Fantastic! Thank you for posting this! I’m a newly qualified telecoms engineer (obvs with no outside the classroom experience) currently sat outside in a car park waiting to go into a job interview! This is a perfect refresher for me! 👍
Excellent Demo I've been using OTDR's since 1st generation 1984 and I actually learned something I forgot over the decades 😅 hardest part is explaining to "fiber optic engineers " why specific settings need to be that way for thier network
This is great, im currently upping my experience since im now be promoted. Not a trained fiber tech but since we use it all the time I need to get better to help teams.
muchas gracias por la explicación, trabajo en uruguay ) hace mas de 32 años que trabajo en telefonía),ahora también trabaja mis hijos. Estuve en la expansión del FTTH en Uruguay, saludos
Kevin, thank you, you teach very well. Like you said its in the interpretation, it’s easier then it used to be lol. Thank you, keep the videos coming Phx az
Thank you I am glad you liked it. I have short and long vidoes. I created this one for a customer who wanted a short video for his techs. They said more than 15 minutes we would love them!
Hey. Thanks for the video, very informative. I was wondering if this EXFO OTDR is eligible to show detailed test results (Value dB, Limit dB, and Loss dB) on a fiber optic cable that below 100m in length. Looking forward to the feedback. Thanks!
Joseph I am glad you liked the video. Yes it has the resolution to measure a 100m fiber. I would use the shortest pulse width with at least a 15 second averaging time. With lengths that short I typically lean towards an OLTS measuring span loss and ORL. If there is a splice or connector within the 100m than an OTDR would be ideal to measure that event
Hi Kevin. Thank you for this video. One question. What is the recommended launch cable length? Do I need 500m for a network of about 10km in length? Or is 30m patch cord enough? Thanks again Kevin for this video
You are welcome. I am glad you found value in the video. As far as the launch. Great question. It really depends on the pulse width. One way to determine is to take the Pulse width in (ns) divided by 10. Convert to meters and multiply by 2. Example: 1 μs -> 1000ns / 10 -> 100m x 2 = 200 meter -> Appropriate launch cable (multiplying the distance times 2 is to add margin for the pulse to recover you can safely go down to 1.5 times) If you use iOLM you can get away with a shorter launch. Most of the customers I work with use 100m under 20km and 1000m over 20km. If you get into ultra long haul you need to look at launch longer than 1000m.
Very clear explanation. Thanks. So question: [at 13:47 ] if I'm doing a very long fibre (168km), should I be actually doing a few tests/fibre at DIFFERENT pulse widths just to be able to observe the near and the far splices? (I'm doing bidirectional too)? Launch cable is 1.5km.
It is an FTB-1Pro with a FTB-720C-Q1-EA-EI module. Yes, I was wondering if it was capable and may need to rent/borrow a more powerful unit. Thanks for quick REPLY! . (My other OPGW spans are 77km and 124km.)
Hi Sir. I have EXFO FTB-1 OTDR but when I press the power button there's no screen display, still in black screen only. Do you know what's the problem and how to repair it?
Hard to say sir. Could be a battery issue or a display problem. I recommend removing the batteries. Unplug it. Than put it back together. Put the AC power and see if it starts. You can email support@EXFO.com and work with them to troubleshoot
I use an OTDR to locate a break. To achieve this is the best thing to do, select auto and start a test? As I don’t know the actual length of the line to initially optimise and I also don’t care at this stage. Second, how would I identify a splice on a fibre with the otdr ?
