Removal and dis-assembly of the transmission from a B414 International tractor. The same transmission in the B275, B414, 276,434,354,444 and 384 tractors.
Love it, although I do wish this was about 2 years ago before I had to completely disassemble mine to replace two gears and had no clue what I was doing. These videos will be a great resource for others.
enjoyed the tear down have problems with mine cant get in 3, 4 gear plus have a number of problems I bought this b414 it's too cold outside to do any work however working on finding out what is needed for the better weather or I will have to let it go it has a bucket but I believe it is three times the weight it should be was welded on and on angle which is very hard to smooth out or shoveling, I need a hydraulic pump if you have leads please email keep videos coming I will be using them instead of reading lol
When you get chance pull the shift cover and check the top shaft for wiggle, could be loose bearings causing it to sag and binding the 3-4 sliding gear from engaging. For parts email sales@chowntractorparts.com Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the videos Dave , they have been a valuable resource .Could you tell me what bearing number the needle bearings in the sliding quill gear for a B275 is when ordering replacements .
I recently just got a international 3414 backhoe and I took the shifter plate and plate off over rear end gears and the bolt on bearing which in your video you called it a bearing retainer has came apart how would I go about getting that bearing or just the whole main shaft assembly
Great presentation indeed. It's so helpful. I am a new owner of a 450 and looks like they have the same arrangement with 414. Just want to know if gearbox and differential share the same oil after topping up from gearbox filler port, and how many liters does it take
An IH 450 is quite a different tractor though the transmission and differential do share a case and the oil is shared so you can fill from the one plug. Not sure how much oil it takes. Thanks for watching!
Hi, I have a IH 3414 industrial backhoe that the differential pinion shaft bearing is bad, how do I go about replacing that bearing without splitting the tractor?
Hi Dave,Mike in Ireland,rebuilt a b275 engine with help from your channel thanks.quill bearings missing in gearbox, my q is do I have to split the tractor in two places or can I just split in front of the gearbox.does the shaft slip out of the clutch section or do I need to split it at the clutch also,feeling a bit daunted ,thanks
You will have to split at 2 places to get into the transmission. Split at the clutch first, then you can split at the front of the transmission. Thanks for watching!
Good day Interesting video. I saw a spindle, I think 414 front wheel bearings fit 574? Those gears seemed big for 35 hp? How do you keep gears from rusting now. If you ever strip another tractor record if possible. It looks like weather is basically same all over, getting colder. Thanks fo r now
Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed the video. The 574 has a quite a bit larger spindle than a 414 so the bearings don't fit. The transmissions in these tractors are quite sturdy, damage mainly occurs from operators that don't know how to shift an unsynchronized transmission. We try to leave the gears a little oily and then juststore them inside to prevent rust, they may get a little surface rust but nothing that would cause any real harm. Winter is definitely right around the corner. Thanks for watching!
Hey buddy, how's retirement treating you? This tractor was being stripped for parts so it's staying apart. :) To use one of my favorite lines at the parts counter Ï just take stuff apart, putting together requires skill." Thanks for watching!
Hi Dave. I have a 414 that I'm tidying up to sell. Waiting for some brake pads, temp guage and tacho and I think watching your other video I need a steering rebuild kit as it is full of water and gunk but it also drops out of 3rd and 4th gear when underway. 1st and 2nd are fine. I cant remember if high or low range make a difference. Wondering if you have any idea what might cause this? Richard
Dave I have a B414 with a transmission that makes a loud grinding/ chattering noise when I put it in high range in all 4 gears. Can I diagnose it by taking the shift cover off or do I have to split the tractor?
Hey Dave I’m needing the 2nd/3rd sliding gear that you remove in this video. I’m in the U.S. do you have either a good used one or a new one? Thank you
I have a 63 B250 that has been sitting for a long time.. I drained a lot of water and melted a lot of ice out of the transmission. After finally getting it running I find I can only go between first and reverse. It won’t slide into any other gear. Is this a problem in the shift cover or deeper in?
It's probably rust on the rails in the shift cover, you can take it off and pull the rails off and clean them up. While you have the shift cover off it will give you a chance to check out gears too. Thanks for watching!
