Hi Thomas. I like it that you showed us a bit more after the shooting. I do belive it was the first time we sawsomething near gralloching in one of your hunting videos. For me it's a part of hunting as is the preparation of the venison and the cooking (if there is one to do). Great job and thanks for your hard work!
Thanks for that, I wish all hard work could be this enjoyable. Unusually lucky with the weather on this trip, so that makes everything that much easier.
Did I hear right, he said you were too slow..? I thought you did a excellent job! You must be a wizard at cooking Venison Thomas! Thanks for the video.. Dan
Yup, he was a bit disappointed I wasn't able to shoot all them. No, I'm better with red fish and gamebirds than venison. All of these deer enter the commercial foodchain via gamedealers, so there's very strict rules regarding what I can and cannot do with the deer.
I wasn't aware that game dealers took animals from anyone but professional hunters. In Australia, to the best of my knowledge, every animal must be head shot to be considered suitable for human consumption. Well either way Thomas, it was still impressive shooting in my book!
My Grendel will have to stay missed I'm afraid. It was a nice little rifle, but I didn't read the Swedish legislation properly and it wasn't legal for the ptarmigan on the mountain so it had to go. Tried to replace it with a 221 Fireball (failed project) so ended up with a 17 HMR.
Does the legislation allow for say .. a .20 calibre centrefire ? They seem to have long reach and good supply of powder and ammo. Many variants too. Keep up the good work Thomas :)
Thanks, glad you liked it. It is not that hard in these hills as there's almost always a small dip or other terrain feature that can be used to break line of sight.
Hi Thomas, congratulations on your successful stalk and hunt. Sorry to hear you can't bring the venison home but I guess that is to be expected considering you are hunting in a different country. I took my first deer near the end of November with my Tikka T3, a nice 8-point whitetail. Granted it was from a much shorter distance than what you accomplished here. Happy new year and thanks for the videos.
Congratulations, hope it was a good experience! I don't know if you have game butchers in your area, but if you do I highly recommend them. The money spent is usually recovered with the extra sausages etc produced.
I've seen the fallow in Sweden, but don't really know anything about their behavior or habits. For some reason I have the "bambi deer" syndrome when I look at fallow, I think of cultivated city parks and renessaince gardens. Probably a result of seeing them in deer parks.
Ive just spent a week near there but in forestry and above the tree line. 5 days, 6 hinds my trusty .270. Nice shooting. The higher pitched crack is your signal to shoot the next. If it is a dull thump, you have problems and need to shoot again.
So I've been told and have been coached to follow that rule. When my Sordin ear defenders doesn't cut the noise at the wrong time (my current pair are not 100%) it works fine. Was this the same type of economic forestry I'm used to further south? I've grown somewhat weary of the large, ravaged clearcuts and it was very nice to see something else.
Yes, although the hinds I shot where on the tree line going on the hill, some in corries, but not clear fell as it is a ballache dragging though that stuff.
Vackert! I did some red deer stalking and hunting this November, went very well! Even had nice weather in Scotland which is rare. Definitely going back next year :)
Hagge Bänke First time I visited this part of Scotland myslf, it will not be the last. Compared to roe, very nice to wake up at a normal time and know the deer will be on the hill and visible.
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***** I was near Dumfries. Very beautiful countryside. More people compared to northern Sweden where I usually hunt. And I agree with waking up at a normal time ;)
Aberdeen airport is actually very accessible. I have "fastest access" to Scotland via that airport. Edinburgh is ok, Newcastle I try to avoid due a few poor experiences at that airport.
Thanks! I wouldn't mind making longer films, but there's just too much at present. My tiny computer almost chokes when I'm approaching 10 minutes film.
I was chatting with you a week or so ago on here. I am from Newfoundland Canada. Long moose season here. Moose season runs beginning of October until end of January. I have either sex licence
Yes I remember now, you did caribou as well. Hard to keep track of the nicks. Good luck to you and don't shoot the moose in a stupid place - downhill is better than uphill when it comes to dragging! :D
I try to take out what I think is the lead doe "oldest " and if she drops usually the others stay put for follow up shots on other deer. Being allowed to take three does a day I use this strategy.
I have used 25-06 with 117g SST, for deer shooting in Scotland and my homeland,Wales for 20yrs and now Tahr and Chamois in S.Island NZ. It is much better than 7x64/270 etc. I have just purchased a mk 5 Accumark in 257 Weatherby mag for a trial with 110g Accubonds on longer range animals.
Should work fine, the 25 caliber combines velocity and low recoil very well. Over here you'd be hard pressed to find a 25 of any kind, I saw a 25-06 perhaps 20 years ago and have never seen one in a hunters hand. This is mostly due to legislation, a 25-06 wouldn't be legal for anything bigger than roe which will push most people over to a 6,5x55 or a 308 so they can shoot red deer etc.
fisherhunter66 Thanks! I use an RPS Titanium, it weighs around 450 grams. Yes, center of gravity is low, I'll never go back to a model that puts the rifle on top. Several manufacturers have discovered the benefit of such construction, so I think shooters will have more and more choice here.