That is how I typically do it. Make sure you have a nice clean launch select auto and let the OTDR optimize. If you are troubleshooting set your averaging time to 30 seconds or more. The longer the averaging time the more optimized the pulse width. Once the test is done if you locate your problem you are good otherwise you can try lowering your pulse width to increase your resolution. You can balance this with adding more averaging time. The OTDR will identify the splice for you if it’s detectable. It will have some attenuation bit more reflection. Hope this all makes sense
@@KevinPeres amazing! Thank you :) I run for 30 seconds as I believe that is what the auto test runs at by default. What would a splice actually look like on the otdr trace? Are they highlighted by the lines in the trace? And what sort of loss would you need to have on a splice for an otdr to pick it up? That would be really useful for locating joints in a network that aren’t on any plans
@@bhtradinggroup5340 splices will have some attenuation, usually a loss but can be a gainer but NO reflection. Here is an old setup guide I did with a customer that walks through OTDR setup from a basic level. There is a screen shot of the event icons in there. 1drv.ms/b/s!AmWiv8u8gNCngoA3QHAb-uN2SDP5Tg?e=Y1RVSX
Yes if it’s on the same network you can use VNC. If it’s on different network you can use QuickAssist or TeamViewer. Although I have not tried it you might be able to do USB3 out to HDMI. I have an adapter somewhere I will have to try it out
You can add three wavelengths. We have many customers who order 1310/1550/1625nm together. typically 1625 is reserved for Ultra Long Haul or folks deploying into the L band. I hope that answers your question.
Good video. I just started using this otdr but all I get is what looks like noise. I’ve changed launch cables and connector type and still just see noise. Everything has been cleaned multiple times. Can you maybe give some pointers? This machine will improve my trouble shooting
Do you see any of the fiber ? Or does it launch straight noise ? If so and you cleaned and cleaned it. I would inspect it with a probe if you have one to see if it’s damaged. Otherwise it may have to come back. If you have a trace to send email it to me at Kevin.peres@exfo.com
@@salahmunasar4686 I have never seen that before. Can you email support@exfo.com with a screenshot of the issue if you have it and they can point you in the right direction for assistance.
hey i have a question . i save mutliple trcs files is there any way to produce one report with all traces in it. like on 945 a report of multiple shots is generated. thanks in advance
Not within the test set. You can using FastReporter our reporting tool. You can use it for Custom reporting. I have a video on my channel that goes over FastReporter 3. There is a 90 day trial and after that it is $180 a year. If you are doing custom reporting its a great tool.
I am sorry for the slow response I did not intend for this video to be used for training purposes. I uploaded it to see how it streamed I thought it was not searchable. I will see if we have an fLS-600 video. It would have to be an overhead shot as it does not support screen cast.
I would need a little more information on what the issue is. Can you tell me what the error is? You can email me screenshots or more detailed description at Kevin.peres@exfo.com
@@muhammadayaz7901 it could be only iOLM was the purchased option. Would you prefer OTDR? You can have either or both but it’s an option. Where are you located I can have a rep contact you
Sorry I do not check UA-cam often i only posted this video to see how it streamed! I did not realize people would use it. This does not do speed test we do have an application that does. What test set up are you looking for? Layer 2 or Layer 3/4?
Thanks for this video. It's really helpful. However, there is one question I have. Thus, what is the meaning of FAIL in the top right corner of the report? Is this mean that the other side of the testing cable was not connected?
Sorry for the slow response I am realizing that people are actually watching the videos I posted for streaming testing purposes. the top right fail is a "Global Fail" meaning there is at least one parameter that fails. You will have to refer to the event table to see exactly what failed.
MoMTa which OTDR do you have? on the FTB and MAX platform you can see a Report button under the start button. That will generate a PDF. I hope that helps
@@Mamta.8864 okay my directions should help you. If not email support@EXFO.com and they may be able to find you a local support to assist. My instructions should work
Anusorn, You can select the report button under the start button and it will generate a PDF. in that PDF report will be the total loss. You can also click on the summary tab in the OTDR screen and it will have the information there as well.
EXFO's End Of Fiber Detection comes factory default set at 5.0. DUMB, that should always be set to 20. Any fault found greater than 5.0 will cause the remaining fiber under test to be greyed out. Also, NEVER EVER change the index of refraction from factory default, it is never needed. Most fiber runs, long ones, are spliced with different vendors fibers with different IOR and most people don't even know what the IOR of the fiber being tested is anyway. Learn how to use your OTDR in EXPERT, or Advanced mode, many problems with using AUTO.