Hello, first of all thank you for your videos. I have one question: Do I have to disassemble the whole thing to replace the drive shaft seal (751080R91), or is that possible without completely removing the housing?
I'm not sure which seal you mean because that part # isn't showing up in the online parts book, likely an updated number now. The seal ta the back can be replaced by removing the 3 bolts in the retainer and slipping it off, no need to remove the shaft or dis-assemble anything else. Thanks for watching!
I have an early b414 with the smaller brake disk I can’t find anywhere do you know if they used the same disk on any other model that would be correct? Thanks !
Brake disks from a B250 and early B275s would also be the same disk, part number 704422R93. They are available from A&I Products dealers, search their website for a dealer near you. Thanks for watching!
Check through the inspection cover for any broken levers on the pressure plate, if any are broken the clutch will need replaced. If nothing is broken you can try starting it in gear where you have some space to drive, stand on the clutch pedal and jump on the brakes repeatedly, it might break it free. Thanks for watching.
HI Dave, great videos. Perhaps you can help me. I have a B414 and recently I noticed oil discharging from the dipstick tube. I drained crankcase and ended up with about 18 litres of oil! I then drained transmission and only had 4 litres. What is going on here? Any suggestions on what has happened?
There shouldn't be any way for the transmission grease to get into the engine. Have you been needing to add hydraulic oil? Has it been using more fuel than usual. It could be leaking oil through the hydraulic pump or fuel through the fuel lift pump or injector pump. Thanks for watching!
Hi Dave, Thanks gor your very informative videos. I have a question. Where is the hydraulic pump located on a B414? Thanks for taking your time to answer my question and have a nice day.
The hydraulic pump bolts into the timing gears at the right side of the engine, just follow the pressure line to the lift unit to the pump. Thanks for watching!
@@CanadianRedneck15 Thanks Dave I did find the hydraulic pump and removed it to replace it. The new pump did not come with a gear. Any suggestions on how to remove gear from pump? Thanks again for your help.
i have the industrial loader version of this tractor a 3434.,,well mine is a very late 1982 based on the 434..it will be time consuming to split as the loader frame and cab is built around the tractor ..the bearing race in the reverse idler has collapsed ..the tractor is new to me and reverse seams'' fine ..its been like it for some time as there is no shrapnel in the bottom of the gerar box so someone has cleaned it out and not fixed it i only noticed when i was replacing the top gasket..from previous experience with a 3434 years ago when this baring collapses the needles from the bearing mixes with the oil and bang and ping about when they jam with the gear teeth...the diff cover is easy to remove on the industrial tractor as it only holds the seat in place so easy to get to the snap ring so what i am asking do you think there is enough room to remove the reverse idler and fit a new bearing with out splitting the tractor and dismantling ??? thanks dave
Dave, I have the same transmission, the clutch seems to work properly, however it usually grinds into gear. I've tried waiting till the tractor stops, and also double clutching. Nothing seems to help. What would you say is causing the grinding? Thanks!
@@CanadianRedneck15 yeah maybe I'm taking out of gear and then stopping it, need to leave in gear then stop, I'll pay more attention next time, thanks so much!
Is this transmission the same or similar to one that is in a 300 U ? The transmission in my 300 has a knocking sound ,it changes with RPM's and goes away when the clutch is depressed.
Would you have an idea of what is the cost for some gears and forks in the transmission, I'm currently looking at a B275 for sale that has transmission problems and I would like to have some kind of an idea of what awaits me!
I don't believe any of the transmission parts are available new any more, but I have a good supply of used here. Forks are $25 each and the gears range from $25 to $150 or so. You can reach me at sales@chowntractorparts.com
Hi Dave I have a b414 just wondering to remove the shift cover do I have to remove the hydraulic cover first or is it possible to remove the shift cover on its own the back bolt is rite under the hydraulic control valve Many thanks in advance
@@CanadianRedneck15 Yes, it does work in High Range. Watching your video, it just doesn't make sense as to why I wouldn't have Low Range. If I get deep into it, I will be sure to post my findings here. Thanks for the quick response. Love the Channel!
I've got a 276 International, looks like I might need to remove the whole hydraulic unit to remove the top trans cover? One bolt seems almost impossible to get out, am I correct? Just got the tractor, been setting a while, and the shifter doesn't move.