That was freakin´amazing shooting, young man! And not only doing the shooting with your rifle, but even the shooting with your camera and the post production is something sepcial as well. You are about to become the hunter´s version of Lars Monsen....;-)
I really, really hope I don't have to suffer as much as Lars Monsen; I remember especially well in Across Canada when he was sledding across Hudson Bay with shin-high water on top of the ice. What a misery and simply not possible to strike camp anywhere, talk about being vulnerable to a change in weather. But I will try to improve the films a little in 2017 as I will be investing in external microphones and figure out how to edit sound in post-production.
THLR.NO - give my great friend and colleague Esben Holm in Prosit Production in Tromsø a call. Hi will we happy to give you some advise regarding the sound isssues.
Nice video and very good shooting ! Judging by the smoke, that buggy must be a "smelly" two-stroke engine.... :-) Two questions : 1. I've noticed you do not use disposable (latex) gloves for gralloching....is there a reason ? 2. Why don't you consider using a cartridge holder to put on your rifle's stock ? Very handy for quick reloading....:-)
Thanks for that Giuseppe. I'm not a mechanic, but there certainly was something wrong with that Argo. 1) I forgot to pack them. I do use gloves, not latex but vinyl as they are stronger. 2) You will see it in a later film. The rifle doesn't leave the shoulder when I'm reloading, so having the cartridges on the riflestock is an awkward place to reach. I also don't like exposing my ammunition to possible pollution until the very last moment. I will most likely have to make a special flip-open holder in a signal colour, the plastic box certainly doesn't do this job well enough.
stsekse Always good to know "hvor landet ligger". He is of course right, he literary hunts for a living and the imposed conduct from my own hunting culture (make sure deer is dead, watch it fall) doesn't work too well for him (shot felt good, heard the smack, deermis dead on its feet -next deer!). He was a little disappointed I didn't get all of them.
In theory it can be had in any scope, but I have not approached any makers with this reticle, it was made as a demonstration piece to show/explore how certain design element will impact the shooter's workload. The design chosen is not the commercial product. It works very well, but this Concept design is too radical to be a commercial success. If manufacturers perceived a market demand, I'm sure it would be out. I have however contributed to designs that could possibly be available late next year.
Hoi thomas when you make a shot without your silencer an hour after sunset ( low light conditions) what about the muzzle flashes. I do not know if this is the the correct word. My first rifle was a 7 remington magnum. I could not see what the reaction was of the deer or other animal when the bullet hit it.because of the muzzle flashes. Is this also the same for the 6.5-284 . Here in belgium is not legal to use a silencer. what about your new reticle?
Muzzle flash is not an issue when using silencers, it hides a flash very well compared to ordinary barrels. My new reticle? It is a demonstration piece, it is not for commercial sale. The commercial version has about the same functionality, but it is not so radical in design.
Triple Weidmannsheil Thomas! In Holland we say 'kogelslag' when talking about the 'smack' but I find it difficult to hear it and trust upon. Great country you hunt in, unfortunately no usable website at albadeerstalking.co.uk
I think they are working on it, but they are on Facebook as well. I ended up with Alba by chance, I put a post on a forum "where do I go?" and Andrew grabbed hold of me. Can't say I regret it, a very fortunate coincidence for me. Good to see some scenery other than the forests.
I prefer not to be to explicit, but the hints are all in the film. Just eyeball it, it'll be close enough. Yes the last deer was shot in the only vital spot that was presented to me. I measured it for size with the reticle, and the target number it was larger than my accuracy number.
No, there is no critique in his statement, only appraisal as he IS coaching me to be a better hunter - he is literary showing me the ropes as I asked him to. Here's what I got from his input "Thomas, your shooting is perfect, but if you learn to listen for the smack of the bullet you will know that the deer is dead on it's feet. The smack makes it safe for you to switch to the next deer, and with your shooting, that's almost 20 seconds you can use to shoot more deer. When you learn to listen to the smack, your speed will move to the next level..." So no, it was no critique. It was a huge compliment and the coaching I needed to improve.
Excellent shooting and video as usual, bud! No luck on an elk this year here in Montana. I was wondering what kind of cheek riser you have for your norma? I need a cheek riser for my T-4 manners stock but don't want to send it in to get one built just yet and the one on yours looks perfect! Also, how many rounds do you have downrange on that barrel burner of a round? I have heard the norma runs quite hot. I volunteered for a gun competition here last weekend and most of the competitors were shooting 6.5 creed, some 6.5 lapua/6mm lapua, and one guy was shooting a highly modified 6.5x284 norma with a proof research carbon fiber barrel. It appeared to do very well competition wise, and the wind was a major factor, but those barrels are easily $1200+ USD after chambering...not exactly an economical choice for competition guns, IMHO, unless you have deep pockets(which this kid appeared to have). Cheers, Darrin
I get roughly 2500 rounds in my 6,5x284. It still shoots, but it doesn't have that "extra" at 600m then. With a 6,5x55/6,5x47/6,5 Creedmoor I'd expect closer to 4000, so it's really a no-brainer if you intend to shoot. I'll be switching back to 6,5x55 myself, simply because it is such an easy cartridge to shoot in Norway. If I could chose ANY and have ANY 6,5 available for the same money, I'd most likely go for Creedmoor. I have this cheekrest vertebrae.no/thlr-cheek-rest.html?SID=0lukqnmr8roci88f404js03bh4, but I'd say you get much of the same function from this www.triadtactical.com/Triad-Stock-Pack.html or even this www.hornady.com/store/Hornady-Cheek-Piece/.