True Advanced Mode is always preferred but straight out of the box it is unrealistic to expect every user to be an expert. If they were we would all get paid less wouldn't we? The End of Fiber Detection threshold is on all OTDR's that I know of. Auto Mode while something I do not fully rely on is something many end users do use and has some value. Keep in mind most technicians are Jack of all Trades. Also if you do Advanced Fault Isolation any bit of accuracy helps. IOR affects distance measurements. Having been a backhoe operator some 20+ years ago accuracy matters if you know the IOR of your fiber why would you not set it? If you preach advanced testing understanding and setting IOR is an advanced function. Give me a few feet of accuracy and I will take it. It could be the difference between digging in the middle of the road or in the bar ditch.
Fantastic! Thank you for posting this! I’m a newly qualified telecoms engineer (obvs with no outside the classroom experience) currently sat outside in a car park waiting to go into a job interview! This is a perfect refresher for me! 👍
Excellent I am happy you found it useful. Good luck with the interview
Excellent Demo I've been using OTDR's since 1st generation 1984 and I actually learned something I forgot over the decades 😅 hardest part is explaining to "fiber optic engineers " why specific settings need to be that way for thier network
Thank you sir I am glad you liked it. I feel like I am learning new things or reminded everyday.
Excellent, one of the best so far !
Please Kevin just keep coming up with this kind of fantastic video!!!!
Thank you Luis!
Really a wonderful Video , you explain everything in steps with clarity and solid background , Thanks for sharing your valuable information
Thank you I am glad you found it useful
This is great, im currently upping my experience since im now be promoted. Not a trained fiber tech but since we use it all the time I need to get better to help teams.
I am very happy you found it useful. I need to do more. I keep saying this.
muchas gracias por la explicación, trabajo en uruguay ) hace mas de 32 años que trabajo en telefonía),ahora también trabaja mis hijos. Estuve en la expansión del FTTH en Uruguay, saludos
amigo por si acaso no tenes los app para el otrd exfo ftb-200
.dejo de funcionar el mio busco en la pagina y no se encuentra la actualización
De nada, me alegro de que le haya resultado útil.
Thank you for teaching us the basics. I needed a refresher! Thinking about getting back into the industry.
Your welcome! Its a good time to get back in. In the US we are on a big resurgence of fiber placement. 5G is a big driver!
Kevin, thank you, you teach very well. Like you said its in the interpretation, it’s easier then it used to be lol. Thank you, keep the videos coming
Phx az
I am glad you found the videos useful. I need to do more videos! My day job has me busy I need to make more time
NICE ONE, probably shortest video on otdr's basics thanks !
Thank you I am glad you liked it. I have short and long vidoes. I created this one for a customer who wanted a short video for his techs. They said more than 15 minutes we would love them!
I'd like to thank you very very much for this video
Thanks dear great work,,,, you didn't sleep whole night it's 2:04 am ....
thank you! I never sleep myself my friend. I did this video at 2AM myself!
So clear and well ellustrated
Hey. Thanks for the video, very informative. I was wondering if this EXFO OTDR is eligible to show detailed test results (Value dB, Limit dB, and Loss dB) on a fiber optic cable that below 100m in length. Looking forward to the feedback. Thanks!
Joseph I am glad you liked the video. Yes it has the resolution to measure a 100m fiber. I would use the shortest pulse width with at least a 15 second averaging time. With lengths that short I typically lean towards an OLTS measuring span loss and ORL. If there is a splice or connector within the 100m than an OTDR would be ideal to measure that event
👍👍👍👍👍
Appreciate the video. Learned a lot!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Kevin.
Thank you for this video.
One question. What is the recommended launch cable length? Do I need 500m for a network of about 10km in length? Or is 30m patch cord enough?
Thanks again Kevin for this video
You are welcome. I am glad you found value in the video. As far as the launch. Great question. It really depends on the pulse width. One way to determine is to take the Pulse width in (ns) divided by 10. Convert to meters and multiply by 2.