Yes the lift unit will have to come off, you will need the space to set the forks back onto the gears even if you could lift the shift cover off. Thanks for watching!
Thanks, I'll have to borrow an engine hoist from a friend to get that lift unit off. You'll be my first call if I need parts, you're not to far from me.
@@Gearheadtom that lift unit sits down on 2 dowels, it usually is kinda "glued" in place, you will probably have to pry it loose before you can lift it clear.
If you take the cover off the bottom of the clutch housing you will be able to see the clutch, I've only ever seen them with doubles. Thanks for watching!
Hi Dave, My B414 works perfectly in low range but when I lift the lever and put it in high range, it makes a noise in all 4 gears. its kind of a grinding rattling noise. any idea whats happing there?
Might be a idea to change oil into gear oil 80-90w instead of some tractor universal oil to. I got that problem on my 444 after changing to tractor universal, but i just drive on. 10 years whit the same noise now....., ups maybe time for a oil change, gear oil this time for sure. Love these videos, so well done, how to take it apart, and what might be wrong, excellent presentation.
You will have to lift the hydraulic lift unit off to get the shift cover off, but that is the best bet for seeing what is going on. Thanks for watching!
Can you explain how the 444 tractor should sound it makes a noise when I'm operating it but when I press the clutch it goes away and it sounds like it's getting worse
Depending on the noise it could be a bearing going back, broken gear or hard to say what else. The only way to know is to start digging and find the problem. Thanks for watching!
I have a IH 3414 Industrial Model that uses many of the same parts. last month i replaced the dual clutch by lifting the engine out the top of the loader frame. If someone can lead me to a splined shaft for the front crank shaft driven pump which is 8 inches long I would really appreciate it, or if they modified their pump drive let me know what i need to buy.
At the base of the shift lever there is a little cap on either side. Take a small punch and drive it into one and this will push the pin out through the other side, you can then take a long screw driver or pry bar down through the opening and line all of the notches up in the middle of their travel. Thanks for watching!
I'm from India. I have also International tractor but this tractor gearbox and rear axle not good. Gearbox take sound when changes the gear and rear axle also take sound when drive in back gear or 1st, 2 and 3 gear
Love it, although I do wish this was about 2 years ago before I had to completely disassemble mine to replace two gears and had no clue what I was doing. These videos will be a great resource for others.
It is certainly an intimidating thing to jump into without some sort of guide, I'm glad you got it sorted out. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the awesome videos!!
I am glad you enjoyed the series, thanks for watching!
Thanks for the videos have a 584
I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
enjoyed the tear down have problems with mine cant get in 3, 4 gear plus have a number of problems I bought this b414 it's too cold outside to do any work however working on finding out what is needed for the better weather or I will have to let it go it has a bucket but I believe it is three times the weight it should be was welded on and on angle which is very hard to smooth out or shoveling, I need a hydraulic pump if you have leads please email keep videos coming I will be using them instead of reading lol
When you get chance pull the shift cover and check the top shaft for wiggle, could be loose bearings causing it to sag and binding the 3-4 sliding gear from engaging.
For parts email sales@chowntractorparts.com
Thanks for watching!
very helpfull information sir Thanks
I am glad you found the video helpful, thanks for watching!
Thanks for the videos Dave , they have been a valuable resource .Could you tell me what bearing number the needle bearings in the sliding quill gear for a B275 is when ordering replacements .
Thank you for India🇮🇳 👍👌👍
I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
I recently just got a international 3414 backhoe and I took the shifter plate and plate off over rear end gears and the bolt on bearing which in your video you called it a bearing retainer has came apart how would I go about getting that bearing or just the whole main shaft assembly
Great presentation indeed. It's so helpful. I am a new owner of a 450 and looks like they have the same arrangement with 414. Just want to know if gearbox and differential share the same oil after topping up from gearbox filler port, and how many liters does it take
An IH 450 is quite a different tractor though the transmission and differential do share a case and the oil is shared so you can fill from the one plug. Not sure how much oil it takes.
Thanks for watching!
How much gear oil it takes and is that right side bolt for level check?
Hi, I have a IH 3414 industrial backhoe that the differential pinion shaft bearing is bad, how do I go about replacing that bearing without splitting the tractor?
