supply also from the same digital masters to qubus other files that has HIGHER bitrate and maybe we coincider that as high resolution..
But they "generate" those new set of files BUT now they maybe use compression level no 4.
Now that results in firstly not the same files and in files that is high resolution BUT with lower dynamic range!!
So in practice it doesn't matter what high resolution format we use from a sound QUALITY perspective.
When the FORMAT has better and higher resolution AND the capabilities to be ABLE to give us better sound.
But if/when that doesn't matter ANYTHING when the data file/track the use has been first manhandled by compression and AFTER that we put it into a high resolution format..
(people don't understand this they just think that higher bitrate is automatically higher sound quality. But if we put a file with degraded quality in the worlds highest resolution format that will not in any way make that to sound better.. The only thing it does as you could hear is that it will make it easier to hear in a A/B comperison that it actually sounds worse.. So it is ALL abut the MATERIAL/FILES/DATA that we put on our format medium (CD, sacd, 4xDSD..))
Shit in is shit out..
And again we have NO CLUE and no transparency/traceability so we as consumers are in the dark. 😮😢
It may be a logical decision that record labels will actually have "higher compression" the higher resolution we go.
They most likely will protect their asset.. 😅
If they don't compress and put out essentially the digital masters more or less "untampered" on a higher resolution format.
And we knew it.. 😮
Then there is No reason to buy that song/album again.. When it can't get better any than that..
That is what record labels are afraid of when it is their highest and there where they get most money from today!
To release old music again..💵
For example we see on Discogs that dark side of the moon has 1308 different releases over all formats..
So when a new format comes along whit superior resolution the they make again money on DSOTM.. No 1309 then.. 😂
And we get again a compressed variant.. And they get money again. ❤
Just that were one of the reasons why CD discs (not all of them) got a bad reputation when we are in the digital domain (for the first time) it is easy to run that compression batch job. If it were that they wanted it louder than other record labels releases or other reasons.. 😅
Enough with conspiracy theories for a day.. 😢
But it is crazy that WE have no clue on how and what they have done with the product (original masters) before they package it and sell that again to us. ❤😂
I honestly don’t think we’ll ever get complete transparency to be honest. CDs, Qobuz, Tidal etc. these are designed as consumer formats and the full technical specs might not seem relevant nor even desirable...
Think of them as the MacDonald’s of music. For example: think of Analogue Productions as an organic, whole-food restaurant where every ingredient is natural and of the best quality. By contrast CD, regular vinyl, Qobuz etc are the fast food chain restaurants. Cheap, aimed at the mass-market who probably wouldn’t want to know what’s really in their burger anyway…