Example: 1 μs -> 1000ns / 10 -> 100m x 2 = 200 meter -> Appropriate launch cable
(multiplying the distance times 2 is to add margin for the pulse to recover you can
safely go down to 1.5 times)
If you use iOLM you can get away with a shorter launch. Most of the customers I work with use 100m under 20km and 1000m over 20km. If you get into ultra long haul you need to look at launch longer than 1000m.
@@KevinPeres thanks for the reply Kevin.
Thanks for exploring Information its very useful
Very clear explanation. Thanks. So question: [at 13:47 ] if I'm doing a very long fibre (168km), should I be actually doing a few tests/fibre at DIFFERENT pulse widths just to be able to observe the near and the far splices? (I'm doing bidirectional too)? Launch cable is 1.5km.
Yes you should do a shirt and long shot. 169km is very long can your OTDR test that far? What is the part number ?
It is an FTB-1Pro with a FTB-720C-Q1-EA-EI module. Yes, I was wondering if it was capable and may need to rent/borrow a more powerful unit. Thanks for quick REPLY! . (My other OPGW spans are 77km and 124km.)
Thanks Kevin
Hi Sir. I have EXFO FTB-1 OTDR but when I press the power button there's no screen display, still in black screen only. Do you know what's the problem and how to repair it?
Hard to say sir. Could be a battery issue or a display problem. I recommend removing the batteries. Unplug it. Than put it back together. Put the AC power and see if it starts. You can email support@EXFO.com and work with them to troubleshoot
10x Very very much.
That was very helpful
Thanks sir thank you very much for valuable information ☺️💖
I am happy you found it useful. Have a good day.
I use an OTDR to locate a break.
To achieve this is the best thing to do, select auto and start a test?
As I don’t know the actual length of the line to initially optimise and I also don’t care at this stage.
Second, how would I identify a splice on a fibre with the otdr ?
That is how I typically do it. Make sure you have a nice clean launch select auto and let the OTDR optimize. If you are troubleshooting set your averaging time to 30 seconds or more. The longer the averaging time the more optimized the pulse width. Once the test is done if you locate your problem you are good otherwise you can try lowering your pulse width to increase your resolution. You can balance this with adding more averaging time. The OTDR will identify the splice for you if it’s detectable. It will have some attenuation bit more reflection. Hope this all makes sense
@@KevinPeres amazing! Thank you :)
I run for 30 seconds as I believe that is what the auto test runs at by default.
What would a splice actually look like on the otdr trace?
Are they highlighted by the lines in the trace? And what sort of loss would you need to have on a splice for an otdr to pick it up?
That would be really useful for locating joints in a network that aren’t on any plans
This should say have attenuation but NO reflection. Darn auto correct. Splices have attenuation but no reflection
@@bhtradinggroup5340 splices will have some attenuation, usually a loss but can be a gainer but NO reflection. Here is an old setup guide I did with a customer that walks through OTDR setup from a basic level. There is a screen shot of the event icons in there. 1drv.ms/b/s!AmWiv8u8gNCngoA3QHAb-uN2SDP5Tg?e=Y1RVSX
Can the OTDR screen be transferred to a monitor or laptop for ease of use?
Yes if it’s on the same network you can use VNC. If it’s on different network you can use QuickAssist or TeamViewer. Although I have not tried it you might be able to do USB3 out to HDMI. I have an adapter somewhere I will have to try it out
Nicely done
Thank you!
Very good teacher
Thank you James I am glad you found it useful.
This helped me so much thank you
Excellent I am glad you found it useful !
Thanks Kevin! Very useful video!!
You are most welcome I am glad you found it useful
Would you say a 100ns pulse with a 15sec duration should clean it up?
I have not watched this video in some time. Increasing pulse width will clean up a trace but at the cost of resolution
Hi Kevin. Can you please advise if I add another wavelength to make it three wavelength when I'm testing?
You can add three wavelengths. We have many customers who order 1310/1550/1625nm together. typically 1625 is reserved for Ultra Long Haul or folks deploying into the L band. I hope that answers your question.