Hi Dave,Mike in Ireland,rebuilt a b275 engine with help from your channel thanks.quill bearings missing in gearbox, my q is do I have to split the tractor in two places or can I just split in front of the gearbox.does the shaft slip out of the clutch section or do I need to split it at the clutch also,feeling a bit daunted ,thanks
You will have to split at 2 places to get into the transmission. Split at the clutch first, then you can split at the front of the transmission. Thanks for watching!
Good day Interesting video. I saw a spindle, I think 414 front wheel bearings fit 574? Those gears seemed big for 35 hp? How do you keep gears from rusting now. If you ever strip another tractor record if possible. It looks like weather is basically same all over, getting colder. Thanks fo r now
Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed the video. The 574 has a quite a bit larger spindle than a 414 so the bearings don't fit. The transmissions in these tractors are quite sturdy, damage mainly occurs from operators that don't know how to shift an unsynchronized transmission. We try to leave the gears a little oily and then juststore them inside to prevent rust, they may get a little surface rust but nothing that would cause any real harm. Winter is definitely right around the corner. Thanks for watching!
Dave, ya got me into these video's are you going to put everything back together ????
Hey buddy, how's retirement treating you? This tractor was being stripped for parts so it's staying apart. :) To use one of my favorite lines at the parts counter Ï just take stuff apart, putting together requires skill." Thanks for watching!
Hi Dave. I have a 414 that I'm tidying up to sell. Waiting for some brake pads, temp guage and tacho and I think watching your other video I need a steering rebuild kit as it is full of water and gunk but it also drops out of 3rd and 4th gear when underway. 1st and 2nd are fine. I cant remember if high or low range make a difference. Wondering if you have any idea what might cause this?
Richard
Sounds like there are some worn gears in there or possibly bad shaft bearings.
Thanks for watching!
Dave I have a B414 with a transmission that makes a loud grinding/ chattering noise when I put it in high range in all 4 gears. Can I diagnose it by taking the shift cover off or do I have to split the tractor?
You should be able to tell by lifting the shift cover. To lift the shift cover you have to lift the hydraulic lift unit. Thanks for watching!
Hey Dave
I’m needing the 2nd/3rd sliding gear that you remove in this video. I’m in the U.S. do you have either a good used one or a new one? Thank you
Email me at sales@chowntractorparts.com
I have a 63 B250 that has been sitting for a long time.. I drained a lot of water and melted a lot of ice out of the transmission. After finally getting it running I find I can only go between first and reverse. It won’t slide into any other gear. Is this a problem in the shift cover or deeper in?
It's probably rust on the rails in the shift cover, you can take it off and pull the rails off and clean them up. While you have the shift cover off it will give you a chance to check out gears too. Thanks for watching!
Hello, first of all thank you for your videos.
I have one question: Do I have to disassemble the whole thing to replace the drive shaft seal (751080R91), or is that possible without completely removing the housing?
I'm not sure which seal you mean because that part # isn't showing up in the online parts book, likely an updated number now. The seal ta the back can be replaced by removing the 3 bolts in the retainer and slipping it off, no need to remove the shaft or dis-assemble anything else. Thanks for watching!
@@CanadianRedneck15 Unfortunately, the third screw is right above the shaft and cannot be unscrewed
@@UltraWK You can remove the shield if it's in the way, that third bolt has to come out , that is the only way to get to the seal.
Do you have any videos on adding power steering to a B414? We just recently bought one with out power steering and would like to add it to it. Thanks!
I am sorry I do not. Thanks for watching!
I have an early b414 with the smaller brake disk I can’t find anywhere do you know if they used the same disk on any other model that would be correct? Thanks !
Brake disks from a B250 and early B275s would also be the same disk, part number 704422R93. They are available from A&I Products dealers, search their website for a dealer near you.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your video, my B414 clutch is stuck do you have any tips to get the clutch working again ?
Check through the inspection cover for any broken levers on the pressure plate, if any are broken the clutch will need replaced. If nothing is broken you can try starting it in gear where you have some space to drive, stand on the clutch pedal and jump on the brakes repeatedly, it might break it free.
Thanks for watching.