Why I did not use the Grendel for red deer? I have sold my Grendel rifle as I had no use for it. Here is a survey that shows what other people are using their Grendel to hunt www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?10955-Grendel-quot-knock-down-quot-survey./page18
I think I'd lose a lot of what I enjoy if I left the cameras behind. I find working with dogs intensely satisfying, but also very nice to know that I've captured enough details from the hunt to give a fair picture of the hunt. I've never been able to capture a hunt 100%, but at least the films are a fair representation of the hunt.
Hi Thomas, Thanks for the film. Are you also using the A-Max on the red deer? Or are you shooting something else? Couldn't spot the red tips in the video. All the best and keep it up :)
All the deer are processed into the foodchain via game dealers. That's why you never see me butcher a deer, very strict rules as to what I am allowed to do and how I need to deliver the deer.
It is Bergans Microlight Anorak colour pale olive. It is windproof and breathes exceptionally well due the thin fabric, by far my favorite hunting jacket for weather like this. With a wool sweater underneat it is really nice for all dry weather. It is no longer made in hunting colours, but it is possible to find some on the internet in correct colours www.greenland-outdoor.de/bergans-bergans-microlight-anorak-pale-olive.html. If you want a waterproof jacket, Orvis makes a waterproof (more noise) jacket with similar qualities www.orvis.com/p/encounter-jacket/2cl0
Tactical Tshirts Literary hundreds. One of the guys needed close to a thousand deer taken from his lands, another must shoot roughly 700 in the forest, from the areas in this film they need to take of 1200/1500 I think it was. So a lot of deer on few hands. There just isn't enough leisure hunters to manage the lands properly.
If the landowners are brave enough to bring some wolves in, the deer will soon be under control. Controversial though. It'll sure scare the folk who are out backpacking. I've been surrounded by a pack of dingoes in the Australian Alps. Their howling as they form up at night puts a shiver in your spine.
Good shooting sir! But let that be a lesson.... no quick enough between the 1st n 2nd shot. Ye heard it hit, reload and shoot again😄. I'll bet you were buzzing like a fridge after that day out. Well done 👍
raymiebhoy100 Yeah, it actually was a good lesson. Can't say I'm confident enough to leave the deer before it falls. Was shooting deer in harder weather later this autumn, and his lessons was certainly helpful for me to be harder on the deer.
I think it is the ethical and responsible thing to do to stay on the deer until you are 100% sure that it will die. I have learnt this the hard way with a Brindled Gnu in South Africa. Shot the second one after not making sure the first one was dead, spent the whole day tracking it which could have been avoided by making sure it is dead. So although the guide said you were too slow, I think you did the right thing.
Thanks for that! Yes, I too tend to watch them or shoot them again if I'm uncertain. The first reds I shot had a few bullet holes in them as I'm very much used to roe deer dropping straight down, the reds simply needs a few seconds extra to die.
Yes, the professional heard the solid smack of the bullet when it hit the animal, and with HIS experience he could tell right away that the deer was hit good and would die soon. I did not hear the smack of the bullet as my ear defenders cut off the sound.
a shot to the chest is a very solid thud and sounds different to a shot that is too far back i.e. the guts, which can sound like a wet slap and can also sound like a pop if you hit the stomach. Thats a massive positive with the sound moderators in that you can hear the impact much more clearly! Roughly how far out was that last one? Long time between impact and the sound coming back!
Yes, I think sound moderators and bipods are the two biggest improvements to overall deer stalking. The distance was nothing spectacular, and I prefer not to be explicit about it.
Well we actually prefer "nothing spectacular" on the bit that I stalk in Scotland, it shows superior stalking skills, sportsmanship and respect for the quarry in ensuring a clean kill every time. We try and limit our shots to within 200, or 300m VERY maximum!
MrFREDANG Same ethics as me then. I think I shot my gems at 30m and tahr at 70m, but that was me stalking for myself and not somebody elses cull. A quick kill and clean carcass is needed regardless of range.
I use 6,5x284 with 140gr bullets for all my hunts. Hornady Amax, SST, ELD, Nosler Ballistic Tip, Sierra Gameking etc.. they all seem to produce identical results.
It is rare here too. 7x64 is very, very similar and should do exactly the same thing on deer. If I were shooting 7mm, I'd use the 7x64 myself - many good bullets and quality brass available. Here, 6,5mm bullets are more available than 7mm as 6,5x55 can almost be considered our national calibre.
We've been seeing growing popularity of the 8x57 with the growing wild boar population in Sweden, as well as the 9,3x62 which has always been fairly popular here. 7x64 has for some reason never caught on (strong 6,5mm competition I suspect) and of course 308 and 30-06 is very popular.
Andrian Drian No. I shot deer no 1 and tracked it until it died. When I saw it fall, I quickly shot deer no 2, hence the two deer falling at the same time.