@@KevinPeres thanks much appreciated
Dear kevin kindly tell me .how can change trc and sor file to PDF in my EXFO OTDR FTB-700SERIES
If you want to save a PDF on the platform go to File menu on the right and select Report. You will have an option for PDF on the drop down
@@KevinPeres it is showing save as type html only pls help me
This video is very very good
Thank you. I am glad you found it useful
Thank you sir, it's useful
Good video. I just started using this otdr but all I get is what looks like noise. I’ve changed launch cables and connector type and still just see noise. Everything has been cleaned multiple times. Can you maybe give some pointers? This machine will improve my trouble shooting
Do you see any of the fiber ? Or does it launch straight noise ? If so and you cleaned and cleaned it. I would inspect it with a probe if you have one to see if it’s damaged. Otherwise it may have to come back. If you have a trace to send email it to me at Kevin.peres@exfo.com
@kevin.peres will do. Back at work on Monday. I also will read the directions 😂
I am off this week and will be back Monday. I will keep an eye out for the email
@kevin.Peres does this otdr use a blue connector on the input
@@bobtosi9346 the unit I used had a green APC. We prefer to ship APC. Why do you ask?
Hi Kevin Exfo OTDR Display No span Set should You help what is this issue ?
Not sure what you mean my friend. It is not showing span length?
@@KevinPeres Yes Exact It is not Display any length even Lunch cable not display
@@salahmunasar4686 I have never seen that before. Can you email support@exfo.com with a screenshot of the issue if you have it and they can point you in the right direction for assistance.
How to test power meter using ftb1 otdr
Wy is the report FAIL?
I think the OTDR curve looks GOOD.
Tell me why!
If you look at about 19 minutes it shows that the splice is failing the threshold that I set.
A very nice question the answer is "pass & fail threshold required to set.
Please share Analyzer Continuity test...
1310nm ,80 km distance, 20 sec time ,how much put in the us in OTDR
Sir where can we get that simulator you are using...thanks
I am using VNC to network into the device. No simulator
There is OTDR box LAB you can buy it
hey i have a question . i save mutliple trcs files is there any way to produce one report with all traces in it. like on 945 a report of multiple shots is generated.
thanks in advance
Not within the test set. You can using FastReporter our reporting tool. You can use it for Custom reporting. I have a video on my channel that goes over FastReporter 3. There is a 90 day trial and after that it is $180 a year. If you are doing custom reporting its a great tool.
@@KevinPeres thank you for the quick reply
Trank you Sir
Thank you
You're welcome
Would it be possible to upload a video for the FLS600 please
I am sorry for the slow response I did not intend for this video to be used for training purposes. I uploaded it to see how it streamed I thought it was not searchable. I will see if we have an fLS-600 video. It would have to be an overhead shot as it does not support screen cast.
Hai sir OTDR Application Not Showing in Disply In EXFO 710B Please Give me Solution
ค่า Att. (dB/km) คือค่าอะไร😓
Deberías hacer un vídeo en español del uso de OTDR. I know you understand
I do not I am actually from the Pacific Islands. I can speak Marshallese though!
a question, where the fiber intervenes in the 5g, would it have a plane or where the connections go, thanks
I am sorry Daniel I am not sure I understand what you are asking. Can you please rephrase?
Sir please help me my otdr is Exfo FTB-1
And it's not taking OTDR some error showing wht can I do please helpp🙏🏼🙏🏼
I would need a little more information on what the issue is. Can you tell me what the error is? You can email me screenshots or more detailed description at Kevin.peres@exfo.com
Hi Kevin, thanks for your video. Amazing. But i need ask something for you bout BDR Setting at OTDR Exfo. Can you show us ?
Gayuti, I am glad you liked the video. I am not sure what you mean by showing you BDR? Like how I process BDR files?
Hey Kevin quick question have the exfo FTB-1 when i click on something can't get keyboard to open. Is there a way to open it.
GOOD VEDIO INFORMATIVE
May i know wht is mean the sign fail up the screen
If it says Fail on the screen than one of the events is out of specifications. You can verify and change your thresholds in the application
It means that one of the events whether splice or connector failed it’s set parameters
Thank you sir
You are most welcome
Supper sir
Thank you
Hi sir my otdr not sowing otdr option on display can u help me.