Awesome vid any ideas were I can find trans mission parts for my 3414
Search for salvage yards in your area. Thanks for watching!
HI Dave, great videos. Perhaps you can help me. I have a B414 and recently I noticed oil discharging from the dipstick tube. I drained crankcase and ended up with about 18 litres of oil! I then drained transmission and only had 4 litres. What is going on here? Any suggestions on what has happened?
There shouldn't be any way for the transmission grease to get into the engine. Have you been needing to add hydraulic oil? Has it been using more fuel than usual. It could be leaking oil through the hydraulic pump or fuel through the fuel lift pump or injector pump. Thanks for watching!
Hi Dave,
Thanks gor your very informative videos. I have a question. Where is the hydraulic pump located on a B414? Thanks for taking your time to answer my question and have a nice day.
The hydraulic pump bolts into the timing gears at the right side of the engine, just follow the pressure line to the lift unit to the pump. Thanks for watching!
@@CanadianRedneck15 Thanks Dave I did find the hydraulic pump and removed it to replace it. The new pump did not come with a gear. Any suggestions on how to remove gear from pump? Thanks again for your help.
@@christiangulizia4480 Once you remove the nut put a pry bar behind the gear and hit the shaft with a hammer.
i have the industrial loader version of this tractor a 3434.,,well mine is a very late 1982 based on the 434..it will be time consuming to split as the loader frame and cab is built around the tractor ..the bearing race in the reverse idler has collapsed ..the tractor is new to me and reverse seams'' fine ..its been like it for some time as there is no shrapnel in the bottom of the gerar box so someone has cleaned it out and not fixed it i only noticed when i was replacing the top gasket..from previous experience with a 3434 years ago when this baring collapses the needles from the bearing mixes with the oil and bang and ping about when they jam with the gear teeth...the diff cover is easy to remove on the industrial tractor as it only holds the seat in place so easy to get to the snap ring so what i am asking do you think there is enough room to remove the reverse idler and fit a new bearing with out splitting the tractor and dismantling ??? thanks dave
It's certainly worth a try, if you can fish it up by would save a ton of work! Thanks for watching!
Hey man, i'm the guy that asked about rims on the mf 35 fitting my 135. Was wandering if yo u ever ship parts. I am in the us though
I do ship parts though cross border shipping doesn't tend to be cost effective unless it is a hard to find part. Thanks for watching!
Dave, I have the same transmission, the clutch seems to work properly, however it usually grinds into gear. I've tried waiting till the tractor stops, and also double clutching. Nothing seems to help. What would you say is causing the grinding? Thanks!
If you come to a full stop and then shift gears and it still grinds the clutch has to be grabbing. Thanks for watching!
@@CanadianRedneck15 yeah maybe I'm taking out of gear and then stopping it, need to leave in gear then stop, I'll pay more attention next time, thanks so much!
Is this transmission the same or similar to one that is in a 300 U ? The transmission in my 300 has a knocking sound ,it changes with RPM's and goes away when the clutch is depressed.
THese are a completely different transmission, they are a dual range 4 speed where the 300 utility is a singe range 5 speed.
Thanks for watching!
Would you have an idea of what is the cost for some gears and forks in the transmission, I'm currently looking at a B275 for sale that has transmission problems and I would like to have some kind of an idea of what awaits me!
I don't believe any of the transmission parts are available new any more, but I have a good supply of used here. Forks are $25 each and the gears range from $25 to $150 or so. You can reach me at sales@chowntractorparts.com
Hi Dave I have a b414 just wondering to remove the shift cover do I have to remove the hydraulic cover first or is it possible to remove the shift cover on its own the back bolt is rite under the hydraulic control valve
Many thanks in advance
Yes, the hydraulic cover has to come off first so you have room to lift the shift cover.
@@CanadianRedneck15 Thanks Dave
Hi, Dave. I have a US-built 444 with no reverse in Low Range. All other gears work fine. Any suggestions?
Does reverse work in high range? If so that has me baffled. About all you can do is open it up and see what is going on.
Thanks,
Dave
@@CanadianRedneck15 Yes, it does work in High Range. Watching your video, it just doesn't make sense as to why I wouldn't have Low Range. If I get deep into it, I will be sure to post my findings here. Thanks for the quick response. Love the Channel!