TH1NOR Nå er det høysesong på avskyting før mørke og vinter, de fleste synes ikke fikse kunder før uti februar. Shaun er borte, så han kan du glemme. Alba deer nås best gjennom Facebook hvor den yngre delen av firmaet styrer.
PredatorTT Waidmannsdank. He would have liked me to shoot all the deer. If I had heard the smack of the bullet on the first deer, I would have realized it was dead on its feet. That would have given me almost 20 seconds to shoot more deer.
wow, 1220 - 1500 is a lot of deer, so now i can understand him, that he want to see you shooting more deer. u r a excelent shooter and u where able to do shoot all (or more then the three) in this short time-window
Not really, I just drop any pretence of studied intonation and speak English in my Norwegian dialect. After all, we had a fair amount of Vikings travelling from Norway to Scotland and the languages had a fairly large exchange of words and expressions.
The most impressive thing in this video is your humbleness, keep on learning! :)
Thanks. I am after all just the result of other people's training and inputs. These skills are very transferable.
Hi Thomas. I like it that you showed us a bit more after the shooting. I do belive it was the first time we sawsomething near gralloching in one of your hunting videos. For me it's a part of hunting as is the preparation of the venison and the cooking (if there is one to do). Great job and thanks for your hard work!
Thanks for that, I wish all hard work could be this enjoyable. Unusually lucky with the weather on this trip, so that makes everything that much easier.
Did I hear right, he said you were too slow..? I thought you did a excellent job! You must be a wizard at cooking Venison Thomas! Thanks for the video.. Dan
Yup, he was a bit disappointed I wasn't able to shoot all them. No, I'm better with red fish and gamebirds than venison. All of these deer enter the commercial foodchain via gamedealers, so there's very strict rules regarding what I can and cannot do with the deer.
I wasn't aware that game dealers took animals from anyone but professional hunters. In Australia, to the best of my knowledge, every animal must be head shot to be considered suitable for human consumption. Well either way Thomas, it was still impressive shooting in my book!
Beautiful video in every regard. Thank you very much Thomas for taking the time and effort to put these togather for us...
P.S
I miss your Grendel...
My Grendel will have to stay missed I'm afraid. It was a nice little rifle, but I didn't read the Swedish legislation properly and it wasn't legal for the ptarmigan on the mountain so it had to go. Tried to replace it with a 221 Fireball (failed project) so ended up with a 17 HMR.
Does the legislation allow for say .. a .20 calibre centrefire ? They seem to have long reach and good supply of powder and ammo. Many variants too. Keep up the good work Thomas :)
Pao emantega Not sure, I expect the 204 ruger would be too volatile for a gamebird so haven't investigated.
stalking in open land is tough. Last Weekend a deer saw my head at 400m and all 20 deer were gone... Good job by you and your guide.
Thanks, glad you liked it. It is not that hard in these hills as there's almost always a small dip or other terrain feature that can be used to break line of sight.
It's always better to learn from other peoples mistakes, thank you for your video, great.
Thanks for that, thanks for taking the time.
Hi Thomas, congratulations on your successful stalk and hunt. Sorry to hear you can't bring the venison home but I guess that is to be expected considering you are hunting in a different country.
I took my first deer near the end of November with my Tikka T3, a nice 8-point whitetail. Granted it was from a much shorter distance than what you accomplished here. Happy new year and thanks for the videos.
Congratulations, hope it was a good experience! I don't know if you have game butchers in your area, but if you do I highly recommend them. The money spent is usually recovered with the extra sausages etc produced.
THLR.NO Yes, my freezer is now full for the winter!
Boreal Ranger Good!
Perfect video as always ! Superb shooting Thomas !
winchestermg Thanks for taking the time! The reds certainly was different than the roe. Much bigger and usually no vegetation to cover the animal.
Almost the same here with the fallows,the have different behavior than roes.
I've seen the fallow in Sweden, but don't really know anything about their behavior or habits. For some reason I have the "bambi deer" syndrome when I look at fallow, I think of cultivated city parks and renessaince gardens. Probably a result of seeing them in deer parks.
Ive just spent a week near there but in forestry and above the tree line. 5 days, 6 hinds my trusty .270. Nice shooting. The higher pitched crack is your signal to shoot the next. If it is a dull thump, you have problems and need to shoot again.
So I've been told and have been coached to follow that rule. When my Sordin ear defenders doesn't cut the noise at the wrong time (my current pair are not 100%) it works fine. Was this the same type of economic forestry I'm used to further south? I've grown somewhat weary of the large, ravaged clearcuts and it was very nice to see something else.
Yes, although the hinds I shot where on the tree line going on the hill, some in corries, but not clear fell as it is a ballache dragging though that stuff.
Yeah, who hasn't disappeared into a hidden pit after a few trips. It's almost strange one doesn't see more injuries from that work.
Horrible stuff.. though not as bad as going face first into a wallow...
Haha, no haven't done that yet.