What is it showing? Is it only showing iOLM?
@@KevinPeres yes.
@@muhammadayaz7901 it could be only iOLM was the purchased option. Would you prefer OTDR? You can have either or both but it’s an option. Where are you located I can have a rep contact you
@@KevinPeres my location in pakistan lahore.
@@muhammadayaz7901 send me an email sir and I will get you some assistance. Kevin.Peres@EXFO.com
Can you run speed test as well>??
Sorry I do not check UA-cam often i only posted this video to see how it streamed! I did not realize people would use it. This does not do speed test we do have an application that does. What test set up are you looking for? Layer 2 or Layer 3/4?
Thanks for this video. It's really helpful. However, there is one question I have. Thus, what is the meaning of FAIL in the top right corner of the report? Is this mean that the other side of the testing cable was not connected?
Sorry for the slow response I am realizing that people are actually watching the videos I posted for streaming testing purposes. the top right fail is a "Global Fail" meaning there is at least one parameter that fails. You will have to refer to the event table to see exactly what failed.
How much
I am not in sales but you can contact them at sales@exfo.com
hi could you help me with ftb 200 please.?
Sure thing Send me an email. Kevin.peres@exfo.com
Excillent
Hey can u help me how to make pdf file in otdr pls reply
MoMTa which OTDR do you have? on the FTB and MAX platform you can see a Report button under the start button. That will generate a PDF. I hope that helps
@@KevinPeres I hv exfo otdr
@@Mamta.8864 okay my directions should help you. If not email support@EXFO.com and they may be able to find you a local support to assist. My instructions should work
OTDR EXFO FTB-2000 Boot failure,thanks
Good👍
how to total loss view pdf
Anusorn, You can select the report button under the start button and it will generate a PDF. in that PDF report will be the total loss. You can also click on the summary tab in the OTDR screen and it will have the information there as well.
How much cost
You can email iSales@exfo.com and they will be able to give you some pricing.
how to fix the fail? i always fail
What is failing? a splice or a connector? More details would help me better understand
Why are these test not passing?
Threshold setting required
Sir iam otdr tester wrking in Oman
1490not aid
Isko Hindi me bhejo
👍👍👍...!!!! Sub indonesia
EXFO's End Of Fiber Detection comes factory default set at 5.0. DUMB, that should always be set to 20. Any fault found greater than 5.0 will cause the remaining fiber under test to be greyed out. Also, NEVER EVER change the index of refraction from factory default, it is never needed. Most fiber runs, long ones, are spliced with different vendors fibers with different IOR and most people don't even know what the IOR of the fiber being tested is anyway. Learn how to use your OTDR in EXPERT, or Advanced mode, many problems with using AUTO.
True Advanced Mode is always preferred but straight out of the box it is unrealistic to expect every user to be an expert. If they were we would all get paid less wouldn't we? The End of Fiber Detection threshold is on all OTDR's that I know of. Auto Mode while something I do not fully rely on is something many end users do use and has some value. Keep in mind most technicians are Jack of all Trades. Also if you do Advanced Fault Isolation any bit of accuracy helps. IOR affects distance measurements. Having been a backhoe operator some 20+ years ago accuracy matters if you know the IOR of your fiber why would you not set it? If you preach advanced testing understanding and setting IOR is an advanced function. Give me a few feet of accuracy and I will take it. It could be the difference between digging in the middle of the road or in the bar ditch.
Sir
450 meeter cable pass
But same setup
356 meeter fail ?
@@ShahulHameed-wz3le What part of the video shows the fail. I do not see it.
@@ShahulHameed-wz3leread event table carefully so that you will get answer sir
@@KevinPeres
Sir
My problem is solved
subtitle nya ngalangin .
Reza, I am not sure what you mean. I have transcribed my videos for other languages.. was yours missing?
Hello sir Hindi languages video send
thanks Kevin
Thank you Sir
Your welcome sir
Thank you
You're welcome