@@stevensharek1750 I would appreciate hearing what you find out. Thanks for watching!
I've got a 276 International, looks like I might need to remove the whole hydraulic unit to remove the top trans cover? One bolt seems almost impossible to get out, am I correct? Just got the tractor, been setting a while, and the shifter doesn't move.
Yes the lift unit will have to come off, you will need the space to set the forks back onto the gears even if you could lift the shift cover off.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks, I'll have to borrow an engine hoist from a friend to get that lift unit off.
You'll be my first call if I need parts, you're not to far from me.
@@Gearheadtom that lift unit sits down on 2 dowels, it usually is kinda "glued" in place, you will probably have to pry it loose before you can lift it clear.
thanks again great video i wont tear into 354 till next spring how are u for providing parts? Jerry Pino Sequim Wa
That's what I do! :) You can reach me at sales@chowntractorparts.com.
I just bought a international gas b 414 how do you tell if it's a single clutch or a dual clutch
If you take the cover off the bottom of the clutch housing you will be able to see the clutch, I've only ever seen them with doubles. Thanks for watching!
Hi Dave, My B414 works perfectly in low range but when I lift the lever and put it in high range, it makes a noise in all 4 gears. its kind of a grinding rattling noise. any idea whats happing there?
It could be the quill gear or a worn or bent low range shift fork not completely dis-engaging the low range gear.
Thanks for watching!
Might be a idea to change oil into gear oil 80-90w instead of some tractor universal oil to. I got that problem on my 444 after changing to tractor universal, but i just drive on. 10 years whit the same noise now....., ups maybe time for a oil change, gear oil this time for sure. Love these videos, so well done, how to take it apart, and what might be wrong, excellent presentation.
Is this the same trans in all the 400 series tractors.??!! Thanks
The 400 series Case tractors? No, totally different companies at the time, absolutely no parts interchange.
Thanks for watching!
We’ve got a knocking noise when in second gear in both high and low range. Can I just take the gear shift lever plate off to see what’s going on?
You will have to lift the hydraulic lift unit off to get the shift cover off, but that is the best bet for seeing what is going on. Thanks for watching!
I have a mf135 and was wandering if the mf35 back rims would go on my 135. I have those real fat low orchard rims and would like normal tractor tires
Yes the 35 and 135 both have the same bolt pattern, a 6" bolt circle and a 4 5/8"pilot hole. Thanks for watching!
great video. I lost hi range. but low works fine. i dont know if it worth all the work.
I guess only you can decide that. Thanks for watching!
Can you explain how the 444 tractor should sound it makes a noise when I'm operating it but when I press the clutch it goes away and it sounds like it's getting worse
Depending on the noise it could be a bearing going back, broken gear or hard to say what else. The only way to know is to start digging and find the problem. Thanks for watching!
Tracter shifts good put it don't move
Broken axle?
Do you have any used rear tires youd want to sell for the 414?
Send me an email, sales@chowntractorparts.com
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I have a IH 3414 Industrial Model that uses many of the same parts. last month i replaced the dual clutch by lifting the engine out the top of the loader frame.
If someone can lead me to a splined shaft for the front crank shaft driven pump which is 8 inches long I would really appreciate it, or if they modified their pump drive let me know what i need to buy.
I'm sorry I don't have a source for that. Thanks for watching!
Any interest in selling the smaller reverse idler assembly?
Yup, selling parts is what I do, you can reach me at sales@chowntractorparts.com Thanks for watching!
hello, take it easy, my ih 444 is stuck in serial gear, it stops when it is reinforced, how can I do it, thanks
At the base of the shift lever there is a little cap on either side. Take a small punch and drive it into one and this will push the pin out through the other side, you can then take a long screw driver or pry bar down through the opening and line all of the notches up in the middle of their travel. Thanks for watching!
@@CanadianRedneck15 thank you💖
I'm from India. I have also International tractor but this tractor gearbox and rear axle not good. Gearbox take sound when changes the gear and rear axle also take sound when drive in back gear or 1st, 2 and 3 gear
That sounds like a bearing in the transmission. Thanks for watching!
Where are you located
I am in New Brunswick, Canada.
unknown sound in right axel
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