Vackert! I did some red deer stalking and hunting this November, went very well! Even had nice weather in Scotland which is rare. Definitely going back next year :)
Hagge Bänke First time I visited this part of Scotland myslf, it will not be the last. Compared to roe, very nice to wake up at a normal time and know the deer will be on the hill and visible.
***** I was near Dumfries. Very beautiful countryside. More people compared to northern Sweden where I usually hunt. And I agree with waking up at a normal time ;)
Look into the areas Aberdeen-Inverness and further north as well. I think you'd really enjoy the Highlands and the coastline up there.
***** I will, thank you.
Aberdeen airport is actually very accessible. I have "fastest access" to Scotland via that airport. Edinburgh is ok, Newcastle I try to avoid due a few poor experiences at that airport.
Every day is a school day. Yet more great shooting, thanks for sharing.
It should be, makes life more interesting. Hoping to step back to the very basics and do a new build-up of skill next season.
Fantastic scenery, excellent shooting and to short video ;-)
Thanks! I wouldn't mind making longer films, but there's just too much at present. My tiny computer almost chokes when I'm approaching 10 minutes film.
Great videos Thomas! Ptarmigan season is closed here,dogs getting rest. Gearing up for moose hunting here
gordy321 Whereabouts are you hunting? Moose is done at my end, waiting for February to ski after ptarmigan.
I was chatting with you a week or so ago on here. I am from Newfoundland Canada. Long moose season here. Moose season runs beginning of October until end of January. I have either sex licence
Yes I remember now, you did caribou as well. Hard to keep track of the nicks. Good luck to you and don't shoot the moose in a stupid place - downhill is better than uphill when it comes to dragging! :D
I like your videos and I can learn a lot from them even if I have no hunting and weapons license continue
Thanks for that, glad you find them useful!
Takk for enda en flott video! Jeg har fulgt med en stund, og lært veldig mye av kunnskapen din. Stå på - jeg gleder meg allerede til neste video.
Mange takk for det Kristian, jeg tror det blir ytterligere 4-5 jaktfilmer fra denne sesongen.
Wow- well done, Thomas!
Weidmannsheil from Austria!
Klaus Eder Waidmannsdank, many thanksø
I try to take out what I think is the lead doe "oldest " and if she drops usually the others stay put for follow up shots on other deer. Being allowed to take three does a day I use this strategy.
It's a good strategy if the kids are old enough, it really does give you those extra seconds you need.
I have used 25-06 with 117g SST, for deer shooting in Scotland and my homeland,Wales for 20yrs and now Tahr and Chamois in S.Island NZ.
It is much better than 7x64/270 etc.
I have just purchased a mk 5 Accumark in 257 Weatherby mag for a trial with 110g Accubonds on longer range animals.
Should work fine, the 25 caliber combines velocity and low recoil very well. Over here you'd be hard pressed to find a 25 of any kind, I saw a 25-06 perhaps 20 years ago and have never seen one in a hunters hand. This is mostly due to legislation, a 25-06 wouldn't be legal for anything bigger than roe which will push most people over to a 6,5x55 or a 308 so they can shoot red deer etc.
thanks for a great video very nice area and great shooting as always, what bipod is that you are using? looks very light and low c of g
fisherhunter66 Thanks! I use an RPS Titanium, it weighs around 450 grams. Yes, center of gravity is low, I'll never go back to a model that puts the rifle on top. Several manufacturers have discovered the benefit of such construction, so I think shooters will have more and more choice here.
great shooting and landscape. thanks for sharing! 🖒
CT Thanks glad you liked the scenery!
That was freakin´amazing shooting, young man! And not only doing the shooting with your rifle, but even the shooting with your camera and the post production is something sepcial as well. You are about to become the hunter´s version of Lars Monsen....;-)
I really, really hope I don't have to suffer as much as Lars Monsen; I remember especially well in Across Canada when he was sledding across Hudson Bay with shin-high water on top of the ice. What a misery and simply not possible to strike camp anywhere, talk about being vulnerable to a change in weather. But I will try to improve the films a little in 2017 as I will be investing in external microphones and figure out how to edit sound in post-production.
THLR.NO - give my great friend and colleague Esben Holm in Prosit Production in Tromsø a call. Hi will we happy to give you some advise regarding the sound isssues.
That rifle has served you well over the years. Good shooting sir.
Mike Mcmillan Thanks, yes it has been with me longer than any other rifle. It just works very well, no issues and dependable.
Solid. Dependable. Reliable. You're Rifle is fantastic.
👍👍 Great Video!!! Beautiful country!!!!
Thanks for that Jeff. I'll try and improve the sound in 2017, I am researching external microphones for the cameras this winter.
Nice video and very good shooting ! Judging by the smoke, that buggy must be a "smelly" two-stroke engine.... :-) Two questions : 1. I've noticed you do not use disposable (latex) gloves for gralloching....is there a reason ? 2. Why don't you consider using a cartridge holder to put on your rifle's stock ? Very handy for quick reloading....:-)
Thanks for that Giuseppe. I'm not a mechanic, but there certainly was something wrong with that Argo. 1) I forgot to pack them. I do use gloves, not latex but vinyl as they are stronger. 2) You will see it in a later film. The rifle doesn't leave the shoulder when I'm reloading, so having the cartridges on the riflestock is an awkward place to reach. I also don't like exposing my ammunition to possible pollution until the very last moment. I will most likely have to make a special flip-open holder in a signal colour, the plastic box certainly doesn't do this job well enough.
Always nice to get a "ærlig tilbakemelding". Nice shooting still.
stsekse Always good to know "hvor landet ligger". He is of course right, he literary hunts for a living and the imposed conduct from my own hunting culture (make sure deer is dead, watch it fall) doesn't work too well for him (shot felt good, heard the smack, deermis dead on its feet -next deer!). He was a little disappointed I didn't get all of them.
Thomas. When is your reticule Going to be available to the public? Also what make of scope will feature it? Nice shooting by the way!
In theory it can be had in any scope, but I have not approached any makers with this reticle, it was made as a demonstration piece to show/explore how certain design element will impact the shooter's workload. The design chosen is not the commercial product. It works very well, but this Concept design is too radical to be a commercial success. If manufacturers perceived a market demand, I'm sure it would be out. I have however contributed to designs that could possibly be available late next year.
Another great video Thomas :)
Thanks for that Paal.
Hoi thomas when you make a shot without your silencer an hour after sunset ( low light conditions) what about the muzzle flashes. I do not know if this is the the correct word. My first rifle was a 7 remington magnum. I could not see what the reaction was of the deer or other animal when the bullet hit it.because of the muzzle flashes. Is this also the same for the 6.5-284 . Here in belgium is not legal to use a silencer. what about your new reticle?
Muzzle flash is not an issue when using silencers, it hides a flash very well compared to ordinary barrels. My new reticle? It is a demonstration piece, it is not for commercial sale. The commercial version has about the same functionality, but it is not so radical in design.
Super film, thanks for sharing.
Thanks, glad you liked it. I'm hoping to have better control over sound next year so you don't have to listen to all that wind.
Thomas have you ever the snow falls?))
trollius troglodytes If we have snow yet? Yes. And wind. And rain...
Very good movie, fascinating that he was disappointed. Apparently, another hunting culture than here in Norway
No, he wasn't disappointed. He was more encouraging me to improve. I asked and he answered.
Triple Weidmannsheil Thomas! In Holland we say 'kogelslag' when talking about the 'smack' but I find it difficult to hear it and trust upon.
Great country you hunt in, unfortunately no usable website at albadeerstalking.co.uk
I think they are working on it, but they are on Facebook as well. I ended up with Alba by chance, I put a post on a forum "where do I go?" and Andrew grabbed hold of me. Can't say I regret it, a very fortunate coincidence for me. Good to see some scenery other than the forests.
Hello from canada! New subscriber and liking your videos :)
Ray Thanks for that, hope you found something useful.
Вы отличный снайпер!👏Сколько метров было до цели?
Not really sure, I do not remember these things.
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hell of a shot thlr... what was te range of the deers, that last one was it a head shot? thanks again for these images
I prefer not to be to explicit, but the hints are all in the film. Just eyeball it, it'll be close enough. Yes the last deer was shot in the only vital spot that was presented to me. I measured it for size with the reticle, and the target number it was larger than my accuracy number.
Good shooting!! Could the pro actually have shot better than what you did or does he only critique?
No, there is no critique in his statement, only appraisal as he IS coaching me to be a better hunter - he is literary showing me the ropes as I asked him to. Here's what I got from his input "Thomas, your shooting is perfect, but if you learn to listen for the smack of the bullet you will know that the deer is dead on it's feet. The smack makes it safe for you to switch to the next deer, and with your shooting, that's almost 20 seconds you can use to shoot more deer. When you learn to listen to the smack, your speed will move to the next level..." So no, it was no critique. It was a huge compliment and the coaching I needed to improve.
And yes, I've seen pros shoot deer. They tend to be FAST, at a different level than me.
Excellent shooting and video as usual, bud! No luck on an elk this year here in Montana.
I was wondering what kind of cheek riser you have for your norma? I need a cheek riser for my T-4 manners stock but don't want to send it in to get one built just yet and the one on yours looks perfect! Also, how many rounds do you have downrange on that barrel burner of a round? I have heard the norma runs quite hot. I volunteered for a gun competition here last weekend and most of the competitors were shooting 6.5 creed, some 6.5 lapua/6mm lapua, and one guy was shooting a highly modified 6.5x284 norma with a proof research carbon fiber barrel. It appeared to do very well competition wise, and the wind was a major factor, but those barrels are easily $1200+ USD after chambering...not exactly an economical choice for competition guns, IMHO, unless you have deep pockets(which this kid appeared to have).
Cheers,
Darrin
I get roughly 2500 rounds in my 6,5x284. It still shoots, but it doesn't have that "extra" at 600m then. With a 6,5x55/6,5x47/6,5 Creedmoor I'd expect closer to 4000, so it's really a no-brainer if you intend to shoot. I'll be switching back to 6,5x55 myself, simply because it is such an easy cartridge to shoot in Norway. If I could chose ANY and have ANY 6,5 available for the same money, I'd most likely go for Creedmoor. I have this cheekrest vertebrae.no/thlr-cheek-rest.html?SID=0lukqnmr8roci88f404js03bh4, but I'd say you get much of the same function from this www.triadtactical.com/Triad-Stock-Pack.html or even this www.hornady.com/store/Hornady-Cheek-Piece/.
Thomas, why is not choose Grendel, it is not enough for red deer ,i live in Brazil i can not hunt s....
Why I did not use the Grendel for red deer? I have sold my Grendel rifle as I had no use for it. Here is a survey that shows what other people are using their Grendel to hunt www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?10955-Grendel-quot-knock-down-quot-survey./page18
What are the L and S marks for on the scope body, under the turret ?
Long and Short. Corresponds to AIM SHORT and AIM LONG in the reticle. For making quick shots. See details here ua-cam.com/video/kTkxSRLKYto/v-deo.html
Awesome video. I see more and more speed/proficiency in your hunts. I can only imagine if you didn't have the mental burden of cameras.
I think I'd lose a lot of what I enjoy if I left the cameras behind. I find working with dogs intensely satisfying, but also very nice to know that I've captured enough details from the hunt to give a fair picture of the hunt. I've never been able to capture a hunt 100%, but at least the films are a fair representation of the hunt.
THLR.NO. Completely understand. My comment was only to be a compliment. Look forward to the next vid.
JimmyGunXD556 I know, I don't think I've ever received an unfriendly word from you. :)
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for the film.
Are you also using the A-Max on the red deer? Or are you shooting something else? Couldn't spot the red tips in the video.
All the best and keep it up :)
Yes. Amax, ELD, Gameking, Ballistic tip, SST - as long as it's 140gr it seems to do exactly the same job.
How long is your 6.5 x 284 barrel? Great videos, thank you.
Mike Cleveland Thanks! It's 20"
Awesome. What do you do with all the meat?
All the deer are processed into the foodchain via game dealers. That's why you never see me butcher a deer, very strict rules as to what I am allowed to do and how I need to deliver the deer.
Great job!
Klaus Eder Thanks for that Klaus!
Good stuff
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Thanks for that, glad you took the time!
What brand is the sweatshirt??? Is waterprof?
It is Bergans Microlight Anorak colour pale olive. It is windproof and breathes exceptionally well due the thin fabric, by far my favorite hunting jacket for weather like this. With a wool sweater underneat it is really nice for all dry weather. It is no longer made in hunting colours, but it is possible to find some on the internet in correct colours www.greenland-outdoor.de/bergans-bergans-microlight-anorak-pale-olive.html. If you want a waterproof jacket, Orvis makes a waterproof (more noise) jacket with similar qualities www.orvis.com/p/encounter-jacket/2cl0
Simply beautiful, perfect!
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Many thanks for that, glad you took the time!
Hva slags type kamera er det du filmer med? Er det vanntett?
Kkgtm Canon Powershot sx50hs, Canon G1X og en liten vanntett sak fra Canon Powershot serien.
What do you mean hundreds of deer a year? What is the tag / bag structure in the U.K.?
Tactical Tshirts Literary hundreds. One of the guys needed close to a thousand deer taken from his lands, another must shoot roughly 700 in the forest, from the areas in this film they need to take of 1200/1500 I think it was. So a lot of deer on few hands. There just isn't enough leisure hunters to manage the lands properly.
If the landowners are brave enough to bring some wolves in, the deer will soon be under control. Controversial though. It'll sure scare the folk who are out backpacking. I've been surrounded by a pack of dingoes in the Australian Alps. Their howling as they form up at night puts a shiver in your spine.
Great video!
Can you tell me which kind of flip covers you use? I tink you showed them once, but can't that video again.
Thank's
Sure, it's the Tenebraex covers that came with the scope. I really like them, solid and stays out of the way when you fold them.
Thank's for your quick response. Have you used those one, too on the S&B PMII?
Yes, works the same there. Special adapters for each scope. Horribly expensive if they don't come with the scope.
Hello Thomas
can you tell me which supressor do you use ? i have a b&t Tiger bt after 5 shots it damn gets too hot !!
thanx
I use Atec Hertz 150 in this clip. Hausken and Atec are by far the easiest brands to use in Norway due availability.
thank you for the answer. unfortunately here in switzerland there is no dealer from both, so i have to stick with B&T
the other is this your dad or a good friend
He is a professional deer hunter and my guide.
Good shooting sir! But let that be a lesson.... no quick enough between the 1st n 2nd shot. Ye heard it hit, reload and shoot again😄. I'll bet you were buzzing like a fridge after that day out. Well done 👍
raymiebhoy100 Yeah, it actually was a good lesson. Can't say I'm confident enough to leave the deer before it falls. Was shooting deer in harder weather later this autumn, and his lessons was certainly helpful for me to be harder on the deer.
I think it is the ethical and responsible thing to do to stay on the deer until you are 100% sure that it will die. I have learnt this the hard way with a Brindled Gnu in South Africa. Shot the second one after not making sure the first one was dead, spent the whole day tracking it which could have been avoided by making sure it is dead. So although the guide said you were too slow, I think you did the right thing.
Thanks for that! Yes, I too tend to watch them or shoot them again if I'm uncertain. The first reds I shot had a few bullet holes in them as I'm very much used to roe deer dropping straight down, the reds simply needs a few seconds extra to die.
Hi thomas.
So, just by hearing the impact you could have known that the deer will die soon, did I get it?
Yes, the professional heard the solid smack of the bullet when it hit the animal, and with HIS experience he could tell right away that the deer was hit good and would die soon. I did not hear the smack of the bullet as my ear defenders cut off the sound.
a shot to the chest is a very solid thud and sounds different to a shot that is too far back i.e. the guts, which can sound like a wet slap and can also sound like a pop if you hit the stomach. Thats a massive positive with the sound moderators in that you can hear the impact much more clearly!
Roughly how far out was that last one? Long time between impact and the sound coming back!
Yes, I think sound moderators and bipods are the two biggest improvements to overall deer stalking. The distance was nothing spectacular, and I prefer not to be explicit about it.
Well we actually prefer "nothing spectacular" on the bit that I stalk in Scotland, it shows superior stalking skills, sportsmanship and respect for the quarry in ensuring a clean kill every time. We try and limit our shots to within 200, or 300m VERY maximum!
MrFREDANG Same ethics as me then. I think I shot my gems at 30m and tahr at 70m, but that was me stalking for myself and not somebody elses cull. A quick kill and clean carcass is needed regardless of range.
Nice shooting and nice shot placement, which caliber did you use for this hunt?
I use 6,5x284 with 140gr bullets for all my hunts. Hornady Amax, SST, ELD, Nosler Ballistic Tip, Sierra Gameking etc.. they all seem to produce identical results.
that is nice caliber but rare in my country, it is similar like 7X64
It is rare here too. 7x64 is very, very similar and should do exactly the same thing on deer. If I were shooting 7mm, I'd use the 7x64 myself - many good bullets and quality brass available. Here, 6,5mm bullets are more available than 7mm as 6,5x55 can almost be considered our national calibre.
in my country most hunters have 8X57JS but I think these faster calibers such as 7X64, 270 win, and 7 mmRM are better for instant kill.
We've been seeing growing popularity of the 8x57 with the growing wild boar population in Sweden, as well as the 9,3x62 which has always been fairly popular here. 7x64 has for some reason never caught on (strong 6,5mm competition I suspect) and of course 308 and 30-06 is very popular.
What scope are you using ?
Michael Hogan That's a Minox ZP 5-25x56
what happen when second shot...
one shot 2 kill..??
i see 2 deer down in one impact
Andrian Drian No. I shot deer no 1 and tracked it until it died. When I saw it fall, I quickly shot deer no 2, hence the two deer falling at the same time.
wow..that fast...
good eye and good breath control...
Thanks for that!
Takk for nok en god film. Hvordan kommer du i kontakt med disse jaktutleierne? De svarer jo sjeldent eller aldri på mail adressene på filmene dine...
TH1NOR Nå er det høysesong på avskyting før mørke og vinter, de fleste synes ikke fikse kunder før uti februar. Shaun er borte, så han kan du glemme. Alba deer nås best gjennom Facebook hvor den yngre delen av firmaet styrer.
Her er Facebook'en til Alba facebook.com/albadeermanagement/?fref=ts
Where I hunt deer, there are so many trees I might as well be hunting submarines.
HAHAHAHAHAA!!!! Shit I got one on my patio right now.
Oh I thought you said "in" a submarine. anyway still funny.
It really helps to be on open hill, it is a lot easier to find the game than in forests or heavy vegetation.
Hvilket kaliber er det skyter med her? 6.5x55?
6,5x284 med 140 gr kule. 6,5x55 gir det samme resultatet.
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Puuhh, Damn good hunting. Waidmannsheil.
But i diidn´t understand. what your mentor want you do better in shooting.
PredatorTT Waidmannsdank. He would have liked me to shoot all the deer. If I had heard the smack of the bullet on the first deer, I would have realized it was dead on its feet. That would have given me almost 20 seconds to shoot more deer.
ok, i understand. but all the deer ??? They have too much? Or he want you paying more? ;)
PredatorTT They need to shoot 1200-1500 deer per year, I am not paying for the deer.
wow, 1220 - 1500 is a lot of deer, so now i can understand him, that he want to see you shooting more deer.
u r a excelent shooter and u where able to do shoot all (or more then the three) in this short time-window
Many thanks for that. Yes, they do some serious work on the deer. He is fourth or fifth generation in his family that makes a living off deer.
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Thanks, glad you liked it!
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Many thanks for that, thanks for taking the time to comment.
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Enrique Zent Thanks!
good shooting my friend...get an ammo wallet 😆
Yup, I was tipped abuot this which looks ok for my use (orange and silent) www.aemprecision.com/10-round-ammo-pouch/
You must spend a lot of time in Scotland to pick up a Scottish accent when speaking English.
Not really, I just drop any pretence of studied intonation and speak English in my Norwegian dialect. After all, we had a fair amount of Vikings travelling from Norway to Scotland and the languages had a fairly large exchange of words and expressions.
Nice kill.
GOAT Gilmore Thanks!